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Maher on Crazy Gun Laws


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Campaign 2014, guns, maher, video )

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TomCat S. (232)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 12:07 am
I have said before that I love to bring you Bill Maher, when I can. Here he is in all his glory, but instead of the New Rules, this is an outtake of Maher being serious, or at least as serious as he gets. Sadly, it is also largely a criticism of Democrats that is all too well deserved.
 

Ivana Brekalo (66)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 12:22 am
Noted.Thanks!
 

Evelyn B. (59)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 1:09 am
The discussion hits some important issues. The comment that these 5 words would lead to forming more militias .... too true, unless there were a law on formation of militias.
I guess one has to be an American to understand why this issue is so violently supported. From outside, the "worship" of guns is incomprehensible.
 

Gene Jacobson (263)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 4:39 am
I have always considered a well-regulated militia, to refer to the right of states to maintain a group of citizen-soldiers in the event of a national meltdown - you know sort of the kind of thing Scalia would do, someone declares himself dictator and refuses to leave once his term is over. Or some such other issue.

This is the most gun crazy nation in the world: This from CNN, "...The question we should really be focused on is not the specific cause of a single shooting, but why there are so many of them in America. To remind you, in recent years there have been around 10,000 gun homicides a year in the United States. According to the United States, in Germany and Canada, there were fewer than 200. In Spain, fewer than 100. In Australia fewer than 50.

America's per capita gun homicide rate in 2009 was 12 times higher than the average of Canada, Germany, Australia and Spain. Does anyone think that we have 12 times as many psychologically troubled people as they do in these countries?"

If girls just want to have fun, boys just want to be cowboys, with guns. If you listen to the right wing in this country, were Christ alive today, he'd be driving a pickup truck with a gun rack picking off minorities as he slurped his cold Bud. There is no excuse big enough, good enough, reasonable enough for the number of gun murders in this country, not one.

One of my favorite movies is the American President with Michael Douglas and Annette Bening. It is a completely wonderful movie and during one part of it, as Michael Douglas is pondering environment reform, he asks about the NRA, just how powerful can one lobby be? Why are WE not asking that question. The NRA has less than 5 million members. How on earth is it possible that 313 million of us allow 5 million to dictate policy in this country of majority rule? Sure they vote, sure they support candidates but if voters are stupid enough to vote against an otherwise good candidate because he/she supports gun control, then they are too stupid to vote. One issue voters have never won an election in this country, apart from a few tea party denizens who lied about what they intended to do in Washington and are now on their way out at both the federal and state levels because of those lies. It is simply wrong to vote for a candidate lacking the moral fiber to call this epidemic what it is - insanitea. The proposed amendment to the amendment isn't really needed, what is needed is a SCOTUS with the brains to interpret the amendment as it is written. And we, the American people, MUST take our country back from the NRA. Let them whine and moan, there aren't enough of them to matter. So why let them?
 

Jana DiCarlo (49)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 5:24 am
I am a Canadian - it simply baffles me that ordinary pple can hold guns - and then society is surprised that there are shootings every day. OF COURSE !! what do you think will happen if pple have guns.

if it were just the "bad guys" shooting each other, I wouldn't care so much - let them finish themselves off. BUT , it is the innocent, the children, the bystanders, that all too often pay the price.
 

Jinny L. (76)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 6:37 am
The human race.....a race to idiocy!! Thanks for sharing TomCat.
 

Lona Goudswaard (90)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 6:55 am
Bill Maher may not be (as) funny this time but he's spot on as usual. “Our gun laws are so crazy, even crazy people know that they’re crazy,” he said when apparently even Fort Hood shooter Ivan Lopez questioned how easy it was for a person with mental health issues to have access to firearms months before attacking the base.
Why I like Bill Maher so much is because he's not afraid to rip where ripping is due and Democrats are definitely part of the problem where gun control is concerned and deserve to be ripped.
The signs were that Democrats were getting more Obamaballs and I think we all had hoped these were put to good use in gun control issues, but the "guns-everywhere Act" passed in Georgia with the support of Democrats showed us that Democrats still can't stand op to the Republicans/NRA even when they have the majority of Americans behind them.

And if you ask people who want to purchase a gun what they vote as a preliminary sanity screening, TomCat, the rest of the test is pretty arbitrary and a formality only when they say "Republican" or "Duh", don't you think? But then we don't want to be accused of discrimination, so when "GOP" is ticked, bring out those tests that really show them for what they are.
 

