Thursday July 31, 2014, 12:17 am
I fully support the First Amendment to the Constitution of the US, so I agree that an individual has the right to believe in a literal interpretation of the Old Testament, even though I do not. However I do have a problem with public tax dollars being use to propagate Old Testament myths. That is exactly what Kentucky Republicans are doing.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 5:32 am
I caught this on TV with Lawrence.....glad he did what he did. When there is a backlash on this, they'll yell, "us poor Christians everyone is picking on us". But let any other religious group try this stunt and all hell would break forth.
They tried, last election in Florida, to get tax payer monies to support the schools that Churches have set up. The tax was smothered in with some fancy wording to get one over on the people. I stood out on the streets against it and informed as many voters as I could. Many of those who attended churches did agree, taxes are not to go into private church schools, thankfully it was shot down.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 5:52 am
Thanks, TomCat, that really made my day. It may cost you American taxpayers $18.25 million, but Lawrence O’Donnell's Rewrite must be worth that, surely! LMAO: especially when God became so enraged that he killed every man, woman and child (and foetus)...
The Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously for this Ark Park (how O'Donnell loved those words). It's about time someone started to follow the money again and find out how much each of them was paid or promised in contracts to vote along. That's the way it works, you see: you 'invest' a million or so on these board members, probably taken out of the petty cash from a church fund, and you get $18.25 million in return and on top of it anything the Ark Park makes. And if it doesn't attract any true Christians? That's the taxpayers' loss, isn't it.
Sideline: did you know that "ark mart" is South-Afrikaans for pet shop?
Another sideline: a Dutch guy, Johan built an 'replica' of the Ark a few years ago and without tax dollars. Just € 4 million funding and investment he got together himself. I passed the ark in the harbour of Dordrecht on my way to work and it was strange to see this large wooden tub there.
Wickipedia says that this is a real 'replica' because it is a boat that floats, the Kentucky version however is going to be a building on the shape of a boat on dry land, so it isn't even a 'real replica' of a boat that never existed! ROTFLMAO
Thursday July 31, 2014, 8:06 am
Yet another area of government that either cut the positions of qualified lawyers to advise, didn't consult or refused to listen and thus created major liability to pay out in damages by the poor taxpayer.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 8:07 am
Well, first amendment--ok, I agree with that 100%...if they want to have a PRIVATELY FUNDED Sky Daddy Smiting Everything That Drew Breath Back In The Day Fleece The Ignorant And Gullible Park, OK by me. BUT....really big but here....NOT ON MY OR ANYONE ELSE'S TAX DOLLARS. PERIOD.
Sorry for the caps peeps, but this crap really amps me up.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 9:17 am
I have come to believe, and I know many here agree, that all tax exemptions for all non-profits should be abolished. Period. Federal, state, and local alike. But I have to point out that if Kentucky has this Let's-Support-Tourism law, and it would apply to, say, a Star Wars Theme Park, it would legitimately also apply to this Awk Pawk. Both are fantasy. The fact that one is religious fantasy would be irrelevant. Abolishing tax exemptions would not change it, except that tax dollars might then flow both ways.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 11:41 am
Ah, Lawrence, I love you, man. In a platonic way - just to be clear and safe from being turned into a pillar of salt or offered up to Lot's visitors as a plaything, you know. I can't wait for Lawrence's report on what he is told when he asks why sharks were preferred to doves. The thing about literally interpreting the bible, well, he's right, who does that anymore? I grew up Lutheran, my mother and grandmother were both Sunday School teachers. My mother taught me to read before school, she was just 20 when I was born and I guess I was amusing and something of a smart mouth given that I was the oldest grandchild and my playmates were all adults, plus her 15 and 17 year old brothers. Which sort of explains that smart mouth part. Anyway, it wasn't long after I started Sunday School that I was forbidden to ask questions because I'd been reading that book - a huge children's bible and it was the only book I had. And I had questions. They start right away, I mean there are four people in the world, Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel. Cain kills Abel and is exiled with his wife. Wait a second, his who now? Where did SHE come from? I had a lot of questions like that. I just don't get how anyone could take all that literally and as Lawrence pointed out, despite what they say, no one really does anymore, not even the "earth is 6000 years old" people are stoning adulterers any more. In this country anyway. Then, I remembered a very funny piece I got years ago and figured was on the net somewhere and I found it. So enjoy this.
In her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, penned by a US resident, which was posted on the Internet. It’s funny, as well as informative:
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination . End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fan,
J M K, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
(It would be a damn shame if we couldn’t own a Canadian :) Sorry, Lynn. :^)
Thursday July 31, 2014, 11:43 am
Arielle, the issue is that they don't/ can't think!
This is a money making thing, based on the "Creation Museum." In terms of "don't/can't think,"the fellow who put together that farce of a museum , as I have stated here previously, told Ted Koppel, of "Nightline," in a live interview, that he was moved to do it when "the evidence for Evolution became overwhelming."
In Tuesday's NY Times, Science Section "Letters to the Editor," column there were 2 quotable comments just waiting for this kind of opportunity: JN, of Brooklyn wrote "The persistence in maintaining ignorance in the face of convincing new information may be our species most defining trait;" while David, of California wrote "Questioning Evolution (or any other theory) is fundamental science, but speculation disconnected from observation is not."
They were writing in response to an article titled "Beyond Energy, Matter, Time and Space," in last week's paper.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 12:09 pm
I just got off the phone with a cousin living in Ft.Thomas, Ky., who said that people have been fighting this abomination for two years, writing letters, etc., and are simply being ignored!
Idiocy begets idiocy!
Thursday July 31, 2014, 1:04 pm
If Kentucky doesn't mind being seen as even more stupid than the usual suspects (Mississippi or Alabama spring to mind), then they Should LOAN the money to this idiotic "theme park". – tax exempt is pushing it, even IF it's billed as not-for-profit (not for prophet? ;). Gifting the park the money is just too much like tithing for favors – but is very Dark Ages, buying indulgences on earth to get yourself or others out of hell…maybe it'll keep the kids from running away to Colorado (or *shudder* that permissive state, Alaska!
PS. Love SoINeedAName's "Talibangelical christianists."
Thursday July 31, 2014, 8:50 pm
Joanne D has it right. This is all about tourism dollars and they know there are plenty of people in the Bible belt who will come. The bottom line in Kentucky is anything that will create jobs and increase the tax base.
Thursday July 31, 2014, 8:57 pm
There might be lots of tourists in the Bible belt, but I suspect this may be one ark that won't float!
Personally, I have problems with taxpayer funds being used for private enterprise like this. Not only that, why should a Muslim or Buddhist or someone from whatever other religion have their tax dollars used like this? I did not include the Jews because Noah's Ark is from the pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible), part of the Torah.
Friday August 1, 2014, 11:52 am
What Lynn just posted!!!!!!!!!!! It's part of the Torah NOT the New Testament....so are they Jews or are they Christians (the Tablibangical kind, not real ones)....????? FFBB's who worship the Almighty Dollar.