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Open Thread - 1/3/2013

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John B (185)
Friday January 3, 2014, 2:44 am
Thanks Tom.
The ACA is a great start and will certainly help. I would have preferred a single payer plan (Medicare for all). Still, a great day for consumers who need health care.
Hats off to Mayor de Blasio and I wish him well with his agenda.
Kudos to Sen. Reid in putting the pressure on the GOP .
Cartoon: Mussolini as an inspiration to the GOP wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Read and noted.

Carlene V (202)
Friday January 3, 2014, 6:30 am
Thanks Tom and am sure you made the desk clerk's day too.
No matter what the thugs in the GOP try I think ACA is here to stay. Some will pay more and many will pay less and all will have health care, as it should be. So many stories come to mind as I worked in the medical field for 10+ years and know first hand about uninsured people and insurance companies denying coverage.
Not to mention that many can now afford to take the medications they need to stay healthy.
I am disappointed in Sotomayor and the birth control issue. I don't believe that religion should pay a part in a person's personal choice of birth control coverage.
Good on Reid, and hope it gets back to Congress for a revote. Many people are now suffering without unemployment benefits and not one Republican has come up with a plan to put them back to work. As Paul Ryan and others think unemployment benefits are really welfare let's see what plan he has to help, knowing full well he has none.

Pat B (356)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:14 am
NY Times: I do wish Mayor de Blasio well for his term in office.
US News: Good news re: Sen Reid's legislation for the extension. For those unemployed, I pray this gets passed.
How kind and thoughtful to take a plate to the staff working the desk. I know that he/she appreciated that gesture. Relax and enjoy your day. Thanks, Tom.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:15 am
6:07 Going nowhere fast.

Think Progress: While it's not single payer, it's such a good thing compared to what we have had, and six million is so few! The Republicans have done so much to destroy it, not by their impotent votes in the House, but by hacking the real website, putting up counterfeit websites, and the like, I fear it will not help as much as it could and that they will make capital of that for the midterms. I may need to put the second verse of the British national anthem into my daily prayers: "O Lord our God arise,/ Scatter our enemies/ and make them fall./ Confound their politics,/Frustrate their knavish tricks;/ On thee our hopes we fix,/ God save us all!"

NY Times: Yes, deBlasio is a wonderful thing for NYC Of course he has a hell of a mess to clean up. I wish him every success.

US News: Agreed, a positive development, and one we have been pushing for. Having been unemployed many times myself, and now permanently, I am sure the unemployed would rather be able to eat and have shelter than be a force for political good, no matter how good, so I am hoping it can get passed quickly. Unfortunately, although I hope, I also doubt.

Cartoon: A sad day in world history. There are things more important that having trains that run on time. Unless, I guess, if you're a Republican.

I'm glad your New Year went so well. Let's hope the whole year goes equally well.

Past Member (0)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:27 am
Thank you TC. You are good man. Do not push yourself, you will be ill. Take care.

Kit B (276)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:45 am

When the health care program opened in the state of Massachusetts, the first month had a grand total of 127 people that signed up. It continued to move slowly and now about 98% have health insurance. The problem with both Massachusetts and the ACA is that it will not cover everyone, and still has a high co-pay for those who can least afford that additional cost. We need to consider this nothing more than a step toward full universal health care. That is the only option that allows every sick child, every working adult and those who can not find work or can not afford an dime extra, to be covered for illness and accidents.
Should the right chose to label this socialism, I really don't care. If it works and it most certainly does for all countries that have this program, then call it whatever. From it's inception by the republican Teddy Roosevelt to Eisenhower and even Nixon who wanted to begin a universal health program this was once a republican idea. Now it is owned by the democrats, could that be the real reason for all this Machiavellian effort to end the program?

Again when thinking of republicans and health care, how far they have fallen:

"Fifty-six years ago, President Dwight D. Eisenhower proposed a kind of universal health care.

Eisenhower asked Congress for $25 million to fund what he called health "reinsurance."

Under the Eisenhower plan, private insurance companies who extended benefits to uninsured Americans would be reimbursed by the federal government should they incur excessive loses. In a way, the government was insuring the insurers."

Congratulations to Bill de Blasio, both for his win in the election and his focus on bettering the lives of the people of NYC. I believe he has the right goals for the many needed improvements in the city. To stop people simply walking on a sidewalk and submit them to search is not just a personal humiliation but completely against the idea of a need to have cause before harassing the public.

