Tuesday November 19, 2013, 2:22 am
Lets make one thing clear. Republicans do not object to government spending. If fact, they love to spend YOUR money on such things as financing the cost of moving YOUR jobs to third world countries where Vulture Capitalists can exploit workers to rake in more profit, which they then keep offshore so YOU get to pay their share of taxes too. To increase welfare for the rich, Republicans are about to impoverish 1.3 million Americans right away and up to 4.8 Million next year.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 4:20 am
Thanks TC. I don't know what has happened to the Republican Party, seems they have not only lost their way, but also their minds. They want to take the country down along with all its people. The party now consists of evil, greedy, sadistic bastards.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 6:34 am
Oh they've been working on jobs but not for people out of work here. In their minds, what's left of them, they just care about corporations who fund their political campaigns. They don't give a hoot about anything else do they? Pandering to corporate bosses and the sinking tea party will be their demise I hope.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 6:48 am
When the Republicans shut down the government, they not only cost the US 24 billion dollars, they also prevented the job stimulation program from working and there were thousands of jobs lost as a direct result of the shutdown. This of course in addition to the jobs lost by moving production to low-cost countries AND by refusing to invest in use of non-fossil energy which led to the collapse of the US car industry... This list could be quite long if we cared to look into it.
And now they are going to impoverish those people who go jobless because of their machinations even further because they're going on holiday AGAIN in two weeks time and can't find it in their hearts - let me rephrase that: cant find their hearts, to extend the emergency benefits before they do. And who is surprised by all this?
Remember that the president has and continues to bring up a National JOBS Act, put people to work, grow our economy, repair our infrastructure, add a Jobs training program (for those whose jobs no longer exist and for returning military). Working people, paid at a fair wage, pay taxes and take nothing from the government. Logic would dictate that every republican would love this, but no, where would the whining material come from? A comprehensive JOBS program and an increase in the minimum wage just makes sense.
More than three quarters of Americans support an increase in the minimum wage, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.
Seventy-six percent said the minimum wage should be raised to $9 per hour, a five point jump from March. A law that would raise the minimum wage and tie future minimum wage increases to inflation got slightly less support at 69 percent.
Fifty-six percent of Republicans said they oppose linking the minimum wage to inflation, while only eight percent of Democrats opposed that type of measure.
Voters in New Jersey approved a measure Tuesday that raises the minimum wage in the state to $8.25 and ties further increases to inflation.
President Obama reportedly supports a Democratic bill that would raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 and link future increases to inflation.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 8:22 am
Tax dollars spent on income supports, raises and benefits for the poor, lower and/or middle classes generates triple the economic activity in communities as the dollars turn over supporting small businesses and other local businesses; corporate subsidies do not bring this benefit to the economy and even sometimes create a negative impact on the nation's economy. Leaving the ghastly immorality out of this equation and just doing the math with the point being protecting the country's economy and these choices also give the House GOP failing marks. Ideologues may make fun critics for the media to follow, but the ignoring facts at odds with ideology makes for lousy governing.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 8:39 am
Wow, that's quite an impressive number, maybe even close to setting a new record. They must be so proud of themselves all while many people are down and out and barely ekeing out an existence. It comes naturally to them since they know that no matter what happens come hell or high water, at the end of the day they can pay their bills, put food on the table and even enjoy disposable income thanks to their shameless greed and pro-corporate interests.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:04 am
"Remember that the president has and continues to bring up a National JOBS Act, put people to work, grow our economy, repair our infrastructure, add a Jobs training program (for those whose jobs no longer exist and for returning military). Working people, paid at a fair wage, pay taxes and take nothing from the government. Logic would dictate that every republican would love this, but no, where would the whining material come from? A comprehensive JOBS program and an increase in the minimum wage just makes sense. "
"Tax dollars spent on income supports, raises and benefits for the poor, lower and/or middle classes generates triple the economic activity in communities as the dollars turn over supporting small businesses and other local businesses; corporate subsidies do not bring this benefit to the economy and even sometimes create a negative impact on the nation's economy."
