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The Obama Administration is planning to allow complete U.S. Federal Government control over ALL individual retirement accounts (401K's) and tax us until death do we part ... evermore! This has now become known as the 'De-Privatization' of America.

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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Friday March 18, 2011, 10:28 am
Everyone should wake-up, pull their head out of the sand and realize where all of this de-privatizing crap is heading the United States of America!!!!!!!!!.....etc.

Alice C (1797)
Friday March 18, 2011, 11:01 am
Noted ~ Thank you for posting this information

Janet G (108)
Friday March 18, 2011, 11:22 am
Thanks PinkMindy, I have heard of this and think there will be some major riots, but certain Homeland Security and the National Guard is ready for Civil Unrest and "disobedience and unless we are aware, will kill most of us anyway with toxic Montsanto GMO foods and big Pharma drugs, then who needs to pay back?

Ant m (47)
Friday March 18, 2011, 11:42 am
He told us he would do all this , and yet those idiots voted him in ...

Ingrid A (524)
Friday March 18, 2011, 12:49 pm
Thank you PinkMindy.

MmAway M (506)
Friday March 18, 2011, 6:11 pm
Thank you PinkMindy...I am so shocked when some people tell me Obama (OH OH OWEBAMA) is ok and they get Mad when I send them some information like this...I can't wait until 2012, I am sure he will be a goner...we need him OUSTED many cuts to my mother Social Security, and probably in just a few years when I should be able to get benefits, they are now so low I would be better off with a shopping cart picking up bottles out of the trash...I certainly DID not Vote for this PERSON and SHOCKED that he is STILL in OFFICE -- sick when I see him on the news - after Japan's devistation - here on the Pacific Coast we were watching the news for information and UGH here comes (Twinkly Toes OH OH) changed channels and he was just all over the place, one station still was reporting the news, while "O" was talking about OIL PRICES...OMG -- GUYS get this Joker out of the USA!!! We are going under water and need scuba gear!

And, What is with the Health another raise from Blue they have ousted me from Heath Insurance at 890/month....That is HIGHWAY ROBBERY! I will be like the illegals that get to go to Emergency and get free help when I am at death's door!

Sorry Pink Mindy -- Ranting, loved Fifth Knights Blog! Thanks!!!

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Friday March 18, 2011, 7:27 pm
What more will it take for the Obama worshippers to realize that just maybe this guy is not what they want for "change"!? It is so obvious and yet they will stand behind him and support him the whole way. I have no pity for anyone who insists on being deliberately ignorant!!

MmAway M (506)
Friday March 18, 2011, 7:31 pm
Carol...Right ON!

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Friday March 18, 2011, 7:52 pm
Just in case someone has missed this .....

Shocking Real-Time U.S. National Debt Clock

MmAway M (506)
Friday March 18, 2011, 8:01 pm
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Pink Mindy that is so disturbing!!! My eyes were going buggie at how fast the debt numbers were going...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Stelizan L (258)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 6:23 am
Maybe it's not just a matter of this not being quite the guy you wanted for change, maybe he's got the wrong kind of advisers??? And he's so inundated with advice from all sides, he hasn't got a hope in hell to 'vote' against them? Seems like the American people are 'digging graves' for themselves; it's time they wake up to the real world and start doing something to ensure a better future for themselves by NOT allowing politicians and governments to make life choices on their behalf without them having any say in it!!!

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 6:50 am
* WP Obama Headline News Article:

"West Wing Briefing: Obama Starts to Engage on His Reelection Effort" - @ Washington Post Headline News

Saturday March 19, 2011, 6:51 am
GREAT NATION ... A N E R I C A !!! EEEK !!! SO ..........

Jae A (316)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 7:37 am
ROFLMAO...This is such BUllshit rightwinger nutcase Fear tatic as usual. GOP Fascist want to privatize our nations government and this kind of rethoric is to be expected to keep the ignoant ..Tea Bagger/WhiteSurpremist/SkinHead groups ralling behind then. Nothing like taking something out of context such as the clips have. Oh well, even the stupid need something to hold onto since they are the ones [Fascist GOP] who have put us into mulitpul crisis and ending democracy currently. Why not post the entire speech [s] if this is anything worth even watching in the first place which it [they] aren't as just edited bullshit for hyping the stupid to rally ......and to crawl back out from under their rocks or wherever it is they hide each time FACTS not rethoric and edited clips come out showing how they are suppporting the shredding of our democracy.

FOOLS do rush in and the Rightwing Fascist are quick to do that as we all know.

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 8:30 am
TRULY MAD INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had to stop by and say: BRAVO & "Down With It's Bloody Big Head"!!!

The truth is that the U.S. Government is becoming more and more desperate every single passing day, so it is a proven fact that they will do any under-handed and conspiratorial thing which enters THEIR minds.

I am not eligible to send 'green stars' as yet to PinkMindy / Sam C. / PlsNoMessages M. / Alice D. / Ant M. / Ingrid A. / Stella W. / & Janet G., but I would if I could!

Maui G (68)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 9:26 am it 2012 yet?????

MmAway M (506)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 12:26 pm
Actually, Maui, God has answered your prayers with Rain, Earthquakes, etc....don't think anyone is toooo happy right now!

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 12:55 pm
Away Jae....You have all of those descriptions turned around buddy...that is what the liberal left consists of!!!!!!!!! Every time they open their mouths that is what comes out!!

Stella..That is what we are doing...we started in 2010...come 2012 we will finish off taking our country back! With any luck at all we will still have a country left TO take back!!

Lady Flo (117)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 2:05 pm
Well,great post,thank you,you maybe voted for wrong man,I do not see some change from USA side.He is Bush in another clothes.You expected too mush but it has not been well done. It is so everywhere.

Jae A (316)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 7:32 pm
There is one big problem with Obama Carol D and others...he is thinking more like a Republican/Neocon . ONe would think you folks would be applauding him as he's doing just what you want.....You talk about 2012 like it's going to change isn't...they've all been bought up by your gods the corporates. Take back what you that is funny Carol D. Obama's not a great choice as he is more Neocon than he is liberal but he's a hell of a lot better than anything the GOP/Neocon side has to offer. There are better choice than either out there and that's who we should all be looking for...not supporting Obama and damn sure not supporting the eggheads on the right thing we do not need is more of the same for those who put us into this crisis that's for certain.

Jae A (316)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 7:38 pm addition :-)..The biggest difference between liberal supports and rightwing supporters is that liberals reconize when one of their own isn't working out and we change that a.s.a.p . on our own without the opposition. The right will keep trying to ride a dead horse. Right is too blind to reality ...Bushler showed that ....Would be great if you people would think of the country and not just your political side now and then for a change but you don''s like sides at a football game for rightwing supporters...Not about the country some kind of win be it against your own good.which you did show everyone in the 2010 elections that you'd vote against not only your own good but the good of the nation.

MmAway M (506)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 7:42 pm
Jae...How about the ASS on the Left...They are so wound up they don't know how to have as a political figure...Hillery Doesn't want it..

Lisa Zarafonetis (168)
Saturday March 19, 2011, 9:58 pm
Shared on Facebook!!! :(

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:39 am
The biggest difference between liberal supports and rightwing supporters is that liberals reconize when one of their own isn't working out and we change that a.s.a.p . on our own without the opposition

By all means please do then...get him the h*ll out of the White House now!!!!!!! And sorry gotta disagree with you because Obama sure is not doing what we want him to but more so what the liberals have been wanting to do and in fact doing ever since Clinton was in office! That is when I can tell you I saw this country going down hill for sure. Bush was not perfect no..but he loved his country which is way more than anybody can say for Obama!!!! If it was up to him you would living under Shariah Law pretty soon!

H Nick H (1826)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:47 am
I tend to doubt this, and urge others to beware of the Karl Rove Swiftboating actions of the republican party. This is just someone's blog. I serched it out, and found nothing.

BEWARE, IT'S NOT TRUE. I suggest sending real proof, not someone thoughts on it.

H Nick H (1826)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:01 am
Jay, I agree with you. That is the difference. At least liberals truly look at things, then make decions, rather than have decisons made for them by the ruling party. I am very aware of these attacks without truth or merit. I see it all the time, and am cautious at what I send. This does not mean I agree with everything our president does, but I seek truth. Opinions are OK, as long as they are listed as such.

But over 95% of our media is controlled by republicans, so it is difficult to get the truth. That's why I wstch the BBC and PBS (which republicans want to destroy.. it's another sourch of truth they don't want). And if I could watch Other news sources outside the US, I could get a better picture of what is going on here nationally.

So, spreading gossup like this is not a good idea. And beleive me, I see a lot of it every day. It's disguesting at times, the lies and mis-information that is spread. Just makes me think how desperate republcians are. I miss the republicans I knew a long time ago, that really cared. It's not the same today. Even R Regan would be considered a "liberal" today. It's crazyi!

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 5:19 am
Perhaps we shall be forced to barter our massive national federal spending debt, as we balance precariously upon the edge of total economic collapse, by selling our ingeniously procured 'CLUNKERS' on the international black-market for real Yen and of course in the final payment of our U.S. toxic debt to China!?!?

*Note: The reason for the currency exchange to Yen is due to the fact that the U.S. Dollar is slowly being removed as being the accepted World Reserve Currency, and if that happens across a majority of nations, then the United States will no longer be legally allowed to indefinitely print more 'new' devalued money!

Question: Has the Obama family taken their 8th or 9th expensive vacation (I have lost count) to the Caribbean as yet???

The following link contains video proof of Obama's intention for the economic conspiracy to seize legal control over all retirement accounts and its inevitable reality to finally wipe out the middle-class of Americans from existence .... in a move to generate economic genocide and slavery.

Mary S (1)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:22 am
Which Tea Bagger group does this "person" belong too? If they knew anything they should also know that the House of Representatives does all the money bills and dear one, that is totally controlled by Tea Baggers.
I don't approve of all he does but the House certainly hasn't given him a chance. By the way, it is the Republicans that want to privitize Social Security and do away with Medicare, have even introduced laws that protect child labor, so rant somewhere else. Am really disappointed in Care Two for not vetting this kind of political Swift Boating.

David C (131)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:31 am
I heard this on the radio, too, but I think its ANOTHER CRAZY LYING RIGHT WING SCHEME...wake up and realize that anti-Obama people will say and do anything.
I have never heard the man call for privitazation of 401Ks, it has always been the Conservative/Republican Corporatist (see Bush Administration) who tried to get Social Security/Medicare to be privatized -- if President Obama has had a problem these past 2 years it has been forgetting his base and working with Republicans too much (otherwise we would have universal health care, would be completely out of Guantanamo, closer to being out of Iraq/Afghanistan, and would have done away with DODA/DOMA/etc long time ago. We would also have comprehensive global warming abatement legislation).
STOP TRYING TO MAKE PRESIDENT OBAMA A LIBERAL-PROGRESSIVE HE IS CLEARLY MUCH MORE A PRAGMATIST AND MODERATE, yes I do think he has too many corporate leanings which makes him the bane of liberals.

Jae A (316)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:34 am
Mad Hatter, you apparently,like the majority of the rightwing fascist aren't aware [as with most thing about politics] that Dubya Bush took more vacations...even with two wars going/.katrina/etc. ,than any president ever in history has,so I would go on about what the Obama Family does when it comes to vacations.

Now back to the topic of the that is one thing only ...make up BULLSHIIT...of the same ol same ol kind we've all come to expect from the brain dead tea bagger/white supremist/skin head fascist supporters.

I will not bother going to more links that probably have edited clips of someone proving nothing just as the one on this thread is saying is proof....Profit of editing and mindless bullshiiiit but that's all it is proof of. Well that and someone knows how to edit a clip of someones speech. How lame this entire article/clip is.

Ok, now you can all go with more diversion tactics from this pointless edited clip that is the topic of this thread,which really is nothing short of laughable at best....Like I said at first was a ROFLMAO kind of meaningless clip for possible Black comedy entertainment only.

. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:37 am
What exactly has he done that he stated he would do if elected.............I can't seem to think of a THING! noted with disgust!

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:31 am
Carol D., Marilyn M., Sam C., Paula H. & others have made excellent previous comments and are being buried by the counter-rhetoric from several loner LEFT WING NUTS, but the Mad Hatter's comment deserves a cut & paste encore!!!

*** Mad Hatter Quote:

Perhaps we shall be forced to barter our massive national federal spending debt, as we balance precariously upon the edge of total economic collapse, by selling our ingeniously procured 'CLUNKERS' on the international black-market for real Yen and of course in the final payment of our U.S. toxic debt to China!?!?

*Note: The reason for the currency exchange to Yen is due to the fact that the U.S. Dollar is slowly being removed as being the accepted World Reserve Currency, and if that happens across a majority of nations, then the United States will no longer be legally allowed to indefinitely print more 'new' devalued money!

Question: Has the Obama family taken their 8th or 9th expensive vacation (I have lost count) to the Caribbean as yet???

The following link contains video proof of Obama's intention for the economic conspiracy to seize legal control over all retirement accounts and its inevitable reality to finally wipe out the middle-class of Americans from existence .... in a move to generate economic genocide and slavery.

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:50 am
I am humbled by your 'encore' repeat PinkMindy!

Just wanted to alert the public that this article has now reached the Care2 Front Page with 45 Notes & 32 extremely interesting Comments .... And is also running VIRAL across Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, MyYearbook, & several other social networking sites.

OMG!!! & WOW!!!!!

Tierney G (381)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:58 am
there are wing nuts on both sides where are the normal people in the middle??
In fact where are ANY normal people in this world? have they all lost their minds?
'I hate to tell you but this world has so many problems I do not think they will ever be solved. Too many opinions too little time.
The end of times is nearing because the devil is controlling the whole world now. Maybe we should all try to get along for a change?

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:41 am
I would completely agree with Tierney G. .... if this were a 'normal' world, which it most definitely is NOT, but we cannot totally agree just as long as there are LACKEYS who indiscriminately protect their evil idiot politicians and brainlessly refuse to challenge these obscure agendas!


PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:44 am
P.S.: .... Regardless of the political affiliation, whether it be Republican or Democrat.

Randy James Martinez (31)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:48 am
Noted, RT, and FB ! I agree that we are all Americans regardless of party affiliation!!! "RJM" Thanks Pink Mindy and Go Green!

Marco C (31)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:51 am
It's too bad that some of you missed the opportunity to work together as Americans and instead will allow yourselves to be defined by a political party and have choosen to remain divided mis and uninformed.

It is clear that neither party is working in favor of the American people, only a choosen few of them. Allowing that spirit to continue will have a poor outcome, especially for those that are feeling especially confident their politiical choice, you are not amoung the choosen few. By the time you realize it, it will be too late. The rest will have moved on, leaving you behind, by your own choice,alone and broken.

