Tuesday June 30, 2009, 10:41 am
wow... looks really nice... hmmm...

Tuesday June 30, 2009, 11:44 am
How do i get in? lol that cell and environment was nicer than my first few apartments!

Tuesday June 30, 2009, 1:09 pm
Just wondering, what's there on the menu?

Tuesday June 30, 2009, 7:00 pm
Wow. I bet they do the crime so they can do the time. LoL. Who wouldn't in a jail like this. Thanks Tere.

Tuesday June 30, 2009, 7:10 pm
Linda carcel, pero aun asi, prefiero mi LIBERTAD que nada ni nadie puede comprar.
Beautiful jail, but even like that, I prefer FREEDOM which nothing or anybody can buy!
Noted with many thanks Dearest Teresa.
Love,
Black Dalia:)

Tuesday June 30, 2009, 9:20 pm
Thx Tere-very interesting-Noted.

Wednesday July 1, 2009, 12:34 pm
What a nice place for punishment, interesting, thanks Tere

Wednesday July 1, 2009, 10:24 pm
Yes....I wonder what a jail like this would do in Mexico!!! haahahahaha

Maybe we would have the double of the crime that we have now, just to have a vacation in that place!

This work for them but I have strong doubts that this can work in most countries.

Thursday July 2, 2009, 2:29 pm
Jails reflect the level of civilization that a society has achieved. The jale presented here shows that the Austrian people have reached a high degree of development that is reflected by their respect for human rights. If their jails look like that, imagine what their country must be like!

Thursday July 2, 2009, 2:45 pm
Human Rights; Ya RIGHT.. Ask the Aboriganies;
or the Peole that Get SHOT at For Going To Close To The Huge underground USA military Base there..
USA Has had Jail/Countryclubs For Decades..
They are called Minimum Security Federal Prisons (for Whitecollar Criminals and Corrupt politicians.

Thursday July 2, 2009, 2:54 pm
and Since my earlier Post was removed For ? reason I will make a Shorter Warning with less infoas I didn't save my Full page info;

THE VISIT SITE LINK CAUSED MY COMPUTER SECURITY SYSTEM TO BLOCK AN ATTACK; I think Only IE 6 is suseptable to this type of attack; But unless you have a Trustworthy Protective system;
Proceed with caution...

Thursday July 2, 2009, 3:53 pm
Christoph, I have been in Austria, it´s a beautiful country. One of the most racist countries in the world but with low crime rates.

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Thursday July 2, 2009, 11:27 pm
Christoph ... danke fuer die netten Worte ueber mein geliebtes Heimatland!

Tere ... I was born, raised and educated in Vienna, extremely proud of my heritage and wouldn't change it for the world! As for 'one of the most racist countries in the world" I do take offense . Are you aware of the multitude of nationalities that have sought refuge and now live in my country, totally integrated? And if we were so racist, how come that the late Simon Wiesenthal chose - of all places - Vienna as his permanent residence? I am sorry but feel that your impression of Austria is unfortunate and without merit.

Thursday July 2, 2009, 11:37 pm
I think that it's a Problem that Triggers Older systems;

and My Mistake Earlier; My old Eyes Saw Austrailia;
it is Austrailia That Misstreats thier Native population and has the USA underground Base that Shoots at People coming to Close..
Not Austria (as far as I Know)
Please Forgive My Mistake Heide..

Friday July 3, 2009, 12:57 am
Sherbet looks better than th eHilton... when can we book in?

Friday July 3, 2009, 4:45 am
Take time to notice the beautyful wiev ....and the bars in front of it - It is stil a jail !!!! why am I proud of having lived in Austria for 11 years ? becourse this is a good examble for the rest of the world to see that even in jail , you have to show respect for people .... and believe me, the costs for this jail is lower than in Alcatraz !!!!!!

Friday July 3, 2009, 5:41 am
Well I for one would have no issue with the writer spending 30 years or so in such a "5 star hotel" and they posting her wonderful experience as a learning tool for all.

Desire for Freedom has little to do with the facility when you loose it, you may be served sauerbraten verses a burrito and you new "lover" may not be exactly what your dreams visioned, but I guess for some the value of the facade outweighs the value of all else.

I do have to admit a postcard from that prison would be much different than one from a dirt floor chicken wire jail in Mexico or Columbia.