French statesman Fredéric Bastiat's essay "Ce qu’on voit et ce qu’on ne voit pas" - That which is seen and that which is unseen - (i.e. The broken window fallacy) exposes the fallacy inherent in the idea of stimulating the economy or helping others through either borrowing or forcing/stealing. It's like shooting yourself in the foot because it would "give hospitals more business."
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:22 am
It is NOT just the rich of the predominately white of America that is doing this. Look at Europe and the World. If the poor and uneducated (uneducated does NOT mean stupid) actually TALKED with one another, we'd find out that we are ALL in the same boat. The rich RULE. How we take back our lives (short of bloodshed ??? (I AM a realist)), has gotten beyond me. Let's NOT FORGET the ARMY POLICE !!!! and what NEED do WE THE PEOPLE have of them ????
Maybe I seem paranoid. So be it. I hope I am but....ALL of this just doesn't feel right at this time to me and remember....NO ONE in power is what we the people consider to be poor.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:36 am
Who thinks that theRepgs CARE?anyone?.Nothing can go to Congress unless Yellow Belly Boehner allows it. He is SO intimidated by the Facist third Reich ,(AKA) tea party, he DARE NOT and Terry,It already arrived .
There is of course a fix.
DON,T Vote for them ,! They may have to go out and get a REAL job!
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 11:01 am
There are two people behind this present day Republican Party, and I think we all know who they are. With their money, they are finding people who have no moral values at all, who will do and say anything for money, and they saturate the airwaves with lies to get them elected. Present day Republicans are absolutely nothing like the Republicans that Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower were. They were great Presidents because they were good people. The Republican Party is owned and run by the Koch brothers. I am in 100% agreement with Bev T. I hope that people will wake up before it is too late.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 12:10 pm
Biggest Job Killer to Americans: Democrats & Republicans pushing Amnesty, yet "The dramatic increase in the labor supply will, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) over the next decade, increase the unemployment rate for American workers, cut the average income for American workers - those who are lucky enough to get a job - and cut our Gross Domestic Product [GDP] per capita," Rep. Brooks
Bill Maher asked his guest Anne Coulter about amnesty, she said:
...it really does hurt the poorest among us. Why aren't we getting people to compete with me, you, senators, governors? To which Maher replied: That's actually a fair point, the Democrats, the party of the working man, should take on that issue.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 2:12 pm
Those that have will make damn sure those that have not stay right were they left to be by using the governments, corporations and there want-TA-be me-Me's in all parts of the world
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 2:12 pm
A REAL JOBS Bill would solve Many problems! Including PREVENTING another raid on Social Security. So RepubliCONs will threaten to screw over the Unemployed & Democrats will fight for extending unemployment insurance program. "But with Congress still far from a budget deal and still struggling to find alternatives to the $1 trillion in long-term cuts known as sequestration, lawmakers say the chances of an extension before Congress adjourns in two weeks are slim." So yet another "battle" that SHOULD'VE been dealt with WAY Before The Sequester is used to STOP the ONLY thing that will get America Out of the Recession - A REAL JOBS bill! And yes, I blame both sides to this total Media Blackout! Democrats should've started their offensive drive from Day One after last Election!!!!!! Allowing Obamacare to be an ongoing News Item is Useless to any Reform! Real Jobs should & could Provide Healthcare Insurance & the point of Obamacare would be moot.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 3:01 pm
Nancy, as timid as some democrats have been.....the elected officials in that party are the only ones standing for the middle class and the poor. Name One Elected National Republican who is standing up for the poor and middle class. The GOP always walks in lock step.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 5:26 pm
Tx TC,....Repubs. don't care about anyone except the 1% and their own bank acct. They trot out their plastic Jesus to bamboozle their "followers"into voting for them ...then...they screw them over...Repubs. work for the rich & themselves. The Answer is....VOTE in 2014....and take everyone you know with you.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 8:18 pm
