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Open Thread - 11/17/2013


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TomCat
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Carlene V. (203)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 6:52 am
Tom, Glad you are feeling better, it's good to have you back.
Wisconsin should be investigated by the Federal authorities, why can't something be done with the miscarriage of justice there? Will the voters realize their mistake of not getting rid of Walker when they could have? It's so frustrating to watch what goes on there. I did love the license plate though.

SCOTUS - How is it they have that phony way of asking questions or making comments? They all sound like a bunch of puppets, well hey, many of them are aren't they?
 

Mitchell D. (129)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 7:53 am
Yes, Tom, glad to see your card in my inbox, an indication of your recovery.
Mahar nails it sooo well!
Wisconsin needs a n election law based on IQ! LOL.
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 7:56 am

I have Bill Maher recorded but have not had time to watch so I took a pass on that one. I watched Maddow and was so angry I wanted to shout at the TV. There is not even a pretense of courtesy and common decency. Is Putin building a house in Wisconsin? He would be right at home.

Tim Geithner moves on to a high paying job with a lobby/equity firm, now that's a real shocker. I do not like this idea but I think the time has come to affirm legally that no one can go from any position in government (elected or appointed) to a job that in any way lobbies or represents a lobby group.

The Jets are doing fairly well this season. I remember that 1968 game.

Thanks TC.
 

Lona Goudswaard (71)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 8:01 am
Just like many Americans, I just do not understand why the Republicans abuse their majority power so blatantly and so unconstitutionally in these mid-western states. In general it is so obvious that they are trying to keep Democrats from voting – they do not even bother to come up with a good reason for these changes in voting legislation, but they know these new bills will not get through the courts. I do hope the handful of Democrats in Wisconsin’s state assembly take these bills to court immediately.
And what is with Republican outrage about the Sandy Hook bill which they had previously unanimously voted for and then pushing their own bill on anti-abortion car plates forward? They are trying to take attention away from something cooking in their basement, but what could it be? Are they trying to force federal intervention so they can cry foul and get into their favorite role, that of victims, while they are the ones who are to blame? There must be more to it and that is so creepy.

We’re not fully on the same page about Bill Maher, TomCat. Yes, agreed he’s been funnier than this and yes, he had all five Republican members of SCOTUS pegged, but he let them off with being naïve and really thinking their ruling would bring no harm. But I had come under the impression that the Citizens United ruling and gutting the Voting Rights Act were done with the intent to help their Republican brethren in the South (and Mid-West?) to discriminate against minorities and steal elections on a grander scale than ever before and they had done so because are not adverse to a few dollars finding their way into their robes. Just a few, but then a million dollars is not a lot of money to Scallia. Bill was sarcastic as usual, but none of his jokes went to the core and remained ‘naïve’ themselves. Of course I’m an outlander, so what do I know about the machinations of Scotus (apart from what I get to read here ;-) ).
 

Terrie Williams (771)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 8:48 am
Why would Timmy the Tool's move suprise anyone? Doesn't me or you, Cat Man, or most anyone else here with a brain and knowledge of what he is, was and always will be.....a vulture looking for fresh, or not so fresh roadkills.

Bill, though I love him, was a tad off his game Friday night but he does do justice (yeah, pun intended) to the injustices of SCROTUS. Fascist Bast**ds.

When is Fitzwalker-The-Terrible going to be brought to justice by the American people????!!!! I and many millions of others are waiting with baited hooks....
 

Elle B. (82)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 9:06 am
Ty Tom ...

* Beloved family member belongs to the Seahawks Sect...

* What better place than the Badger State--Birth of the Labor Movement--to establish the "symbolic" unnanounced/dog whistled base 4 Reich Wing poli-socio-econ coups (how to get power over a democracy when the majority don't want you to run it = deceive We the People slow brew on grand scale.) John Birch Society moved headquarters to Appleton, WI in 1989 near Grand Chute = birthplace of "Tail-Gunner Joe" [aka:Joseph T. McCarthy, Communist Senate Hearings fame--aka:failed chicken farmer--hero of Robert W. Welch, "founder" of the J.B.S. --buddie of fellow founder Freddie Koch = KOCH brothers Daddy]; GOP birthplace 40mi down the road in Ripon ; Grand Chute 2mi away = site of one of 1st billboards demanding impeachment of SCOTUS Justice Earl Warren; a proud heritage indeed. JBS affiliated/influenced capital purchased aging energy facilities in the state at rock bottom prices & funded Tea Party [the well-known "jacked" brand) and there it is--a recipe for how to deceive & dishearten to influence the dismantling of a democracy. . .large scale manipulation of a nation--aka:Marketing Based Management=MBM, [ie. symbolism, key words & phrases, w/mega-money funding...] Note: JBS says all of above have nothing to do with relocating headquarters...

