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Please read the petition and understand what you are signing, This is not a petiton asking for you to condone your children to have sex, its a petition asking lawmakers not to classify young teenagers in love, in the same catagory as pedophiles.

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Past Member (0)
Saturday April 12, 2008, 10:09 pm

Thank you, Dana. Signed and will pass on to friends.

Dana H (229)
Saturday April 12, 2008, 10:10 pm
We are all guilty of being teenagers and I am sure a majority of us were having sex. I can not even begin to phatom the consequences that would have been placed upon our lives because we were kids & in love & doing what all teenagers do. Being a mother myself, I was not really thrilled to find out my teenagers were having sex, however, so was I at their age. This goes for the lawmakers passing these laws and making these young people in love appear as if they are sex offenders or pedophiles. Totally different scenario here. I have to agree with Patty Wetterling when she says that these laws are for these lawmakers trying to boast their egos.Kids will be kids when it comes to this type of thing happening.This locking of juvenilles up & giving them life sentences as if they were adults has gotten out of control. If you have children this is something to think about,especially if you have young boys, with this law right now, God forbid they find a girlfriend, and fall in love, they will be charged and labeled a sex offender for life.

Dana H (229)
Saturday April 12, 2008, 10:16 pm
TY Mark so much for all you do. Dana~.~

Donna C (62)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 4:14 am
I totally agree with you Dana, signed and noted.

Eleanor B (909)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 6:59 am
I have signed. It wouldn't let me pass on to 10 others but I will forward! This is so unjust. They were a pair of teenagers - he is not a paedophile. How dreadful for him and his family. I hope the law is changed and he can then be found innocent in retrospect and allowed to live a normal life.

Blacktiger P (247)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 4:49 pm
And the "real" paedophiles get away with murder and ruining children's lives[our next generation BTW] because they have banks of lawyers and pay taxes.

Dana H (229)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 7:14 pm
I just wanted to "Thank" All of my fellow care2 members who have noted & signed this petition & forwarded it on. Dana~.~

Past Member (0)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 7:33 pm
Noted, signed and forwarded! Thanks!

Pamela R (159)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 8:01 pm
Please read this and consider signing the petition. (And read Dana's
comment!). Signed and forwarded!!

. (0)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 9:29 pm
NOTED,signed,and forwarded...thank you

Elisa M (93)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 9:39 pm

Dana, noted and signed.
TY Mark for the forward

Jaclin S (230)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 9:48 pm
Dana thanx. Noted/Signed and forwarding. Blessings.

Jaclin S (230)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 9:56 pm
My comment is that young girls these days should be more thoughtful of their friends - that young girl aged 13yrs - shouldn't have been out and about roaming around having sex at her age - I am sorry if you disagree with me - but heaven's above - young people these days have many advantages and far more recreational passtimes. Sex at 13 - I don't know - 9 x out of 10 girls get young boys into dreadfulyl dire straits from being promiscuous - and I certainly wasn't haven't sex at 13 - I was studying and playing sport and doing chores - too much freedom these days. I feel so sad for this young boy - his life is ruined because of a lie. Peace

. (0)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:05 pm
Noted & signed the petition-I hope that something can be done for this young man-his life shouldn`t be ruined by this.

Dana H (229)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:06 pm
My dearesr Jos you are so right about the kids nowadays, but it was the same back in the day in my time. But because these kids do not think about the consequences of life they put themselves in these situations and then we have the problem that Ricky is faced with today. His is not the first case either. It just so happens that Genearlow Wilson & Mason Dixon both from Georgia was prisoned under the same circumstances. Its that very same state that if the Romeo &Juliet law were in effect back when I was 16 I am afraid my childrens father would have recieved the death penalty because I was 16 & he was 26. Big difference there, and a different issue at hand even. I value all the comments and signing of this petition, I really want to see to it that these lawmakers not forget that kids will be kids and kids are going to do what kids do & unfortunately that means having sex. Thanks again Jos Dana~.~

Gregory S (257)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:11 pm
Our children are maturing at a younger age perhaps in part because of all the hormones in the foods they eat. There are many laws that had their origins in protecting people. However, every law should be used and ruled upon on a case by case basis. We live in a time when ignorance and stupidity sometimes prevail.