It doesn't need to be that way, but it will because it is your choice, we still have a choice. Make an effort at choosing well.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:11 am
Do you right wingers even realize how badly you hurt us with your liberal hate and veiled support of corporate fascism?

Why won't you people LEARN? What is keeping you from seeking truth? Lazy? I'm 100% positive it's lazyness.


Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:12 am
NOT WORTHY ...Click!

Esther Z (94)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:23 am
Jae, Nick, Dave and Jason are the only voices of reason. The rest are right wing nutters who don't care about America. For some reason, they support Corporate slavery, ignorace, xenophobia, discrimination, homophobia, hypocrisy, and just plain lying to the American people. Yeah, I can see you nutters voting off President Obama, and placing instead a Repug who's only agenda is to serve his Corporate master.

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:34 am

Is Reliable???

A growing body of people do feel that it is liberally biased. “FactCheck”.org is an affiliate of the Annenberg, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers and Obama were on their board.

"Is Reliable?" ... at Answers ...

I think we should ignore or at least highly question any comment on this comment line that has ANYTHING to do with!


PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:42 am

Mad Hatter,

That's exactly what I have been hearing for many months now ... that is covering for the Obama Administration's actions and INACTIONS too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:02 am

I can sense the Left Wing Nutters have mysteriously lost their steam and gone out for a late lunch -- I guess!?!?

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:03 am is so right wing, it makes me as sick as you fascism supporters! Look at our economy the right left us. Yet, here you are. Hating the one thing that can save you, your family, your children, etc.


That's WHY the rich, fat cat fascists want you to HATE IT. Stop being lazy and stupid and get with the majority of the people that work to know right from wrong. Be mentally lazy if you want but let us save us.

All you have is lies to go on.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:14 am
And that picture reminds me of the frenzied, hate email that goes on amongst the racist, haters I've seen.

We know what you do. We know how much you forward your VOLUMES of hate mail. It's disgusting and childish.

. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:16 am
I didn't vote for him......

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:18 am
Nutters? Are you kidding ME!? Come out from behind that curtain. You can't call people that know the truth about this fascist SCAM, nutters. Life doesn't work that way.


Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:26 am
And what do you sub 45 year olds know about "The American Way Of Life!" ? You didn't even know there was an american dream to lose.

Does any one have a parent that's going to leave behind a small estate soon, like me? You'll never know that because you'll be too poor to own anything worth a damned. You think that because people make a living wage and you make less, they should because Scott Walker fascists say so. Talk about "no clue"! Talk about a complete LACK of vision!

You people no nothing of history/policy/politics and you're aiding in destroying a way of a secure life our parents worked their butts off to leave you.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:29 am
Know..."I didn't vote for him......" That took a lot of thought.

Do you get the seriousness of your mistakes?

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:36 am
But over 95% of our media is controlled by republicans, so it is difficult to get the truth.

Nick..Sorry buddy...After reading this that you said you have lost me on reading anything else you have to say...this is the biggest misinformation ever!! Fox News is the only real Conservative Media station...the rest are all liberal...Huffy...MSNBC...NBC...CNN and the list goes on!! How can you even make a statement like that!?

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:39 am

Someone on this comment line is apparently vastly more imbalanced than I .....

So please quit 'monkeying' around with these politics you obviously so dreadfully misunderstand with your one-sided rose-colored monocle lens!

I see a little kid ranting in the streets screaming "It's A Lie", "It's A Lie" ...

This is just personal overdrive-protectionism to the max.

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:46 am

Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"

You cannot currently send a star to Carol because you have done so within the last week.

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:55 am
Jason..You lost!! WAKE UP!! is so right wing, it makes me as sick as you fascism supporters!

We now have a possible reason why FactCheck seemed to be in Obama’s pocket. Namely, FactCheck’s sugar daddy is a big donor to the anti-Second Amendment folks at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

FactCheck supposedly exists to look beyond a politician’s claims. Ironically, in its analysis of NRA materials on Barack Obama, these so-called “FactCheckers” use the election year campaign rhetoric of a presidential candidate and a verbal claim by one of the most zealous gun control supporters in Congress to refute facts compiled by NRA’s research of vote records and review of legislative language.

There’s another possible explanation behind FactCheck’s positions. Just last year, FactCheck’s primary funding source, the Annenberg Foundation, also gave $50,000 to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence for “efforts to reduce gun violence by educating the public and by enacting and enforcing regulations governing the gun industry.” Annenberg made a similar grant for $100,000 in 2005. (source)

Regardless of the cause, it’s clear that while FactCheck swoons over a politician’s rhetoric, NRA prefers to look at the more mundane details – like how that politician voted on a bill and what kind of impact that legislation had or may have had on law-abiding gun owners.

As Columbo would say: just one more thing.

The Annenberg Foundation? Doesn’t that sound familiar in the context of Barack Obama? Why, yes it does!

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:58 am
Thanks Pink Mindy!!

donald Baumgartner (6)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:29 pm
I have NO REGRETS ABOUT VOTING for Obama & will be doing so in Nov"12!!

Robert Tomlinson (62)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:38 pm
Jae, Nick, Dave, Esther and Jason are tight on. Look at this blog....and that is what it is!! The Right Wing is so prone to believe any Right Wing Propaganda that they ignore everything else.....even facts. Do you remember how all of the Far Right was so concerned about "pulling the plug on Grandma"? Now with the Republican cutting money going to Medicaid, which will actually throw Grandma out of the nursing home, they tend to go right along with the cuts. FOX has set the stage for how to set up a Propaganda Ministry and the other "Right Minded" groupies are joining in. What a sad case of living in a free country and spouting so much misinformation and hate on their own citizens. Instead of trying to sit down with people they disagree with and work out solutions, as have been done for over two hundred years, they are bent on resurrecting the McCarthy era with distortions and lies.

Dianna M (16)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:39 pm
Wasn't it George W. Bush who first suggested "privatizing" Social Security? But now it's Obama's fault?

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:45 pm
I lost? We all lost. You lose. Every one loses.

Has any one heard of project censored? Of course you didn't! You don't care! Fox doesn't want you to know.

CNN is liberal!? lo That's why it's headed by about 10 republicans. Blitzer is a raving fascist. Spitzer is a Liberal. He asks the right questions.

Lets look at the PROOF that the fascist bought up most of the media and controls it with 188 board members.

While you're in your dream world. Why did Courac say she wanted to do some important human interest stories and her editor said no? Get it. They're all right wing owned.

Jennie B (14)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:47 pm
Ignorance is alive and well on Care2 - it's obvious Pink and her kind hated Obama from the start. What you don't make clear is any solutions to problems you have listed. Some don't even exist. You have SS because of a LIBERAL Democrat and it is solvent regardless of what Repugs say - straight out lies, but you are too lazy to look for the truth. You want it spoon fed and to believe like most sheeple that Obama is bad without finding out what he has done. Could be racism mascarading as "concern" that he'll run the country - he is more toward that middle than most Presidents and even tries to work with the other side. Of course he can't please either side. The left wants everything NOW even after it took Bush 8 yrs to ruin the economy and give us a winless war. But still, you want yours and even think you deserve it for being born. If SS is gone when you are old it will be the fault of right wingers and baggers not Obama. You can't have it both ways - supporting Repugs who plan to do away with SS, and the middle class and working poor, deconstruct the educational system so everyone goes to private schools - or at least the poor and rich since the middle class can't afford it. Badmouthing liberals - that's so clever as if you didn't get that from your right wing bigots. Obama is not the BAD boogie man. If you think he's bad wait til you get the Repug you want in office - he will quickly do away with SS, Medicare and Medicaid, hate on gays, and tax the middle class out of existence and keep corporate welfare alive and well. And if you think Repugs will make more jobs - forget it. Repugs support the corporations and top 1% wealthy people but he will cut your taxes so you will have a $200 check to look forward to. And since he probably doesn't believe in evolution or science, we will fall even further behind in medicine (38th and falling now)/health care and he doesn't care if you EVER get health care unless you are already rich. The middle class and working poor are definitely targets of baggers and Repugs. They have been vocal about it. Really self defeating aren't you? Of course you think you are going to be rich "someday" but don't hold your breath. Have you noticed any Republican business or corporation racing to create jobs? You can always go where our jobs are: in India and Mexico. All I see in this thread is pure HATE of Obama based on what? Nothing conrete here. Your arguments are weak - I think you mouth what Beck et all say without researching to see if they have a clue what they are talking about. This country will be what you make it. Your mistake is not being more educated and balanced (like FOX - what a joke). It's all about me, ME, MEEEEE. With this kind of division, we are doomed. When an intelligent president who speaks well, and acts on what he says he'll do (but not at your speed) is a BAD guy, I recognize sheeples who conform instead of thinking for themselves. Just as with Clinton, you won't realize how good you had it, til he's out of office.

Carol Reins (99)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:56 pm
Thank you mindy for stating all the lies that the repuglicans and the Tp's want you to believe...I guess we've all but forgotten our dearly mistrustful bush and his warmonger cabinet and the lies they told...judge not lest ye be judged..."have you forgotten me yet" billboards on, I haven't you idiot! The repugs want to destroy the middle class and have the poor in lines waiting for their cup o'broth!

Margaret H (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 12:56 pm
I don't believe a word of this article--sounds like more right wing paranoia to me. When will people learn to check the facts on propaganda like this or is this something they want to believe even though they know it isn't true?

Rosary G (3)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:00 pm
What a bunch of bullpucky. Total crap. You should be ashamed of yourself peddling that stuff here.

Trina D. firey (10)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:02 pm
Nobody knows for sure if this article's information is true, yet everyone is jumping all over Obama!
Newt Gingrich may run in 2012. Will he make you more content?

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:07 pm
Is this a gossip issue until we hear the bare facts to make up whats been damaged in hear say. I agree with Carol Dreeszen. This must be a pay back issue thats going on with the 401K as the gov takes it as a gift and not worrying about paying you back. Someone is money hungry up there.

. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:07 pm
I could find more truth in an X-Men cartoon or by watching the Daily Show. How can you believe a 5 second clip taken out of context. The author is reaching for the moon with a backscratcher. Everyone needs to have talk to their politicians and have them work on the issues that will restart this economy not fairy tales like this story.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:19 pm
Is it better on ecstasy?

Jb B (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:19 pm
The Government can't manage their own money so definitely don't want them managing personal 401K's.

Wayne W (12)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:23 pm
It's not Obama's fault. The aliens, the grays I think, and bigfoot are making him do it. Obama wears pants. Hitler wore pants. Coincidence? Buy stock in tinfoil hats!

Cheryl K (4)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:28 pm
This is a stupid rumor that's been making the rounds for years. It is based on a flawed interpretation of one expert witness at a House committee hearing and does not represent any policy proposal. The whole thing has been thoroughly debunked by

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:38 pm
Thanks for making us all losers, righty. Thanks a lot!

If you don't advocate for the people, you give your life to corporate fascism.

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Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:45 pm
I knew it. Another 39ish year old Reagan brat. Knows nothing of the american dream. Just another republiborg.

Butler, GA, USA
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What I Want to Do: Save the animals, Make a difference for animals, Make a difference anyway that I can, Make a difference, Give-share-help as much as possible, Help the Environment, Help heal our planet, be myself
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You people need to get an education.

Start with a historical/policy genius and work down. Quit the haters.

Karen E. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 1:53 pm
Come on people, did you actually go to the page linked in the above? There is a 3 second part of a sentence Obama makes saying something like there are no garauntees for your money invested in the stock market - that" "proof" that he's taking control of our retirement accounts. Give me a break ya'll. That page is an ADVERTISEMENT for gold investing. THe only way you can get to see the 2nd "proof" video is if you order a booklet. PLEASE, read, use your brains, don't just scan the headlines and assume it is the whole picture. Pink mindy - shame on you for posting such missleading crap.

Richard J (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 2:46 pm
The “danger signal” is the thought process of those who post this sort of bull, not Obama. The issues today for America is our living beyond our means, we lack of fiscal discipline, we seem to not want to pay for what we get through appropriate taxes. Politically we have turned our votes to what the wealthiest lobby thinks best, and we strive for short-term gratification. Studies indicate that if the entire world lived like we do it would take 5 earths to support us. Comes the revolution we will see how it goes.

Kevin Sharpe (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 2:50 pm
what the fuck is this whining, hate mongering crap doing on Care2 ???
* head shake *

a PS ...
applauds Karen E

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 2:51 pm
Thank you, Karen. I remember when the scam came out. They have to recycle them.

Use your brains! Perfect message/plea. The future was supposed to be made bright. Atwater/Reagan started the ruin and some people still buy the lies. Too many to get turned around.

Boehner said you people have spoken and there will be no tax hikes on the rich and no cuts to oil company welfare ($30billion).

Did you say that? If not, why didn't you call him on it? It's really important.

Tierney G (381)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:09 pm
That is what I was trying to say. Who is telling the truth anymore? I voted for Obama but he has been bought by the corporations to a point I fear. Now we are going into our third war! Wasn't it Obama who was against these wars while he was running for office? What about nuclear power since when was Obama a pro-nuker? Then there is that little problem with cutting taxes for the rich and stealing from the poor actually that is the BIGGEST mistake he made! There was also that healthcare issue his base wanted songle payer once again he sold out to the right and the Corporations.
That is why I don't trust any of them and probably never will. They all go in saying one thing and get bought off by lobbyists and corporations.
The whole Governement needs to be cleaned out. Maybe we people could do a better job. NOT we all have to many differing opinions. In fact the country is pretty much split down the middle on ever issue according to almost all the polls. how are we ever going to get anything done? I don't know but I agree it is very serious and needs to be fixed now and I do not mean just the deficit people need JOBS like yesteryear! Where are the jobs?


Margaret B (9)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:11 pm
What do you think of when you see a highschool kid or a college kid wearing a Che Guevera shirt. Do you think he is smart or do you want to tell him that Che killed millions of his own people. Sibelius is now the top person in Obamacare. Sibelius, who along with Holder and Emanuel wrote books about depopulation. Writing about forced abortions saying that it wouldn't work as well in third world contries because of no Dr at birth. Writing about forced sterilization, saying they should sterilize the women because men would rebel too much. Even suggesting putting sterilants in our drinking water but making sure it didn't affect the animals. There is a video of Bill Gates in a lecture hall saying we have to depopulate the world by billions. He said 'fortunately we can do that with health care and vaccinations. This can all be verified. Read the books. Watch the video on he net. Are these the people you want running America?
There is a video of Gore telling school children that they know more than their parents. A video of the self admitted Van Jones speaking to our children, telling them they no longer have to respect their elders because they are smarter than their parents and Grandparents, making fun of the elders because some of them sometimes have to ask their children for help on the computer. Is this what we want? Self admitted communists speaking to our children?
There is no longer a Dem party. The Progressives have taken it over. They have also infiltrated the Rep party and every aspect of our govt. our schools and colleges, our churches. They consider themselves the "educated elite" and you are "useful idiots". Do you know what Socialism/Communism is? If not then ask yourself why Cubans risk their lifes in rickety boats to flee Cuba for the U.S. When you see one of B.O's appointed people say Mao is one of her favorite people, a man who also killed millions of his own people, what do you think of her statement.
The Progeessives want an open border because they see it as more votes. Not only are we being overrun by illegals from Mexico, terrorists are coming across the border posing as Mexicans. At last count there were thousands of them. The illegals all say they want to come here to work and the American dream. And yet they burn our flag and say we stole their land. (History shows this is not true) La Raza teaches them we stole their land and it is their duty to cross the border and fight in the revolution.
It is your duty to fight against this if you are a true American and love your country. You don't have to love the politicans but love your country and fight for it against all injustices.

