Sunday May 25, 2014, 2:59 am
I’ve seen school lunches. I don’t see how one could cost more than a couple dollars. I’ve seen how people, who have to live on food stamps eat. Calling it meager is an understatement. On the other hand, in my youth, I used to wait tables in some rather high end establishments, and have seen wall street types drop several hundred dollars (in 1960s money), while partying on the company credit card. So, what do these have in common?
Sunday May 25, 2014, 4:48 am
"What they’re offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul," Paul Ryan oozed. He and his cronies don't give a damn about their souls, because they also take away people's education, welfare and jobs, but they like to see their stomachs empty to fit their ideal picture. It's so much nicer to overeat and drink and the taxpayer paying for it when you know you've saved the taxpayer a few dollars by starving the poor kid's bellies and minds. Makes you want to order another round at their expense.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 5:49 am
Give the Republicans enough rope, and they will hang themselves. It's bad enough that they are playing wolves in sheep's clothing by claiming that public assistance hurts the poor - but when they turn around and shovel huge subsidies into the insatiable maws of greedy corporations, that is hypocrisy at its worst. Yes, there are a few moochers on the dole; but most people receiving food stamps and the like do so because their wages are at rock bottom. If you really want to get people off welfare, pay them a living wage!
Sunday May 25, 2014, 7:42 am
Prior to the great recession, the majority were on welfare or food stamps for less than a year and a vast majority for less than three--these safety net programs supported the effort to get back on their feet. If you exclude those who are working at less than living wages, that would still be true. If they actually were supporting living wage job creation, their argument might make some semblance of sense.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 8:47 am
Take a look at what Freya wrote (7 posts up) because she's right.
The only part I'll take issue with is ''give them enough rope.'' Unfortunately, so many people have been BRAINWASHED into believing their lies.....it'll take a lot of misery before the average conservative voter actually SEES the pain they've caused.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:09 am
"It’s the tax subsidy for corporate meals, drinks, and entertainment. Multimillionaire CEOs can go wining and dining on your and my dime, writing off their high-dollar lunches, cocktails, dinners, and club hopping as a business expense. And expensive it is for us taxpayers – this subsidy adds up to more than $12 billion a year…"
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:16 am
There's an old saying that I can't quite remember, something like 'a hypocrite looks after your soul, an honest man feeds your body' - rather in the way that hypocrites like Lyin Ryan wants to take food from the hungry under the guise of caring for their souls – what a horrible apology for a human being.
Take the 12 billion from the multinationals and giant corporations and feed the poor and give them decent living conditions – and all of these companies in all of our countries should pay their taxes – bunch of money grabbing freeloading Scrooges!
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:34 am
I am not trying to proselytize the wonderful atheists and agnostics who hang out here and whom I love with all my heart, but when a POS like Paul Ryan masquerades as a Christian, I get an irresistable compulsion to condemn him from his own book. James 2:15-16 "And if a brother or sister be naked and want daily food: And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit?" also James 2:2-9 "For if there shall come into your assembly a man having a golden ring, in fine apparel; and there shall come in also a poor man in mean attire: And you have respect to him that is clothed with the fine apparel and shall say to him: Sit thou here well: but say to the poor man: Stand thou there, or: Sit under my footstool: Do you not judge within yourselves, and are become judges of unjust thoughts? Hearken, my dearest brethren: Hath not God chosen the poor in this world, rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which God hath promised to them that love him? But you have dishonoured the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you by might? And do not they draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme the good name that is invoked upon you? If then you fulfil the royal law, according to the scriptures: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself; you do well. But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, being reproved by the law as transgressors." Both from the Douay-Rheims translation.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:40 am
I can't even be civil on this subject today....OK, on any day really. Hypocrites is an understatement.
Can't wait until all their hacking away at what the very poorest of this nation need to just EXIST...finally catches up with all these sorry excuses for human beings.......it's coming. Hope I survive long enough to see it, let alone participate. But....it is coming.