Dana H (229)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:17 pm
Absolutely Gregory,especially when the two are acted upon by our children.It should be a case by case on every law, lets take a look back at who our children have for example setters ie: cigars & Monica Lewinski. Then they wonder WHY our kids are having sex at 13 & then they put the young men in prison.As you said Stupidity & ignorance sometimes prevails,very well stated, & ty. Dana~.~

Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:26 pm
Noted & Signed. TY

Dana H (229)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:34 pm
tyvm Jocelyn - Dana~.~

Melissa D (284)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 10:41 pm
Pedophiles should be locked up forever... but there IS a difference between being a pedophile, and being a teenager. You would think that our courts would be smart enough to realize this.

This does bring up the importance of educating our kids about safe sex! Education is POWER!!

Jim P (3257)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 11:45 pm
Petition signed.

TY, Dana.

Dana H (229)
Sunday April 13, 2008, 11:55 pm
TY Jim & Melissa - I agree that anyone who is forced to have sex with another should be locked up,but once again, not when they are kids being kids and dating and agreeing. Education is everything but then again we are not with our kids 24/7 so they are going to do what they want to do.Its just so sad that this has even gotten to this point in our society, where our babies are having lifetime sentences for doing things that have been happening in our society for year. Thanks again everyone for your signatures, notes & comments. Dana~.~

Melinda L (24)
Monday April 14, 2008, 12:27 am
Where were this girls mom and dad and why was she out at a club? am i the only one here who thinks that kids don't belong in a place like that until they are old enough to drive there? most clubs that i know of it's only for 16 to 20. and they card the kids. you can't get in if you don't have a driver's lisence. i hope that they got her some help with this and that she is no longer getting herself and others in trouble!! this boy should not be in trouble i hope that they can help him out with this some how!!!

Jay c (196)
Monday April 14, 2008, 12:30 am
This story makes me SO angry...not being a U S citizen I don't suppose there is any point in signing it....but I WILL forward!
If the girl had cried rape...he'd have probably NOT HAVE BEEN they would have said he was provoked...or that the girl had led him astray.....this should NEVER have gone to court & wasted public money in the 1st place but should have been left to BOTH SETS OF PARENTS to deal with....AS THEY SAW FIT!
As in my opinion some of the responsibility lay with them anyway!

Marian E (152)
Monday April 14, 2008, 12:35 am

Signed and pleased to do so. Thank you Dana, great effort!!!

Ginger S (115)
Monday April 14, 2008, 3:06 am
noted. sorry can't sign !!!!!!!!!!

Mary Duval (3)
Monday April 14, 2008, 3:44 am
Hi everyone I am this young man's mother Mary nice to meet you all and thank you to those who signed and forwarded to others. I truly am in the fight of my life to save Ricky but as well other young boys who are having consensual sex. The key is education not only for kids but parents. Two years ago I never thought a teen could be put on registry unless he/she committed violent rape or forceible rape/molestation. I mean, I no way condone teen sex, but reality is our children see it at school, in movies, at home on TV with such models like brittany Spears, Paris hilton etc. So we educate them to use protection due to unwanted teen pregnancy and STD's but never in a million year did I know since Ricky was three years older (age sixteen) he be labled aggravated which put him at predator status for life. There is a federal law in the adam Walsh Act for Romeo and Juliet if the "victim" is at least thirteen and "offender" no more then four years age difference then no registration if consensual, no force. However, states are changing this to be fourteen for victims age with five year age difference, like florida and Oregon. And some will not retroactivate to previous cases like Deleware who passed it at thirteen/seventeen last year. so any boy on the registry before this law will remain on as lifers. What is terrifying is many states like Arizona and California age of consent is eighteen and now more states are thinking of passing this same age of consent. If this happens I can guarantee many more teens like ricky, will be on our public registry's and no longer will we know who the real threats our to our children. As Donna mentioned there are several cases out there, some the most noted is Genarlo wilson, Joshua Lunsford, etc. Its time to stop this nonsense and please be aware many judges do not have the authority to toss cases like this out on their ear. These days they must punish according to the law as written. Again thank you for signing I truly appreciate anyone's help in getting the petition out thru blogs, my space, face book as well as college kids etc. This story may save another young man's life and future if he learns the unattended consequences of consensual sex. Cause no school is teaching this side of the story in sex education, no health dept or clinic when kids go get free birth control and parents are not told due to state law etc. Take care Mary (rickys mom) or