Friday July 3, 2009, 9:15 am
Teresa said "One of the most racist countries in the world but with low crime rates."
My aunt is from Austria married to a Jamacan man. They live there and have not had any racist issues, certainly no more than anywhere else.
What an awful statement against a whole group of people. I'm shocked and saddened at the same time.

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:08 pm
Islas Marías, a Prison That Has Contributed to Conservation
MEXICO

http://www.care2.com/news/member/531904814/1184519

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:17 pm
Note:

For leaving a little thing clear, I liked Austria a lot, but I can´t forget that Adolf Hittler was born there and that´s why i say that Austria is considered one of the most racist countries of the world. I am not talking about the people of Austria in present days.

But of course it has it issues to be corrected, like other countries.

State racism in Austria
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/sep2000/aust-s16.shtml

Racism and the Austrian Media
http://blog.z-word.com/2008/12/racism-and-the-austrian-media/

The Dangerous Odds Against Black Africans In Austria
http://no-racism.net/article/1451/

Not Just Racism
Bernd Baumgartl

Since 3 October 1999, and especially since early February 2000 and the formation of the government coalition between the Christian Democrats (ÖVP) and the Freedom Party (FPÖ), Austrians with international contacts have had a new duty: explaining why the nationalist and xenophobic FPÖ could possibly attract more than a quarter of the Austrian electorate.
http://www.ce-review.org/00/22/baumgartl22.html

Show tests stereotypes about racism in Austria
Contestants show prejudice against Turks

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4244477/


Amnesty: Austria ignores racism
2009-04-09 21:52

Vienna - Austria's police and criminal justice system turn a blind eye to the institutional racism which plagues them and its politicians are no better, human rights body Amnesty International said on Thursday.

Austrian authorities are guilty of racial profiling, in particular assuming people from ethnic minorities are the perpetrators rather than the victims of crime, Amnesty said.
http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/90c3b929ca6f4d9ba79f889b11d2a571//Amnesty_Austria_ignores_racism

Austria: Police attack on US man brings up racism
By VERONIKA OLEKSYN – Jun 21, 2009

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gL_IVSujKj9v8GeMRlTruB_0OOUAD98V806G0

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:19 pm
AUSTRIA: Racism on a Sharp Rise
By Pavol Stracansky

VIENNA, Jul 1 (IPS) - Mainstream political parties in Austria must change their approach if a growing anti-immigrant sentiment stoked by far-right politicians is to be curbed, racism watchdogs and political analysts say.

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47483

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:20 pm
I just wish Austria doesn´t put these criminals in places soooo comfortable, they don´t deserve living like kings when the racists are just TRASH.

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:27 pm
Austrian drug dealers. A large number of Austrians seem to believe that (i) most drug dealers are black or (ii) most blacks are drug dealers. Because that's what media reports on drug crime have repeatedly suggested over the last few years. Austrians reveal this belief by apparently innocent statements such as "Not all drug dealers are black" or "Not all blacks are drug dealers", which in both cases implies that almost all of them are.

http://www.uni-graz.at/~parncutt/racisminaustria.HTM

Friday July 3, 2009, 2:28 pm
:)

Friday July 3, 2009, 4:19 pm
While All that May be true; Posting a Smirk afterwords Does Nothing To help ANY Cause..
it is Also True of almost any country in the world;
My understanding is that Even Mexico has Class distinctions Between the "Spanish Elete" and the Peasants That have indeterminate Native American/or Central American Blood mixed With thier "Spanish Blood"; With Worse Oppression Targeting Local Tribes in Mexico and Other Central/S American countries;
Not to be Excusing My own Country; the USA Still Mistreats it Native Populations,AfroAmericans Are still not Totaly Equal;
as Well as The New anti Muslim Bigotry; Being Fostered By War Propoganda.
So We Should All Look at our own Country's Honestly..
before We Call Someone else's;
"One of the most racist countries in the world but with low crime rates."

Friday July 3, 2009, 5:29 pm
Heide, don´t take me wrong, I just think in the recent murder in the museum in NY, the killer was from Germany/Austrian family and I think if the crime was commited in Austria and not in NY he will be in the Hilton Jail for a racial killing for example???