Christians are being persecuted and prosecuted. Th

A T L (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:12 pm
Thank you, Nick. I searched as well and FOUND NOTHING. This person is probably a "Swift Boater" or a Tea Pary fanatic that is trying to make people think "the sky is falling." It is falling in the House of Representatives. They have declared war on women and children. They are doing NOTHING to promote jobs and the economy. So I say to all of you BEWARD AND SEARCH OUT THE SUPPOSED "FACTS" THAT SOME PEOPLE DISH UP.

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:21 pm
Well it doesn’t require much reading between the lines on this one, the Plutocracy is fighting to hold ground and willing to go to any lengths perpetrating their propaganda upon the numb of mind and those unwilling to seek out the truth lying just beyond the pale of darkening greed driven lies. Evil can succeed only if good men and women do nothing. So do something! 0.012% of Americans control 50% of the total wealth,and controling the course of the country. Does that constitute a Plutocracy equal to the pre Revolutionary War, minus a coronation and crown?

Margaret B (9)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:26 pm
Mexico is a wealthy country. Their leaders could have created decent paying jobs for their people yrs ago. Instead they chose to let them live in poverty or forced them to cross the border and be exploite by big growers, just to feed their familes. They cost us 5.2 billion a yr. In turn they send billions back to Mexico. We are not only supporting them here, we are Mexico's second highest source of income.Money that they get here but does not go back into our economy. They are not just taking jobs that Americans don't want. They are in constrution, home repair, roofing, and the casinos employ thousands of them. Jobs that any American would take, especially nowadays. And yet with all this plus the terrorists crossing B.O refuses to protect our border. Read up on the NWO. Because that is what this is all leading up to. And America will be a third world country led by a dictator.
Some of you are claiming this article is false. Just someone's blog. I have written many things here and got tired of verivying it for you and started saying look it up. But all I am met with is name calling. No facts. No proof that what I said is wrong. Just you are an uneducated, unintelligent redneck racist that needs medication. I think I covered it all. Don't believe in your politicians. None of them Read their records. Read how they have voted in the past yrs. Don't take their word for anything. Reps or Progressives. I read about all of them. I don't just pass stuff off as being someones blog. I study what I am told by anyone. I listen to both sides. If you don't know by now that B.O hates America, if his not saluting our flag, canceling National Prayer Day, not protecting our country's borders, helping Brazil drill for oil that Soros owns while not allowing drilling here, appointing communist Tsars don't convince you that he should not be running America then all I can say is what will happen to you is worse than anything I could wish on you.

Michael D. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:28 pm
Okay then, what's the alternative(s)? McCain? Palin? Romney? Newt? Michael Steele?? Ron Paul? No matter what you think of Obama, the alternatives (?) are not only worse, but even more threatening. The RepublicaNOs offer nothing.

Cristina M (137)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:29 pm
Yeah yeah yeah and the Flying Spaghetti Monster rules over the universe. Just another crazy and stupid Republican rhetoric.

Margaret B (9)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:42 pm
And above all his collusion with the Unions who are killing business and helping bankrupt America is proof that he is not trying to help America. Businesses can no longer afford union worker. Unions started off as s good thing. They quickly were taken over by crooks and became as corrupt as the govt. What some union members don't seem to grasp is that if we let the unions keep their power over people then soon there will be no money and they won't even have a job. We are broke and in debt. We have to stop the fraud and corruption in govt. We send billions of dollars to other countries, even terrorist countries thru U.S aid and charitable donations. Do you see any difference in their poor? Take Haiti for instance. They won't even tell us where all that money went. George Clooney has saved Haiti and moved on to New Zealand. So far he and Sean Penn have not been to Japan, nor were they in Tenn when it flooded or any of the other states that were flooded in the east. I didn't see them complaining about nothing being done about the people suffering in the gulf coast when the oil rig blew up.
Americans are the most charitiable people in the world. And if I see an illegal spreading our flag out and spitting on it and walking on it and trying to tear and burn it I would be in jail or killed because I would cover that flag with my body till one of the other happened.

Susanne R (235)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:54 pm
What is "The Fifth Knight's Blog"? Is it a credible source of information or just some kind of joke --because that's what it appears to be. It doesn't appear to have an author (or one who was willing to be cited by name) and looks very unprofessional. Why are so many people accepting it as truth, when it appears to be a big joke?

Tierney G (381)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:57 pm
Myke B do really think the Government has that much control over your own children? OMG that is the problem right there. It is the PARENTS responsibility to displine and teach their own children the wrongs and rights of the world and keep at it and set them straight when they hear garbage at school and on TV from friends. it is the Parents who have failed their children! Life is so expensive and life has so many road blocks it is very difficult for parents to do their job properly and I mean BOTH parents when they have to work six jobs to make ends meet. We have failed as a species when are we going to admit that and move forwards?

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 3:58 pm

My math error in my previous post. Americans controlling 50% of nations wealth is 1.14% = roughly 400 individuals, not 0.012% which would only = 42, sorry. But then again, its close enough for the right to be barely discernable.

Patricia N (41)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:09 pm
Before posting something like this I would check it out on

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:15 pm
I hope everyone took a look at the It is mind-boggling. Our national debt is over 14 Trillion dollars!! If we had No central banking system, (PRIVATELY-OWNED Federal Reserve), we would likely carry No debt from one presidency to another, and we certainly wouldn't be anywhere near 14 Trillion dollars in debt! We need to take back the control of our monetary system, and stop paying interest on our own money!

Lisa H (180)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:37 pm
Yes, I see that the Right Wing Nutters are raging, even here on C2. Pink Mindy, I'm pretty ashamed of you. This is a BLOG, not any source that is required to print truth, and the video they have posted as "proof" says NOTHING OF THE KIND!! There are plenty of sites where you can post your right wing LIES without people noticing. This is NOT one of them. Go away little right wing liars!!

MmAway M (506)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:40 pm
Yes Robert O...that Debt Clock link that Pink Mindy posted near the top is distressing and that is NO LIE....sadly, we are going down the Rabbit Hole of no return here in the USA...So agree that the PEOPLE here in the USA need to take back control and stop putting all of their BLIND Faith in Politicans...Umm I have only on Rare occasions met some (Political people) that I totally trusted and Right now with Obama at the head of this Country we have way to much Government CONTROL for my taste!

BTW...what is he doing down away from the USA after sending our troops in Harms way....that upsets me!

This certainly has a ton of comments that I will read -- kinda like having a TON of PARTIES (he he Reb. Dem...OOPS now we have 5, I do believe).

Carol - Mad - Pink Mindy, Tierny -- loved your comments -


MmAway M (506)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:43 pm
Ummmm Gotta check on that comment Lisa...Who actually are the liars? Right = Left???

Thank you again Pink Mindy!!!

S B (1)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 4:43 pm
OH PUH-LEEZE! This links to someone's BLOG. It has even less authenticity than fox news. Not that I don't agree with the people who point-out that America is circling the drain, but it's not (just) Obama, the Right is what's actually killing this country. DO WE NOT SEE THAT REPUBS ARE BEHIND ALL THIS SLANDER AND CHOKING REALITY WITH THEIR "NEWS" PROGRAMS?!?!?!!?

Lisa W (13)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 5:00 pm
Good grief. Another idiotic ploy by the right to discredit Obama and make the ignorant more afraid of him, because he is different than them. The hysteria originates, it seems, with a February Department of Labor and Treasury Department request for comments on how 401(k) plans might be encouraged to offer annuities to 401(k) participants and how those participants might be persuaded to convert their 401(k) assets into a stream of lifetime income-in other words, how to put some of their retirement money into annuities.

Why would Obama and many financial experts be for this idea?
1. Annuities are the best way to insure that you don’t outlive your money in retirement. The classic annuity promises a check for life as long as you live;
2. Fixed annuities avoid the shock of stock market losses. The annuity provider promises to keep the checks coming regardless of the market’s ups or downs;
3. By locking up your money, an annuity protects you from grifters who prey on older seniors ;
4. As 401(k) sponsors offer group annuities to their employees, the costs will be lower and the payouts higher than if you bought an individual annuity yourself; and
5. Research shows that retirees who get a portion of their income from annuities are happier than other retirees.

So - NO, this is not a plot to do away with your 401(k) or to take it away from you. It's an idea to encourage people to invest in ANNUITIES instead, which would HELP THE PEOPLE, not WALL STREET. THIS is why the right is against them - because it does not benefit WALL STREET, WHOM THEY REPRESENT. The GOP does not represent YOU. They represent BIG BUSINESS.

The market is subject to ups and downs - this would keep your money stable and GET YOU MORE MONEY when you retire. There is no plot, people. This is another fantasy to scare you.

As for Obama's vacations, don't make me laugh. George Bush was the all-time record holder for the most time off of any president in US history! Obama usually does some work on the last day of his 3-day weekends, and plus he's working on his supposed days off. He is one of the most product, effective Presidents we've ever had. He had made more contributions to Middle Class America in his short time than Bush did in 8 years. In fact, he has created more jobs already than Bush did in 8 years. That's PRIVATE SECTOR jobs, not government jobs.

And he LOWERED YOUR TAXES. FACT: TAXES ARE THE LOWEST NOW SINCE THE 1950s. The GOP is NOT YOUR FRIEND. They openly represent big corporations, and they openly are against the American worker. They were elected to create jobs and fix the economy. What have they done? First of all, they voted to de-fund The Affordable Health Car Act - when Boehner was told that it would ADD to the deficit and cost 700,000 jobs by doing that, he said, "So be it." So, it is NOT about creating jobs or fixing the economy. What else have they done? Declared war on women. The GOP is about less government intrusion into our daily lives, which is theoretically why they oppose the Affordable Health Care Act - unless you have a uterus. Then, it belongs to the government. In state after state, they are proposing legislation to limit women's right to do with their bodies as they choose. Women, apparently, cannot be trusted with their OWN BODIES. Oh, and they also found time to hate on the gays, deny climate change, and re-define rape! Yeah, they have not taken that language out of that bill. They said they would, but they didn't. Rape is still defined as "forcible" so that children victims and date rapes, and drugged rapes don't count as "real rape."

Climate change is a "theory" like gravity is a theory. Suddenly, it's fashionable to deny science and American history! Ignorance is the IN thing to be, in this rightwing fright fest. GOP politicians like Palin and Huckabee actually believe that dinosaurs co-existed with man 6,000 years ago! OMG, these people are STUPID. There isn't even a scientific question about this stuff.

What else have they accomplished? Oh, they attacked American Muslims! Who, by the way, don't even come close to being responsible for most of the terror attacks in this country - those are overwhelmingly committed by rightwing extremist Christians. So all that did was give bin Laden ANOTHER recruiting tool. Fools. Some GOP idiot actually said, "All Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims." OK - all conservatives are not racists, but all racists are conservatives. How do you like that logic now?

Then they attacked Middle Class American workers. Now they attack Child Labor Laws! WAKE UP. They are coming for you, middle class. Don't let them fool you into fearing Obama with these lies and idiotic theories. It's complete hogwash. They won't rest until they take away all the progress we've made in the last 100 years. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, child labor, 40-hour work week, vacations, holidays, minimum wage, safe working conditions, safe drinking water, clean air to breathe, food safety, education, women's rights, veterans care, civil rights, it's all either under fire now, or it's going to be.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 5:16 pm
What is so funny is reading over all these comments - the only HATE I see is those coming from the "left" talking about those on the "right"....they always have to throw in there words of hate and stupid...cant seem to get anything written out without throwing insults to the the truth must really hurt those who voted for Obama and to see he isnt who he claims to be...

Pinky great article and I know you have more. You always know your winning with a liberal or "left" b/c they call you a racist or any other name.

Karen E. (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 5:23 pm
LISA W - Well written, well said. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:06 pm
"If you don't know by now that B.O hates America, if his not saluting our flag, canceling National Prayer Day, not protecting our country's borders, helping Brazil drill for oil that Soros owns while not allowing drilling here, appointing communist Tsars don't convince you"

This above Myke is written proof, though your apparently unaware as you write it, of your own ineptitude in evaluating information and your desire to let yourself be led as long as the leader feeds your hate and paranoia. All of it, and this post itself it laughable but not funny as it is evidence of why we can never improve our situation. Minds such as posted this and made the claims above are as a millstone around our necks. Full of mindless hate, hungry for inaccurate claims blaming everyone but the guilty parties.
Pink is fifth-nights minion, he lies and she swears to with a sneer knowing full well, its just hateful, baiting, claptrap. In my opinion there is something sociopathic about it, but I'm not qualified to make that call by degree.

The debt is high. No question about it. But its not our biggest problem. That one is how to get the debt down. And getting it down involves taxing more than cutting in the ready, fire, aim, method being used by the baggers now, but taxing the top 2% oh no. Many here seem to desire a full fledged depression, perhaps because they can't really imagine it. I am a believer in Keynesian economics, which helped lift us out of the first great Depression.

Keynes′ ideas influenced Franklin D. Roosevelt's view that insufficient buying-power caused the Depression. During his presidency, Roosevelt adopted some aspects of Keynesian economics, especially after 1937, when, in the depths of the Depression, the United States suffered from recession yet again following fiscal contraction. But to many the true success of Keynesian policy can be seen at the onset of World War II, which provided a kick to the world economy, removed uncertainty, and forced the rebuilding of destroyed capital. Keynesian ideas became almost official in social-democratic Europe after the war and in the U.S. in the 1960s.

Keynes′ theory suggested that active government policy could be effective in managing the economy. Rather than seeing unbalanced government budgets as wrong, Keynes advocated what has been called countercyclical fiscal policies, that is policies which acted against the tide of the business cycle: deficit spending when a nation's economy suffers from recession or when recovery is long-delayed and unemployment is persistently high—and the suppression of inflation in boom times by either increasing taxes or cutting back on government outlays. He argued that governments should solve problems in the short run rather than waiting for market forces to do it in the long run, because "in the long run, we are all dead."

Perhaps a discussion about the realities of its success make for a better more constructive conversation than the tabloid shouting of libelous rumor that this post entertains.