Jason B (142)
Monday April 14, 2008, 5:09 am

Enric Mestres Girbal (3)
Monday April 14, 2008, 5:37 am
I think sometimes, police act as if they were pedofils themselves. Why punish teenagers that only give way to their love? Have not them, police, politiciens, judges, have not them been younsters at one time? Shame to them all. There is not force, there is not violence, there is not rape, the only thing we can see is LOVE, love, that great feeling that moves the world...For God's shake, let them to be free and enjoy beeing toguether, let them MAKE LOVE becouse when they grow up they will call them by a diferent word.

Maryanne C (111)
Monday April 14, 2008, 6:19 am
Signed and noted,thank you.

Barry Seth (118)
Monday April 14, 2008, 6:41 am
Noted and signed

Tim Redfern (581)
Monday April 14, 2008, 8:30 am
Please also share this petition by email with 10 or more people. THIS IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN SIGNING IT. If each of us shares it with enough people to get more than one person to sign it, it will sweep the nation.

Thank you, Dana!

Kathleen H (304)
Monday April 14, 2008, 10:00 am
Noted and I fully support this. Kids will be kids no matter what. Violent acts should be punished not growing pains or young misguided love...

Ginger S (115)
Monday April 14, 2008, 10:43 am
yes . sign this one. if the girl gets pregnant and the boy doesn't step up to help support this child, who suffers then? let the teens have sex, if a pregnancy occurs, then there is one more DEADBEAT dad out there!!!!!! And the girl suffers as well as the child. This is ridiculous.

Nancy G (35)
Monday April 14, 2008, 11:32 am
Although I noted this and signed the petition, I want to say that if there was more to the story than this obviously one-sided petition, I wouldn't have signed. If there was rape, manipulation,deception by the boy, or a pregnancy then I do not consider this petition or my signature valid. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to even wonder about "the rest of the story," but this issue of teen sex not being treated as an adult crime isn't being played straight in too many cases. Since the first line of defense of too many males charged with rape, including statutory, is to claim sex as consensual, or the female as guilty of enticement, and lying about her age, my first impulse is to doubt the veracity of such claims on just face value.

That said, I'd like to see a law that treated teens 18 and under as teens, not as adults, but not one that excuses behaviors that are considered illegal. I believe they should somehow be punished, the perpetrator and parents should be held accountable, and amends made to the victim. Also, in my opinion, a 16 year old in any way taking advantage of a 13 year old for sexual purposes is still committing sexual abuse regardless of their ages. That includes sexual acts, photography, distribution of pornographic materials, etc. I'm equally as adamant that three 6 year olds who recently sexually harassed a 5 year old should be held accountable, and they along with their parents required to attend appropriate counseling. The difference between "child play" and behaviors more serious isn't difficult to identify. If not one to one, if any intimidation, if any emotional or physical harm then it is no longer play.

Kim Szabo (53)
Monday April 14, 2008, 4:52 pm
noted and signed. they have taken this too far. it's two teens and one that lied. like this has never happened before. but those charges are too much. i am praying for him

Aletta Kraan (146)
Monday April 14, 2008, 8:15 pm
noted and signed, thanks .

