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Open Thread - 3/2/2014


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread, videos )

TomCat
- 290 days ago - politicsplus.org
Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).



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Pat A. (116)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 2:04 am
Re Bill Nye how on earth do people believe that 25% of GDP goes to foreign aid? I suspected that America (like the UK) gives less than 1% and that THAT aid has strings attached (contracts for dams built by aid-giving countries etc).

Daily Kos God bless the peaceful protestors!

Alternet because they believe in the sanctity of human life they killed people! Logical (NOT!). Sometimes I despair of humanity!

 

Gloria picchetti (300)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 6:37 am
If the US spent 25% of it's budget on aid to Africa most of us would live there in condos along the coasts partying our butts off.

Rugged Coast puzzle time - 8:55.
 

Carlene V. (203)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 8:15 am
Bill Nye explains the problem so easily but all the red tape involved and the money spent on useless wars is far more important to many politicians than saving children's lives.

The lone protester who had the gumption to speak said what we all know to be true. It's not going to change a thing in my opinion, those on SCOTUS who bow to corporate masters won't allow it, it's Robert's Court don't forget.

The death penalty, debatable for personal reasons.
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 8:40 am

Time: 3:12

What Bill Nye did not say: use some critical thinking skills, seek factual information not just information that reinforces what you think you know. Education is the key, whether in our foreign aid programs or in the US. People need to learn how to discern facts from fluff. Good foreign aid to me is building schools and hospitals, not weapons that will create more war. Yes, people die from disease and famine, but war is something that we can stop, by simply making the choice to not support wars. We can make the choice to have foreign aid be aid for the people and not money and guns for the leaders.

Beka books affect more than I have the time or inclination to write about here. We are not teaching with this publisher we are indoctrinating generations of dummies. Children that never have the opportunity to make a good choice because they are not offered good solid fact. (Teach your children well....)

Protest is the key to a good healthy democratic republic. We may not agree with each issue at protest but, each protest should make us stop, listen and think.

Thanks TC - you seem to be feeling better, soon I hope to do the same.

 

Dotti Lydon (112)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 8:40 am
I have always had mixed feelings about the death penalty. It is no longer legal in WA state. My RWNJ sister who is also a born again Christian Evangelical homophobe is adamantly for the death penalty, but against abortion for any reason what so ever.Go figure.
 

Terrie Williams (773)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 8:46 am
Couldn't open either videos so can't comment on those.
Couldn't open the link to the insanity pages.....sigh.....so can't comment on those either.
Death penalty......I prefer they be punished with life.....in prison....without parole in super-seg confinement, until they die a natural death. The dead feel nothing, no pain, no loss of freedom, no human contact, no remorse, no guilt, nada, nothing, zip. I want socio/psychopaths to feel all those things and think about their victim(s) the rest of their uncomfortable, unnatural lives.

But for Darth Vader Cheney, Dumba$$ Dubya, Rummy, Wolfie, et al......I'd make an exception....
 

Lona Goudswaard (79)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 9:58 am
Upworthy: Bill Nye says it all so well: contrary to belief hardly anything is spent on real humanitarian foreign aid. And contrary to belief it will actually benefit people if the money is spent on fighting preventable deaths by disease. This is also the message of Bill Gates and his foundation, but despite the admiration I have for the work they're doing in Africa, I rather hear the debunking of these myths coming from Bill Nye. No strings attached and all that.

Daily Kos: Yes, Kudos to the protesters of 99Rise who had the guts to speak in the name of many, if not most, Americans in a court that will not listen to democratic reason. They risked going to jail for this and we can only hope more and more people are willing to do that to show with non-violent protest that this court is making a mockery of democracy. It will hopefully awaken the American public and the members of SCOTUS.

Alternet: I couldn't agree more with Kit and advise anyone to read the whole article on what A Beka Books are trying either to deny children from learning (most of modern mathematics, including set theory and any science that doesn't come from the bible or is used to help people) of force down their throats (gun control is the gateway to tyranny, the death penalty manifests the sanctity of life and you get an STD if you disobey God). Goodbye 21st century, hello Middle Ages.

Cartoon: again so very true. How about testing the children taught with A Beka Books on some good old 21st century mathematics?
 

Pat B. (354)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 11:31 am
Daily Kos: Wonderful to see and hear the protestors of 99Rise speak their say. Hope that they continue.!!
Cartoon: In President Cleveland's response to Congress: (in part): " It is said, however, that the quality of recent immigration is undesirable. The time is quite within recent memory when the same thing was said of immigrants who, with their descendants, are now numbered among our best citizens". Twenty years after Cleveland's veto, a literacy requirement would be included as part of the Immigration Act of 1917.
Source: http://herb.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/781
Hope all is going well for you, take care, and thanks, Tom for this.