Our first and MOST IMPORTANT job is Removing Republican/Tea Party in every corner of the political system from local to national. The slimy idiots with no soul have to go in order for this country to heal from THEIR damage and return to an intelligent, capable, decent Democracy that actually reveres Majority Rule. I'm all for 2 or even 3 party system but this brand of Republican and the mini me Tea Party jackasses have to be sent packing. What their doing to our people is anti-American and they have completely brought it on themselves by taking the anti majority and obstructionist detrimental road. Repercussions at the polls are the ONLY thing they understand or care about. Along with the poor people they are disgustingly and intentionally hurting, the Republican run states are denying health care to their own citizens because of racism and their insatiable quest for absolute power and that will deliberately cause sickness and death for many Americans. I have to hold back the strong influence to puke every damn time I hear them touting the Constitution or verbally wrapping their sorry asses in the American flag. Nothing is more sickening than the current Right Wing deluded and sick agenda to hold our country by the throat until they have choked the life and every dime out of our people.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:44 pm
Well, the Constitution is American, and is supposed to encapsulate our values of independence and self-determination/reliance. It is anti-American to "revere Majority Rule," as this is not a democracy, but a republic in which the majority does not and should not rule. Equal protection under the law means that the minority is protected regardless of what the majority wants. You will notice that in practice this has lately not been the case and that powerful people and parties have been above the law. This comes with socialism (including Nationalsozialismus), fascism, and any other centralization in which the state and its might (it does not have might in a republic) is put behind favored ideas/projects, companies, and individuals. This leads to gross unfairness and that trapped feeling we're all having because of the monopolies and strangle holds this enables the aforementioned entities to obtain.
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:48 pm
Nancy, you're right - it is all of them.
Bill Moyers interview with Mark Leibovich, author of This Town (on the topic of Washington as a money-maker for insiders - why they are ignoring all of us and disobeying the laws): http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-mark-leibovich-on-americas-gilded-capital/
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 10:52 pm
Thanks to almost all. Kudos to many, especially Kitty and Robert. The Democratic Party may be a swamp, but before it can be drained we need to get rid of the Republican alligators:
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 10:56 pm
Yes, of course they are ALL part of the problem but let's get real here and at least admit that the ones who are right now obstructing our government so that nothing is being done to help anyone is the Tea Party and the Republicans, not the Democrats.
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 1:50 am
It's getting to the point, that I can't even think of any insults to hurl at them, I'm just ashamed and embarrassed as an American Citizen, that this is how low we've sunk...These people are supposed to be our leaders, and do what's right for the people in this Country...Instead the just embarrass themselves and us along with them...I'm getting to the point that I don't even know what to say anymore, when they pull another trick out of their hats...Religion, Health choices, personal freedom, civil rights...Those Republican Tea Baggers are out to steal it all...I don't understand how they call themselved Proud Americans, who just want their Country back...It seems to me what they're doing is going against everything, our Country is about, and has stood for...I think those Tea Party Republicans, are Traitors, and are plotting Sedition, and they should be arrested and thrown in jail for crimes again America, and the American People...I just remember there was a time I was so proud to be an American, but thanks to those people I'm embarrassed, not proud...
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 6:49 am
Sequester supported by BOTH "sides" ... neither willing to now budge on politics not policy issues ... will continue to result in the now Divided States of AmeriKa, the divide growing by leaps and bounds with the only hope for unity being a new crop of politicians, not career types, who actually represent we the people and what's best for us all. VOTE WITH PURPOSE IN THE NEXT ELECTION, AT THAT POINT YOU OWN IT.
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 9:27 am
"Religion, Health choices, personal freedom, civil rights...Those Republican Tea Baggers are out to steal it all...I don't understand how they call themselved Proud Americans, who just want their Country back"
Michael, I don't understand your assertion. Aren't religion, health choices, personal freedom, civil rights all guaranteed to the individual either explicitly (or by exclusion from listed federal responsibilities) in the Constitution? How are the "Tea Baggers," who supposedly support a return to the rule of law as outlined in Constitution, "out to steal it all" then?
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 9:38 am
Please don't get sucked into the petty infighting and show. The hoopla regarding social issues (which are supposed to be left to personal choice anyway) is whipped up to distract as many Americans as possible from what both parties are colluding to accomplish. Some idiot steps to the front of the stage and says something inflammatory hoping to stir our emotions up so much that we don't do anything about the areas of greatest profit to the crony-capitalists: the war machine, GMO promotion and protection, the health system/big pharma, petroleum, and industrial agriculture/animal farming/torture.