Mary Jane K (13)
Monday April 14, 2008, 8:59 pm
The system is not balanced, if it were, every time a under aged girl got pregnant, someone would go to jail. It is unfair to ruin this young mans life, because of one mistake. To have to be a registered sex offender for the rest of your life...... should be reserved for pedophiles and rapist.

Edward H (45)
Monday April 14, 2008, 10:49 pm
There are far too many cases involving teenage boys forcing teenage girls into having sex.

There are far too many cases involving teenage girls claiming they were forced into having sex with teenage boys when they later regret what they did.

There are far too many television shows showing promiscuity as a fun filled lifestyle.

There are far too few schools with dress codes that will help keep the distraction of the opposite sex's clothing, or lack thereof, from getting the harmones into a frenzy.

There are far too few parents keeping their children reigned in.

There is far too much freedom for teens today with cell phones, unlimited internet access, iPods, etc., that enable this type of behavior to go on.

There are all sorts of programs, in the media as well as in our educational system, that promote sexual activity in our teens.

Children today are physically maturing at a younger age than ever before.

The list, sadly, goes on...

But the saddest part, is when a parent keeps a tight reign on their children, society balks and calls them strict.

And when the children become sexually active because the parents back off, who pays? The children. The parents.

Parents have turned the raising of their children over to society. Parents need to take that control back. Take it away from the judges, social services, psychologists, PINS programs, etc.. Until parents do, no amount of signatures, no additional laws, and certainly, no amount of inactivity will solve the problem.

Melissa D (284)
Monday April 14, 2008, 11:24 pm
I am sorry, but I have to laugh... my ex was raised very strict Baptist... there was no rock and roll, hardly any tv, no parties, no staying out late, just good old fashioned church functions... and that is where he lost his viginity. Church camp at 16. I do not believe that it has much to do with our parents being too lienient with our children... one could not have parents that were more strict then my ex's were.

Melissa D (284)
Monday April 14, 2008, 11:26 pm
Or more understanding and open as my Mother was... and look at how wonderful I turned out!

Susan Hughes (145)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 3:52 am
I have noted, signed and passed on Dana
God help us because the system doesn't.
I am in shock at this inhuman way of treating a young boy by those in authority who should know better. Would they treat their own children like this for a genuine mistake??

Pauline F (16)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 6:04 am
Did any authorities bother to think how it would affect this child's future?

Past Member (0)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 11:45 am
This is sad. I have noted, signed and passed on.

Dana H (229)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 3:16 pm
In Response to Edward- I do appreciate & value your comments, however I cant thnk of one person here who has given up their rights for the government to take over their children,I think this was just something that Our government decided they were going to do & the end result was/is if you discipline a child they call the cops on you, try saying NO! to a child and see if CPS isnt called with some kind of an outlandish story. Once again kids are going to be kids & I dont care how strict you are with them.My homelife was strict, I was raised by law enforcement officers, and they were so strict they were allowed to abuse us kids and get away with it.So lets put your point into perspective here regarding this petition, if you are are strict and keep a tight leash on your children and they do what they want to do anyways and are found guilty of having consensual sex with their girlfriend, you feel & think that its okay that our government & laws are going to ruin your childs life forever by labeling them as a sex offender? because of a mistake they made as a kid? I find that really hard to believe. Thats what this petition is about, not about being stricter to our kids and taking that authority back from the government. Thats a different issue & possibly a different petition in itself. However I still Thank You for bringing up this debate - Respectfully Dana~.~

serge v (278)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 5:13 pm
DONE, thx Dana!

Carole S (338)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 6:35 pm

I appreciate this exchange of opinions, and particularly, the respectful way it's being handled.

This is a highly-charged issue . . . but I am pleased to see all sides handling it with pointed viewpoints, and yet respect.

Edward H (45)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 7:51 pm
Dana, I am sorry to have misled you by the way I said what I did, but, what I was saying in a round about way, is our kids will be kids, parents need to be parents, (not friends), and the government allows the kids to be taught/get away with SO much, (mostly because parents GAVE that right away by not fighting to keep it - but that is another issue), and then when the kids do what the parents can no longer prevent because the government won't let them, the government comes in and slams the gavel down. It's messed up!!!

