Thursday June 25, 2009, 4:39 pm
Wouldn't it be better to create jobs with a future. The planet is cooling and the global warming scam is nearing its end.

This legislation is incapable of doing anything about the climate.....but it sure will bring about control . These are the kinds of"green" jobs created.

Energy police to carry out home inspections under invasive and tyrannical new measures
Excerpt:
"Obama’s pledge to “create millions of new green jobs,” in other words millions more government enforcers harassing and fining citizens, is part of the government’s effort to push through a sprawling climate change bill this week which ultimately aims to cut carbon dioxide emissions by a whopping 70-80%.

As we previously highlighted, if such a program was to be fully implemented, the consequences for the American economy would be devastating, creating a new great depression and sinking Americans’ standard of living to near third world status.

As University of Oxford Professor Dr James Buckee states, banning the internal combustion engine, and coal-fired power stations of an entire country, be it Scotland or the U.S., would not even get close to obtaining an 80% reduction.

“More energy has been expended on finding ways to infringe on human activity than has gone into understanding the science,” said Buckee.

Such a massive program of carbon emission elimination can only be achieved through an army of “green brigades” bossing, enforcing and regulating the personal behavior of over 300 million Americans.

This is all about the creation of a leviathan system of suffocating bureaucracy, staffed and enforced by a gargantuan ‘green stasi’ army of regulators and petty officials charged with sucking the population dry of any money that hasn’t already been taxed or fined out of them by sticking their noses into our everyday activities.

The good news is that recent polls show that less and less people are buying into global warming hype as the apocalyptic predictions of hysterical alarmists fail to materialize in the real world.

Schwarzenegger’s desire to see similar legislation passed in the U.S. is being opposed by state representatives in places such as Arizona.

“Arizona is now close to becoming the first state to outlaw climate change legislation,” reports the Daily Tech. “The state Senate voted Monday, 19-10 to approve a bill banning the Department of Environmental Quality from enacting or enforcing measures with language pertaining to climate change. The bill is now awaiting House approval.”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/climate-cops-to-fine-wasteful-homeowners-businesses.html

Thursday June 25, 2009, 7:19 pm
Please call your congressman, as the vote will happen tomorrow! The other side is making a last ditch effort to stop this with massive phone banks, funded by the oil and coal industries. To see who is most likely voting one way or another go to the article titled RACE TO 218: HOUSE CLIMATE BILL

IF YOUR CONGRESSMAN IS ON THE FENCE IT IS URGENT TO CALL HIM OR HER the vote is going to be close!!!!

Friday June 26, 2009, 6:29 am
Thank you Obama admin for making allowences for "low income" with the unavoidalbe increase in utilitie bills if this bill passes. It is just not the utilities, it's also gas, and food because more will be spent transporting the food, some industries will either make more cuts OR even send business overseas. What about the allowences for the middle class who also have been affected with this down turn who may not fall into the category of Low Income by standards but in all actuality are, income lowered, hours lowered, expenses increased. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PAY MORE FOR ANYTHING IN THIS ECONOMY. We cant fix everything at one time....

Friday June 26, 2009, 7:31 am
We need to start making changes now or face serious consequences in the future. Even the children of America are voicing their opinions (http://tiny.cc/dutuY). It’s time for the government to start listening.

Friday June 26, 2009, 10:52 am
I do hope the last people on the planet are the ones who insist there is no global warming and the ones who vote against anything that might help with global warming.

Friday June 26, 2009, 12:40 pm
Those are decisive hours.
May the line of reason, wisdom and responsibility prevail - otherwise, we might well "killing our grandchildren to feed our children", as a wise man once put it.

Mother Earth needs some relief and quite urgently!

Friday June 26, 2009, 12:45 pm
Global Warming is an indisputed Scientific Fact. Every great Generation in the American experience has made great sacrifices for the common good and the Strength of our Democracy is feuled by such sacrifices.
Now, is the time to make those sacrifices, in thid momumental fisrt but crucial step in stopping the undeniable threat of Global Warming and our insane dependence on fossil fuels.
This Legislation must be passed, despite it being watered down, and despite the fact that energy prices will be increased. This is the Greatest Challenge of our generation, and it is our moral and patriotic duty, to pass this legislation, because believe it or not the problem of Global Warming exists. This is a problem that must be solved, because all life on this one Planet depends on what we do now, because it is only a matter of time before life as we know it ceases to be able to sustain us.

Friday June 26, 2009, 12:52 pm
Our government listens to lobbyists more than they listen to us. But I am sure that global warming is real, My husband is a physics professor and he explains the greenhouse effect very well,

Friday June 26, 2009, 1:03 pm
Shawn and Francis...yes, but the warming stopped 10 years ago. We have been cooling since 2002 in spite of rising CO2.

This is an energy tax bill 1500 pages long which not one of your Congress critters have read.
It will put the country into a permanent depression and will do nothing to change the climate.

Best of all...80-85% of the trillions in income go not to the treasry, but to big business this bill is supposedly regulation.

If it passes....say good bye to your country.

Friday June 26, 2009, 1:11 pm
Judy Cross: While there is some periodic cooling the evidence that most climate change our planet is experiencing is global warming over the long term is undenieable. If we are not going through global warming how do you account for the unprecdented melting of ice in Anartctica resulting in destruction of habitat for certain species such as the Polar Bear?

Friday June 26, 2009, 1:49 pm
Charlie L...so what....CO2 has nothing to do with it. Otherwise temperatures would be continuing up....because CO2 is.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MSUMAY09.jpg

No Correlation=No Causation.

YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED...STOP THE BILL

Friday June 26, 2009, 2:15 pm
Judy is correct. Don't take her word for it though. Do research. Don't listen to anyone for that matter. Find out for yourself. Look at who is behind the global warming agenda. They are getting rich and if they get their way they will make millions off of fooling us.

