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A New Republican Lie About ObamaCare


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TomCat
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TomCat S. (286)
Friday February 7, 2014, 1:30 am
Given the rollout difficulties the Obama administration have had implementing the Affordable Care Act, critics with have the brains God gave a special-needs cockroach would latch onto that meme and keep hammering. Fortunately, the above description overestimates the intellectual acumen of the Republican Party by a wide margin. Were that not so, they would not come up with lies as easy to debunk as their latest, that ending “job lock” takes jobs out of the economy.
 

Alan Lambert (89)
Friday February 7, 2014, 2:33 am
The CBO report actually projects a lower supply of labor and greater demand, therefore increasing the value of the labor
 

John S. (300)
Friday February 7, 2014, 3:57 am
TomCat, does "Given the rollout difficulties the Obama administration have had implementing the Affordable Care Act, critics with have the brains God gave a special-needs cockroach would latch onto that meme and keep hammering. " make any sense whatsoever? Did you translate into a foreign language on 1 site, and back in another? Perhaps someone switched your medicines? The problem in Europe is that they don't hire people, because the cost is very high (it's not hard to get rid of them, I organized that for 15 years).

CBO nearly triples estimate of working hours lost by 2021 due to Affordable Care Act can be found at that conservative website run by CNBC http://www.cnbc.com/id/101352868.
 

Gloria picchetti (286)
Friday February 7, 2014, 5:07 am
Special needs cockroach just made my day and it's only 7AM in Chicago!
 

Edwin M. (366)
Friday February 7, 2014, 5:11 am
They lie because lies are all they have and sadly those too lazy to do any research or use their own common sense accept these lies as facts. Thanks TC
 

tasunka m. (334)
Friday February 7, 2014, 6:44 am
It's called a cop out
Hope you are feeling better TC, thanks
 

Arielle S. (316)
Friday February 7, 2014, 7:06 am
Tom made perfect sense to me - but then when I see the word "cockroach", I do automatically think of Republicans. Granted, they are not all that stupid and insensitive but it would appear that those that are have begun to multiply. The GOP choose to see the negative in every single thing that involves Obama - they have convinced me that that every single thing they want is a negative and I will vote accordingly.
 

Robert B. (57)
Friday February 7, 2014, 7:23 am
Despite the typo, I had the brains to understand your comment. Thanks, Tom!! The ACA will ultimately increase jobs and productivity by keeping workers healthier, which in the end HELPS not hinders our economy. The Naysayers are simply misinformed and know not of what speak.
 

Carlene V. (203)
Friday February 7, 2014, 7:41 am
Of course they'd latch on to any negative, isn't that what the Repubs are best at? They'll hammer away until the elections and won't accomplish a thing then those too damn lazy to check will vote for these lying pieces of doggie turds once again.
 

Lona Goudswaard (68)
Friday February 7, 2014, 8:40 am
What I like especially about this post is that it questions the role of the media in perpetuating the lies the Republicans perpetuate (yes, the double word usage is intentional). We all by now the Republicans are simply incapable of doing anything else, they've given "tunnel vision" a whole new dimension of meaning. But why is the media (or some particular media) so readily playing along? That is a relevant, albeit rhetorical, question.
And whatever made me think that the Consumer News and Business Channel is among those?
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Friday February 7, 2014, 9:48 am
Daily Kos picked it up from Truthdig so I saw it there first. Unfortunately I don't think Ryan has anything to worry about. No Republican will grasp the significance of what he said - it will go right over their heads. I do love the phrase "special needs cockroach" or should it be "special needs Kochroach.."
 

Chris C. (147)
Friday February 7, 2014, 9:53 am
There are alot of insulted cockroachs out there! :-}
 

Dave C. (213)
Friday February 7, 2014, 10:01 am
I always assume if the GOP says it it must be a lie...haven't been proven wrong in decades.....if ever....
 

Vivian B. (153)
Friday February 7, 2014, 10:54 am
The Repuglicans have a meeting every time there is a new member in office so they can all pledge their allegiance to the party of "No, we won't work with President Blackman"! They make sure that anything that Pres. Obama is for, they are against.
Now, if we could just convince them that the President is all in favor of breathing, we would have a great time at the elections this fall!!
 

