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Bill Maher From 10/27


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TomCat
- 208 days ago - politicsplus.org
It's that time of week again, and I'm happy to share four fine video clips from Bill's show last night. Enjoy!!



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Peggy B (43)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 2:02 pm
Thanks for the reminder.
 

Pat B (356)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 2:17 pm
Thanks for Bill.
Really enjoyed seeing Joy B, and Woody.

 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 2:35 pm
Bill - There are two schools of thoughts on Daddy Bush. I am firmly in the school of thought that this behavior (twice that I heard - oh, three times now?) is dementia-related. I think he had impulse control once. Now he doesn't. Of course, having been married for 33 years (and counting) to a man with head injuries, I may have a different view of how impulse control interacts with other brain functions than most people.

Joy - Is F. Scott Fitzgerald spinning in his grave yet? Well - I think we can become more effective, but I absolutely do not believe becoming ugly is the answer. I think we need to become less expository and more narrative. Or, translated, we need to communicate by telling stories. Seriously. (Parenthetically, I think I can explain why sexual assaulters are all married. Guys who will screw any female thing that breathes inevitably run up against a person, or a circumstance, that pushes them into a marriage. Usually this happens more than once. Then, regardless how good or bad the sex is at home, they simply move on.)

LBJ - Yes, he was a complicated man. I came to him via his Great Society. Then I learned more and more how difficult it was to take those principled stands. Now I am facing his flaws. I could have forgiven him easily for being wrong. Forgiving him for knowing better and keeoing on anyway is MUCH harder. Needy - yes. If one watches Ken Burns "The Vietnam War", one can hear and feel that every time there is a tape of him on the phone. But Johnson was "down home," not just vulgar. Going back to the Burns movie, it's brought out that at one point, meeting with Vietnamese leaders, he talked about wanting results by using the phrase "possum hides on the wall," I think it was. Some of them are STILL wondering what he meant, I think.

New Rules - Yes. The people griping about the Constitution are also the ones who understand it the least. And hats - remember Bella Abzug? I don't remember anyone giving her this kind of grief over hats. Rep. Wilson is psying tribute to her grandmother with hers. "It stars with goose bumps, but it ends with goose steps." What a great line!

RESIST AND PERSIST !!
 

David C (131)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 2:39 pm
Resist! Stand strong and together. Persist
 

pam w (139)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 2:48 pm
I like Joy & Bill together.
 

Ted W (127)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 3:18 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!!RESIST!!Bill Rocks!!! Thanks for sharing, TomCat!
 

Trish K (30)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 3:53 pm
Bill - If G.H. wanted to play David Cop a feel with me I would love to play. He’s 93, he is good natured, time to lighten up. It would be another chapter in the book of 'My Life' if I let a President get away with a good joke when the cameras are rolling, microphones on and he made me laugh too.
Joy - Shagg O’Rilley for 32 Million ? - Neither would I.
Can hardly wait to see Woody as LBJ. Wish LBJ would come back. He didn’t start Vietnam he inherited it.
-I love Bella Abzug and her hats. New Rules - When the Koch suckers dish it out we should dish it right back at them. It is not the time to rise - if it means kneeling lets start cutting at the ankles. Down and dirty.
 

Mitchell D (87)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 3:54 pm
Bad Boy: Watershed year? I hope so, because if this does not do it, what will it take…tRump and Kim-Il battling it out in public with dueling dicks?
Beyhar: Mark Halperin and frotteurism at ABC?
Harrelson: The 2 sides of LBJ.
Fetish Patriotism: “It starts with goos bumps, but it ends with goose steps.” So well put! I used to get videos of armed forces things from a very conservative not-quite-cousin, until I once asked him about his time in the service…which he never had.
 

Walter F (128)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 4:26 pm
Thanks Tom I'll view them later when I have more time .Maher doesn;t appear on our TVs here..They're well worth a look.
 

Kathleen M (224)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 5:51 pm
Noted. Goose bumps to goose steps? Brilliant! Thx TC.
 

Glennis W (403)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 6:47 pm
Bill Maher you are awesome, Just love your videos. Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat
 

Colleen L (3)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 8:05 pm
I loved watching the show. Thanks TomCat
 

Animae C (515)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 2:54 am
Brilliant dose of Bill, as usual!!!
First time i see & hear Joy Behar, OMG what a gal, i like her! Wanna read her book!

i needed all those educational laughs!!!!
Thanx TC
 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 3:49 am
Great selection!

But thinking of the last clip: can anyone explain why kneeling is a respectful position everywhere except on the football field?

One kneels in church
One kneels to receive honours from the Queen
Kneeling when asking a girl to marry one is definitely "good"

So - why is it "disrespectful" when done as a protest gesture?
I could understand objections if they chose to show their rear ends ... THAT would be disrespectful.

But they go on one knee ...

