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Open Thread - 9/11/2017

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). If you would like me to send you cards with links to my articles, add me as a friend.

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Joanne D (38)
Monday September 11, 2017, 1:36 pm
5:39 Paradoxically, the phone ringing may have helped. It only took me a couple of seconds to look at the caller ID, and when I went back to the puzzle I was better focused.

MM - Surprise, surprise. Unfortunately, cretins believe that crap.

DKos - Actual national security problems: 1) Climate change (that's not me putting it at #1, it's the Dod). 2) Proliferation of nuclear weapons 3) Domestic terrorism. Dolt.45 - no, wait this is better: "The orange spill in aisle 1600" - is making all three worse instead of better.

AlterNet - I certainly never expected to say anything even close to this, but - "in February and March it will be a civil war inside the Republican party that will be every bit as vitriolic as 2013" - from Bannon's mouth to God's ear.

Cartoon - Mm-hmm.


Ted W (127)
Monday September 11, 2017, 2:15 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!! RESIST!! Thanks so much for sharing, TolmCat!!

Nita L (120)
Monday September 11, 2017, 2:49 pm
Thank you TC.

Pat B (356)
Monday September 11, 2017, 3:00 pm
MM: Most people come together to help and support their neighbor(s), and looting is the last thing on their minds, where in the 'sam hill' would these folks who did this kind of activity, put their looted stuff? Everything's flooded !!

DK: I support JD's well written comment. Ditto!

AN: He's a bottom feed eater. ugh!

Cartoon: Sad.

Best to you watching your game, hope it goes well. Get some rest, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

David C (129)
Monday September 11, 2017, 3:24 pm
thanks, I can't stand any Barfbreit says

Jim P (3257)
Monday September 11, 2017, 3:37 pm
Love Vicente Fox’s videos. New one in Joanne’s comment in PP. Maybe Vicente Fox should run for President of USA. lol.

Colleen L (3)
Monday September 11, 2017, 4:04 pm
I too like the video. Plus the cartoon . Thanks TomCat

Kathleen M (211)
Monday September 11, 2017, 4:29 pm
Thx for sharing TC!

JL A (281)
Monday September 11, 2017, 5:22 pm
90s here too, yet promises of a tad cooler at end of the week. Also a tiny chance of a little rain 11 pm or later or tomorrow to maybe improve air quality a tad.
FEMA did rumor control on fake reports of looting in Orlando that I saw yesterday.
Such a change in direction on nuclear weapons would be expected to make us less safe, according to the experts. Might be able to do more damage in foreign wars while increasing the odds of attacks on the US and US deaths.
Please, give us a gag me with a spoon warning whenever you have Bannon content.

Sheila D (28)
Monday September 11, 2017, 6:16 pm
4:38. It's possible the civil war Bannan is expecting is something he is working towards. After all, dt did kick him out of the WH, no matter how chummy they might seem now.
Thanks for the post, TomCat.
Hope the weather gets cooler soon.

Animae C (514)
Monday September 11, 2017, 6:31 pm
Thanx TC

Mitchell D (87)
Monday September 11, 2017, 6:47 pm
MM: Faux News, and its ilk, are not interested in reporting what happens, but in spreading hate, period.
DK: This is a scary reminder of Rumpy’s statement of last year, “If we have nuclear weapons, why can’t we use them?” Sadly, GOPigs never see the long picture of anything, they have live and breathed the quarterly report cycle, and how it impacts their bonuses.
Alternet: Sadly, our would-be Pharaoh provided this POS with some hint of celebrity.

Walter F (129)
Monday September 11, 2017, 7:44 pm
Tom thanks for the news .Stay well my friend,.Eric Paynter and his crew are still working on the problem that put me and many others out of action..

Katie & Bill D (107)
Monday September 11, 2017, 10:14 pm
I have had prob;ems getting on here for 5 days now and I am back. I had just clicked on Noted and it would lock up. it's slow now but working. Thank you TomCat

Lynn Squance (235)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 3:31 am
Puzzle — 4:46 I was locked out and could not find the correct key!

Media Matters — Some people will believe anything if it fits in with their own racist beliefs.  “I have to wonder how many people, if any, were murdered by racist Republican vigilantes, their hatred piqued by the Republican Reichsministry of Propaganda, Faux Noise.” — If anyone was killed, Faux Noise and any other right wing noise rag should be tried for murder as an accessory, IMO.

Daiy Kos — I could not agree more with Steven Andreasen and the Politico author.

