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Open Thread - 12/27/2013

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Lona G (80)
Friday December 27, 2013, 3:01 am
I'm so glad to hear that the Christmas dinner you cooked was such a success., TomCat. And I'm glad it left you some time for a very good posting, I may add.

I'm really out of sync now, because this is the second thread I'm commenting on today. Lately I was one of the last and now I'm first again. Whatever shall I do with myself tomorrow ;-)

Brian Cogan's ruling was way out of line, but to be expected from a Bush/GOP nominee. There is only separation of church and state and freedom of AND from religion when it suits these guy's agendas, which isn't often.

Excellent ruling by Judge Carl Barbier. It's rather sad though that a ruling that is just impartial and fair becomes excellent just because so many other rulings (like the one above) are so obviously influenced by religion, politics, (corporate) money and any combination of these three. This time BP didn't get away with it, so Barbier is obviously not in their pocket.

Having "No Fools on our Ticket" as your new mantra must make al Republican voters wonder what they had on their ticket during the past years to warrant such a mantra. A lot of fools, would be a first guess. The trouble is that these voters probably don't think and the GOP gets away with it again. Especially when they get some in with a tiny bit of acting talent and just enough self control to keep their foolishness hidden until after the elections. Well, you sure have your work cut out for you, TomCat, exposing each and every one of them for what he or she truly is.

Arielle S (313)
Friday December 27, 2013, 6:05 am
That security person is lucky to have you in the building - that is the true spirit of Christmas - too bad the GOP have never learned about the true spirit of Christmas. I guess they are so busy trying to shove their ideas down everyone's throat, they don't ever think of sharing food.

JL A (281)
Friday December 27, 2013, 6:27 am
Nice contrast to Google's treatment of their security contract staff and food TC!
BTW-last year I toyed with undoing default BD but found I couldn't keep the ancient wisdom year of birth if I did so didn't save changes.
The GOP efforts reminds me of when CA went for term limits--everyone wanted to limit other people's representatives but wanted to keep their own.

Carlene V (202)
Friday December 27, 2013, 7:13 am
So glad you had a nice Christmas and what a treat for the security person. That the real spirit of Christmas Tom!
I find it crazy-funny that judges try to limit a woman's choice to birth control imposed by a bible-thumping employer yet those same employers are probably more than happy to keep supplying the males they employ with Viagra which is after all, birth control is it not? You know, if you can't use it....

BP is such a drain. Hugest profits, massive salaries and tax relief. Guess they aren't happy enough, now they want more. Good on judge Barbier to block them.

Pat B (356)
Friday December 27, 2013, 8:09 am
What a loving gesture to give Christmas dinner to another.! You certainly have the Christmas spirit in you. Hard to believe Ms. Fossey has been gone from her gorillas for so many years now. I remember hearing about her death on the TV. (Never found who murdered her, either). She was a loss to the animals she worked with. RIP, Dian. Sounds like you are getting settled in, and you are contented and happy. Take care, and Thanks, Tom. Have a super and relaxing day.

Kit B (276)
Friday December 27, 2013, 8:37 am

If I begin to voice my thoughts on this obvious desire to legislate every sexual organ of a woman's body, I may exploded into a full rant.

Some jerk from a TV show manages to rise the ire of some pretty strange people out there. What is nothing more nor less than a PR stunt has become a national debate. That my friends is embarrassing. While whether a woman is able to decide about her own body? Please, that decision can not be left to a woman.

77% of those against all forms of birth control are Men, 100% of those men will never become pregnant.

Free will and making choices for our lives is not the exclusive territory of men, women too are endowed with full mental capacity and are fully able to make the same personal, moral choices for themselves.

If you do not like abortion or birth control do not use those choices, this is (or is it?) the free country of the United States, freedom is the right to make personal choices. I know what is my business and what is not, and making the choices about one's own body is the most personal choice there could be, or - shut up and mind your own business.


Gene J (290)
Friday December 27, 2013, 8:57 am
"What Judge Cogan missed, and the justices need to recognize, is the threat to religious liberty comes from employers trying to impose their religious views on workers."

It just amuses me, well and annoys, that supposedly literate people can't seem to get this simple fact. Employers are imposing THEIR religion on everyone who works for them. I can't believe SCOTUS will uphold that idea.