Seems to me that in this case, any disrespect is in the eye of the beholder, not the kneeler
 

Gene J (290)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 8:15 am
I saw a couple of these at another place yesterday, he's on too late for me, and to be honest I watch virtually no television these days. I love Bill, he can be a bit full of himself, but who in his position isn't, or can't? I appreciated Joy taking him to task on the only married guys are abusive. Because that's simply not true. This is a male behavioral problem that has existed as long as our species. Males have always been the bigger and stronger and took what they wanted, whether that be someone else's land or any woman they felt like. But we, along the way, became sentient. We're the only animals capable of self reflection and that this is SO prevalent as the #metoo campaign on Twitter proved - almost every woman has a story like those being told of Weinstein, Halperin and Trump. I have talked to some young women, 20's, who tell me this happens to them on a virtual daily basis in their workplace - in elevators. The cop a feel may seem amusing in a 93 year old prick but it isn't in an elevator on your way to work. Nor later when that guy emails asking if you want to go to lunch and "jokingly" refers to the the "playful" behavior.

I'm sorry, I had NO idea how pervasive this is. I truly didn't. I mean I knew men of power do such things, I remember the rumors of JFK, who I truly admired. I know this has ALWAYS been the lot of women. I just had no idea it was the experience of way more than half of the female gender. It has never been simply about biology, though that has a role, it has always been about power. The stories I've been told personally and have read are horrific. How can anyone live like that, BE like that in this day and age? It's as if men have been given a free pass to be pigs since our species evolved. Now that this IS in the public eye, is it fear that is needed to prevent men from being asses? Why is that necessary? How do we change the dynamic so that the idea is unthinkable.?

I think boys, and girls, need be taught from the earliest ages possible what is good touch and what is not. I know we do some of that now. It is not enough. It is not nearly enough. I've defined civilization, for a long time as a place where no one will have anything that comes at a cost to another. This is that. Taking advantage of size, strength or status to force any other person to do something, or allow something, against their will is wrong and has to become unthinkable. When we reach THAT level of sentience, of spirituality THEN we are a civilization. Right now men are being FORCED to behave themselves, that's not civilization, that's coercion. That's not nearly good enough. Calling them out EVERY time is just a beginning not the end. The very idea, the thought, must be so abhorrent as to be unthinkable, then we are civilized.

So, excusing H.W. because he's 93, well, that's just not right. It isn't. On to LBJ, I've not seen the movie. Don't know that I will. I do have strong feelings about this man. And maybe a different perspective. Start with Vietnam. That country dominated my high school years, I was a poor farm kid, I knew what my future was, so the goal was to live to adulthood. I was in high school from 9/63 to 6/67, it wasn't our only topic, but it loomed over everything we thought about, talked about in terms of what came next in our lives. I'm a bit of a dichotomy in that I enlisted (I knew a draft was coming) to avoid Vietnam (you got to choose your own job, I chose CLERK - unwisely as it turns out every infantry company has a company clerk) and then volunteered to go for my last year in service - but that was a calculated risk that turned out well. I was still too young to understand the politics of the situation. I never considered any other option, my whole family (immigrants all, 2nd gen on dad's side, 4th on mom's, 100% Swedish ancestry - an aside you can't get back into that country to save your life these days, I checked) had served in WWII, one of the things my friends and I talked about when we were baked, well, drunk then, baked came after Vietnam for us, too young, was how we were free to be out in the middle of nowhere doing what we were doing because of the good fortune we had in being born in THIS country and that kids our age in other countries had NO such freedom. I felt an obligation, a sense of duty, to this nation for that freedom. That's why I didn't consider any option but to serve. But here's the thing. John Kennedy was a brilliant man, he had advisers in Vietnam, I do NOT believe that would have escalated into what it did if he had lived. I don't believe he would have done what LBJ did in faking that whole Gulf of Tonkin incident to allow him to build the level of troops there to the point that we HAD to have a draft (I had been in service 18 months when the first one was held, my birthday came up number 6) to sustain the 500,000 plus soldiers we had there. I was fortunate, when I went to clerical school, it was self-paced, three weeks, to learn to type really, but I already knew how, from a class in high school, so finished it in a day and a half - second one done, the first ten of us to finish got sent to Finance school at Fort Benjamin Harrison, IN, where we were trained to become finance clerks. There were 200 of us, after graduation 190 got sent straight to Vietnam, I along with 4 others, got sent to Oakland Army Base, a way station for guys going to and coming back from Vietnam. If you had less than 90 days left (they had to give you 30 days leave coming back from overseas assignments) they just let you out. That was September 1968, January 1969 the other 4 got orders for Vietnam, I got sent to Germany, which was full when I got there, so got sent to Venice, which was also full, so got sent to Camp Darby on the Italian Riviera, between Livorno and Pisa. While I was there, the army changed its policy so that if you had 5 months or less left coming back from Vietnam they let you out. Knowing what I did about how that process worked, and gambling that I'd be mostly on a base somewhere, I timed my request and volunteered to go - I got out 147 days early. :^). Which meant I could start college (GI Bill) January 1970 rather than September. It worked out. While there, I was growing up - I was the youngest in my class always, graduated at 17, immature, party guy, a thinker but oh so superficially, teens you know? But I grew up while in service and was virulently antiwar by the time I was discharged.