Thanks TC.

Kit B (276)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:52 am

Tough one today, 3:48!

David C (133)
Friday January 3, 2014, 9:58 am

Terrie W (798)
Friday January 3, 2014, 10:36 am
I wish DeBlasio well. I hope he can make a difference for New Yorkers.

I hope the unemployment fix gets passed and still shows the Rethugs for what they are.

ACA....sigh....I hope it helps others get what they need, I am still waiting for single payer or medicare-for-all (damn huge crack I fell through.)

Thanks, Cat Man.

Gene J (290)
Friday January 3, 2014, 11:27 am
"This is a positive development, because it gives Republicans the choice of supporting it or exposing themselves in an election year. If it passes the Senate, it can then be used to put House Republicans on display."

I agree fully. I think that this year the Democrats in BOTH Houses should take EVERY opportunity the teapublicans present them with, and there will be many, to show how progressive ideas HELP people and how refusing to support ideas that help people is ALL the republicans have to offer. They don't have ideas, they have masters. They don't care about anything that affects the 90% of Americans who are not already wealthy. Show them up, call them out in the calm, personable way Elizabeth Warren does. At every opportunity, show them to be the heartless, soulless b@stards they are inside. Expose them and what they DO, don't let what they SAY carry the news, make sure people know what they DO, because they say things that make them sound almost reasonable, then they go back into the chamber and work on some law to restrict voting, abortion, women's rights, harm the unemployed and the working poor. Keep their actions in front of the American people right up to November 2016, maybe then we take back this country from these usurpers of the American Dream. We are the ones with the large tent, make sure people know that, make sure people know that the only ones who fit in the republican's tent are those who attended Romney's 47% remark dinner at $25,000 per plate or whatever ridiculous amount it was. The differences are stark, make sure America knows that. It is our only hope of moving forward in ways that benefit all Americans.

JL A (281)
Friday January 3, 2014, 12:40 pm
One petition to Senators to extend UI benefits is at:

barbara C Horban (56)
Friday January 3, 2014, 1:34 pm
NYC certainly has many changes in store. From my perspective mostly good. I sincerely hope ACA will be the wake up call. What bothers me is that being a below poverty level retired individual is that I have a $600 spend down each month in order to get benefits of medicaid. Who can afford a $600 "deductible". Finally I am in favor of the extension but I don't understand how people will use UI as a job and stay on for years...yes some do. I was reluctant to get my first extension. Freeloaders annoy me.

Birgit W (160)
Friday January 3, 2014, 2:42 pm

Winn A (179)
Friday January 3, 2014, 4:38 pm
Thanks Tom

Lona G (80)
Friday January 3, 2014, 4:55 pm
The desk clerks in your building - and a few others - sure are lucky to have you as a new tenant, TomCat.

Six million people on the new ACA doesn't sound much to most of you, I guess, but if you consider that is id more than a third of the Dutch population, it becomes quite an achievement, doesn't it? Especially with all the boycotting and the opposition it has had.

I hope with all my heart that Bill de Blasio isn't in the same position as Obama was 6 years ago, with an enormous mess to clean up and the exact same opposition who will try to make him fall flat on his face as soon as possible. Kudos to Bill, he needs all the support he can get.

Legislation to extend long-term jobless benefits is not only a sound political maneuver, it is also desperately needed by millions of Americans to simply keep afloat. It simply must pass.

Mussolini must suit the GOP just fine, just another small, narcissistic man with too large an ego.

James Maynard (84)
Friday January 3, 2014, 8:59 pm
"At long last we will have truly positive examples with which to begin to counter four years of Republican lies."

- Amen!

Tickled to have come in just under the
Average once again....

Lynn S (235)
Friday January 3, 2014, 10:39 pm
Cartoon — . . . and shall she suffer the same fate? . . . a firing squad and then strung up by the ankles and stoned?

Seems today's Republicanus/Teabaggers reselmble Mussolini's fascists. From Wikipedia:

"When dealing with such a race as Slavic – inferior and barbarian – we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy … We should not be afraid of new victims … The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps … I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians …

—Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920"

TomCat S (129)
Friday January 3, 2014, 11:55 pm
Thanks everyone!!
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