And, as for no fools on their ticket, well, that just isn't possible, as 99% of that party borders on mental incompetence, their collective iq's wouldn't light a 60 watt bulb. They are a party of fools who think that denying science will somehow not make it real. That qualifies as foolish in my opinion. I could go on with their entire platform but it would all come down to the same thing. The good news is they still believe people haven't seen through them. Doonesbury has been brilliant this week, I hope you all get a chance to see his work, he is truly making them look the fools they are.

David C (131)
Friday December 27, 2013, 11:29 am
....once again. TomCat, you demonstrate the true spirit of Christmas....unlike the conservatives who don't know how to do so.....

Birgit W (160)
Friday December 27, 2013, 1:36 pm

James Maynard (84)
Friday December 27, 2013, 1:53 pm
Have had a convection-micro oven
for more than 20 years. Just love
it - especially being able to combine
the functions.
Got a little singed on that barbecue.

Dianna M (16)
Friday December 27, 2013, 3:41 pm
Last Feb. 1, Mike Johanns sent an email about the ACA that said, in part: ". . . the Administration’s assertion that insurance companies will pay for this coverage is nonsensical."

Here's my reply: "You say that "employers with religious objections to a provision in the President’s health law would continue to be forced to violate their First Amendment Rights and ensure coverage of abortion-inducing drugs and contraception."

Okay . . . if my employer is a Christian Scientist, does that mean I'm violating his "first amendment rights" by expecting him to give me health care at all? Seriously--Christian Scientists do not believe in medical science. They believe they can heal through prayer. If I get hit by a large, heavy falling object at work, can he deny me an ambulance to take me to the hospital, instead forcing all my coworkers to stand over my broken body and pray while I bleed to death?

It's not the Obama administration that's being "nonsensical." It's you."

Some of my best lines in these emails to these a**holes, and I don’t even get the courtesy of a reply. Republicans have NO SENSE OF HUMOR! (That alone should disqualify them from office.)

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Sheila D (28)
Friday December 27, 2013, 4:23 pm
Thanks for another good post, TomCat. I tend to get a little crazy when it comes to men making decisions for women, "for their own good", as if women don't have any sense at all. ALL of these Rabid Right Republicans need to go home and talk to their wives and daughters like they are real people, not just an extension of whatever they think is right. And what a shame if their women can't or won't think for themselves...
Merry Christmas! The spirit is obviously with you.

Mitchell D (87)
Friday December 27, 2013, 5:29 pm
The point about the judges, and who did the appointing thereof, is sooo on point!
People seem to forget that a dumb-ass president (bush, Reagan, etc.) can leave an imprint on the future with their appoitments, just look at SCOTUS!

Joanne D (38)
Friday December 27, 2013, 5:58 pm
6:45 The stupid - it burned me.

NY Times - credit to misskitty for this: If you want to live under a government based on a religious book, move to Iran. Otherwise, read the Constitution and shut up.

ThinkProgress: Any victory over BP is good, if too few and far between.

Raw Story - If they want no fools on their tickets, they will have to field Democrats. They won't do that, so they have set themselves an impossible goal. But we will still need to GET. OUT. THE. VOTE. Especially with all the voter suppression going on.

Cartoon - Yes, Patty, she did indeed. But Republicans don't care about great apes. Heck, they don't care about most humans. So of course they would consider her "no loss."

BTW Spammer flagged. But don't let that stop anyone else from doing it too. The more the merrier.

John B (185)
Friday December 27, 2013, 6:24 pm
Bless you Tom for being such a good neighbor!
NYT: Judge Cogan does miss the point for sure.
ThinkProgess: Kudos to U.S. District Judge Barbier and a very loud "up yours" to BP.
You are so right Tom, we need to be on guard when the GOP nominates so-called "centrist candidates" who can hide their true colors.
Read and noted.

TomCat S (129)
Friday December 27, 2013, 11:45 pm
Thanks everyone nut the spammer.

Kudos to Lona, Kitty, Gene, and Diana.

marie C (163)
Saturday December 28, 2013, 6:34 am

Karen Chestney (112)
Saturday December 28, 2013, 11:22 pm
Tx TC, and you get "special" Tx for bringing dinner to the security guard. Sounds like you had a Great day.& you so deserved it. ....NYT ..Judge(Bushie) needs to read The Constitution...according to him employers can impose their beliefs on their employees.(I thought it was/is the Ins. Company's responsibility not the employer???)
BP is Under paying as it is...Damage is long term& will continue into the future.
as for Fools.....We are talking Repubs...that's a collective IQ of a mentally unstable eggplant.!

TomCat S (129)
Sunday December 29, 2013, 12:30 am
Thank you both
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