Winn Adams (191)
Friday February 7, 2014, 11:17 am
So what else is new with the GOP. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. . . .
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Friday February 7, 2014, 11:21 am
Ty
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday February 7, 2014, 11:51 am
and many Americans will, like pawn shops take anything in ,including the Repug lies.Too bad.
Smarten up middle Americ,the repugs are NOT on your side.
 

Deb E. (64)
Friday February 7, 2014, 12:12 pm
They don't hire people in Europe because the cost is very high? Could it be that some workers don't work in many European countries because the cost to go to work is very high? Income tax rates are extremely high and, for households with children, it isn't cost effective for both parents to work when child care expenses and high costs of gasoline are also factored into "costs of working". In America, they've made it so both parents have to work. To feel that only the rich should have children just seems ... Hitlerish. Some very brilliant minds have come from poor families. I know many who have been stuck in their jobs that didn't pay really well or that they hated, only because they could not afford health insurance outside of that job. That's how the labor market got slaves. Offer health insurance, but pay mediocre wages. The people are stuck because healthcare insurance premiums for a family of 4 were at about $1000.00 (or more) a month. And when manufacturing jobs have all left the country, we don't have many jobs for the masses anymore, so people take whatever job they can get. The only reason to push against the ACA is so that insurance companies can continue to charge outrageous amounts of money for insurance premiums. Many insurance companies are no longer really insurance companies. They are investment firms. Many now offer loans with high interest charges on those loans. It isn't right for corporations to be in the bloodsucking business in the land of the "free".

Anyone fighting against the ACA has never had to deal with major illness and no health insurance, or pre-exisiting condition and no way of getting health insurance. When you are fighting cancer, the last thing you should have to worry about is paying for treatment. Anyone against the ACA has no empathy for the suffering of others. This law will allow for everyone to help pay for those who cannot because the insurance companies were charging the money in premiums to be able to do that, but they weren't covering everyone. In a society where we would like to think of ourselves as advanced past the "me, mine, myself" attitude, there is nothing wrong with helping others who need help. And it shouldn't matter why they need help. And it shouldn't matter what ethnicity the people who need help are.

It is obvious that there are still many in the U.S. who believe we should still live in a dog eat dog world and may the strongest survive and they will do and say anything to keep their "king of the mound" status.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Friday February 7, 2014, 12:14 pm
We tend to "misunderestimate" the stupidity of RepubliCONs..;)
Thanks everyone for not feeding the troll!:)
 

pam w. (191)
Friday February 7, 2014, 12:43 pm
IS there a Republican who speaks the truth?
 

Louise D. (38)
Friday February 7, 2014, 1:29 pm
The whole web of lies about healthcare reform, the ACA is not universal healthcare in fact there are countries that have such provisions for decades. The Republicans fly in the face of the facts on every occasion from the claim about Stephan Hawking dying due the British NHS to Sarah Palin's death panels have all been found to be totally false. You would really have thought that they had learned their lesson though apparently not in this case.
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Friday February 7, 2014, 2:13 pm
Thanks for this one.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Friday February 7, 2014, 2:24 pm
Pam W. says it all. Thanks.
 

Mitchell D. (130)
Friday February 7, 2014, 2:41 pm
this is the kind of thing I was referring to, when I wrote, the other day, that you will have to maintain the "Republicans on Parade" line indefinitely, as they are soo good at idiocy.
 

. (0)
Friday February 7, 2014, 4:42 pm
Obamacare is evil. Thanks for sharing, Cal.
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Friday February 7, 2014, 5:40 pm
i am one of the people Republicans would gladly let die (not just because of my politics, and in spite of my post-graduate degree, but merely because I have several severe medical conditions that I can't afford, without governmental help, to let go untreated). My former employers were kind enough to let me go at the end of September--not that I'm biter or anything--but I quickly signed onto the Affordable Care Act / Obamacare, with even better coverage than I had before. (Still working on the salary, though...)
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Friday February 7, 2014, 5:44 pm
I would hasten to add that the loss of my position had nothing to do with the ACA rollout and everything to do with a supervisor that tried for three years to get rid of me, even though I was fully qualified and she wasn't. All in all, just as well my time there is over, I suppose.
 