Lisa H (180)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:10 pm
Marilynn, I'm waiting.... Did you view the "proof video"??? ANY OF YOU THAT ARE SPOUTING THIS CRAP VIEW THE "PROOF", which says NOTHING OF THE KIND?!?!?! If you go back and view the whole speech, he is arguing AGAINST the Repuglicun plan to lose our Social Security in the stock market, there is nothing AT ALL about taking away anybody's IRA. What a LOAD OF CRAP! Carol, I'm ashamed of you too. I had given you credit for having a brain and checking your facts. Sorry I was wrong about that.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:33 pm
We've been waiting for years to continue the conversation. They always scatter like the rats they are. Nothing changes in a cult.


Boehner said you people have spoken and there will be no tax hikes on the rich and no cuts to oil company welfare ($30billion).

Did you say that? If not, why didn't you call him on it? It's really important.

"Businesses can no longer afford union worker."

And here we are. CEOs with billions and the middle class without a dream. Real cute.

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:43 pm
Carole D. , Who are you taking "your" country back from and what are your plans for it when you "get" it. Will YOUR country have any clean water left to drink or be simply under water like most homes are now economically thanks to your buddy Bush. If tax breaks for the rich were the answer and have been in force since Bush, why are we where we are? Where are the jobs? What trickle down? And you know what the Baggers are doing now right? After they got elected? They are pushing one social issue bill after another with an occasional ready, fire, aim, cut to programs and a concerted effort to break unions, and even ruin public broadcasting. Hip hip hooray, everything will be so much better without clear fact based reporting unbiased by Corporate control. But ideas for Job creation. Zip. Just more trickle down or as Bush one called it. Voodoo economics.

Lisa H (180)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:53 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Robert because you have done so within the last week
Story of my life lately Robert! Thanks for dropping by and summing things up so nicely! If you are not already an organizer for your Union, you should be.

H Nick H (1826)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:58 pm
There is a vast difference between facts and opinions. Facts are verifiable. Opinions are just subjective and personal. Opinions are like as_ho_s, everyone has one. But this opinion exress here is not fact, and people forget that. I checked to see if it is true, and it's not, but it is an opinion, which is part of our freedoms. Where it crosses the line is when it's spread as some kind of "truth". Therein lies the problem. And so much of what the right wing has to offer is just opinions.

But, I do have a question I would love to get an answer. This is directed to all those who favor republicans (the current batch). Here it is: PLEASE TELL ME AT LEAST ONE LAW THAT REPUBLICANS TRIED TO PASS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THE MAJORITY OF US CITIZENS......EVEN WITHIN THE LAST 40 YEARS???
Please let me know, I've been serching and haven't found anything to date. And I mean a law that would help just the 98% of Ameicans, not the very rich.

This kind of stuff on here just inflames people, and doesn't improve the situation in America. All along, even repulicans were yelling at Obama that we need jobs. Now that they are in the drivers seat, what have they done to promote jobs here......... I'll answer that one, NOTHING. All they have been doing is going after 4% of our national budget and forgetting the 800 pound gorilla in the room. (and please note, SS and medicare are NOT part of our national budget). Just look at your paychecks for evidence 3 parts are taken out.

Income tax, which goes towards the budget, SS which goes to SS, and Medicar which goes to ........yes, you got it, Medicare.

If you take time to make sure of the facts, then it makes you a better person. Not someone who shouts with passion and says nothing. Enjoy the coming week. WE need jobs!!!!! That's what all of our govenment needs to be working to acomplish.

Dotti L (85)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 6:59 pm
I am not going to comment here except to say that I whole heartedly agree with Jae - every one of his comments!!

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:08 pm
Marilynn M,

You say,
"Right now with Obama at the head of this Country we have way to much Government CONTROL for my taste!"

On what do you base this assertion? In what way does he have or use his power in ways that others have not? Is there any basis for your statement... or is it a repeated talking point meant to persuade those who are suspicious of government to start with, that Obama is somehow a bigger threat to us somehow and not just a blacker one, while Democrat and with a funny name?

Lisa H (180)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:09 pm
Then again, you are doing a fine job of organizing and motivating right here on C2. Thanks!

Mark H (44)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 7:14 pm

Ian Donelson (149)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:13 pm
For everyone out there who doesn't know how these things work. Your corporate pension not public pension because public pensions can't be touched by the stock market or investment bankers, but your PRIVATE pensions are put up and gambled on by the same people that your for, the Private investment bankers in this country. They gambled with your retirement and like in the case of the stock market crash we just went through sell your pensions account managers empty assets that were illegally rated as good investments but were essentially junk mortgages. Your pensions holders not the President or the Government but the people you trust to hold onto your money for you took the junk mortgage investments that were falsely rated as good investments and they bought them when the banks new very well that they were worthless. Then when the housing bubble popped and all these pension holders and investing houses were stuck with hollow loans they had nothing to show for it. This was all before the person who you are making stuff up about such as the lie that he is taking over private pension funds which is not only a lie but also illegal and completely impossible to do from his end our President he came in after the fact and saved your pensions by having the fed buy up all those toxic assets that the PRIVATE corporations illegally rated and sold to your pensions managers so that you could still have some pensions instead of none at all, it also prevented a lot of people from loosing their houses even though so many already have. Now to the de-Privatisation of this nation accusation based on nothing but complete ignorance considering the bills that are being introduced all over this country, such as The Bill to remove Child Labor Laws(by a Republican), or how about stripping unions and taxing the poor and giving it to the rich(by Republicans) or how about the bill in Michigan that allows the Governor to deem any public government such as a Mayor or City Hall, or Board of Education in a financial crisis to where he can appoint a Private person not elected by the people to come in and say screw democracy and then supersede and essentially fire all those elected officials and take over said town privately(You guessed it, A REPUBLICAN). All those sound like the Privatisation of America to me. What bill... What single bill has publicised anything? Anything? Not the Healthcare Reform, there is no single payer or public option so it can't be that. The only things that are left that ARE even public is Social Security and Medicare that Republicans are trying to make Private and that's it. So clearly you have no idea what your talking about your just ignorant children who are unhealthy to the point were your soul is blind and your egos have complete control over you body to only express fear and hatred with no logical understanding of the world around you. I pity you and hope that those of us who are really trying to change the world for the better have less of you to come across in our way while pushing for fairness and equality for the REAL freedom of present and future generations.

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:14 pm
The right is pushing fear siting the deficit as its catastrophe of the moment, using the shock doctrine in order to impose its Corporate Globalist agenda which is hurting this country they claim to love. These traitors have no nation, they are Capitalists first who simply want a cheep labor pool as they do in China, right here at home. Thats why when you call a help line you get the guy in India. That was not a high paying union job they shipped over seas. It was a low paying job done for even less overseas. The greed knows no bounds and if your paying attention it sends a message. This is not about whats best for America's people.. Its about whats best for Wall Street and the quarterly balance sheet which must always show more profit than the any cost without any other considerations. So we are being sold out. And the agenda now is to take our ability to fight. Not as the right would have us believe, as in they are coming to take our guns, but in killing off the only competition, and so by killing the unions, they get the Democrats. Check and mate. The race to the bottom begins in earnest with Corporate rule in place unchecked, unregulated and endlessly hungry for more. When the people chose the Baggers in this last election, Obama was forced to the right and things have gone so right already that Nixon would today be a moderate Dem. I hope you wingnuts like the world your helping to create with our blind self defeating votes. They have your numbers and when you vote your social issues, you serve the banks and poison your own well. Just sayin.

Michael Carney (217)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 8:58 pm
And I suppose, the rightwing/teabaggers are gonna fix everything, and make it all right again? LOLOLOLOL

Robert S (111)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:09 pm
Get up stand up!


Yvonne B (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:13 pm
wow! Look at all the trolls! (go back to Beck and create crap there instead)

catherine Buchanan (113)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:28 pm
you people do not seem to remember your history. the debt has nothing to do with a person who has been in office for less than one term. the outrageous debt began with reagan and bush senior and their insatiable lust for invading the countries of latin america and for wasting trillions of dollars on the "star wars" program that was defunct to begin with.

the second increase to the national debt has everything to do with the shrub, bush and war criminals inc, for the invasion of iraq to the tune of 5 billion dollars every month, the cutting of the estate taxes, the tax breaks for the rich, raiding the social security fund and the tax incentives given to multi billion dollar corporations to move their jobs out of the country and the bailouts with absolutely no accountability to where the money was going, of which, by the way, went to ceo's in the form of hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses and purchases of jets.

why in the world would i believe a 2 minute video clip of which i have no idea to what the context of that one little sentence pertains to? do you believe everyone to be that gullible? and then the only way you will watch video #2 for the real proof, is if you fill out your personal information to sign up for their stock advice which is nothing but an advertisement? this is absolute joke! whoever posted this, how much stock do you own in the company who is promoting this bullshit??

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 9:36 pm
noted and shared

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 10:14 pm
There is no later, only now! Please sign this petition on Care 2:

Linda G (187)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 10:20 pm
I find it hard to believe that people get all up in arms about Obama based on an individual's blog. Where are the factual sources. It seems that if people want to believe something bad about someone, they will do so regardless of facts and that applies not only to those who hate Obama but to those who hated GW Bush. While the internet is a wonderful tool for research and communication, it is also a harmful tool for spreading misinformation and lies.
I do wish we could find a way to get past the extremes, come together and find solutions to the real problems that beset us... not ones that are just made up to distract and divide us. We are a better country than this.

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 10:34 pm
The Tea Party, The Mad Hatter, A Boxing Rat and A Pink Fairy! My God, this must be the new "Alice In Wonderland!"

Charlene Rush (2)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 10:34 pm

This is some of the most absurd 'bull' I have ever read.
Anyone who believes that garbage, isn't playing with a full deck.
Faux news has a reputation for distorting the truth, and this is a perfect example.
Anyone who 'chooses' to find this information credible, has absolutely, no idea, how this country has been taken over by a facist mentality.

It is, indeed, the Tea Party Republicans who want MORE government intervention. They want to restrict your freedoms and liberties.

I have a news flash for some of you. President Obama WILL be re-elected, you can be certain.

Patricia N (9)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 10:40 pm
Just watched this two second video which was posted on an advertisement for stocks or gold buying or something. Why is everyone carrying on so much about a few words taken out of a speech by Obama and posted on an advertisement which is trying to get people to use or invest in their service. Anyone with a brain would want to hear the whole speech before making a decision about what Obama was talking about.


Ray M (0)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:10 pm
More idiotic lies from the right wing nuts. There is no end to their jealously and hate.

Lisa W (13)
Sunday March 20, 2011, 11:12 pm
@Robert S.: You are so right about the Shock Doctrine. My son educated me about that and I have read a couple of articles about it. It sounds exactly like what is going on right now with the GOP. It is scary, scary stuff.

I truly do not understand why people are willing to vote for a party that, again and again, has mismanaged the economy, not created jobs, added to the deficit, raised taxes, and done everything in its power to help big money corporations AT THE EXPENSE of Middle Class Working America. Why on EARTH?! do they fall for this crap? It's so illogical, so backwards! Over and over, they say the answer is to cut taxes - and over and over, it fails to work. It didn't work for Reagan, who had to admit defeat and actually raised taxes about 10 times while in office. It didn't work for Bush, look at the huge mess he made by cutting taxes and deregulating everything. Wall Street naturally took advantage of that and screwed our entire economy!

I think it's foolish and crazy to trust corporations by deregulating them. They've already PROVEN that they will, indeed, pollute the air, water, and land. They've already PROVEN that they'll rig the markets and crash the stock market and the entire US economy! They will poison us, as they have in the past. The only thing between us and them is the EPA, which the GOP wants to abolish! What other answer is there except that they serve big money corporations at the expense of the health and welfare of the people of this country? What other reason could they have to speak out against food safety, for godsakes?! Against child labor laws?! What kind of people do you think you're dealing with? They're immoral. It's all part of their plan. I consider the Koch Brothers to be genuinely evil people who are leading the ignorant masses to their own destruction. How jolly!

And these sad people are afraid of Obama, who's fighting for them every day?! They have no concept of who they should be afraid of. If the Teapublicans have their way, we'll go backwards in time 100 years, when nobody had any rights, except for the wealthy. That's certainly the direction they're headed. WAKE UP, FOLKS!

H Nick H (1826)
Monday March 21, 2011, 12:43 am
This was shared with me, and I"m doing so here. It's the truth, sadly.



You didn't get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had inadequate care and no health insurance.

You didn't get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.

You didn't get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.

You didn't get mad when GOP Joe Barton (rep. Texas) apologized to BP for BP having to pay people that were affected, displaced by the oil spill .

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.

You didn't get mad that at the end of the BUSH presidency we were loosing 750 000 jobs a MONTH ( month of feb. 2011, we gained 200 000 non farm jobs under President Obama. Source: US dept. of labor )

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq .

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people!!!!

You didn't get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when as a result of of the reckless BUSH adm. harm done to the country is so massive , we migth never be able to recover from this one...

No.....You finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick!...


Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 12:53 am
Good Nick, I think this is a good place for that. Some here on this silly ignorant post need to see it.

Georgia L (209)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:31 am
This video came from a site trying to scare people into buying gold. HAHAHAHA
Better to vote republican and lose your 401K in the boom bust cycle the corporations play.

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:46 am
What I want to know is why somebody as criminally gullible as Pink Mindy is posting this nonsense here. I had respect for Care2 before this. Seriously. But both and demolished this ridiculous claim back in 2008. Why are we being treated to it again on the basis of the self-interested claims of a gold and silver investment service? gave this a "Pants on Fire" put a stake in it here:

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:00 am
I think the answer is, that this group of wingnuts found a stupid picture they wanted to post and any dumb debunked nonsense would do so they could get their jollies by baiting and taunting. Their motive is not to inform. So they got that part right.

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:09 am
That's as good an explanation as any, Robert. What I find truly shocking is the sheer number of these people willing to jump up and pick up the battle cry without making even an attempt to use their brains, or the computer in front of them to Google the claim while using seventh-grade level taunts to try to shout down anybody who does. I'm disgusted.

William Y (54)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:11 am
@Robert S & Jae A. you are right (correct) as usual. Unfortunately those that refer to themselves as right (supposed conservatives), aren't.

Linda h (86)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:47 am
I hope you all understand that you are only talking to Hans/SFpaul / Paul here. go green and pink mindy ect. are all the same person. He/she/it was caught last week. care2 must want the money to let this go on. If enough people keep asking them to do something about it we may be left with only a handful of nuts around here. In NY they just sent a man to jail for pretending to be someone else on the internet. I don't understand why this is allowed to go on unchecked. It's morally bankrupt.