James W. von Brunn News - The New York Times11 Jun 2009 ... James W. von Brunn is the 88-year-old white supremist who opened fire with a rifle at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in June 2009, ... this way: "The von Brunn/Wenneker families migrated from Germany/Austria c. ... An 88-year-old white supremacist is suspected of opening fire in the

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/v/james_w_von_brunn/index.html

Friday July 3, 2009, 6:20 pm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/03/cstillwell.DTL

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2081.shtml

Nice stamp!!! Eh?

http://www.hispanicvista.com/HVC/Columnist/erobles/041105robles.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/11/weekinreview/the-world-racism-mexico-s-in-denial.html

Need I go on???

Friday July 3, 2009, 10:31 pm
You point your finger as you tell another not to point theirs? Interesting, in an unfair kind of way.

Saturday July 4, 2009, 12:36 pm
Baby:

My personal comments in this note are about HITTLER and James W. von Brunn, interesting......yes.

Saturday July 4, 2009, 5:44 pm
anyone ever here of "Think Globaly Act Localy;"
OR Look first to Your Own backyard before You Condemn Your Neighbours Weeds;

I am the First to Acknowledge That The USA is the Worst Criminal in the World;
But When I see Our Neighbours With MANY Problems in thier Own Country; Pointing thier Spoiled UpperCLass Fingers Across the Globe; Judging Others and Trying to Force thier redickulous Nanny Lifestyle Agendas on ALL of US...
YES I WILL POINT BACK..
Denial is The Most Powerfull Supporting Force FOR EVIL TO CONINUE UNCHECKED.
AND Count the Many Links it was Not Just About Some Murdering Racist Nutbag AND Hitler (a Much Greater NUTBAG) Who Never Would have Flourished With out an Wealthy international backing...

Nationalism Can Become Jingoism and RACISM, Easily; When Those With Guilt of thier own; Live In Denial and Project Onto Distant ScapeGoats...

Saturday July 4, 2009, 11:45 pm
Tere, I judge you to be much too nice and intelligent to offer such a lame axcuse! You cannot throw an 8 million population into the same pot becauswe of a few bad apples!

I have had the good fortune to travel on several occasions with my family to your wonderful country, the kindness of the Mexican people extended to us, the music, the artesania and, of course, the natural beauty of Mexico will always have a special place in our hearts. Now, would it be nice or correct to make a statement that all of the people from down South of the borders are either drug dealers, gang members or illegal immigrants? I don't think so and neither is it proper to generilze about any other nation.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 5:04 am
Thursday July 2, 2009, 3:53 pm
Christoph, I have been in Austria, it´s a beautiful country. One of the most racist countries in the world but with low crime rates....Teresa

Teresa, no mention of Hitler, von Brunn or anyone else in your post, just a general statement against Austria as a whole. You didn't mention those people until you were called on it and then you twisted what you said. I think everyone saw that. You should have just said you made a mistake by making such a statement...instead of putting up all your links to prove what you said was true. That doesn't look like you were only talking about Hitler or von Brunn..does it?
We all make mistakes and sometimes say things we shouldn't.
You are right Darren, I did point my finger. People in glass houses, as the saying goes.
As far as the jail in Austria...yes it is beautiful and I WOULD NOT want to be there.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 1:38 pm
La Luna, but the jails in Mexico are much worse, so the point is clear. Also, I am white (with a year round tan) and nobody messes with me for being white.

As for what Tere said, I know for a fact that when she said it, she was focusing on the fact that Hitler was born there. She meant no disrespect to the decent people of Austria.

Your are right, La Luna... we have all made mistakes, just like when you had the picture of a slum on your profile page and wrote that "Some people in Mexico call this home sweet home.", or however you said it.

To me, that jail is a waste of money.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 2:32 pm
Yes Heide the bad apples are in the rise and the good people of Austria are not guilty of that.

AUSTRIA: Racism on a Sharp Rise
By Pavol Stracansky

VIENNA, Jul 1 (IPS) - Mainstream political parties in Austria must change their approach if a growing anti-immigrant sentiment stoked by far-right politicians is to be curbed, racism watchdogs and political analysts say.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47483

no mistakes in my words, Austria has to be more tough with racism that is notorius in the authorites and put these people in jail instead of being supported by political parties. But in a normal jail, for them to understand how terrible is that. RACIST TO JAIL.