The thing is, Kennedy was smart and willing to engage the Soviets or Chinese anywhere, but I don't believe he would have done what LBJ did. I could be wrong, but that's my judgment, I think his evolution as a man and president would have caused him to decide that was an unwise effort, which it was. Bobby Kennedy, whom I still admire, defined moral courage in his 1967 book as the strength to speak truth to power. I think John would have come to the same conclusion, they were very close, they were growing together. LBJ was on the outside looking in during the JFK years. I do not deny that he did some great things, passed some great legislation, but the Great Society was a monstrous mistake. It was well intentioned but it destroyed the black nuclear family - which has not yet recovered. It was a white privilege piece of legislation, though not thought of in that way. I spent a career in social services and saw this play out, still is playing out. The rule was you could only have two parents in the household if one of them was actively enrolled in school OR actively seeking work, for white's this was not a challenge. A single custodian could get a four year degree on AFDC, with food stamps, medical care and housing assistance - they were educationally prepared for that. For African Americans it was, we already had generational poverty, though that demographic until then had marriage rates similar to whites, but their men could NOT find work, nor were they prepared for college, they had barriers that whites still don't have and they still do. There were welfare fraud investigator's who went out and looked for evidence of men in the household, clothing, shoes under the bed. It drove the men out of the black nuclear family or turned them into liars. So we then had generations of young black males growing up without father figures, turning to the streets for male companionship and we all know how that turned out. We're living it today - in Chicago, New York, LA, everywhere - gangs are the father figures for young black males who now have the highest incarceration rate of any group in American history. It was a great idea implemented horribly. It has not been fixed nor really even addressed. The Clinton "reforms" limited the number of years one can receive welfare but did nothing about the other barriers, in fact created some new ones as you can no longer get a four year degree, and educational program has to be two years or less. Making the educational barrier worse, not better. This is LBJ's legacy as much as the great things he did. I don't know that the scales balance. I just don't. I'm sorry, Nixon was far worse, yes, but LBJ, well, it was right he not run again in 1968, though Hubert Humphrey as his vice-president he who believed "...The moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the aged; and those in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped." was himself so handicapped by LBJ's legacy that he lost to Nixon and we know what that brought on. Hubert was a liberal's liberal, but so tainted by his association with Johnson that the nation was robbed of a man who would have been a great president. In my opinion.

As for Trump. Well, he's about to become part of history. But I have this clip of him I'd like to share. This is Donald Trump, it his moral core, the essence of the man. It is not pretty. It's 1:25 so not long, but it is exactly who he has been all his life, how he has governed, who he is now. I hope the html works, but I'll put it in twice in case, Care2 strips it out, just take the blanks out, except the one between " target, or search youtube for Charlie Rose and Donald Trump. Donald Trump on himself Do nald Tr ump on hims elf

He's a terrible person and always has been, he's a sexual predator who should be in jail. And one last thing on that, I'd like to see a law passed that prohibits "settlements" that demand silence and preclude prosecution because of that silence. I mean, Bill mentioned this, but I was wondering about it when I first heard about it, just what do you have to DO for it to be worth $32 MILLION dollars to be kept quiet? What on earth could he have done to that poor woman? He could have gone to a profession for a few hundred dollars (not that they aren't victims too) but instead did something that cost $32 MILLION dollars to keep him out of jail. That should NOT be allowed. No get out of jail free cards if you have enough money - that's not how a free society should work. It just isn't.

Sorry, I got on the soap box, just annoyed by the world around me these days. Very annoyed, I guess. :^)
 

Lona G (80)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 8:16 am
It’s Sunday afternoon here, the perfect time to enjoy some time with Bill Maher. Thanks for posting, TomCat.
 

TomCat S (129)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 12:55 pm
Thanks all. Hugs! Stars!

Kudos to those with soap boxes.
 

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 1:17 pm
Noted, Thanks
 

Janis K (126)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 1:24 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Patrice Z (16)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 5:53 pm
Thanks for sharing!
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 7:20 pm
Thanks
 

Katie & Bill D (107)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 7:49 pm
Oh always look forward to Bill Maher, We all need this Humor!
RESIST PERSIST DEFEND REMOVE
thank you TomCat
 

Winn A (179)
Monday October 30, 2017, 6:44 am
Thanks
 

Patricia N (9)
Monday October 30, 2017, 9:06 am
Watched it on Friday. Yes, new view of LBJ after Vietnam by Burns......but nothing like Trump and he did a lot of good things for the U.S.A. Too bad he had Vietnam to deal with. I relived a portion of my past watching Vietnam as lived in the States at that time and watched LBJ on TV saying he wouldn't run again. Would love to see Bill and Joy do a weekly show together too but I think Bill has too much ego to share a whole segment or weekly show (just my opinion and I could be wrong).
 

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Monday October 30, 2017, 11:35 am
Noted, Thank you
 

TomCat S (129)
Monday October 30, 2017, 12:34 pm
TYVM!
 

Nita L (120)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 8:12 pm
.Thank you for sharing Bill with us TomCat.
 
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