“”If the U.S. moves now to develop a new nuclear weapon, it will send exactly the wrong signal at a time when international efforts to discourage the spread of nuclear weapons are under severe challenge,”…”If the world’s greatest conventional and nuclear military power decides it cannot defend itself without new nuclear weapons, we will undermine our ability to prevent other nations from developing or enhancing their own nuclear capabilities and we will further deepen the divisions between the U.S. and other responsible countries.”

Drumpf is trigger happy and nucking futs!!!

AlterNet — So Bannon thinks there will be a “civil war” within the Republican party come early 2018 when primaries are on the calendar.  Republicans are already a fractured bunch!  It seems to me that riding herd on that bunch is like trying to lasso a greased pig.  And if he thinks that Republicans are in danger of losing the 2018 midterms, I couldn’t be happier.  Oh please let it be so!

Cartoon — Really!  Perhaps the US government should take the lead from President Teddy Roosevelt who (from Wikipedia) described his style of foreign policy as “the exercise of intelligent forethought and of decisive action sufficiently far in advance of any likely crisis.”  However leave the imperialism at home.

Resist, Persist and Remove!!!

So it was hot there today, eh.  Here was a bit hot this afternoon but otherwise very pleasant and no rain.  We have a 30-40% chance of rain on Tuesday.  This week is busy so I might be a bit scarce, especially from Wednesday on.  Take care.

Lona G (80)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 6:21 am
MM: Strange how natural disasters like hurricanes Harvey and Irma bring out the best in most people but the worst in right-wing media outlets, who have to resort to fake news and their usual made-up racist drivel in order to hold their bigotry afloat.

DK: From Wikipedia:

The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, commonly known as the Non-Proliferation Treaty or NPT, is an international treaty whose objective is to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and weapons technology, to promote cooperation in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy, and to further the goal of achieving nuclear disarmament and general and complete disarmament

America has ratified this treaty which came into force in 1970 and which was extended indefinitely in 1995. Only four UN member states have never accepted the NPT, three of which are thought to possess nuclear weapons: India, Israel, and Pakistan. In addition, South Sudan, founded in 2011, has not joined.
North Korea originally acceded to the NPT in 1985, but withdrew in 2003. Will America now withdraw in 2017, or does the Drumpf administration think that because they’re only talking about “mini-nukes” that they can get away with it? America has the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons; it can’t make the argument it can’t defend itself, it can do so a thousand time over, by which time it doesn’t matter because the whole planet will be destroyed. Drumpf is about to start a whole new nuclear arms race, and may beat Global Warming to the destruction of this orb we all live on. Anything to get into the history books, right?

Alternet: For once I hope Steve Bannon is right: let’s all hope civil war has broken out within the GOP by January-February 2018, in time for the 2018 election. But after Drumpf’s impeachment, I dare say.

I hope you got to nap before meditating and you thoroughly enjoyed both, TomCat.

Freya H (357)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 6:51 am
I read in another place that police were shooting looters. Granted, the looters were breaking the law - but since when does theft merit the death penalty? Were the cops just lazy, or racist, or both?

Sometimes I get the impression that the Rethuglican Party is digging its own grave. Fine by me - except the Democreeps are no prize, either. The USA cannot thrive under a one-party system. Come to think of it, that is what we have now. Democreeps and Rethuglicans are not separate species, but subspecies of the same foul beastie. Another problem: The Goofy Oligarchical Plutocrats are digging this country's grave next to their own.

William C (0)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 7:17 am
Thank you.

Peggy B (43)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 8:05 am

W. C (7)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 8:31 am

Winnie A (179)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 10:51 am
Thanks TC

Vivian B (169)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 12:43 pm
Thank you, TC! Good to see the stars are working again!

TomCat S (128)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 1:53 pm
Thanks all. Freya, despite Democratic problems, the worst Democrats are infinitely better than the best Republicans.

Janis K (126)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 8:00 pm
Thanks for sharing.

Glennis W (398)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 8:58 pm
Take care Rest well Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Debra G (0)
Tuesday September 12, 2017, 9:56 pm
Woot! After 6 days, I can finally open your posts and leave comments again. While this C2 dry spell was unexpected and frustrating, I did manage to clean out a closet in the extra time.
Congrats to your Broncos. We won't speak of the Seahawks' game.

Winnie A (179)
Wednesday September 13, 2017, 6:53 am
Thanks TC

TomCat S (128)
Wednesday September 13, 2017, 12:02 pm
TYVM Hugs.

Sorry about your Sea Chickens, Deb. ;-)
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