And about Mexico(completely off topic but ok... just because you are nice Heide I´ll comment a short thing): The drug dealers bosses are in the North side of the border, sending weapons and millions of dollars and we are tired and our authorities are fighting against them, at least we are doing something about it. It would be great that Austria could do something about racism, fight the haters with guns, like we do here in Mexico with the drug dealers even our economy and our name is trashed, we are having a WAR against drugs, we are doing a good thing. I wish to see that Austria could do the same against racists even it can be bloody.

Yes, the crafts....and the "Penacho de Moctezuma".............

Stolen and exposed in Austria.

Penacho de Moctezuma or Moctezuma's Headress
http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/bevans/art446-12-aztec/WebPage-Info.00067.html

It´s shocking Heide, if you understand me, knowing that there are some criminals and racists that belong to jail there and they are not.

I don´t know why Mexico came to the subject....but some ignorants have to understand that this site is full of news of other countries posted by Americans and it´s ok if they post a bad thing about the rest of the world, but if a person of other country comes and post something....(((WOW)))....the nationality of the poster is then the subject and that´s very off topic, we have the same right to post a news from the country we decide without being US the subject.

If we post about the Congo we expect to talk about the CONGO, if you know what I mean.

For example,Heide, the other day I went to the profile of one member that is a complete troll and saw a very poor house of Mexico in that person´s profile billboard and that person wrote:

To some MEXICANS, this is "Home Sweet Home".

Wow!!! lol, you know, in the billboard page were we post our cats, a poem, angels, help the poor, etc....this member posted that!!! shocking, yes?

Of course I complain and someone gave this bad member the advise to change it to:

To some, this is "Home Sweet Home"

the person removed "Mexicans"only. But the hate is still there with the same pic as a trophie. Poor person really! that member is twisted.


Imagine that Heide! and nothing I can do...it´s that member´s opinion and that person can post that. Imagine Heide....so what is so wrong with my comments here......nothing.........there are some people, not as nice as you are and educated that MAKE BIG MISTAKES and they are proud of their racism.

Honestly Heide, Austria should end with these extremists and put them inside a jail. But a real one, not this one that looks like the Club Med.

Imagine if I mix the most terrible jail in the world here in this topic (Guantanamo).............and what they do with people there.........just to defend Mexican jails agains the nationality of my attackers (lol). I am not doing it because it is OFF TOPIC, I am just giving a little advise: It´s better not to point fingers because in this case the attackers will lose big time.

Have a nice day Heide and I like a lot Austria, if I offended you in anyway, I am very sorry and I hope you continue liking Mexican Music.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 2:34 pm
ooopssss Darren you posted about the pic....I hope now that person canm remove more than ((((MEXICANS)))) now and apologize with a whole country. MEXICO.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 2:36 pm
Typo:

I meant

I hope now that person can remove more than ((((MEXICANS)))) now and apologize with a whole country. MEXICO.

But hurry up.... because some people can still see it in this moment......you have 5 minutes more or less to do it.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 8:01 pm
Teresa, I will not take down that picture! Had you bothered to look above the picture is the Wola banner, the reason behind the picture. Wola: Promoting Human Rights, Democracy and Social Justice. That picture is from their site! And it was from Mexico! If you should bother to look at the site...click on Mexico and see what comes up. And I changed the wording after a NM from one of your friends because they brought to my attention that poverty was world wide so for the sake of arugment and the fact they are right, it is, I re-worded it, about 2 weeks ago, I am not ashamed to admit a mistake. I did however explain that I have seen the poverty first hand in Mexico so I used what I knew. I will not for you or anyone else take down that picture of what some have to suffer. I support Wola and their work! I support HUMAN RIGHTS!!
http://www.wola.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=217&Itemid=36

Darren, it's very nice that you are a mind reader and know exactly what Teresa was thinking when she posted.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:02 pm
By the way, you quoted me wrong. It said...To some in Mexico this is Home Sweet Home.
This is the second time you have called me a racist. Last time because you said I didn't like Spanish and that I should change my name here on care2. This news story was not about racism..you brought that up, just as you brought up Mexico.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:05 pm
La Luna, it's not that I'm a mind reader, it's that I live with Tere and sometimes she'd been so fed up with little slight of hand tactics that had dug against Mexico, that she had told me what she was writing. So, thanks that you approve of me mind reading, though it's more of a vibe/tone/facial expression thing, but nonetheless, thanks for noticing. lol

The odd thing about that picture, was there was nothing on it about helping Mexicans. It's not even a linked image. And the banner above it, regardless of when it was added, is a broken link banner. So, a person can only go "hmmmmmm..." and ponder. Regardless... if you're for human rights, even of Mexicans, it would be great to see you posting some helpful things that people can participate in, that help underprivileged Mexicans. I mean, since you do that sort of thing, it would be nice to see. Instead of the bad things, good things.