Mitchell D. (133)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 7:53 am
When the Dems collapse into silence, or quietly go along with the Repigs, for the sake of not stirring up the NRA whores, they are just as guilty of insanity as the the Repigs , and of moral failure, as they "know" the difference between right and wrong!
 

Pat B. (351)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 8:28 am
Good video of Bill. We are on a dangerous path when a nation gives a child, a young man/woman, at the bar/school/church, an opportunity to have a gun, and use it to maim and/or kill. The Dems need to stand up about this concern, and do the right thing.!! No amount of money brings a person back after being shot dead.
 

Terrie Williams (780)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 9:00 am
BIll is right and I agree with him.

Any Dem who goes along with this crap is an NRA bought b***h. They need to be replaced because they are DINO's. There are a lot of them up there in DC.
 

pam w. (139)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 9:09 am
We LOVE violence! Look at our media....we love it! Having a GREAT BIG GUN seems to fuel a deep-seated need in many of us. It's incomprehensible....
 

SuSanne P. (189)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 10:10 am
ThankX so much TomCat! I LOVED the show, especially when he is ON POINT. Excellent posts as I agree with all. It seems to me we as a country have LOVED violence always. People are CRAZIER but I think it's the same book, different chapter. I'm ashamed of my species! Children being slaughtered in the line of fire for no reason whatsoever other then another kid has snapped is old news. I predict the young innocents sitting in bars with their drunken fool gun "worshipers" (Evelyn-EXACTLY) and preschool or church being the "new black" (in reference to fashion NOT color!). Sent everyone Stars! Unfortunately I'm unable to give you one so soon TC!
 

SuSanne P. (189)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 10:12 am
*another kid OR adult* toting his piece*
 

Wayne W. (12)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 10:12 am
Thank you, TomCat.

For anyone who didn't see this, the GOP has now thrown nuclear weapons into the Second Amendment mix:
13 Things You Won’t Believe The Man Who Could Be North Carolina’s Next Senator Said
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/13-things-you-wont-believe-the-man-who-could-be-north-caroli

North Carolina Senate candidate Greg Brannon is what's wrong with the Republican Party
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17/1292737/-North-Carolina-senate-candidate-Greg-Brannon-is-what-s-wrong-with-the-Republican-Party

Brannon says it “would be much better” if we had state militias instead of a U.S. Army.
Brannon believes the Second Amendment extends to owning a nuclear weapon, citing the needs of local militias..

***
Brannon doesn’t believe in public schools. He says “democracy means minorities get crushed” and the U.S. is a Marxist country, and said definitively, “I wouldn’t have public schools.”

Brannon doesn’t believe in required schooling or “forced education.” He says Upton Sinclair’s famous book The Jungle on working conditions was “pure fiction” and “propaganda,” adding it was used “to get government hands” into regulation.
 

Joanne Dixon (41)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 11:39 am
This is the area where the survey that showed BOTH Liberal AND Conservatiove politicians believe their constituencies are more Conservative than they are really shows up. Conservatives think they have backing they don't really have. Liberals are fully backed by their constituencies but fear they are not. Of course, fiascos like the recall in Colorado last year just make it harder to see where the truth lies. (Incidentally John Morse who was recalled at that time has a new project which I believe deserving of support.)

I have been saying for thirty years that the NRA should be the LEADER in developing responsible gun control. It does have many sane members - I have talked with some - they are not all like Wayne LaPierre. But if they abdicate to Wayne LaPierre and his ilk, eventually there will be a backlash that puts in gun control that they will not like. And I still believe that will come. Maybe about the same time as the bloody Revolution, but still, eventually.
 

Winn Adams (211)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 11:40 am
The new gun laws in Georgia are insane. It makes me sick and sad to think what that state has done and any Democrats who support this OR Keep Silent are just as bad as the Republicans. Maher is right on. I can only imagine what people from other countries think of Americans. They must think all of us want or already own a gun. Very sad. This just can't continue and some how some way we have to stop the NRA and all who work for them who are elected officials. I will Never vote for an elected official no matter the party if they support softer gun legislation and if their supporters own businesses I will no longer do business with them.
 

