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Open Thread - 8/12/2014

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Lona G (80)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 3:21 am
Glad your bout of GOP-overload didn't take too long, TomCat. We can't have you getting depressed because you care too much about the state of the world, and the USA in particular. Depression is apparently what made Robin Williams take his life; isn't it terribly sad that a man who could make millions of people laugh with his sharp wit and clownish antics, just couldn't see the joy in living any longer. He will be missed terribly.

Irish Times: The Kurds are already fighting ISIS very hard and lost a lot of their weaponry in the battles, so from that perspective it seems defensible to arm their forces. However, the Kurdish people are somewhat comparable to Palestinians and Armenians in that they are spread across several countries when borders shifted or were drawn in by ignorant Europeans in 1918 to create Iraq. The Kurds have always fought for their own sovereign state and has been most noticeable in Turkey and Iraq. Erdogan will be far from pleased that the Kurds are armed by the US and it might eventually lead to Turkey backing ISIS and shifting to a sectarian state even faster. It is also very unclear what will happen in the region if the Kurds manage to bring ISIS to its knees with help from the West. They might well continue their fight for their own indepemdence.
The Middle East isn't just one powderkeg but dozens of them all linked together with fuses.

Alternet: Mobility of capital? Come on WSJ, what do you take us for? How much mobility is there between the 1%? The downward trickle of capital was a fable, the mobility of capital leading to more declared income and hence more taxes paid is a fata morgana. But I bet the GOP is going to believe every word of it, no, sorry, wants us to believe every word of it.

Huffington Post: I don't think I'm familiar with either, so I can't wait to see a video clip of you chimp, hopefully after it has brushed its teeth.

Cartoon: That brings back some memories, TomCat. I started on computers that had nothing personal about them either, just a hunger for punch cards and punch tapes. But those first PC's were something to behold; you could even transfer data on floppy disks, at that time the size and the consistency of a pancake. Ah, the good old days.

Gloria p (304)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 4:57 am
Crank gear puzzle time; 4:39.

Common Dreams article shared.

Pat B (356)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 6:36 am
Cartoon: Good one. I remember the good old days too. While in the military, the mode of typing was on the old IBM MTST, (Magnetic Tape/Selectric Typewriter). It was an arduous process, as one had to proofread the many documents and letters for accuracy. Ah...the memories. BTW...My elderly neighbor still has dial up.
I'm out the door, have a ton of stuff to do elsewhere. I know that you would have gone to see your guys, but the heat there and here is hot, and more hot. I can't wait for cooler weather. In the meantime, do take good care, kudos on your counter, have a good day, and thanks, Tom.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 8:39 am
9:29 Average is up but only to 4:49. I don't know why I even bothered to try left handed. Ambidextrous I am not.

Irish Times - Is that reference to Maliki to his nation, his brains, or both and just a happy accident?

AlterNet - Having no securities taxes makes capital mobile, all right. It moves from rich person to rich person to rich person to the Cayman Islands fast enough to make a poor person's head spin. I'd think it would be better to have it stable than mobile. As for sinners, if the shoe fits ....

HuffPo - Well, let's hope you don't end up with what you described.

Cartoon - I never had a Commodore, but those who did swore by them. As opposed to at them, which is what we do now.

Arielle S (313)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 9:35 am
Robin Williams was a very sensitive soul - not easy in today's world. This is a piece from his "Dead Poet's Society" - his best movie, for me.:

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 11:22 am
"lower tax rates increased the mobility of capital"..from Wall $treet to the Caymans?

Chris C (152)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 12:10 pm
My heart cries for Robin Williams and his family. RW was a genius - the funniest man that ever lived and a wonderful serious actor!

Terrie W (798)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 2:32 pm
RIP Sweet Robin, no more pain and anguish. You will be sadly missed ....forever.

As to the rest of the news---SSDD....only the FFBB's could twist good things into bad and get away with it. I so loathe them.

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 2:59 pm
Thanks for sharing TC.
Robin Williams please RIP.

JL A (281)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 3:15 pm
America welcomed with awe the comedic genius as they first met Mork and Robin's versatile talents never disappointed. May he have the peace he apparently didn't find in life in his final rest. 25% of adults have at least one depression episode in their lives--sad there is not more acceptance and support for mental health needs to prevent this kind of loss.

I worked on one of those IBMs (and some early Univacs, too).