¿Entiende usted?

Gracias.

¡Hasta luego!

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:15 pm
La Luna, I couldn't seem to find where tere called you a racist. ??? Could you please reference that?

Thank you.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:15 pm
dang typos. Tere, not tere.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:17 pm
And Austria????

This topic was about Austria!

Austrias justice minister: don't punish him too hard | Austria Newsaustria parliament Austrias justice minister Maria Berger is against a hard punishment for Josef Fritzl. “15 years are enough. 20 years the maximum”, ...

Case of rape:

Austrias justice minister Maria Berger is against a hard punishment for Josef Fritzl.

“15 years are enough. 20 years the maximum”, she says.

http://www.austrianews.co.uk/2008/05/02/austrias-justice-minister-dont-punish-him-too-hard/

I wonder if he is in the Hilton Jail "paying what he did"

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:25 pm
Culture of secrecy that allowed Austria to look the other way over Josef Fritzl

The fact that the press and public are banned from hearing any of the evidence in Josef Fritzl's trial says a lot about Austria, reports Gordon Rayner.

In a small provincial courtroom in Lower Austria, the most high-profile trial in the country's post-war history is taking place behind closed doors.

Members of the public, not to mention the world's media, have been banned from hearing any of the evidence against Josef Fritzl because of Austria's obsession with privacy. After brief opening arguments from the prosecution and defence on Monday, and a tantalisingly short statement from Fritzl himself, everyone bar the defendant, judges and lawyers was ordered to leave the room

We journalists have been warned that if we report anything which is said in the trial from now on (by getting it second-hand from lawyers, for example), we will be imprisoned for up to six years. So much for justice being seen to be done.

While it may seem incredible to anyone used to the British justice system that a man who imprisoned his own daughter in a cellar for 24 years should be tried in an empty room, in Austrian courts secrecy is the rule, rather than the exception. Officially, the media ban is to prevent "voyeurism". The consensus in the Austrian press, however, is that the authorities simply don't want the horrific evidence to be used to question their failure to stop Fritzl sooner.

It is this culture of secrecy that enabled Fritzl to get away with his crimes for so long – a culture which has its roots in Nazi-era Austria, and one that is viewed with growing shame by a younger generation of Austrians, some of whom have staged noisy demonstrations outside the court in St Poelten.

One of the protesters, Peter Rosenauer, of the child welfare group Resistance for Peace, told me: "We have a society where child abuse is hushed up and trivialised. People who report cases of abuse are often ignored or even intimidated by the authorities. The golden rule, which starts with bureaucrats and filters down through society, is that you shouldn't pry into people's private lives."

It was this very attitude that enabled Fritzl to hide his daughter away for a quarter of a decade while those in authority failed to ask the obvious questions which could have saved her.

Elisabeth ran away from home on several occasions as a teenager, only to be returned by police to her father each time. What was making her so unhappy? No one bothered to ask her. None of their business.

When three of Elisabeth's children turned up on Fritzl's doorstep, supposedly left by Elisabeth after she ran off to join a cult, social workers visited him 21 times to make sure he was fit to adopt the children. Josef Leitner, a former tenant in Fritzl's house, said: "Why didn't the authorities try to find out why Elisabeth wanted to run away? If they'd asked her friends, I'm sure they would have told them." Mr Leitner says that after raising questions about those in authority he was visited by the police, who threatened to report him to the state prosecutor in what he says was a blatant attempt to "shut me up".

Fritzl's may be an extreme case, but it is by no means unique in Austria. Natascha Kampusch escaped her captor in 2006 after eight years in a bunker; three children were rescued from a cellar in Linz in 2007 after being locked up for seven years by their mother.

Austria's preoccupation with privacy is a throwback to the Nazi era, when Hitler was enthusiastically welcomed into towns like Amstetten, where a young Josef Fritzl sat on his father's shoulders and cheered the Fuhrer. Collaborators were encouraged to inform on neighbours who did not embrace the Nazi agenda, who were then taken away to a nearby concentration camp. After the war, Austria was desperate to hush up its complicity in the Holocaust: three out of every four death camp commandants was Austrian. Hence the instinct, which exists to this day, to cover up the unsavoury and discourage the sort of curtain-twitching that was rife during the war.

