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Open Thread - 1/12/2014

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). Still sick.

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Lona G (84)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 5:21 am
Get some more rest and warmth, TomCat. You've been under a lot of strain these last months and now that you've found a good place to live and the move is completed, perhaps with the exception of a box or two, it all comes out. Give it time, don't rush it but take very good care of yourself. Just think how much better you're off where you are now.

I see a lot of parallels between the development of the economy in the US and in the Netherlands. Both are cutting down on essentials such as welfare and downsizing government , and in both countries the economy is stalling and the unemployment numbers rising. Long term unemployment is increasing even harder. After unemployment benefits run out, people fall out of employment system into welfare or aren't registered at all, so the problem is even worse than on paper. What I don't see here however, is the large number of people who have two or even three jobs because they don't earn a living wage on one job only. Here a full time job is guaranteed to give you a living wage because of a reasonable minimum wage. If America were to pay its workers a good minimum wage, this would not lead to loss of jobs, as the Republicans advocate, but a fair distribution of jobs for everyone, because only one is needed to live on.

It´s hard to tell if firing one IT firm from the job and hiring another to improve a system they haven't built from scratch is the answer to the ACA website`s problems. It all depends on the level of knowledge of the hiring task force. If that is below par and they haven't been on the ball from the time the system was designed, the new firm will have a very hard time fixing something that was never any good. I also suspect that most of the troubles are caused by last minute changes and additions, forced down its throat by the Republicans, that turned this system into the usual ball of unmaintainable, unchangeable spaghetti.

Sorry, TomCat, but I couldn't even be bothered to watch the whole video of MSNBC’s Morning Joe. It was too much like watching Fox News. MSNBC is rather schizophrenic in having both Ed, Chris, Rachel and Lawrence on the one hand and this rubbish on the other. This show and its guests are so predictable. As soon as a Republican get`s into trouble by his OWN doing, they wont discuss that but instead turn on Obama and his many 'scandals' that are actually THEIR concoctions. Something we unfortunately also get a taste of in certain comments on this thread too.

JL A (282)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 7:51 am
Ending a government contract with a corporation for non-performance is far more complicated than firing a worker for non-performance: remember all CA's major IT debacles. The government often has to go to court and have evidence a non-techie judge can comprehend to do so. Ability to fix will also be determined based on the quality and accuracy of the technical documentation, which is likely to have sufferred due to the speed of changes necessitated. Hope you turn the corner towards recovery soon TC!

P A (117)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 8:34 am
Thanks TC – so sorry you are still sick – but you are in my prayers daily (for what that is worth!).

Not being in a position to watch MSNBC directly I didn't realise that it had 3 hrs a day of GOP programming -and am very sorry to hear that indeed! I thought that (as you said) that somewhere that has Ed, Rachel, Chris and Lawrence would have a greater grip on sanity!

"Nobody EVER pays!" – said on video with apparent regret from a group that lies and lies and lies and never admits it or pays for their mistakes, a group that insists on starving the poor and grossly overfeeding the rich! Couldn't stay to watch more as I could feel my bp rising!

Yahey - have just seen I'm not alone in my feelings about the video. Whilst it is necessary to know what these blighters are saying, it must be for those with stronger stomachs than me, I'm afraid!

Joanne D (38)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 10:28 am
5:28, just under the new average of 5:39.

NY Times: Yet there are still public sector jobs in agencies which ought not to exist. Case in point the USDA's "Wildlife Services" (, not to be confused with any agency in the Interior Department with a similar name. Many people who care about wildlife and even spend a lot of time in the wild have never even heard of this group. And if you try to Google it you likely won't find it.

Pat A - Your quote "Nobody EVER pays!" - gee, doesn't that sound like "They ALWAYS get away with it"?

Cartoon - To the best of my recollection, no one had a bridge there at all. In thise days when people wanted to cross a river, they worked at it.

Pat B (356)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 11:35 am
Take care, and thanks, Tom...have a peaceful and restful day. Hope you get better soon.! (Watching SF vs Carolina game with family).

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 1:28 pm
Thanks TC. If you have not seen a doctor------you need to-----some of this stuff going around is realllllly bad ---please take care of you.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 8:19 pm
Thank You TomCat
Take care!

Vinnie m (334)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 9:27 pm
I agree with all of the above. *soapbox* Moving is so much hard work in itself. I hope you feel better soon my old friend and me too. *toyou*

TomCat S (133)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 11:44 pm
Thanks everyone. Still down.
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