Brenda Towers (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 3:56 am

Mary Danforrh (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 4:46 am
I won't waste my time remarking on PINKYMINDY'S idiotic right wing crap. AwayJaeA has pretty much said it all. Thank you foe being a voice of reason AwayJaeA

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 5:29 am
Wow those who just ruined this thread, great job...hope you are all proud of yourselves...EVERY comment from those who oppose this thread had at least TWO nasty hateful racist things to say about those who dont oppose it.......YET no one who does not OPPOSE this thread NEVER ONCE had anything hateful, nasty or racist to say........How sad that some can't seem to get their point across without such hate...Great Job Everyone...Great Job - instead of posting facts you had to take it to the lowest level possible...

Instead of standing together to make OUR Country better - you had to rip it to shreds, tear it down with your hate...Great Job, thats whats wrong with America today...Everyone has to be right - no one wants to compromise for the better of Americans - that is the downfall of America......

Those Politicians work for US - not the other way around. If we dont like them, we can fire them...Send letters to them and remind them THEY work for us...BUT no, lets come to care2 and throw around hate - that will get you somewhere.

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 5:34 am
Gosh, Kat, sorry for posting two links full of facts refuting the nonsense PinkMindy posted here. I'll just do what conservatives like doing and make things up next time. Will that make you happier? The hate here, ALL of it, comes from the nasty post PinkMindy linked to here.

It's interesting how, if anyone opposes these messages of hate, they're the haters. For example, anyone who disagrees with Sarah Palin or points out what she said was incredibly ignorant is suddenly a Palin-hater. Calling out the lies in this post make us haters. Sorry, Kat, turning the blame around isn't going to wash.

Lloyd H (46)
Monday March 21, 2011, 5:43 am
Well, the Super Full Moon certainly brought out a bumper crop of Lying Lunatic Reich-wing Talking Point Parrot manure spreaders! One, Jackass Joe Blogger spews pure politicking lies and the flies gather for the feast believing every piece that they are fed, no questions ask of facts checked.
GET ONE THING CORRECT YOU LYING MORONS; PRIVATIZATION AND DEREGULATION ARE NOW, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE HOLY GRAIL OF THE REPUGNICAN PARTY BECAUSE PRIVATIZATION AND DEREGULATION PROFIT CORPORATIONS, THE TOP 2%OF AMERICANS WHO OWN AND RUN THEM WHO BUY ELECTIONS FOR REPUGNICANS AND NOW THEIR ILLEGITIMATE CHILDREN THE TEA BAGGED. The Repugs have hated and fought Social Security and Medicare from the beginning because they are designed to help the small people of the lower 98% of Americans. Privatization and deregulation benefit Wall Street and Big Banks as they give both more, of what little they do not already control, of the lower 98%'s money to Gamble with without any of the risk. If they win their bets most of the profits go to them in fees and bonuses and 15-20% go to the unwilling investors, if they lose all of the loss is covered by the losers and the rest of the lower 98% and they still get big salaries and big bonuses, JUST EXACTLY LIKE 2008 WHEN 6+ YEARS OF REPUG DEREGULATION AND PRIVATIZATION WAS GAMBLED AND LOST, THE BANKERS AND WALL STREET GET BAILED OUT, REMEMBER REPUGS HELPED WRITE THE LAW AND A REPUG PRESIDENT SIGNED IT, MAKE HUGE PROFITS AND GREAT BIG BONUSES FOR LOOSING ALL THE MONEY AND FLUSHING THE AMERICAN ECONOMY DOWN THE SEWER.
And now as usual the Repug/Tea Baggers and their lying sycophants are trying to shift the blame on to Obama and the Dems because they are actually trying to clean up the steaming piles of elephant shit and get the economy and American workers working again. And the Repugs are doing everything they can to be sure that nothing gets better because politically they are betting that America and American workers in the crapper are better for their chances in the 2012 elections. Since Eisenhower in the 1950s Repugs have never governed for the majority of Americans or America they only govern for Corporations and the top 2% of Americans that own and run them. Now with Citizens United legalizing the wholesale buying of elections for Corporatist Repug/Tea Bagged politicians and the slimy use of 'disaster capitalism', the fake economic disasters used in MI, MN,OH, IL, etc,they have created the disasters by giving Corporations massive tax cuts red lining surplues and ballooning deficts to make them worse and they are doing everything to benefit corporations and destroy Unions, because under Citizens United only Corporations and Unions are allowed unlimited spending and only Unions spend for Democrats. Nice way to buy a permanent Repugnican Corporatist majorities in legislatures, State and Federal, and in the ALL THE COURTS State and Federal, remember All judges and magistrates are either elected or appointed by those who win elections.
Remember also that in the last 50 years the lying hypocrits of Fiscal Responsiblity have never when in control of Government done anything except increase the size and cost of government and balloon the defict, absolutely never. And in that time the only ones that benefited from their corporatist ideology were the corporations and the top 2%, in the last 50 years the income for the top 2% has increased by 250% and the income for the lower 98% has dropped 20%, under the proposed Repug budget the top 2% will pay essential nothing in taxes and those making between 40-200,000 will pay 23% more in taxes.
Personally, I think you need to go back on your meds, crawl back under your meadow muffins and quit spewing lies and hate for your Corproate masters.

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 6:12 am
Steven you missed my point completely.............You can post facts to oppose anything but once anyone starts to post hate, racism and everything else that has been posted to oppose something you loose creditability...

For Example: from Lloyd H "Lying Lunatic Reich-wing Talking Point Parrot manure spreaders! One, Jackass Joe Blogger"......NOW was that necessary b/c once I read that I didnt even bother to read anything else he stated and he could have made a really valid point but ONCE he started with HIS HATE I ingorned it...same as with every other post on this thread - start it out with HATE and IGNORNANCE then it gets ignored and your POINT doesnt get across at all.

Its really sad...really, really sad and shameful..........Not sure how anyone looks at themselves in the mirror and feels good about the hate they sprew.

Jae A (316)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:00 am
Calling a liar a liar is not hate Kat H. It's time we really get on with fighting fire with fire if the rightwing nut supporters are to be shown what out right liars and misinformed group that they are. Our democracy and way of life in general is being stripped from us by the ignorant liars of the GOP/Republican/Neocon party. Enough is enough and it's not a time to be civil when the rightwing liars start posting their B.S. like this mindless clip on someones blog . A Jackass is a Jackass by any name Kat....politics is not a pretty business nor discussion when liars are defending B.S. for the sake of fear mongering for more ignorant supporters to follow them.

As to Facts...the GOP..especially their Tea Bagger/White Supremist/Skin Head supporters DON'T NEED NO STICK'n FACTS.

William Harmon (11)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:09 am
This has the stench of Tea Bagger BS all over it.If you believe it,you better start digging a hole.Could this person be a Glenn Beck Apostle?Definitely another Right Wing ploy to get us to beg them to save us.

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:20 am
"Not sure how anyone looks at themselves in the mirror and feels good about the hate they spew."... when making this post of totally debunked bull.

I felt compelled to finish your sentence, making of it a truth.

Notice ladies and gentlemen how Kat finds a way to avoid addressing all that she opposes by claiming its the fault of others that her head remains firmly in the sand. And if we would just address stupidity nicely, she would listen. Don't believe it for a minute. It is just more changing of the subject by an obvious advocate of the sort of mindless manure we see from those who posted this.


Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:43 am
Well said, Robert and yes, that's the typical tactic and why dialogue with these people is all but impossible.

AwayJae, I agree entirely. One problem liberals have had is being too tolerant of intolerance. Perfect tolerance is impossible because tolerance of intolerance is self-defeating; intolerance inevitably triumphs.

MmAway M (506)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:46 am
Sorry Guys, was not online -- had other IMPORTANT PERSONAL LIFE issues...Now Lisa, Nope haven't had a chance to view your video and Robert S. as far as the Government NOW having more control over the USA it is a fact...

Not until Obama came into power did the Health Insurance get the OVER HAUL and sadly priced those people that were trying to pay for Healh Insurance right out of the Market, as well as small business and some larger Corporations...

Also, Becides Big brother looking over our shoulder and listening into our phone calls, now Obama wants to have total control over the Internet. I do know in the case of a Disaster, No one that has a safe deposit box will anymore -- Locked up (read this awhile back) dig a hole in your backyard for what papers you want to keep.

That being said, I was stating my opinion not stating that another person does not have a right to THEIR OWN personal opinion (even if I don't agree with it)....And, I would never try to change someone's MIND into my Way of thinking.

As far as "YOU RIGHT WINGERS, etc" I am not Stating YOU Lefties~~~.

Now, sure if you hate the article I am sure I could look up some of the articles that some of you have written and may agree, but wouldn't tell you YOUR WRONG, YOUR WRONG....

It is so much better to see what is going on...and I will leave it like that!

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:48 am
Robert S you are so far from the truth its sad...laughable actually. I never once said it was the fault of others...

What I am saying is try and talk without insults and maybe just maybe your point will get across to more people.......

I never once said I agree or disagree with what this article is about...I have read both sides and I see both sides and I agree with points from both sides...but points from those opposing the article would be better taken if it wasnt filled with such insults.

NoFwds AwayJae A. - thanks for proving my point...every other word was hate towards the right - you say its not but it sure comes across as such...It comes across that you can't stand to believe anything the right has to say YET those on the right have to lay down and take whatever YOU or those on the left have to say...........oh and I didnt see where you posted any articles against what this thread is why should I believe your word?

MmAway M (506)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:51 am
Stating that Bush borrow more than any other president is NOW wrong, I am sure OBAMA has the PRIZE ON THAT ONE! "Mindless Manure" etc. etc...well, enough said by me because attacks on someone here on Care2 I don't think are in the Code of Conduct!

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:55 am
Robert S - I looked back also to all of your posts - except for one that gives another man's opinion you have not given any other articles of proof that this thread is not why should I believe you?

Arielle S (313)
Monday March 21, 2011, 8:01 am
Whoever would have thought there were so many Faux News fans here? Our troubles started with Reaganomics - if the sky is falling, that's where to put the blame. Of course, then George did his part to make the world more miserable - so now you want to blame Obama? Come on, be fair....

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 8:04 am
Well, I offered proof from 2008, Kat, that this article is false and a lie and you have not addressed those points, only calling us all haters, so why should anyone listen to you until you refute the evidence that this is all a sham?

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Monday March 21, 2011, 8:23 am
Obama and Bush .... Can't Seem To Be Able To Tell Any Real Difference .... Same of the Same .... NO CHANGE!!!


The Left just wants everyone to ignore the Obama Administration's massive failure rating and The Actual Obama Report Card to date!

"Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Projects 2011 Federal Budget Deficit To Reach $1.3-$1.5 Trillion, Highest Record Level" - @ CBO


"Where are the Jobs? The Parallels between Today and the Great Depression" - @ Youtube

"Remind President Obama Create Jobs By Rebuilding The American Infrastructure As Promised During Campaign 2008" - Petition via

401K's & IRA's?????


"Obama Nation Plans to Steal Your (401k) Retirement Money" - @ Youtube

Let's Bomb Libya Some More?????

"Obama Bombs Libya To Secure Third Largest Oil Reserves" - Youtube Video - @ Care2 News

GO GREEN 3RD PARTY IN 2012!!!!!!!!!

GO GREEN 3RD PARTY PIRATES!!! - @ Care2 Groups

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 8:38 am
Steven I never once called you or anyone else a hater. I just now was able to read the two articles you provided...Thank You for posting it but when you started off by saying "criminally gullible as Pink Mindy " that makes me not want to read anymore of what you have to say...Insults dont go very far when your trying to get a point across.

I read both and I see both sides - again it comes down to which side you believe...I hope its not true but I guess in a couple of years we will all find out...

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:10 am
Kat, I'm not going to apologize for calling Mindy criminally gullible. Anyone who sits in front of a computer has access to sources to check articles they read. Any responsible person would do so before passing on two-year-old propaganda on behalf of a silver and gold investment firm. I have to call a spade a spade here, and Mindy and anyone else (and I include all the various forms Mindy apparently takes here) are criminally gullible.

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:16 am
Care2 Bullies Do Not Scare Nor Offend Me with their borderline slanderous agendas!

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:20 am
BRAVOOOO PinkMindy .....BRAVO!

79 Notes, 22 Facebook Likes, and 149 HOT!!! Comments .....

Must be something going on here!!!!

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:28 am
Mindy and her worshiper/acolyte Mad Hatter seem to think the facts are abusive, nor are facts considered slander. What you SHOULD be doing is apologizing for passing on false information as though it were true, when that truth content could be easily checked and proven false. What you ought to be doing is learning that lying has consequences, rather than blaming everybody else for your shortcomings.

MAD HATTA TenSix (46)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:42 am
.... And there are those who walk among us that would much rather prefer death or at least to suffer endless and hideous punishment first, before admitting President Obama is nothing more than a failing political PUPPET with NO FUTURE ROAD!

It is over.

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:49 am
Good gods, Mad Hatter, is that the best you can do? You can't address the facts, the obvious lies you fell for without checking? You're as guilty as Mindy and you ought to be apologizing too. I look at the Care2 newsletter for actual news and was utterly stunned to see this previously refuted propaganda presented as actual news. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Oh, and I'm waiting for your apology too for wasting all our time.

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:49 am
Oh, and stop insulting Johnny Depp by using his image. He at least was only pretending to be crazy.

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 10:18 am

MmAway M (506)
Monday March 21, 2011, 10:48 am
Kat H...Ditto, and guys not going to track this insanity anymore...Totally off the topic

Kit B (276)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:14 am

I'm not sure why all this "noise" over a silly blog. It was poorly constructed, offered no facts and no the videos are not facts, it's one persons opinion. If it was meant to stoke more fires of divisiveness and mutual distrust then it would seem successful. Otherwise, not really worth the effort. Is this meant to lead some where? There is a lot of talk about privatization these days. Sir Robert perhaps to be fair to your reading audience you might go back, explain what 401k's were originally all about, how seriously they have been abused by hedge fund owners and even look at the actual statistics on their overall success. Just saying.....

Susanne R (235)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:16 am
Mad Hatter stated:

"BRAVOOOO PinkMindy .....BRAVO!

79 Notes, 22 Facebook Likes, and 149 HOT!!! Comments .....

Must be something going on here!!!!

Yes, there is something going on here. It's called "people believing what they want to believe," even if what they want to believe is fabricated garbage. This ridiculous submission, that you and others have raised to the level of "a wondrous revelation," is a joke. If you weren't able to determine that by the picture that accompanies the article (if it deserve to be called an article), than you might want to think twice about posting comments. You might also want to consider a looser-fitting hat.

Your hate for our President is evident, but if you're going to insult him, you really need to use information that has some basis in fact.