Such a culture has led to farcical scenes at Fritzl's trial, where judges were so nervous of breaching the defendant's right to privacy that they did nothing to stop him covering his face with an A4 ring binder when the media were briefly allowed to film him. Austrian newspapers are only allowed to refer to the defendant as Josef F, which is standard procedure in sex abuse trials but pointless pedantry in a case where the entire world knows the defendant's name.

Back in Amstetten, the mayor and senior civil servants have all gone on holiday for the duration of the trial, seemingly to avoid any awkward questions. Before they left, the council put out a statement saying: "The crime case of Amstetten does not exist. It is the crime of a single person."

Josef Haslinger, an Austrian philosopher, said: "There is this pretty, shiny surface that Austrians like to show, but it hides a monstrosity… this perverse world that nobody wants to talk about. The de-Nazification process never succeeded. We have a culture of looking away."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/5008054/Culture-of-secrecy-that-allowed-Austria-to-look-the-other-way-over-Josef-Fritzl.html

Sunday July 5, 2009, 9:39 pm
Innocent US Citizen Attacked By Austrian Police - No Apology Offered

June 22nd, 2009

News from Austria via AP today reveals the unfortunate story of an American teacher named Mike Brennan. Apparently Brennan was beaten, after getting off the subway in Vienna by Austrian police who thought he was a drug dealer.

http://www.pamil-visions.net/racism-in-austria/22341/

I hope these policemen are in a normal jail too and not the Ritz *sigh*

A European Problem
A study by the Vienna based EU Fundamental Rights Agency revealed that over 50 percent of minorities and immigrants believe that Austria has a widespread problem with discrimination. This particular survey asked over 20,000 people across the EU about discrimination. It revealed that Gypsies and Africans apparently suffer the most abuse, and that these groups have little confidence in government’s ability to stop discrimination.

As for Brennan, he said officials apologized for the “mix up”, but that they have yet to apologize for the beating he suffered. Brennan’s attorney believes the officers involved should go to jail, but according to reports none of them have even been suspended or otherwise reprimanded. According to Brennan, he is not against Austrian officials or the police, but simply wants to stand up for what is right. This is not the first such news from Austria, which has a poor history of racism. According to one anti-racism organization (ZARA), there were over 700 other such incidents in Austria last year alone.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 11:41 pm
My question is this, La Luna... if it was nothing bad, then why did you change it?

Not trying to fight, or be less than a "gentleman", just to have the facts laid out. That's all. No thanks, I don't need the proof. I'll believe you, but I would like to see less trashing of Mexico and more solutions and good things. As with any country.

Better to focus on the good, since our thoughts draw more situations created of that energy.

Yes, back to Austria.

What's up with the Moctezuma headress? Any leads on who took it? Sorry mi amor (Tere) I didn't read it. Just that it was in Austria.

Sunday July 5, 2009, 11:51 pm
Well, check this:

Mexico Wants Montezuma's Headdress Back from Austria

Some experts say it finally became public property in Austria when it was donated to the museum during the Second World War by a private collector.

Many Mexicans consider the headdress their country's single most important relic.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-1-13/36887.html

According to Vienna's Museum of Ethnology, it later fell into the hands of Austria's Archduke Ferdinand of Tyrol.

You checked WHEN did Austria possesed our headress??????

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:02 am
Baby:

Here is the picture and by the way, I didn´t post it in that site, I can lie but I will not (lol)

http://mx.geocities.com/livi_luiswel_2004/moctezumaxocoyotzin/images/penacho.jpg

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:15 am
Weird that it would end up in Austria during the 2nd World War. Regardless, they should give it back to Mexico, as it is a national treasure. It's the honest and respectful thing to do.

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:16 am
I am sad to say but at this point, Tere, I can only assume that you have a personal vendetta against Austria ... why other then would you go to all the lengths of digging up negative information and what the heck has the case of this monster Fritzl to do with Austria being accused by you of being one of the most racist countries? How about right here in the States where convicted child molestors get not much more than a year in jail and slap on the wrist - is this racist also? Really far fetched as is your assumption that this new jail is the only one available to house criminals? Good grief, the police that has not apologized to a tourist? Come on, let's not get ridiculous here as it leads me to believe that maybe you just might be resenting the fact that once upon a time your lovely country was actually under Austrian rule?