 

Chris C. (151)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 11:44 am
I LOVE me some Bill Nye. He's the BEST!
After I leave here, I'm going to www.99Rise.org.
I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I'd like them to suffer a long time on Death Row first!
 

Chris C. (151)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 11:47 am
Dotti Lydon -Your comment made me laugh out loud. I have one of those...right wing nutjob (RWNJ) ...except mine is my best friend of 35 yrs. We know better than to discuss politics.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 12:02 pm
4:25 I never realized "Ireland must be heaven" meant you would likely drown in the surf or be battered by the rocks and waves.

Upworthy - I wanted to know more also, and noticed the end of the video credited this. Well, I certainly got more. The Nye video is under Myth Two if anyone wants to look. A lot of stuff there and certainly some good partners shown at the end.

Daily Kos - I wouldn't mind the right wing claiming that money is speech if they would only realize that, in that case, the tons of money being poured into politics are shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. In other words, it's not whether it's speech, it's whether it's protected speech, and it isn't.

Alternet - The verbal equivalent of one of those Escher pictures like Concave and Convex or, maybe better, the lesser known Another World. You stare and stare and can't figure out how it's done.

Cartoon - Yeah, they must hate Cleveland. He was so strongly associated with getting rid of political corruption that he drew Republican votes from those who also opposed corruption (there were some then).

 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 12:04 pm
4:25 I never realized "Ireland must be heaven" meant you would likely drown in the surf or be battered by the rocks and waves.

Upworthy - I wanted to know more also, and noticed the end of the video credited this. Well, I certainly got more. The Nye video is under Myth Two if anyone wants to look. A lot of stuff there and certainly some good partners shown at the end.

Daily Kos - I wouldn't mind the right wing claiming that money is speech if they would only realize that, in that case, the tons of money being poured into politics are shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. In other words, it's not whether it's speech, it's whether it's protected speech, and it isn't.

Alternet - The verbal equivalent of one of those Escher pictures like Concave and Convex or, maybe better, the lesser known Another World. You stare and stare and can't figure out how it's done.

Cartoon - Yeah, they must hate Cleveland. He was so strongly associated with getting rid of political corruption that he drew Republican votes from those who also opposed corruption (there were some then).
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 12:06 pm
Sorry about the double post, it didn't show up the first time and I thought it was lost.
 

James Maynard (68)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 1:01 pm
Ragged coast
Ragged time
glub, glub, glub.....
 

Dave C. (227)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 3:14 pm
fascinating discussion, learned a lot about c2 friends I didn't know......and appreciated Bill Nye
 

JL A. (276)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 3:18 pm
Seems that SCOTUS is the last bastion of power without the semblance of supporting transparency for the public.

I do so enjoy facts and real history--thanks TC.
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 6:01 pm
Puzzle 3:36 I purposely floundered in hopes that one of those good looking Aussie lifeguards would rescue me.

Upworthy Love Bill Nye's tie! Sometimes I think that foreign aid should really be called "foreign profits". Too often there are strings attached so that the aid only comes at a price. What happened to genuine charity?

Daily Kos I cannot conceive of why a SCOTUS proceeding should not be recorded. After all, the cases are listed publicly and they have been before a lower court. Are the justices worried that every "giggle and fart" would show up? Or are they worried that they will be held accountable? Kudos to the recording maker and to the fellow that rose on behalf of the people.

Alternet Wack-a-doodle! . . . or what!

"Conservatives are masters at using distortion and subterfuge to sell people on things [or ideas] they would never buy if properly labeled."

Cartoon A Democrat who 2 days before the end of his 2nd term outlawed literacy tests for immigrants.
 

Mitchell D. (132)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 6:07 pm
Kudos to the SCOTUS protester!!
 

Edith B. (145)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 9:02 pm
Upworthy: Sadly, this is the perception of most Americans. If we quit spending so much on wars, more could be spent to save children.

Daily Kos: Yes what the protestor said is true, but I doubt Scrotus heard him.

Alternet: I am glad they didn't have the Beka books when I was in school,,because I had some teachers who would have used them. Holy cow, are these people for real? I know they are out there, but it is hard to comprehend their vast ignorance.

Cartoon: Someone needs to tell the Republicans about this.


 

Sheila D. (26)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 9:36 pm
Bill Nye is great. I love that he is trying so hard to teach people the truth. The 99Rise protesters are on the right path; let's hope they are heard. Apparently, Grover Cleveland lives on in the Teapartiers, rabid Republicans, and religious fanatics. Ignorance is rampant and the Beka books seem to have been published to keep us all stupid. How fortunate that not everyone buys into the hype. Thanks for another great post, TomCat.
 

Katie D. (111)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 9:55 pm
Oh How exciting when they escorted the protester out!
He said what he wanted n time!
Thank You TomCat
 

TomCat S. (231)
Sunday March 2, 2014, 11:53 pm
Thanks everyone,

Jo, strangely enough, it let me give you two stars for them.
 
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