For years WSJ was a trusted source for me and then Murdoch bought them...

Haven't watched MTP enough (or any TV) in recent years to have a feel for either talking head.

Even DFA members are divided on exact perspective in balancing the human rights and humanitarian needs in preventing worse atrocities with avoiding unneeded and pointless war.

Sorry your ride bailed on you--yet glad you may get more respite and other of what your body may need most given the weather.

Sheryl G (363)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 4:32 pm
"No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world." Robin Williams

Thank you Robin for the laughter and the memories. RIP

Nanu Nanu

Mitchell D (104)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 6:37 pm
Did Lona say "GOP overload?" I was just thinking along those lines after seeing today's "Parade" of fools; was thinking that your ill health may be collateral damage from the focus you put on folowing the GOP idiocy so closely.
If these idiots thrive, and reproduce (OMG!), it is only because they are living in this time of technology. If they were part of a traditional hunter-gatherer culture they would not be able to figure out which end of the spear is the working end!

Lynn Squance (235)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 8:16 pm
Puzzle 2:54 Who's got the WD-40? I think I am a bit rusty!

Robin Williams A gentle, funny soul gone before his time. He sure made me laugh especially in Patch Adams, Mrs Doubtfire, and Good Morning Vietnam.

"I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up all alone, it's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people that make you feel all alone." Robin Williams

As a person who suffers from depression and takes medication to try and keep things in check, I can attest to some of the devastation of depression. It ain't nice! And it is, like many diseases, different from one person to the next.

Irish Times Al-Maliki has a choice to make. Either try to hold onto power and its inherent financial benefits la Republicanus/Teabagger example, or step aside and let someone else draw the parliament together in a cohesive working arrangement for the good of the country and people. He is a Shi'a and will not last long with the fundamentalist, extremist ISIL which is Sunni. Either way, he can kiss his butt goodbye.

Alternet It has the "terrorist" tactics of News Corp/Rupert Murdoch all over it. Anything for power and greed!

Huff Post I hope Gregory slides into the sunset permanently. Anybody would be better . . . even me! (which isn't saying much for Gregory).

Cartoon I got my first PC in 1998 but did not get the internet until 2005 so I was well past the "everyone uses dial-up" stage. I did however use a dedicated dial-up at work for obtaining credit bureau reports. I'd sit there listening to all the little musical sounds, almost like Maxwell percolators on steroids. My condolences Nameless that you use a dial-up.

Edith B (146)
Tuesday August 12, 2014, 8:35 pm
You are probably better off staying home if there is a heat advisory although I know you will miss your guys. I think all of us are sad about Robin Williams, he was one of the greats.

Irish Times: I agree with your assessment and will go further, Ithink the Kurds should have been armed a long time ago and allowed to separate from Iraq. They were doing well on their own. I am glad we are helping them. Maliki was a Republican who only sought to take care of those who were in his own circle of friends.

Alternet: The Wall Street Journal used to be a respected paper, not any more. It is a tool for Murdoch to express his right wing views.

Huffington Post: I will be happy to wave bye bye to Gregory, but I am not sure Todd will be a lot better.

Cartoon: We had been using computers at work since 1975, but only "in house". When the first PC's were introduced, we were in a panic. This meant we would be talking to people instead of using pre programmed applications. I dragged my heels for a brief time, but soon learned to love the. Compared to what we have now, those were dinosaurs.

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday August 13, 2014, 12:08 am
Thanks all. Lona got me again.

I got my first computer in 1974. It had 4K RAM and cost $7,000,

Ingo Schreiner (8)
Wednesday August 13, 2014, 12:23 am

Sarah Markey (39)
Wednesday August 13, 2014, 1:45 am
Legalise cannabis

wendy k (220)
Wednesday August 13, 2014, 4:38 am
dont ask about puzzle, ,
Robin Williams , I will miss him, his sharp wit,- turbo speed brain , a sweet funny, sad man, Pagliacci, describes him, it makes me so sad, that he gave us laughter , through his tears, . His un- timely death, if nothing else, shows society, the need , urgent need for more understanding, of "mental health"/depression, issues -illness R.I.P, -Nanu Nanu xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

James Maynard (84)
Thursday August 14, 2014, 2:58 pm
So sad over the news of Robin Williams.
Such a brilliant wit!
Happy over my puzzle time at just six
seconds over average.
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