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Open Thread - 3/9/2014

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Gene Jacobson (290)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 3:48 am
Great segment. But those three women are morons. You cannot spend food stamps at a casino, there are rules, regulations and fraud investigators. Of all the programs to cut, this is one that hurts children most, all those children republicans love so much before they are born and cannot abide once they are. That these fools believe what they say is undoubted, that it is also urban legend is also undoubted. That NONE of them make the connection to the rise in use being tied directly to the Bush economic crash, well, once again, fools. People are such gullible fools that seeing this (as Rachel Maddow points out) so that only your crazy uncle who only listens to Faux Noise think this a problem. And, of course, while these people are ranting, their 1% bosses are raking in the cash these poor people spend - cutting unemployment benefits is directly connected to those families needing more food support. Gawd they are idiots. Thinking, connecting the dots is just never going to be part of the republican method of coming up with campaign issues again. Ideology and hatred of the poor, women, minorities, immigrants - this is where they form their policies and ideas. Morally bankrupt and intellectually bereft. Welcome to the modern republican party. The only good news in all this is that I saw their list of 2016 "potentials" and they are the same bunch of fools who lost in 2012. Bodes well for the country because we already know how bat chit crazy people like Perry, Cruz and Santorum are. And that is a LOT by the way...

Dotti L (85)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:16 am
Great comment, Gene and very well put.

Pat B (356)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:45 am
Upworthy: Funny, but so true. He slams the RePugs good, on food stamps. "Meat porridge de-la Heinz." Hysterical.!! WWJS...;-)
Daily Kos: Great pic.!!
Gotta run, have a great day, relax, take care, and thanks, Tom.

Lona G (80)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:53 am
You feeling spacey didn't interfere with getting some interesting segments together, TomCat.

Upworthy: Jon Stewart has really nailed it in this segment. No matter what FOOD (even I know you can't spend it on much else) the needy spend it on, it's never the right food. It comes down to the Right wanting to get the message across that they believe there are no poor and needy who can't live without food stamps, just fraudsters, to-lazy-to-work, pampered, criminal low-lives who want to get your tax dollars for their lives of luxury of crab legs, wild salmon, fitness classes, trips to Disney, fish bait and worst of all Pampers. All of them lies, and Gene has explained better than I ever could how that works for Republicans.

Daily Kos: A picture can say more than a thousand words. This one shows perfectly that Fox News and all the lies no longer work.

TMP: It's no surprise that all Republicans voted against Debo Adegbile Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights. They vote against anything Obama puts forward and the fact that mr. Adegbile is son of a Nigerian father and an Irish immigrant mother hasn't helped, to be sure. However that 8 Democrats joined the Republicans is an absolute disgrace. Obama said it best: "Mr. Adegbile’s qualifications are impeccable. ... The fact that his nomination was defeated solely based on his legal representation of a defendant runs contrary to a fundamental principle of our system of justice " Shame on those eight who hid behind "the public outcry" and "lack of voter "confidence" in him". Afraid of their own voters, more likely.

Cartoon: also works on women, the elderly, the poor, the homeless, students...

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 10:09 am
5:42 and all wet.

Upworthy - You know, I had a friend (she has now passed away) who at the age of 10 was grabbed by some teenage boys, confined under a wire trash can, and sprayed with industrial pesticide (apparently they wanted to see how much it would take to kill her). Over the years she developed massive food sensitivities, to the point where she could not simply avoid foods she reacted to, since you can't get a balanced diet from fresh pineapple alone. (She had to eat on a very strict eight day rotation based on how close the DNA of foods were to each other). Is is a pretty good guess that her health precluded her from holding a job? Is is also a pretty good guess that she got foood stamp shamed? It's not the things people don't know that make them bigots, it's the things they know that ain't so. (Many people can't get hulu, especially outside the US. Daily Kos had the same vid in a different platform though.)

Daily Kos - Yes. I sure hope this translates to the voting booths. I am very afraid.

TPM - And this is one of the reasons why I love John Adams (and, incidentally, John Quincy Adams). None of those DINOs is mine, although I hear from a couple, who are not all bad, but I agree this is outrageous. Even though they are up for reelection and panicked. I suppose Mr. Adegbile is lucky he is even available to appoint, and not in prison like Lynne Stewart (yes, she is home now, though very, very ill - I haven't heard to the contrary so I assume she is still alive).

Cartoon - So awful there is nothing to say. Except please help however you can to prevent it from happening here to blacks and also to Hispanics.

Nameless - April 1 came early in Kansas? Good luck with that.

Arielle S (313)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 11:31 am
Why is it that those with so much are so unwilling to let anyone else have even a little? And why is it that Faux Noise is always leading the parade of selfish, grumpy ones?

Chris C (152)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 11:54 am
Gene - green star for your comment! Thanks.

Kit B (276)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 12:39 pm

Time 3:18 0 the waters flow

The SNAP program has about a 1% or less fraud, for any program government or private that is an amazingly low rate and part of that is that when trying to buy things not approved the card will reject the sale. I know if the poor want help they should just stop being poor. ( Fox News contributor Todd Wilemon). As this time there is no way for the poor to suddenly stop being poor it was not a choice to be poor. There are many programs that would alleviate the suffering, and save huge amounts of Federal spending, but hold on; those programs are even considered. The right wing thing is still dancing to Greenspan quote: "If workers are more insecure, that’s very “healthy” for the society, because if workers are insecure they won’t ask for wages, they won’t go on strike, they won’t call for benefits; they’ll serve the masters gladly and passively. And that’s optimal for corporations’ economic health." At the time, everyone regarded Greenspan’s comment as very reasonable, judging by the lack of reaction and the great acclaim he enjoyed.