Methinks maybe a time shall come when we the people will remember history....and purposely repeat it instead of by ignorance.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:46 am
" The message is: We’re doing this for the poor people’s own good. "
Well, we shall see how well that message plays in November this year and 2016, because it isn't going to change between now and then. What WOULD be good for the people is to do what you mentioned at the end, Tom, and eliminate the corporate tax shelter for "business" meals and travel. That free gift to the wealthy is way past its expiration date if it ever was useful it certainly is no longer in this day of the global economy and technological marvels that let people conference from their living rooms if they wish. Corporations do not need tax subsidies to profit, they need watching more. The tax code is antiquated and long overdue for a real overhaul. I wonder if the political courage will ever be found to do so.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:59 am
I suggest that we do the souls of Paul Ryan and his ilk a megaton of good by removing this subsidy... then we can take the savings and spend it on feeding people who are too damn hungry to care about much more than their bodies, create some jobs that pay actual living wages, and shelter the homeless.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 1:32 pm
Both sides are wrong. None take in extended consequences. Many "conservative" thin that the more restrictions and bias toward food stamp users will make their faithful. Not realizing that many people make pay checks on that usage. But also those dinners mean employment for thousand too. The problem is the convoluted and messy tax code.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 1:43 pm
Let's see, Mitt Romney whining about the "47% of Americans who don't pay taxes" to a bunch of people who, like himself, have billions of dollars socked away in overseas tax havens . . . Paul Ryan whining about "full stomachs and empty souls" to a bunch of soul-less pigs . . . Surely, this hypocrisy can't be a surprise to anyone here?
Sunday May 25, 2014, 2:36 pm
I hope the Democrats can get elected so that they take control of our government again. Then they can actually prove to the people which side of the aisle they really stand on. So very sad that so many people have been fed enough BS to believe that ALL Dems are actually on the side of the Republicans, thinking no politician in either of the present two parties is any good, enough so that they are now going to vote for nothing but Independents in the next National elections. Wonderful! Split the vote and let the Republicans waltz on in! I say get rid of the Republicans by voting only Democrat ... then the Democrats can show you whose side they are on ... The People's or the Corporation's. That is the only way to see what the Party will do when given the chance.
It is so terribly obvious to anyone that the Republican Party is nothing more than puppets for the billionaires. I can't see how anyone who isn't one of them would vote for them. I get disgusted with them that they have taken over by claiming they are God's people. They are not. I guess they forgot to read the words of the Christ they supposedly follow.
There is so much taxpayer money wasted with subsidies to every large Industry in this country. It makes me sick. But these Industry giants feel that the lowly poor don;t pay taxes and so why should they get anything back from this government. They feel they are entitled because they pay at least some taxes. They are all disgusting. So selfish and greedy. Term limits for all in D.C. No retirement packages. It should be a privilege to work in Washington, DC as a Representative of the people, not a lifelong career to aspire to and become rich off of.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 2:56 pm
"…that doesn't count the human cost of executive initiative that is sapped by this giveaway and the lack of love a CEO feels from being dependent on unsmiling taxpayers."
I love it when a situation can be turned right back at the Republicanus/Teabaggers and 1%!
For so-called Christians, the likes of Ryan et al have no acquaintance with the works of Jesus. They adopt the name but not the philosophy. They much prefer to harken back to the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) where the laws are laid out in Deuteronomy and Leviticus; where an eye for an eye is acceptable. Well if they want to cancel SNAP and other social welfare programmes, then they can go back to an eye for an eye, where there should be the total nullifcation of "meals and entertainment" on the taxes of corporations etc.
What is good for the goose, is good for the gander in this case.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 8:26 pm
Heidi, that sounds very like Jamie Oliver's experience in Italy a few years ago. In one small town, children were given a cooked meal at lunchtime - what's more, the meals were cooked from all organic produce. I don't remember the cost, but it was very cheap.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 9:29 pm
I shared Joanne's quotes from the Bible on Facebook. So many Republicans claim to be Christians but have somehow failed to remember what Jesus Christ said for us to do. I think it is time to kick out the moneychangers from the temple. Paul Ryan would be the first to go, followed by Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul.
Sunday May 25, 2014, 10:52 pm
Thanks to all and more kudos than I can count.
However, Scott, in an awful lot of the business dinners I saw as a waiter in a high-end restaurant, the only jobs being created were for the hookers at the table. The 1% are not the job creators. The people who buy the products and services create the jobs.