If everyone were made equal under the law again (unconstitutional laws granting monopolies and favors would not stand), the people involved in the aforementioned industries would have to pay damages to all of us and make environmental redress for their misdeeds instead of staying above the law as they have been, with all of us trapped into participation in their horrifying system.
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 1:22 pm
Sara V. this country is run as a DEMOCRACY, I think we've been here before if memory serves, with your tacking to the this is a Republic statement and you seem not to have a grasp on the reality we're dealing with as a country. Saying things that should be so doesn't make things so. That is what is at stake in our nation. We are being driven right off the cliff by unscrupulous and lying people that don't give a damn about what should be, ONLY the selfish and hypocritical way they WANT it to be ONLY for THEMSELVES. Majority Rule should run all aspects in decision making for all in a society. The point is not EVERYONE gets their way in Democracy, the majority wins the right to make the final decisions. If you want to call that socialism then you need a class in the subject. Our Democracy allows for input and fairness in considering a minority point of view and agenda. That's what the hell bi-partisan is SUPPOSE to be about and what the filibuster is for BUT when you have the minority dictating, abusing, obstructing, holding a country hostage and in distress for personal gain and ideology something's gotta give and it sure as hell shouldn't be the will of the majority giving in to tantrums, lies and their all out quest to destroy just to "let them be a part" of the process. That being said, I do agree with your 9:38 post with the exception that both parties here are mutually responsible and have the same agenda. It's a false equivalency that those on the Right try to make over and over to brainwash and distract. While we absolutely need to "drain the swamp" as TC stated on the Democrat's side, their platform and policies do not infringe on the majority will of the people, their platform is taken from the will of the majority unlike the Right Wing that chooses to unacceptably degrade and strip our civil rights and personal freedoms to fit dwindling minority beliefs to FORCE them on the majority. THAT IS our current reality and that is the "sucking" sound right now.
Saturday November 23, 2013, 4:46 pm
Socialism and Communism are of a piece. The only difference being that under Socialism, the means of production and distribution are directed by the Central Government, and under Communism, the means of production and distribution are owned by the Central Government.
Saturday November 23, 2013, 4:54 pm
Yes, Shirley, you are right. This country has slipped from a representative republic ruled by law, into a democracy ruled by the majority, and straight into an oligarchy, ruled by the few. As you point out, "We are being driven right off the cliff by unscrupulous and lying people...you have the minority dictating, abusing, obstructing, holding a country hostage and in distress for personal gain," which is worse than Democracy, and much worse than a Constitutional Republic.
Students of history will not be surprised. "A Republican form of government was created and intended for a vigilant and informed citizenry, who would keep a watchful eye on the government and jealously guard their liberties like precious jewels. Failure to maintain this watch, would lead to the leveling of society, the erosion of individual liberty, and the loss of the Republic." "Scottish professor Sir Alex Fraser Tytler (1714-1778) of the University of Edinburgh, "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by dictatorship.""
The question is what to do now. I would like to think that when thieves are exposed, we bring them to justice rather than all becoming thieves ourselves.
The source for my quotes above is Dr. Miguel A. Faria's article "The Political Spectrum."
Part 1: http://www.haciendapub.com/articles/political-spectrum-part-i-totalitarian-left-communism-social-democracy
Part 2: http://haciendapublishing.com/articles/political-spectrum-part-ii-%E2%80%94-center-democracy-or-constitutional-republic
Part 3: http://haciendapublishing.com/articles/political-spectrum-part-iii-%E2%80%94-extreme-right-anarchism
Saturday November 23, 2013, 5:08 pm
Appealing to the new oligarchical class is futile, as related by Mark Leibovich when he was recently interviewed by Bill Moyers - they are all out for their own gain. http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-mark-leibovich-on-americas-gilded-capital/
The scary thing is that now that it's gotten so bad and we urgently want to rein this in and bring the criminals to justice, there are not enough principled people in Washington to turn things around, and our protesting will do no good. We are already well on our way to an authoritarian state - witness our militarized police forces put in place to keep us in line and fearful of raising our voices.