Vivian B. (164)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 11:46 am
I got to watch Bill last night. He was so spot on in calling out the grandson of Jimmy Carter for going along with this farce of a "Guns Everywhere" law! He should have done something other than follow the TP into gun orgasms!!
I am so sick of hearing about Cliven Bundy, I could puke! He is a prime example of a "Welfare MOOCHING Queen"!! He needs to be in jail for sedition and treason!
The gun movement won't change until there is an assassination of someone that is (sadly) dearly loved by the majority of the nation. Children don't matter anymore. School shootings are way too common now. It will come to a sorry.end, I'm afraid.
TC, we love your posts!! Double green stars for this great piece!!
 

Dave C. (233)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 12:04 pm
heard John Paul Stevens on NPR this weekend, looking forward to reading his book...Maher is awesome.......I think the Dems could separate themselves on several issues.....guns, marijuana, support of ACA, stronger legislation on climate/pollution, getting rid of KXl, etc....
 

Arielle S. (316)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 12:59 pm
A local group here is giving away a Baretta shotgun for supporters of the local football team. This is what sane people are up against. Perhaps this is also why people move here with high hopes and leave a year or two later...
 

Chris C. (153)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 2:26 pm
Maher is right on. And Dems need to get some guts and use this opportunity - not shy away from it.
 

James Maynard (74)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 3:34 pm
Crazy is putting it mildly, Cat Man.
We need serious gun control in
this country.
 

Birgit W. (157)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 3:46 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

TomCat S. (232)
Sunday April 27, 2014, 11:42 pm
Damn Republican spammer!

Thanks everyone. Jana, a higher percentage of Canadians than US citizens own guns. The difference is cultural and Republican.

Bingo, Lona.

Wayne, that boggles the mind!!

Jo, the NRA does not represent its members. They represent the gun manufacturers. Back when I was a member, they were what you describe.
 

Deb E. (63)
Monday April 28, 2014, 12:06 am
Seems nothing is sacred in this country anymore. Everything is for the money. Everything. People get taken by mortuaries who claim to cremate your loved one alone, and then you get the ashes, then some of these places have gotten busted for cremating more than one person at the same time and then just divvying up the remains amongst the families. Nothing is sacred, and integrity and common sense have flown the coop!!! Guns everywhere? I guess no one in Georgia read about history in the wild, wild west. Wonder when the first shoot out at the OK Corral, Georgia style, will happen. Thanks for the video. Maher gets it right again, as usual. There is another issue that has a 90% backing of the people in this country, and that is the labeling of GMOs. Our DEM president promised in 2007 that he'd get that done if elected. Still waiting on that, too. I guess we all need to storm around with our own militias to get anything done. Cliven Bundy sure was able to do what he wanted by having his own militia with him. Unarmed kids, calmly sitting on sidewalks, protesting corporate takeovers of the country, get beat with night sticks and sprayed with pepper spray or shot with rubber bullets. Cliven Bundy, who shows up at his protest of the laws of the Federal government with a freaking armed militia of his own gets nothing? I'd say the Dems need to start speaking a LOT louder about what is going on in this country.
 

A F. (130)
Monday April 28, 2014, 1:07 am
Love the Maher, thanks!
 

SuSanne P. (189)
Monday April 28, 2014, 4:34 am
Excellent posts and I've appreciated reading each one! Again, TY TC!
 

William S. (0)
Monday April 28, 2014, 6:28 am
I've stumbled onto a forum with insane people who have no clue toward personal responsibility and basic freedom. Those countries that have very low murders using guns have very high murders using other stuff.
 

JL A. (285)
Monday April 28, 2014, 9:40 am
Maher tells it like it is and it is sad so many have sold their souls to the NRA's gun manufacturers instead of allegiance to the common good.
 

Shirley B. (5)
Monday April 28, 2014, 11:12 am
Maher (love him) is right. Dems need to stop wussing around and get on the horse. Sanders, Warren and Grayson have no problem with their positions on the real issues.They need to stop mumbling and shout it out.
@TomCat: Please keep us informed about the FCC net neutrality thing.
 

TomCat S. (232)
Tuesday April 29, 2014, 12:49 am
Thanks to all but one.

William, horse feathers!!
 

Robert K. (31)
Tuesday April 29, 2014, 8:49 pm
In 1939 the SCOTUS ruled that the second amendment applies solely to the National Guard. Why are we still having this discussion?
 

William S. (0)
Friday May 2, 2014, 6:00 am
sorry tomcat, I didn't mean to confuse you with facts. Look at this:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/nyc-more-black-babies-killed-abortion-born#.U2OT9zyC5lo.facebook

Black mother are killing more babies than guns ever could.
 
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