Deborah L (70)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:30 am
To those who think that Social Security elimination, look no further that he RepubliCONS. They are the ones who want to privatize everything. They are the ones who have given the rich more money at the expense of the working people. O am not thrilled with the performance of Obama, however, I prefer that to McCain and his senility and complete contradiction of what he said only moments earlier. He has voted against the minimum wade increase every time since he was in office claiming that it would mean less jobs, but taking money and giving it to the rich like himself had not made jobs in this country and he even thinks that Ipads are made here and not in China. He also continues to vote against a woman's right to control her own body. And his running mate Sarah. If John had won, she would have made short work of him in a heartbeat and we all saw what a bang up job she did in Alaska, how long do you think she would be in office after really getting the U.S. involved with more wars with Russia over the Georgia dispute and don't forget about Iran and this weekend her bad mouthing the President, fellow repugs and even China?

The repugs have put up roadblocks every step of the way in anything that Obama tries to do. Place the blame where it belongs. At the doorstop of the repugs. And G.W. who ran up this debt and failed to show it on with the real debt, took over 3 1/2 years out of 8 as prez and went on vacation, mostly at his ranch in Crawford. Even after Katrina, G.W. was out on his ranch cutting up sagebrush with a chainsaw. He could have accomplished more by heading out to Louisiana with that chainsaw and started to cut up debris instead.

Yes, this is no doubt the end of the American way of life, but put the real blame where it belongs. To the party that sold us out to the MIC, mega corporations and the privatizing of everything. And for the person paying 890/mt for medical insurance, you can thank G.W. and the repugs who have eliminated almost all the watchdogs and rules and regulations on these companies to do as they please4 and they did.They raised their rates so high most people cannot afford it. Now when the southern politicos get done taking the minimum wage to less than $2 an hour as Mitch McConnell is trying along with all the union busting Rep. Gov's in the past month. Look back in the mirror and you can say, "I did that."

Steven Todd (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:30 am
I agree Susanne. This was really nothing more than one of those hysterically-toned chain letters conservatives like to send around and clutter our email boxes with, replete with the same big red bold-faced font the emails have. He cut and pasted it into his blog, for all I know. It certainly looked that way.

Cindy Lindh (3)
Monday March 21, 2011, 12:15 pm
Am shocked and disappointed that Care2 would print such misinformation. Their credibility has fallen from grace.

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 12:47 pm
Mindless Manure. Thats what it is. Can't handle the truth? then be gone.

Wagging that finger of disaproval is silly drival Kate, You deny, evade and you lie by omission, as any but the numb would notice that though i personally did not post it, proof enough has been given by a reputable source which of course, you claim is somehow jaded. Of course it its the only arguement you have. We however watch and appraise, and factcheck checking cuts both ways therfor making of your arguement a farce and as you say...laughable really.

Kat again, you say, "I agree with points from both sides" The post itself has no sides. It has one point of view, but simply repeats a old and debunked lie. Where it the point of view.
Kindly give an example of each, one side and the other of the points of view, as I call no name here, and give you no excuse to ignore the question. Just one, from each side, or do you make this claim so as to give the impression of fair mindedness where non on your part exists?

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 12:50 pm
How sad that no one can respond without insults all the way down to wanting someone to drive off a bridge...and we wonder whats wrong with America: here you go, this is whats wrong with America, just read over the nasty vile comments........everyone could have taken this in a different direction but they chose not to...sad.

Guess the saying of "you know your winning against a liberal when they resort to insults and name calling" is so true - just read here...

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:06 pm
More hot air. If you can't defend your message, to cry about how the others deliver theirs. Slight of hand but, not effective when your audience pays attention. The direction you chose is off the topic, to how the topic is spoken about, and you dwell there, with nothing more to offer. Shame shame more of the same wagging the finger like a dog wags its tail. Dry up. Your all wet.

Andrea Connelly (94)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:44 pm
Lisa W. THANK YOU! A wise and well informed commentator, unlike, unfortunately, the misinformed, ignorant members with their so obvious hidden, well, not so hidden agendas.

Ruby S (44)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:45 pm
I want the Government to just take me...It has all of the money and programs that I can work further my career and where I want to go in my life, and I will fight tooth and nail for that.... .Broke??? has anyone looked at all of the programs out there???The Republicans always lie about this country is broke, did it ever occur to anyone that Bush almost sold our ports, that would really been the end, if Congress hadn't stepped in and that was at he end of his term, and he was going to put that in his pocket as well...LOL..I am moving forward, but I got my eyes wide open...YES!!!!! If they can print it I got it...MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!!!!!LET"S GO-OOOO!!!!

Ruby S (44)
Monday March 21, 2011, 1:57 pm
No matter what the liars say....this world is mine and I am never afraid of anything...especially another female who has nothing to do but interfere in my life...or a lying politician and a lying man, or female who doesn't know their backside from their front, who would lie to get their way, no home training to get along with your neighbor. who is so greedy and selfish that they have totally become the Devil's Disciples.... and that doesn't sadden me..I am happy for them too, just don't invade my space...See Ya and I wouldn't wanna be ya....

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:02 pm
Wow, just dropped back in. What a firestorm this little tidbit ignited. Do you suppose PinkMindy or whoever they are, is not thrilled drawing attention off other issues directed at eating our lunch.

Andrea Connelly (94)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:04 pm
Hansel and pink mindy??? Not Hansel and Gretel??! I feel deceived.

Rolland Nadjiwon (6)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:36 pm
You mean you didn't realize Western civilization as we have known it is long past collapse according to history and is now in the throes of 'knee jerking' denial and decline....unless someone has another or better analysis...?

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 2:39 pm
That's not it, KAT H. It's the decades long culture of a corporate owned media, the tons of misinformation that promotes fascism and the ongoing culture of lazy people that go along for their ride to hell.
It IS personal. Don't get me wrong. You right winger supporters that don't know right from wrong if it took your wallet, I hold directly responsible for the mess the republicans got us in, along with the fascist politicians you re elected. If any one is coming across with "nasty vile comments", it's because you all deserve every last one of them and more for what you did to us. We've tried to be nicer in the past but those days are long gone. It's time to call you out. Why won't you answer? Because you're all unsure of yourselves. Why? Because you have no idea what's been going on. This is it. You're all on notice. No more mister nice guy. If you don't start caring about the future of the people and their country, we'll have to split the country in half and send you all to live with the fascists. We CAN'T live with you or them any more.

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 4:02 pm
I am appalled that anyone would accuse Hans of playing with himself.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Monday March 21, 2011, 4:09 pm
kat h, since you are talking about facts, where are your facts? so far, i haven't seen any from you. the less than 2 minute video clip does not state any fact. and a person can't get to the second video unless they sign up for a stock deal. what kind of b.s. is that? so, if you want us to believe your position on the issue, i think it's high time you provided some facts.

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 4:11 pm
whats so funny is that Jason and Robert think they know me and have me all figured wrong both of you boys are......Robert when I posted above about both sides I read the articles that Steven provided since NO ONE else did - including Jason and Robert...all they have done is sprew their hate for anyone who disagrees with them and who may be "right"......boys will be boys.....its a lost cause to try and tell them anything b/c its their way or no way so I chose my way and that is off of this hate filled thread.

and for those who say its upsetting that care2 would allow such a thread - re-read the hate being thrown around by those on the "left" - how is that any different...oh jeez, please dont answer...

Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 4:26 pm
catherine - this isnt my thread - I dont have to prove anything to you.....I wasnt speaking of facts.......dont jump on everyone's band wagon - that looks so funny! LOL


Past Member (0)
Monday March 21, 2011, 5:12 pm
It's not that either, Kat. You people filled our hearts with hate that we didn't want. You raped the country that is all of ours. You allowed fascism to take our country, Now you and I are broke. Every one! STFU and quit voting. You right wing idiots piss me off so bad!

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:05 pm
Let me get this straight. You're upset that apparently 401k's will be taken out of the volitile stock market that saw people losing much of their retirement just a few years ago, and getting put BACK into a stable government hand?

Neo-con bizarro world gets more odd by the minute!

Sir Walk F (124)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:08 pm
Also, if anyone wants a trip down Glen Beck-esque paranoid ramblings masquerading as "News", just visit "Pink Mindy's" submitted "news" here:

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:26 pm
Though I do appreciate the gesture, SW, no. I'd rather not. We know what has been playing every day for years, we just wish they would stop deluding themselves that we had no capacity to learn, and that this game was still new to anyone.


Audrey L (37)
Monday March 21, 2011, 7:29 pm
Wow I just stepped in to the world of crazy mad hatters and pink mindys, I am now stepping out in to the sane world. Now I understand what brainwashing is, fox has really done a number on them.

Michael Carney (217)
Monday March 21, 2011, 8:29 pm
Man, it's amazing how easy it is to tell those who watch Fox News for their daily Brain Washing...They all say the same thing...Just wait till Fox tells them that Obama was the shooter on the grassy knoll, we'll be reading Obama was the guy who killed Kennedy...Jae, thanks for the Star, and Robert, and so many others, it's my turn to say Bravo...Yikes those people to the right of me are so scary...

catherine Buchanan (113)
Monday March 21, 2011, 9:34 pm
kat h, putting the responsibility on someone else's shoulders? "this isn't my thread". who cares if this isn't your thread. you are accusing others of deliberately ignoring the "facts", therefore, i am asking you for the "facts" that you are speaking about. if you don't have any facts to support your position, then maybe you should just be quiet. it's always better for others to assume you to be a fool, than to open your mouth and actually prove them right.

Robert S (111)
Monday March 21, 2011, 10:02 pm
Yes Catherine, don't speak about facts to Kate, she hates that. And you have to be sweet or she just can't stop talking about how shameful it is, and we are so ill with hearing it we beg you, don't describe her idiocy by naming it, or be mean to those who foster and spread hurtful lies by treating them in harsh terms which reflect reality... Really, she's fragile. Pink knows what it is however and enjoys being Pink. Thick skin, thicker skull.

Susanne R (235)
Monday March 21, 2011, 10:26 pm
If anyone would like to view the ACTUAL videotape of President Obama addressing the issue of privatization of Social Security in response to Republican leaders who were pushing to make privatizing Social Security a key part of their legislative agenda if they won a majority in Congress in the fall of 2010, please copy and paste the following link into your browser: It will take you to MSNBC's website, not the Fifth Knight's blog. While you're on the site, please check out the comments. You'll notice that the hate comng from the right is blatant. Commentors on the right went so far as to collapse comments by those on the left --not because they were offensive or inflammatory-- but because they were true!

To Pink Mindy and Mad Hatter: why would you post this information, when it's an obvious lie? Your names are all over the Fifth Knight's blog site. And you encourage people to spread this lie all over the internet! It's called slander. And it's punishable by law. And Kat H. (who doesn't have to prove anything) doesn't this make you feel just a bit foolish? You knew where the hate was coming from. It seems to me that you're not as "neutral" as you would like us to believe.

Ruby S (44)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:35 pm
Ms Kat, what seems to be the problem, make up your mind...doesn't seem that you know what the hell you're talking about, you seem like one of those spoiled, hold my hand, how could you do that to me kind...LOL Get over yourself, you need to rev up a speech of your own instead of trying to tell someone else how to "word" their words, girl, what's your stick...I am suspicious here of you, you're driveling, suck it up...and I don't know what those closet queens are talking about,,IE: mork mindy and flaming mad hatter, this girl or whatever it is is a ditz...LOL..she doesn't know people, someone somewhere is going to chew it up and spit it out...meaning it/her/him....LOL..GO AWAY, you shouldn't be here with sane I say, you ready for a mind blowing situation...ain't no doormats on here, save a couple of women who are probably are trying to get sympathy or a boyfriend..LMAO...

Ruby S (44)
Monday March 21, 2011, 11:43 pm
I don't need to read anything..I got ears to hear, eyes to see, and a heart that God speaks to. What ever you do... get wisdom and understanding.... My faith is not in MAN...But In God I Trust....

Sandra T (126)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 1:51 am
Jae, lots of green stars to you.......and I have a confession to make, I misinterpreted the "mad" mad hatters first comment and accidently send him a star, just in case he ever tries to use this agaist me. English is not my first language, so sometimes I jump to quick on something I read.

I would also like to make a quick comment to Carol, and I will say this publicly, because people might have seen her on my friends list previously, and I want them to know why she is not there anymore. Carol, you stated in of your posts that " there are no good muslims" and maybe you didn't realize that I am one of them. I am really saddened by your lack of logic and integrity as this comes as a total surprise to me. You appeared a fair and compassionate person, and I very much enjoyed communicating with you.

I can now also see why you tried to convince me how bad the unions are for the States; this is propaganda for the form of politics you wish to spread, the racist, warmongering government you unfortunately support, that kills innocent people in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. Can you really not see that this form of governance will ultmately lead to your own destruction as well?! It 's just a matter of time.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 4:56 am
All of ya'll who think you have me pegged cant be farther from the truth...Read what you want - I didnt ask for facts...All I simply stated is that 2 people no this thread posted articles that debunked the original...nobody else did that and still dont...You cant come on a thread and say its wrong, its false without backing it up...again only 2 people did that EVERYONE ELSE did nothing but spread their hate and racism.

Jason who is "you people"...YOU DONT KNOW ME...Oh and to those who think I watch FOX news making those comments are just plain silly and childish.

Again winning an argument with liberals is when they call you names - so thanks, I'll take my win.

Ruby you cant follow up an insult with LOL...there is nothing lots of love or lots of laughs about an insult...but its cool, I am thick skinned, if it makes you feel better to throw your insults, so be it. But it sure would be nice to have a conversation with grown ups not high schoolers.

wooddragon xx (88)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 5:01 am
Hello, I just wanted to add, I would love to have given stars to Jae, Jason, Robert, Nick, etc on this thread. However I cannot do so because I have to wait a whole freaking week! My comment follows on from what Sandra has written.

Carol, I thought you were a really nice person especially when you helped me with Dusty’s problem. I t really made me smile and I truly thought you a ‘good old bird’. However, now I know the real you and I find it an absolute disgrace that you could write such a thing. You have truly hurt a wonderful person and someone I call a friend, not a cyber friend, a true friend. You have brought shame on C2 with those words and I cannot fathom the hatred you feel towards a Nation of Human Beings. Your feelings should be towards the asshole governments and the Jihadist/extremists not the good people you decided to address with your hateful words. Life is too short to harbour such hatred .All I can add, is that I hope one day you come to your senses and become an enlightened one, a person that can speak from their heart and of peace in the world and not this vile, insipid hatred. May your soul be enlightened and open to all Humanity after reading these words and by being confronted by your own hateful words...