* 2nd that--no surprise seeing Timmy the Tool back in the Box. . .

* SCOTUS 5 = debased-degenerate G.I.G. [ie. the Goons In Gowns]
 

Pat B. (354)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 9:13 am
MSNBC: The Dems have a battle up there in WI., Rachel says it so well, but I am thinking that this session needs to be looked into for the Repugs inappropriate behavior. What a mean and spiteful group!! Good thoughts to you, while you're meditating, and at the CEO. I'm not praying today, but will be watching at noon today for salvation. Enjoy your day, Tom.
 

Pat A. (116)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 9:59 am
So sorry TC – can't watch anything today or comment due to half an hour's sleep last night due to rodent in attic and noisy neighbour (my turn!)…. am gibbering with fatigue…so sorry!
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 11:25 am
It appears that WI is seeking to set horrific new standards for uncivil undemocratic behavior making a mockery of any pretense they showed for representing their constituents and the people vs. Koch money's agenda.
 

Dave C. (216)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 12:05 pm
.....protect the QB tonight and should be a happy night for you.....
 

Birgit W. (147)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 12:40 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 1:51 pm
4:48 I'd not be walking barefoot on that beach under any circumstances, though.

Maddow – I feel so sorry for my friends in Wisconsin.

The Supremes – I said when they handed down the VRA decision that the obvious answer is to require EVERY state to get permission to change voting procedures. No discrimination there, plus it would have created a lot of jobs because it takes lots of people to investigate all the Southern states plus Pennsylvania and, yes, Wisconsin, to name a few. But as usual no one listened to me LOL.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 2:43 pm
What I always thought was that there is a Limit on how much an individual can "contribute" to a campaign..so it did not worry me as much as some when they declared Corporations as Individuals – but apparently that Limit was Also removed? It just seems to me that a person running for office should be able to spend all their Own money if they want, but be limited as to other people's money.
 

Gary A L. (135)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 3:03 pm
can you lock up a corporation I don't think so so they are not people and I'm not Santa either
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 3:08 pm
Hi TC, HOPE that you are feeling better.
Re. The PTT, Whywas this initially ignored ? I This agreement was arranged at the time of the Repug blackmail act. AKA Gov. shutdown. The President was to attend,and was forced to cancel. thanks to the antics of the Repugs.I personally learned of this meeting as reported by the BBC. and entered a blog re the disastrous effect that it might have on the USA..
I have a suspicious mind and wonder if, in fact the shutdown was timed for this event , making sure that it would go unnoticed!. In other words the Shut down was sabotage!This agreement could have serious consequences for the American worker ,and of course the Unions!.WE ALL know that the Repugs would target unions with glee!. This agreement would make NAFTA look like a small event!
I really feel that the progressive movement missed the boat on this We need to catch up and start fighting.
(think of the joy of Romney who just loved to outsource and take advantage of the Pacific Rim,s "slave Labour! and miserable conditions.
Come on progressives, get ready with calls to Reps , petitions etc. Stand up for American workers. ,
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Sunday November 17, 2013, 11:47 pm
sO!....since the supreme court.."huck, cough..."justice, 2013" is as dysfunctional, as it is......and the FDA!!....can we bake... "trolls and roll them into a pie!?!...(can't feed them to the wolves..too smart and don't eat TOXIC crap & we love them, hate trolls!!...can't throw them trolls into the landfill, that would be irresposable for future generations...they donot compost, just toxic waste...HELL! ..we can't even send them into Outerspace, as that would be an ACT OF WAR1..the aliens are after all smarter than us( human dumb shits let the repugs happen!)....hmmm......well, all our infostructure is falling , collapsing..oh but the trolls are living on yours and mine taxpaying dime and thanks to the repugs,(being paid for being trolls) doing better than us.....hmmmm..okay, okay! NO TROLL PIE (waste of pie crust, no market, even the vampires say "no way")...no land left on earth to bury them...hmmm..what to do, what to do?
 

TomCat S. (234)
Monday November 18, 2013, 2:00 am
Thanks everyone.

Kudos to Avril for the PTT connection.
 

James Maynard (67)
Monday November 18, 2013, 1:15 pm
Still walking the beach....
 

TomCat S. (234)
Monday November 18, 2013, 11:43 pm
Enjoy!
 
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