Now I don't know how everyone does it, with all the postings and listing news stories ... how do you find the time? I guess I just don't possess sufficient computer skills to be so active as everything takes me a looong time. But otherwise and if I were so inclined - and here I want to make sure that everyone understands: I AM NOT - I also could take any country and start digging for all sorts of negative information but, frankly, I just don't think it's worth my time. I'd rather learn how to send all those greetings and pretty pictures to everyone and do research on more valuable subjects.

So, let's just stop with the negative to rather call attention to the many wonderful things of each and every nation .... there are so many! And, PLEASE, no more generalizing!

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:36 am
I don´t have nothing against Austria, but I have an issue about crimes commited there and authorities sending them to these resorts to "correct" them.

I am sad also Heide, when I see how many notes about Mexico we can find here and only attacking, never giving a solution. It´s freedom of speech when people don´t make personal attacks and comment, but it´s hate Speech to attack a person just because they don´t like MEXICO IN A NOTE FROM AUSTRIA. Weird that you didn´t notice that at all........

I am giving a solution here: CRIMINALS DON´T DESERVE LUXORY.

By the way, vendetta is what gangsters make. So please, don´t include me in those kind of activities, because I don´t belong to a gang. Thank you.

I don´t agree with putting in those jails monsters like Fritzi, sorry Heide, but jails don´t have to be as horrible as Guantanamo or like the Waldorf Astoria you have in Austria. Jail should be a place to rehabilitate without luxory.

Criminals don´t deserve luxory....they are paying for their crimes.

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:41 am
Just an example of news of other countries at Care2 and nobody complains:

Burma: UN Chief Denied Suu Kyi Visit = Not posted by a citizen of Burma

North Korea Launches Series of Missiles Off Its Eastern Coast = Not posted by a citizen of North Korea

Update: McKinney Relocated From Israeli Prison = Not posted by a citizen from Israel


So.....who are we judging here???? The news or the poster???

you have the answer members and thanks for reading.

Monday July 6, 2009, 12:59 am
And by the way and before I forget:

I don´t have "traumas" of the conquest of Mexico because I am a citizen from Spain, with no Mexican blood but with a Mexican heart, that´s a fact.

Here is a news from Austria that I posted with only positive things in April:

So please don´t accuse me of things I am not lovely lady.

AUSTRIA

http://www.care2.com/news/member/531904814/1119012

And don´t forget to read the comments.

Monday July 6, 2009, 1:21 am
Ah, Teresa, for goodness sake, you still don't REALLY think that this "luxury jail" is the ONLY one in all of Austria? And why do you assume that every criminal gets put into just this one? By the way, I am much more blood thirsty than you are as I would have given Fritzl the death penalty and, believe it or not, I totally agree with you, no social misfit should ever have any comfort at all as confinement alone is not punishment enough. Again, if it were for me, they would all be sent to an intensive labor camp!

No, Tere, I really don't know what you mean witn 'Mexico in a note from Austria", please enlighten me!

Last but certainly not least, yes, the Montezuma Headdress should be returned to its rightful place! But you are going back 50 years to the chaos of World War II ... have you any idea of the fortunes lost by individuals and whole nations that then slowly were re-discovered after decades of search? How many treasures from Egypt, Colombia, Mexico and other places were stolen and smuggled for money?! But here again, you want to put blame on Austria as if they were the thieves. Thousands of artifacts have been ending up in museums and art galleries all over the world, far away from their origin. It will take time and documentation on how this incredible headdress ended up where it is today but - if there was the slightest criminal involvement or wrong doing - of course it will end up in its rightful place.

Obviously, no country wants to do their own dirty laundry, that's why we rely on foreign media to inform us of what is really going on. However, the examples you list are tangible facts and occurances. To just label a country racist WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION OR REFERENCE, is not!

Monday July 6, 2009, 1:44 am
Tere, just noticed your most recent post y ves que tonta que soy but I don't know how to get to the post you graciously included for me to enjoy?! I copied and pasted it into the address bar but to no avail :-(!