JL A. (275)
Friday February 7, 2014, 6:13 pm
There was no such thing as health insurance in this country until after WWII. People got publicly funded basic health care at community health clinics and by visiting nurses. Soldiers who returned to manufacturing jobs told their unions they'd like to be able to have the kinds of surgeries they saw in the war if accidents causing similar injuries happened stateside and thus were the first group health insurance plans. As those plans grew to cover more things, government cut the funding for visiting nurses and community health clinics switching to a for profit health care system.
Ideologues aren't interested in ethical or proper use of data--just in things that conform to their predetermined opinions where facts do not matter.
 

Janis K. (97)
Friday February 7, 2014, 6:47 pm
Thanks for sharing, republicans only know how to lie, they can't help themselves.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Friday February 7, 2014, 7:14 pm
Right on JL! My husband's father had TB when young & his grandparents waited until the visiting nurse came around - he had to go to a sanitarium for 6 months.
 

John B. (215)
Friday February 7, 2014, 8:15 pm
Thanks Tom for the post, video clip and the link to the full article at Truthdig. Read and noted.
 

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Anne F. (17)
Friday February 7, 2014, 9:12 pm
No, abstract economics does not describe the real world. Yes, people take benefits into account when making decisions about employment. But, also, some people would start a business or change careers if they could buy decent health insurance.
 

ONBrakNoMESPLEZ D. (81)
Friday February 7, 2014, 9:13 pm
Thank you for your comment JLA clears a lot up here!
Thank You TomCat
 

Jason R. (58)
Friday February 7, 2014, 9:31 pm
They are clawing to keep their hater base. We have them by 16 easy points. They can only squeeze out 8% in election fraud. Some one tell them, the gig is up. Fascism will be quashed. Save your money.
 

James Maynard (68)
Friday February 7, 2014, 10:13 pm
It's not so hard to understand Chris (Hayes),
the fact is, except for MSNBC, most of the
media is owned, lock, stock and barrel by
the conservative elite .... wait for it....

We haven;t had a "Liberal Media" in oh so
many years......
 

TomCat S. (286)
Saturday February 8, 2014, 12:06 am
Thanks to all; except the two Republicans: the damn SPAMMER, and the one who could not understand what everyone else here could.

Kudos to Deb, JL, and more. ObamaCare is not the end solution, but it's a step in the better direction.
 

Lynn Squance (230)
Saturday February 8, 2014, 12:29 am
The bottom line: If it comes out of the mouth of a Republicanus/Teabagger, it is almost a guaranteed lie, or twist of the truth.

And the US media . . . the MSM seems more interested in sensationalism, not investigative reporting or truth. I have US friends that prefer to watch Canadian news to find out more accurately what's going on in the US.

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Past Member (0)
Saturday February 8, 2014, 3:51 am
Noted.
 

Gary A L. (133)
Saturday February 8, 2014, 8:50 am
well TC that's all the republinazi's have is the big lies and stupid people who believe them
 

Terrie Williams (768)
Saturday February 8, 2014, 10:22 am
My Dawg......Ayn Rand Ryan didn't spontaneously combust.....I am astounded.....I wouldda brought Jiffy Pop to that one!

They will spin this every which way but truthful and the truth is....people are no longer SLAVES to their jobs that they HATE if they are only staying for the health insurance...and that SCARES the Fascist Overlords.

And I like it when they're scared......

Spammer flagged.
 

SuSanne P. (182)
Sunday February 9, 2014, 3:07 am
Thank you TomCat! Excellent 'comments' but JL A's post......." health clinics switching to a for profit health care system." says it all.
"Ideologues (RePukeTeaCons) aren't interested in ethical or proper use of data--just in things that conform to their predetermined opinions where facts do not matter."
Spammer flagged too!
 

Winn Adams (191)
Sunday February 9, 2014, 10:17 am
Well said Tom, as usual.
 

Robert K. (31)
Sunday February 9, 2014, 4:04 pm
One thing you can take to the bank, if a Republican says it, it isn't true.
 
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