I have been following some of the republican hoe down - as much as I could stomach, and they seem to become more intractable as they lose more of their base. Maybe they need a really big smack down at the polls to get the message, though I admit; in an off year election that is not probable.

In a nod to your mention of the stealing of Jewish rights to vote: two things come to mind, one it was not that Jews could not leave Germany, the problem was in getting to a country that would accept them and I have recorded and plan on watching the HBO Documentary '50 Children: The Rescue Mission Of Mr. And Mrs. Kraus' -- Depicts unlikely saviors Of 50 Holocaust children.

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Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 12:40 pm

Birgit W (160)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 1:03 pm
Thanks for sharing.

Jim P (3257)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 1:23 pm
Link to watch Jon Stewart oh Hulu. Copy and paste into your browser:

ty, TC.

Terrie W (798)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 1:44 pm
What Gene. Joanne and Mizzzzz Kitty-Kitty said......yeah, I'm rollin through this room too only this time I brought my trusty Star Bazooka with me....Here ya go y'all since the star police won't let me give you any for another hour or so.....and......rollin on out again.....damn, I got a snag in my fishnets.....I just can't dew stiletto heels anymore. Sigh

By the way....I flagged the spammer...again.

And by the way-way...I really hate Faux Noose and ALL their talking vomit-spewing upright POS Fascist Reich Meisterfuhrers of BULLSH**.....did I mention I really hate them?

Love the 'toon, Cat Daddy, even if it brings back horrid memories it is spot on as far as what the *(&^%&R%*^$&$#%&*_)@!&*^$!!#)%(#%)& Rethugs want to/and are doing to the minorities AND everyone else that are not Rethug/Bagger/Fundy/Fascist, etal. In other words all the rest of us in gerryrigged precincts and regions.

Ok....I'm really rolling out this time.....

Dianna M (16)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 1:50 pm
I got an email from Deb Fischer last week telling me how she voted against Adegbile--which came as no surprise. The last petition I signed on this subject, I did remember to say thank you to her, for not insulting my intelligence by repeating the Fox 'News' talking point about how Mr. Adegbile defended "an unrepentant cop-killer" but did point out that I would've had to've come back with that bit about founding father John Adams and his defense of the British after the Boston Massacre, and also the fact that Supreme Court Justice John Roberts once defended a convicted murderer pro bono.

I'm sure she always appreciates hearing from me. She says she does, in all her emails. Which I'm sure she reads personally.

James Maynard (84)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 2:22 pm
Jon Stewart is spot on.
The DINOs need to go away
along with the TPs and Reps.
Great cartoon.
Glub, glub, couldn't get the
faucet done in time to turn it

David C (131)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 3:27 pm
.......Jon Stewart is too serious to be comedy.......he is spot on as james says...once again faux noise means lies, lies, lies.

Margaret G (243)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 4:42 pm
I too am disappointed that Debo Adegbile was not confirmed and that my Democratic senator, Robert Casey of Pennsylvania, voted against him. Unfortunately I was not surprised at Casey's vote. Only the far left in Pennsylvania believe that Abu Mummia Jamal might be innocent. A great deal of Casey's base almost froth at the mouth at the mention of Jamal.

JL A (281)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 7:32 pm
Excellent picks TC for the news of the day and reminders that with the GOP the news continues to be a rehash of the same disregard for the constitution and the rights of persons who are 'different." The others have already covered the specifics well so I won't repeat.

Edith B (146)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:19 pm
Upworthy: I watched this segment earlier. Stewart really ripped the Gop. Love him!

Daily Kos: Fitting Picture. If I were a minority, I would run as fast as I could away from the GOP>

TPM: I wisn I had a Dino to give my opinion to, all I got is Mitch, who is interested in no one's opinion who has not cash, and Rand, who coudn't understand my opinion if I gave it. This vote illustrates how far away from the constitution our government has gone. The right of defense, a speedy trial, and innocent until proven guilty, have all fallen by the wayside.

Cartoon: Yes it does, as so many states have proven with their new voting laws, designed to keep minorities from voting. The GOP has apparently not been told that whites will soon be the minority in this country. Oops!

Edith B (146)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:25 pm
Flagged the spammer, and gave a bunch of green stars to those who made such wonderful, insightful comments.

Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday March 9, 2014, 9:54 pm
Puzzle — 3:27 Amen! Jerry. Amen!

Upworthy — "…Jon Stewart slices them [Faux Noise] up and serves them raw with his own special verbal jiujitsu sauce…"

I don't like sushi, but with the way Jon Stewart makes sushi out of Faux Noise, I do like it just fine!

Daily Kos — Too bad the Native Americans didn't deport the first settlers. Maybe then, the Republicanus/Teabaggers might have a clue!

TPM — Another tangled web!

"We need our young lawyers to aspire to be the next John Adams . . . Senate has told young lawyers that they must cast aside personal goals and ambitions if they choose to dedicate their careers to the belief that every citizen is entitled to a fair trial and a vigorous defense."

I guess that the constitution is for sale! Actually as I think about it, the Republicanus/Teabaggers are particularly adept at ignoring or selling the constitution, all in an attempt to stifle the people.

Cartoon — One citizen, one vote! The Republicanus/Teabaggers sure are trying to rewrite that ideal. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to limit the vote to angry old white men! No women, no minorities, no non property owners, no … you fill in the rest.

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TomCat S (129)
Monday March 10, 2014, 12:05 am
Thanks everyone. Don't forget, now!!

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Monday March 10, 2014, 12:23 am
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