To everyone here; this is the comment Carol D wrote:

Carol left a comment on the following article:

"Radical Islam" Hearings -- The Latest Updates

First of all that Keith Ellison crying jag is the biggest phoniest bunch of BS I have ever seen!! Second of all.. all of these lies about Muslims being good and wanting nothing but goodness to the world is so full of BS it makes my head spin. Do you people really think we are going to believe what you're saying is anything other than a lie!? First off, even ONE death under the name of Islam is too many! It is a contradiction right there that says your religion is all good....notta..nope...zilch...and on top of that if there were Muslims that would outwardly contradict what these Muslims are doing as in killing, beheading, stoning and etc; then it might show some validity to what you are saying. But that don't happen because all Muslims appear to be afraid to go against anything in their Religion that they do not agree with for fear of being killed! The laws/rules that you have in your so called Religion are totally insane!! They are so far from being holy that if you ever ran into holy you would not know what to do! It's all lies and more lies!!! You put women down and right there is shows you discriminate against women. You show no respect towards women and women whether you believe it or not are your EQUALS!! Men are by no mean superior to women!! The fact that the Muslim world wants to take over the world by popping out Muslims like breeding rabbits is proof enough that your so called Religion is in fact not Religion at all but an effort to take over the world!

Sir Walk F (124)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 6:05 am
If anyone recalls, there was another poster here a few years back who posted stuff to the 'fifth knight'. He disappeared about the time "pink Mindy" materialized.

This isn't even 'news'. It's just sensationalized, out-of-context nonsense. Take anyone's words and cut them up out of context, put in some spooky music, and you've got the 'substance' pink mindy spews.

My question is how does it get so many notes? Some of you criticizing it have 'noted' it. Why? It only promotes it. Just ignore it.

Sir Walk F (124)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 6:11 am
So, first Kat says she wants to see facts to debunk this. Then, when provided with them, she says she isn't interested in them. Then, she comes back and asks for the facts again. It's like a circle.

Derp derp derp derp

Some people will believe ANYTHING critical of Obama, regardless of how much it requires one to suspend critical thinking skills

derp derp derp

Steven Todd (3)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:13 am
Yes, Hans, we are seeing change already with a fascist dictatorship established in Michigan and Wisconsin made a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries. We can do without those changes, thank you. We prefer Democracy.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:17 am
Sir Walk your wrong - I never asked for facts - I simply stated if your going to say this article is wrong give us proof - and only 2 people have done that so far, two out of how many comments, 2...I read over both and commented that I see both sides and it comes down to which side you want to believe...

Hans - Change we can all Believe in again? LOL

Robert S (111)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:18 am
Its not necessary for each to post his or her own individual article/site debunking that posted here. What has been posted here debunking it is enough for fair minded reasonable people. That said, of course its not enough for you Kat.

Post something worth talking about, something true, something not total crap and you may get a different response. People here have had enough of the lying, enough of the evasion, and now your cries for reason while standing perversely, for that, this post, which is unreasonable, mean spirited, baseless, smugly posted by sociopaths full of grinning idiocy, warrants not respect and civil discourse, but disdain and earned contempt.

Jae A (316)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:29 am
You cannot currently send a star to Robert because you have done so within the last week.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:38 am
i guess the thing that kat h does not understand is that the article itself does not have any facts to back up its claim, it's just an opinion with someone trying to sell her something and she bought the goods, lock, stock and barrel. the horrible thing about being a sheep is that they don't realize they are a sheep and they run in flocks. so, the trick for the remainder of us is how do we educate the sheep so that they actually do have the ability to walk out of the hole before they drown in the rain?

Jae A (316)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 7:46 am
Hummm.....Kat H said "...I read over both and commented that I see both sides and it comes down to which side you want to believe"... facts need not be given to back up this piece of Fascist email rethoric 'blog' but facts are wanted to prove it not [rather one sided] matter ''they'' can just go with what they want to believe....Wow is that ever a familiar neocon rightwing message it sounds like to me. No proof,just go with blind faith and the will to believe in lies...yep, sounds about right for the GOP side of when it comes to herding their supporters beneith them.

Time to start backing up the GOP misinformation with facts Kat H....Can you do that with this blog's opinion ? Of course you can't....Yep a big the rightwingers in general.. Fire with fire and lies get their pants set on fire on these kinds of threads in the future. No more over looking the lies and crazy threads of the Fascist here on care2.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:23 am
I just want to say thanks to those 3 who just responded - you did exactly what I knew you would do - insults.....keep up the good work, your message is getting through loud and clear.

And the fact that never once have I said this article is right or wrong YET everyone assumes I take the side of this article - yes ya'll read very well.....when in fact it appears all these 3 want to do is jump on those wo may oppose their views and beat the crap out of them until they give in and say your way of getting your point across is to beat someone down until they give in...sad, really, really sad.

Keep throwing the insults and punches, I will continue to bounce up and smell like roses. Thanks you 3 for making my point! Love it!!!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:24 am
When's intermission? ~~~~yawn~~~~~ (Kabuki theater)

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:45 am
What's left to do after all these years, Kat/Hans? Almost 3 years since this crap came out and no sign ofit being true and you still want proof that it's not? If 3 more years go by and Obama STILL hasn't taken your 401k, will you believe it then? No. You will have moved on to other liberal hating material. You see, Kat. We know you like the back of our hand. You'll never wise up, no matter how low the american people become. You'll never answer the important questions to continue the debate and grow. You'll only ask for proof and never consider it. We know! We know every single one of you all to well.

In the news...
Jason --

Do you know what House Republicans have done to create jobs since claiming the Majority three months ago? Nothing.

However, they’ve found time for votes to restrict access to reproductive health care, take teachers out of our classrooms, nurses out of our hospitals, and even to defund NPR. All told, Republican cuts would destroy 700,000 jobs.

I’ve had enough of the Republicans’ extremist anti-jobs agenda and I think you have too.

On March 31st, we’ll hit the first FEC quarterly filing deadline since the outrageous GOP power play in Wisconsin and Republicans took the reins in the House. The eyes of the nation will be on our fundraising numbers to judge our grassroots determination to fight back against the radical Republican agenda. We must have a strong showing.

I responded with, We're broke. The right broke us. :(

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:48 am
I'll ask a 3rd or 4th time...

Boehner said you people have spoken and there will be no tax hikes on the rich and no cuts to oil company welfare ($30billion).

Did you say that? If not, why didn't you call him on it? It's really important.

Can you answer the god damned question?

Steven Todd (3)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:57 am
They keep saying liberals are going to take their guns too, and each time that doesn't happen. They then repeat it the next time around and they continue to believe it no matter how much evidence there is against it being true. What matters here to them is not facts or evidence, but belief.

William Y (54)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 9:25 am
Steven Todd says, "What matters here to them is not facts or evidence, but belief."

That is the main point.

Lower taxes on the wealthy to create jobs. Does it work, no
Then do the same thing.

Gay Marriage ruins traditional marriage. Does it? No.
Repeat charge

Ad Infinitum. Yes belief, that's all they can use since they wouldn't know evidence if it was gift wrapped and stated in huge letters, EVIDENCE.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 9:32 am
Right on, William. It's like none of them are dealing with a full deck. Like talking to a 3 year old. Worse!

It's amazing what a corporate owned and run media company can do to the mind if you LET IT!

I watch fox now & then and every time, there's a never ending rant to hate liberals. Don't people get that?

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 10:26 am
Dear Mr. President; What About Middle Class America? -- Is Your Solution Still Printing More Money???" -- The Fifth Knight's Blog - New March 22, 2011 Entry

For those who oppose the Obama Administration's U.S. economic policy decisions and after reading the "Annual Report on Middle Class" pdf, with their noble posturing in February of 2010, then we can vividly see why there is a growing opposition.

By reflecting back over the past 13 months (Feb 2010 - Mar 2011) up to current time and basically looking slightly forward into our economic future, we must take pause to address our present concerns.

We fail to see any significant assistance actually being rendered toward those identified as average American Middle Class families and their continuing desperate pursuit of legal employment within the United States of America!

Wherever President Obama is involved, we always hear pro-Obama followers exclaiming "Give him more time and have patience!", but after the last 13 months with virtually NO results in sight and having to constantly hear people complain (including my own family members) within our local grocery and retail stores on a daily basis, then we begin to seriously wonder ... What's Up With That????

The United States Government is becoming more desperate by the day and a loud question is currently being raised as to what is going to be done in Washington D.C. concerning these volatile financial situations.

The United States Government has been eyeing American individual retirement accounts since 1993, in order to manipulate this as an emergency reserve cash-flow fund, which of course the federal government would promise to insure its monetary safety and stability.

Our main hope is that if enough Americans speak-out against this total federal takeover of all individual 401K's and IRA's, then it would become political suicide for them to commit such an absurd act in the first place.

Social Security is a government controlled system and has now become morally and economically bankrupt, so federal control over individual retirement accounts would also be run-into-the-ground -- no differently in-like-fashion over the long term.

Raiding an already crippled system as an emergency cash fund is obviously not the appropriate answer!

Over the next 12 months the U.S. economy is going to be inundated by a tsunami of financial reckonings and if the United States currency (USD) continues to slowly be removed as the World's Reserve Currency, then this is where the real and absolute threat and present danger to the American way of life exists!

It appears that hyperinflation could possibly be right around the corner ... and we have to stop and ask ourselves:

Where are the jobs Mr. President?

The stimulus did not effectively work and how are we going to continue paying for these rising commodity prices in our stores!?!?

Are you on vacation again Mr. President and will you get back to us very soon on these critical issues????

We can only sincerely hope that President Obama will in fact physically respond with no fancy speeches ... if any ... before it gets too incredibly late.

Americans are beginning to wake-up and ask themselves these very same exacting questions here today!

"Obama Administration Plans to Seize 401(k) Retirement Accounts" - New American - May 2010

"Annual Report on Middle Class" - White House Vice President Biden - @ - February 2010

What's the hold-up .... or is this exactly what it seems ....

A HOLD UP!?!?!?

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 10:48 am
Ummm, Mindy. John Boehener is house speaker. He calls the shots. He ordered a 3 day work week so he can golf. They are doing NOTHING for us. It isn't Obama's call!!!!

They sure have you hating the wrong people, huh. Wise tf up. Stop being an idiot! We don't read your crap, either!

"Do you know what House Republicans have done to create jobs since claiming the Majority three months ago? Nothing.

However, they’ve found time for votes to restrict access to reproductive health care, take teachers out of our classrooms, nurses out of our hospitals, and even to defund NPR. All told, Republican cuts would destroy 700,000 jobs.

I’ve had enough of the Republicans’ extremist anti-jobs agenda and I think you have too. "

Get it!?


Steven Todd (3)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 10:57 am
Mindy is deaf, dumb and blind. If the Republicans get their way, not only will no new jobs be created while we busily add "In God We Trust" to all public buildings (at gods know what cost to the taxpayer) but 700,000 jobs will be lost.

Steven Todd (3)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 11:32 am
Hans, why would anyone send a pink star to a self-incriminating liar?

Steven Todd (3)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 11:33 am
*green star

William Y (54)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 11:51 am
Mindy, if you would look at what the role of the President is and what the roll of congress & the Senate, you would see why the middle class is getting screwed, and it is not do to Obama, but the TEA nuts in congress.
The US is not a dictatorship which is why Obama, in a sense, has his hands tied, If congress & the Senate don't bill, he can't sign it. the Repub congress has done nothing productive since they have been in power.

Richard J (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 12:42 pm
I made an early comment and after reviewing the comments since, felt it useful to provide the following: By way of background, I am a tax attorney and consider myself a middle of the road Republican. I follow the proposals regarding taxes and legislation. There has never been a proposal or an attempt to require private pensions plans or 401k or IRAs to be only invested in government securities. At all times, so long as fiduciary responsibilities are met, these sort of plans are individually invested. There has been a Republican proposal to privatize Social Security investments, which most folks who work in this arena see as disastrous. First, the government uses the Social Security funds to invest in government securities to provide money and that would go away. Second, since private investments go up and down in value, the failure of this approach would simply lead to another costly bailout. The private investment of Social Security funds should be resisted by each of us.

Susanne R (235)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 1:15 pm
Thank you, Richard J. It appears that if none exist, Mindy will manufacture ways to demonize our President and his administration. I'm sure she won't be convinced, but your expertise has been most valuable to the rest of us.

Susanne R (235)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 1:18 pm
Just a question for Mindy: Does The Fifth Knight's Blog belong to you and your husband?

Robert S (111)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 1:31 pm
Hans likes crap and those who copy and paste it. Given his preferences he would probably like how you think you smell too Kat. Every time you pop back up there is the raspberry sound and oh yes, of course...what Hans would think of as....roses.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 1:56 pm
Hans sent himself, mindy, a green star. Aren't multiple republican fascist sock puppets cute? Not.

You're pushing it, Hans. You people are already been accused of ruining our lives. How far do you want to go?

Robert S (111)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 2:03 pm
Kat's recipe for success is to declare each observation of her witlessness... victory. By that standard the dumber her statements, the more sure she is to win, as invariably we will point to it and say...God thats dumb... and BINGO, she's done it again, proving to herself once again that she needn't ever be concerned with facts. Just be creative! Say you win! and let delusion be your guide.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 2:13 pm
pink has no clue as to what she is talking about. she mentioned social security as being "morally bankrupt". i didn't know a program can be "morally bankrupt".

fyi pinky, social security is a federal trust fund so that if times warranted BORROWING from the fund, then the federal government was able to do so. the idea behind the BORROWING is that eventually, the ones who BORROWED the money would have to budget appropriately so the money could be returned to the fund. i guess you can't name the one who continuously raided the fund so that now everyone is screaming the fund is broke, which, by the way, is not true. come on, give a guess! if you guessed bush and war criminals inc, then you win a cookie!

it's funny how you are referring to this economy as less than a one term president's economy. were you asleep for the past 30 years?

do you know what the federal reserve is?

how about the world trade organization?

international monetary fund?

world bank?

do you know how u.s. and e.u. agricultural subsidies work?

do you know anything of the futures market and who writes the laws that governs the futures market?

do you know which entity is working extremely hard to de-value the dollar? do you even know that there negotiations occurring between nations to decided which currency would remain solvent and which would be de-valued?

pinky, do you know anything about how the economy is run??? because from what i can see, you have not a single clue.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 2:21 pm
kat h, i have not written insults. those are observations. by observing your written responses to others, you have not written any intelligent responses to the ones who challenge this article.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 2:23 pm
mad hatter, were you like this during the reagan and bush, and then appointed bush years? if you weren't, i would just like to point out that the biggest expansion of government powers occurred during those administrations. another one, asleep at the wheel.

catherine Buchanan (113)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 2:25 pm
carol, you seem to be of the tea party persuasion. it seems to me that since the tea party started it's ranting, i still have not seen or heard of viable solutions proposed by the members. i have just heard a lot of noise. do you have any viable solutions? or you just one of those that likes to scream too?

Patricia N (9)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 8:25 pm
One thing I think all the people who posted on this subject have to realize is that Care 2 is not necessarily left wing, middle or right wing. At least I don't think it is. We have free speech here and one should be able to air their views in a polite, hate-free way. We sure have a lot of political savvy people here and, therefore, it's been an interesting discussion. I've learned a few things and I hope everyone else has too.