I do like the "Mexican Heart" ... that is really sweet! I guess I left mine a long time ago in Vienna but everything else loves and defends to death the country I live in now and adopted many decadews ago. Spent my first honeymoon in Sitges; my present husband is actually from Spanish decent (we got his ancestry documented in Madrid) and the family then migrated via the Canary Islands to Cuba. I also lived in Buenos Aires (my very favorite) and Venezuela and am an aficionado of Folklore music.

Monday July 6, 2009, 6:52 am
Heide! I have a good friend from the Canary Island, it´s beautiful there.

I love Venezuelan music a lot.

Some of the refugees that went out of Europe via Cuba went to Florida, the ones that were in concentration camps, like my father, came via Cuba-Mexico from Marseille Port also.

My roots are from Andalucia and England from my father´s side and from Barcelona, France, Italy and Neetherlands from my mother´s side.

Buenos Aires I haven´t gone but I have tons of friends there.

Here I post the link of Austria again and if you can´t see it, I post also the link of the video I posted Honouring Austria:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/531904814/1119012

Thursday April 16, 2009, 12:27 pm
For those that don´t know yet:

I decided to honour all countries, when I have time I will be posting one by one and all of them. Every country deserves respect and to be admired by their beauty here at Care2. We care to connect, yes?


and the video link is:

Monday July 6, 2009, 6:53 am
the video link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbmtsOZEAk

Monday July 6, 2009, 7:00 am
PS: Not, I don´t say that Austria is a thief,as a matter of fact arrived to Spain first and then it appeared in Austria´s royalty family, maybe it was a gift from the Spanish gov. to Austria. I only will like to see the "Penacho" de Moctezuma back, Mexico had been asking for it to Austria, many years now, all the natives want it back because it´s sacred for the Aztecs and it should be here, were it belongs, with the ancesters of this great nation.

Monday July 6, 2009, 6:51 pm
Okay...If every member is going to jump to the forefront t attack o another member for submitting a story about another country then why is Care 2 in existence?
The continued line of malarky that follows everywhere Tere submits a story has gotten out of hand and simply ridiculous.
If your going to attack a single member over every single story they post at least be a grown up about it.
This is nothing more than a behavior of teenagers still in highschool.
If your don't like whats submitted then deal with your own publishing newspapers, and stop shooting the messenger. so you don't like it?
Big deal. Deal with it in your own time and space.
The members DID NOT WRITE THE NEWS, THEY JUST SUBMITTED HERE AT CARE 2.
And if your going to continually report the person stop being a coward and own up to it.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PERSISTANTLY REPORT A MEMBER FOR POST ARTICLES THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH.
POST YOUR OWN STORIES, AND STOP THIS HABITUAL TARGETING OF PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE.
Get over it, and stop the personal attacks and not expect to get it back.
It is called self defense.
I can count on the same people continually seeking out the same people on every single story they submit, and all you do is the same personal attack.
I don't come here to read your comments, and the the sniping and childish acts need to stop.
Grow up and submit your own news, and stop this petty crap.
Your like a bunch of ill behaved children taking shots at those you don't like on a playground.

Monday July 6, 2009, 10:02 pm
Oh, no, Tere .... at YouTube it says: This video is not available :-(! No worry, I never go there but your prompt did the trick and for the past half hour I have had a wonderful 'Sentimental Journey" (smile)! So I do have to thank you for steering me there!

You have a fascinating heritage and my personal opinion has always been that the more different nationalities end up in one person, the better and more beautiful they turn out to be! My father was a true Hungarian but my Mother had a mix of Hungarian, Austrian and Bohemian blood in her which made her quite a ravishing beauty.

Since I am not trying to make points by submitting news stories or, more honestly, just don't have the savoir faire to do it, I will send you an incredible link to photo collages from all the Spanish speaking countries and maybe you can publish them for others to enjoy. You will especially love Spain which is also devided into the different regions and your 'Mexican Heart' will rejoice as well! My Cuban friend Luisa sent it to me .... would you believe it, she just left yesterday for Europe and is right now in Vienna for 2 weeks... I am so jealous, lol, and the last week of her journey she'll be meeting with and visiting family in Spain!

Have a great evening, Tere!

Wednesday July 8, 2009, 11:23 pm
Heide, I just saw the video.....maybe you have dial up? well, let me know.

I will be glad to see those pics. You are a great person, I post all the countries, not only Austria, I go in alphabetilcal order.