Friday June 26, 2009, 6:17 pm
Noted , thanks !!

Friday June 26, 2009, 8:08 pm
The temperatures were high in 1998, but the general trend is still rising temperatures. It's false and misleading to say that there is cooling.

The idea is to create "green jobs" creating clean energy, such as solar and wind, not jobs to harass citizens.

Meanwhile trillions go to Big Oil and Coal and other polluting corporations, and that's fine? Wildlife is being poisoned and getting cancer from human pollution, and that's fine? Thousands, if not millions, of women, men and children have been displaced, maimed and killed in invasions for oil and gas, and that's fine? The poorest suffer drought and flooding due to emissions from industrialized countries, and that's fine?
There are people getting rich now from the oil-intensive military-industrial complex, and that's ok? There are hungry kids in the US, and that's ok?

It's not like things are perfect now.

Monday June 29, 2009, 1:28 pm
A note about the person above (Judy Cross) who posted the comment, she is a follower of Alex Jones

Alex Jones is a nutcase

Published September 13, 2007
9/11 conspiracy theorists are, unfortunately, a rather common breed, especially considering they come from all political ideologies. Websites like Prison Planet don’t help, especially when they bill themselves as reporting the truth. I’m rather fond of saying that truth requires proof. Half-assed theories aren’t proof. Of course, linking to things like this on the main page of the site doesn’t help when it comes to credibility.
Anyways, who exactly is Alex Jones? He’s best known as a conspiracy theorist who runs a radio show and the aforementioned Prison Planet (I’m not giving that site the pleasure of a link). In fact, I’d say he’s one of the most vocal opponents of the official version of the events of 9/11. As for his political ideology, he’s a paleoconservative. Think Rush Limbaugh but worse. He’s so extreme it scares me to think people actually believe what he says. Now, I don’t mind conservatives, but when anyone, regardless of their political beliefs, willingly believes that the government of the United States launched missiles at its own buildings (including a government one, containing key members of the Defense Department), killed 2000 of its own civilians (2000 less people paying taxes), and yet was unable to whack the most vocal conspiracy theorists (such as the maker of Loose Change), I tend to think they’re a little crazy.
What really got me this time was a Jones-led attack on a Wikipedia editor, Morton Devonshire, who allegedly deleted 9/11 Truth Movement related articles and basically covered up any “truth” Jones and his comrades put up on Wikipedia (the article is a couple months old, but it was brought up in a more recent Wikipedia discussion). Interestingly enough, Morton isn’t an administrator, which means he has no power to delete articles. He can propose and request deletion, but he doesn’t have the last say.
The article Jones co-wrote is filled with juvenile attacks on Morton, including accusations of trolling and claims that his existence is “stunted and worthless,” among other ad hominem attacks. What a perfect way to show people you hold the superior moral ground… They also incorrectly quote Wikipedia policies (please note Alex, articles don’t necessarily need a discussion to be deleted; if they’re pure bullshit or nonsense, no discussion is needed). But what takes the cake is Jones’ encouragement of his readers to vandalize Morton’s user page. Justification of how crazy these truthers are? I think so.
I find it interesting that anyone who disagrees with the conspiracy theorists is brainwashed, a neo-con, or too stupid/blind/Republican to accept the “facts.” Granted, most people (myself included) consider conspiracy theorists to be gullible nutcases who just want to believe that their government is actually capable of pulling off the worst terrorist attack in the United States with no one spilling the beans about it. Considering the type of “facts” these people generally come up with, it’s a wonder anyone actually believes them. For every bit of proof they come up with, a simpler and more reasonable explanation can be given. Remember Occam’s Razor, people.
Take, for instance, the BBC reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it actually collapsed. Conspiracy theorists say the BBC knew beforehand because the collapse was pre-planned. A more reasonable explanation is that the reporter got bad information. Someone thought the building collapsed and relayed the (false) information to the reporter. This happens all the time in news.
Or how about how everyone pulled out of WTC 7 before it collapsed? Conspiracy theorists would tell you, again, that the collapse was pre-planned and that explosives were used. This is based on a radio message by Larry Silverstein, owner of the property, who said “We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it,” in regards to WTC 7. The conspiracy take is that Silverstein admitted to giving the go ahead to demolishing the building, since “pull” is industry jargon for demolishing a building. Why would Silverstein do this? Insurance fraud. Building goes down; he gets the money. However, a simpler explanation is that Silverstein was talking about pulling the fire department operation trying to extinguish the flames in the building. Silverstein was not a demolitions expert, so why would he use demolitions jargon? It’s reasonable to assume that he thought the building was a lost cause, so he would rather everyone get out of the building instead of them being caught inside when it eventually collapsed. A more in-depth explanation is available here.
Ah, busting myths is fun. And rather easy once you get the hang of it. The problem is getting conspiracy theorists to listen to you. I’ve tried, and let me tell you, it’s not easy. As Alex Jones showed, dealing with critics is not a strong point of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Prove them wrong (or simply disbelieve them) and they just attack you, usually with completely false accusations. I’m not a neo-con. I’m not being paid by CENTCOM. Heck, I’ve even asked questions on 9/11 Truth forums (and got blasted for not blindly believing everything Loose Change said). Believe me, I’ve examined the evidence. And I think it justifies the official account. If you think that’s wrong, prove to me that Popular Mechanics and National Geographic (among other groups) are being bribed by the government to support their version of events. Show me how the NIST’s scientific data is wrong.
Theories are easy to formulate. Proof is simple to fabricate. But solid, incontrovertible proof…now that’s harder to come by, isn’t it? I guess I just need to remember that there will always be people who simply want to believe that there is always some evil New World Order behind everything that happens.