H Nick H (1826)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 9:09 pm
I asked this question before here, and on many other posts. I'm still waiting for an answer (with facts).

In the last 40 years, just name one law (or proposed law) that republicans passed or tried to pass that would basically help the middle class and poor people (not the rich)? I had truly hoped there would be at least one, but no answer so far. Anybody????


Linda G (187)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 9:31 pm
Thank you Richard J for your common sense remarks. I can't send green stars to Jae or Robert or Ian yet so please consider this as a bouquet.
Because of the massive GOP deregulation of Wall Street, I lost my 401 K after working for 45 years in the banking industry.... not, sadly as a billionaire CEO. Had social security been privatized, those funds would be gone also and I would be living under a bridge.

Scott Freewheeler (45)
Tuesday March 22, 2011, 9:56 pm

I don’t think there have been any at all Nick. The only laws past these days seem to be preparing for martial law and the resulting abolition of the Constitution and all human and civil rights. Ok I concede that there have been a couple of other laws too which exacerbate the gap between the ultra rich plutocrats and the poor but that is about it.

Richard J (0)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 3:16 am
Two comments. An earlier comment stated that the Republicans deregulated Wall Street. Actually is was during the Clinton Administration after heavy, heavy lobbing by the banks, particularly Citi. The most devastating law aimed at high income is Internal Revenue Code 409A, which penalizes certain forms of executive compensation. It is a Republican induced law.

Jae A (316)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 5:35 am
Check out Richard J's profile page. Seems to be another fake ID or the rightwing kind. Really have to stay focused to keep up with the deceivers on here , more so lately than ever before.

RIght on John Cause..delete delete the fakes and the tea bag fear mongers decevers and haters !!!!! :=)

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 9:01 am
Linda Away, I'm sorry you lost your dream. A LOT of republican supporters did too. That was supposed to wise them up to see the light that we're trying to shine. Instead, we see a total and utter display of a cult like zombie. A loyalty that scares the hell out of me and others, I'm sure. They followed the enemy of the people right over the cliff and here we are. Having a conversation about it as we fall to our deaths.

Hans may appear to be a regular guy like you and I but I suspect he's more like a wealthy shill, posting his BS in between stock market looting shorts. It's safe to say, deception is a way of life on the right. Honor and respect have no meaning anymore. Taught to them over the years. They laugh as they lie. It's now their culture. They'll pass their hate on to their kids like racism is passed on. Never thinking or CARING about the future they will leave them.
No Nick, they will never answer the questions. They know they can't, so they just play the game and giggle about it like the children and go on their merry way.
Who gets more blame for our down fall, them or the politicians they're shaking the reigns at?

In the news:

Death by a Single GOP Cut
GOP cuts could end up making vaccines less readily available at a time when both the cost and quantity of recommended vaccines are going up: [READ MORE]

Will they giggle when a loved one dies from a mutated strain of flu or when they have no choice when school is done, they can't afford an extended education and join the military, only to be killed or lose limbs?
No. They will cry just like you or I and never realize that they could have saved their kids with a well thought out vote. What a shame. Get ready for the 2nd dip depression, because the right has us on track for it.


Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 11:31 am
Dear Jason,

Today on the first anniversary of the historic Affordable Care Act (ACA) the Republicans on the powerful House Energy and Commerce Committee are holding a “public” hearing at the state capitol in Harrisburg, PA to attack the health care law. Except they're not there to listen to the public and people like Pennsylvania's Stacie Ritter, whose family had good insurance and still had to file for bankruptcy because of massive medical bills.

The Republicans don’t care about families like the Ritters. They want to repeal the new law that would help prevent other families from going through what happened to Stacie’s family. Stand with Stacie and millions of others who refuse to let the Republicans put the insurance companies back in charge of our health care. Fight back against these partisan attacks on America’s middle class.

Stacie and her husband Ben had to pay huge fees for the treatments their twin girls, Hannah and Madeline, needed when they were diagnosed with leukemia. It was too much and they went bankrupt. Thankfully Hannah and Madeline are doing well today but Republicans in congress want to take us back to a time where insurance companies could deny them coverage because of their medical history.

While the Republicans play politics and grandstand, Stacie and hundreds of others will be telling the truth about the ACA in the Capitol Rotunda to make sure the stories of average Pennsylvanians are heard, especially those already benefiting from the law’s many cost savings and consumer protections. Join us and fight back today.

The ACA is providing life-changing benefits, cost-savings and protections that are making a huge difference in people’s lives right now. But, the ACA is about more than health care. It’s also about economic security for families struggling to make ends meet. We can’t preserve and expand the middle-class if people have to worry about health care.

Stacie says it best, “This is America,” she says. “I knew we could do better with our heath care than we’ve done in the past and I’m glad we have this law. We won’t go back. We’ve got to move forward.”

Join the fight today to protect America’s middle class families.

In Solidarity,
Melinda Gibson

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 12:05 pm
Jason --

Once again, Republicans are on the wrong side of history.

House Democrats have led the fight to create jobs, enact health care reform, demand financial accountability on Wall Street and, together with President Obama, restore America's leadership and reputation around the world.

It is because of these accomplishments that House Democrats are now the targets of vicious attacks by their Republican opponents, funded by unaccountable special interests.

This is no time to stand on the sidelines. We need grassroots Democrats like you to get involved.

Treasonous right!

catherine Buchanan (113)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 2:40 pm
unaccountable special interests means the federal reserve banks, such as jp morgan chase, the world trade organization that is supposed to be the ruling entity over global trade laws, the international monetary fund that actually has democratically elected leaders assassinated because those leaders refused to accept loans at ridiculously inflated interest rates that they knew a small country, such as bosnia, could never pay off, etc and so on. one notorious member of the federal reserve banks is...drum role please... bush senior! his grandfather was intricately tied to jp morgan, the bank that took care of the nazi funds. yes, the bush family made it's fortune off of the nazis. and who did bush senior have assassinated while he was the director of the cia? president jfk! jfk did three major things that would have taken control over the u.s. economy out of bush sr's hands and put it back where it belongs, with the people.

1) jfk would not continue the invasion of cuba in order to capture/kill castro. bush is extremely pissed about this because, under the despot batista, bush sr was able to gain the controlling interest of the sugar plantations on cuba and have a significant share of the cuban oil reserves. bush sr was able to build a close relationship with batista because he was the director of the cia.

2) jfk was going to have the cia investigated for its shady activities. who was director of the cia? bush sr!

3) jfk had signed into law executive order 11110 which abolished the federal reserve and put control of the money back into the people's hands. jp morgan is a federal reserve bank. the federal reserve, a private banking conglomeration, actually tells our federal government how to run OUR economy. WTF! fascism at its finest. with the federal reserve gone, the bush war criminals inc family would have lost their strangle hold on our economy.

Richard J (0)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 3:08 pm
I am not sure how you arrive at your conclusion about my “fake” profile page, whatever you are referring to. I graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Wisconsin in 1954, set the then all-time scholastic record at my law school, was “number 1” on the Florida Bar, am an av rated lawyer, which is as high as it can be. At age 80 I am still practicing, writing, and speaking. I am a moderate politically, and find no room for a moderate in the Republican Party. You may wish to check out my blog, So what’s your problem? Is it that I read the law, follow what is going on in the world on a daily basis, write books and articles about the law? Or that you don’t agree with what I said?

William Y (54)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 3:17 pm
That is the normal type profile of one with a fake ID, an empty profile. Your profile has virtually nothing in it.
Fake IDers and spammers have blank profiles to prevent anyone from finding out who they are.

Steven Todd (3)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 3:23 pm
There are other reasons for people to have blank profiles. I have had blank profiles before simply because I haven't gotten around to putting anything in it. People might also have blank profiles in order to protect their privacy There is no requirement that anybody put anything in their profiles, nor should anybody feel obligated to share information they do not wish to share.

William Y (54)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:11 pm
I agree to a point, Steven, but such things as occupation, locality (general) do not invade privacy.

Steven Todd (3)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:14 pm
William those are two I often leave blank. It's too easy for somebody to track you down if you use your real name. I often don't put what state, let alone what city; if they know where you live and your occupation, it's even easier to track you down. I've received mail after writing letters to the editor in the local paper - it's not easy to track somebody down if they have your name. I have a family to consider and I live in a city full of fundamentalist Christians. I'm not sharing any more than I have to.

Beth M (46)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:21 pm
Gosh..seems u peeps r so busy scaring each other...Why does one want to be great?..why does one want to be super?...What is wrong with ordinary and high functioning?..x

William Y (54)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:22 pm
Steven, I've got news for you, they can track you down even with a blank profile just by your logging in to a web browser, the IP address.

Roseann d (178)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:45 pm
What a coincidence...Republicans want to tax the Middle Class and Poor to death as well to make up for their untouchable tax cuts for the rich and corporations. I guess both sides have a lot in common after all.

Robert S (111)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 4:49 pm
Richard J's facts are as far as I know correct. I have no problem with learned input and will be glad to see more of it from you, speaking for me personally. We have many here who pose, and Jae simply points out your page fitting the look of many who do, but I find nothing in your statements to complain about and so will take them at face value with thanks.

Robert S (111)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 7:09 pm
Beth M., Nothing is wrong with being ordinary and high functioning...

Why do you ask?

The observation "u peeps" makes equivalence which I find inaccurate. I will, however waste only as much time arguing against the validity of your statement as you spent making its case as valid... and so I am done.

Jane R (105)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 8:03 pm
I knew if he was elected (by idiots) he would set out to ruin the U.S.

Robert S (111)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 8:19 pm
Oh my...

Isn't it just like "the Right" to name call. Shame, shame, shame... repeated for affect.

Just kidding Jane. Your claim of knowing has been noted. Your remarkable... really. And everyone should listen.

Robert S (111)
Wednesday March 23, 2011, 10:27 pm
By the way Jane...did you have that same ..."knowingness" when Bush was elected or did his screwing of us in every way, catch you by surprise?

Phyllis Henderson (12)
Monday March 28, 2011, 6:55 pm
The ignorance and stupidity that runs rampant tn this country never ceases to astound me. Not to mention who keeps making up these ridiculous names and words. Does anyone research anything any more or does the majority just believe every piece of propaganda and drivel it reads without question. What a sad society we have become. Do half of the people in this country know what congress, the senate, and each titled member of the government do? The fact of the matter is the party system is broken and no longer works. Special interest is really running the country. Does any one remember the words "We The People" and which piece of paper they are written on? Believe it or not people the President of the United States is not the Anti Christ and is not responsible for everything that someone may or may not like in this country. Please educate your selves and stop jumping on the band wagons. By the way name calling makes you look so much more intelligent and makes people want to take you so much more seriously. (NOT) I thought this site was for people who wanted to help make the world a better place . I apparently was incorrect. Again how very, very sad.

Robert S (111)
Monday March 28, 2011, 7:36 pm
Phyllis, I agree with much of what you say. I just want to point something out to you. When you say the ignorance and stupidity that runs rampant in this country, your words could be construed as name in someone or group is ignorant and stupid. I know, I know, your simply describing their actions as you see them, but stupid is as stupid does...and thats the quandary we find ourselves in as we confront behavior in words acted out here over and over again. Not once as with a mistake which could be isolated and experienced as if as a single thing alone, within a vacuum. No. We see here the same group sometimes with multiple pseudonyms displaying remarkable stupidity as a part of their embedded personalities, regurgitated with remarkable regularity. After a while the actions can not be separated from the actors...thus "it", (the action), is not stupid as its to oft repeated, so It is they... they are stupid. And because we no longer can separate the action from the actor, we have name called. So be it.

Kit B (276)
Monday March 28, 2011, 8:37 pm

Interesting comment Robert, though I am disappointed to see so many bright and otherwise constructive minds wasting their time on this thread. If any thing is to change in this country then it will only happen by unity. Threads like this create move divisiveness and actually lead no where.

Get off your asses and get out there in your communities, do something positive and try to bring people together. We are being eaten by the oligarchy and you waste time fighting over that which will not be affected by fights on the Internet. Be a force for some thing positive - forget the party lines - go plant some trees, build some community gardens (you'll be needing the food) bring in the BSA and GSA and then reach out to their parents. We no longer have a need for the wealthy they offer no jobs, small businesses and co-ops offer jobs, take a long honest look and stop being dupes for the plutocracy - shed the years of indoctrinations and learn to see the reality of the world as it is - America as it is - a myth.

Kimberly Bennett (8)
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Wednesday September 7, 2011, 11:27 am

There are those who will attempt to throw mud all over the facts, but they cannot ultimately extinguish the truth!

The once muscular and robust Obama presidency has now undergone a dramatic downsizing.

Three polls on Tuesday revealed he is quickly losing core support and even the dwindling Obama die-hards are beginning to question his limited abilities.

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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
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William Y (54)
Wednesday September 7, 2011, 8:05 pm
There is a quote, by I can't rcall who but it totally applies to the Current situation. "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag & carrying a cross." That is what the current Republican party is.
And that what their backers are, Fascist Kochites & Pseudo-Christians.

Past Member (0)
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Past Member (0)
Thursday September 8, 2011, 8:33 am

Fox viewers are the MOST misinformed of ALL.

William Y (54)
Thursday September 8, 2011, 9:36 am
@ Jason R. I think that anyone with any common sense realizes that.

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Robert S (111)
Tuesday September 13, 2011, 1:51 pm
Amazing how much time Mindy spends going to each and every old post of hers to promote new ones.

Time to hit the [stop tracking] so the self promotion is not noticed any more.

Past Member (0)
Friday September 16, 2011, 7:28 pm
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Past Member (0)
Saturday September 17, 2011, 8:29 am
And now for some truth...

Thom's blog
Hell no you can't!?

You need to know this. "Hell no you can't!" In a speech yesterday - Speaker of the House John Boehner slammed President Obama's "American Jobs Act" - calling it a "poor substitute" for actual job creation policies.

But a week ago - when President Obama unveiled his plan - Speaker Boehner seemed open to negotiating on it. So it looks like Eric Cantor and the rest of the Tea Party Republicans who'd rather see the economy crash than Obama succeed - once again stuck the shiv in Boehner and told him, "no deal," just like they did in the debt-limit debate. Instead of the "American Jobs Act" - Boehner put forward more of the same Republican proposals to create jobs - more tax cuts for millionaires, billionaires, and transnational corporations - the so-called "job creators" as pollster Frank Luntz calls them - and more deregulation to that the Republican Party's corporate overlords can keep making profits off poisoning the air we breath and contaminating the water we drink.

But this is great news for the President - because now he can put his Harry Truman hat on - and run against the Republicans in 2012 - as the Party that's against job creation in America.


Past Member (0)
Saturday September 17, 2011, 8:30 am
Why are Liberals noting this crap?

Past Member (0)
Sunday September 18, 2011, 9:33 am
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