Jo C (170)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 12:57 am
I really feel for this kid. I know what it is like to be in love at 16 and to have sex together. I also what it is like to be sexual abuse by some when you are 13-16. The two are completely different. I really hope something can be done for this poor boy.

Richard L (1518)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 1:12 am
Being learning disabled I had a very different up bringing. For the most part I was too shy and had a father whom teased my siblings when they dated. I realize this is not addressing the issue, but I'm just sharing that I did not have a girl friend until I was 24. This is a concern to be considered with great discretion. My very first job I had the pleasure of working with someone studying law and he shared some cases that would raise a hair or two.

I only hope that the truth come out and no ones life should be destroyed if there is false testimonials.

I also would hope that somehow, we could go back to following God's Law, for He is the one that created us and He knows what is best for us. I do have a problem with free will when it causes so much pain and suffering.

Dana H (229)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 8:57 am
In response to Edward - Thank You again for your comments, I will be the first to step up to the plate & admit & or appologize if I was or have been out of line due to miscommunication. If I took your previous comment out of context I do appologize. Understanding where you stand from your latest comment I am in agreement with, but since the government went ahead on their own & made it to where discipline is almost not even an option any longer, I personally feel I have to take the issue of consensual sex and labeling these kids and ruining their lives permantely first, and then follow with the issues here that both you & Richard have addressed.Trust me they too will be addressed.Once again I thank you for your comments and support & interest in this very important issue. Dana~.~

Dana H (229)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 9:02 am
I want to thank Carole, Richard, & Jo for your comments and looking @ this petition as well. Everyones input and just knowing that they are aware that this kind of thing is happening makes my heart feel better, especially for those who have children.Its going to be along hard fight for Ricky, but I am going to give it all that I have to make certain that the lives of those I care for and for those that are strangers to me dont ever have to endure what Ricky or his Mother Mary are having to endure right now. Thanks again from the bottom of my heart to each of you. Dana~.~

. (0)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 10:54 am
Noted,signed and forward....THANK YOU

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 11:33 am
thank you, Dana
noted and signed

Dana H (229)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 11:40 am
Thanks to both you & Mike for your participation. Dana~.~

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 12:57 pm
In my believe, this should not be treated under the same laws as adults. I also believe, that old fashioned methods of "abstinence or safe yourself till marriage" are just plain simple outdated and even wrong. Teenagers will and in my eyes should experiment with sex - but take precautions, such as condoms. Girls are starting to menstruate at a much younger age now then when I was growing up. Here in Greece, girls get their periods at the age of 11 to 13 - so, you can imagine what raging hormons will do to the kids. Teens involved in sexual practises do tend to lie and deceive. I did, to be honest. It is in our nature, to succumb to raging hormons.
I find it to be a double standard and false holiness to produce and promote films with very explicit sexual contents, plaster our bill boards with nudes and splatter magazines more and more with minimalistic dressed females and males. It sounds so utterly Victorian, when everything to do with the body was "taboo".
Why does nobody adress the real issue behind it? How come don't we talk about talking to our children? And even as I typed this sentence I made THE most undamental mistake To instead of WITH!!!!
Children are developing beyond our limits - sex - is a part of us.

This young boy is definately not a pedophille - kids having sex yes, but they are among themselves. 14 or 13 year old girls and a 16 year old boy - well, I don't see much of a difference in their mental and physical development.

Mary, you as a Mom - I really must tell you, that I am sorry you have to live through this witch hunt. Your live must be very difficult and that of your other kids as well. You might have to move in the end to escape the stigma - I whish you the best.


Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 1:05 pm

"".....young girls getting young boys into a dreadfulyl dire straits from being promiscuous -"""

Young girls??? Hello - boys are as much responsible to prevent pregnacy as girls. Please educate your kids about the importance of condoms. It will save lives.

Dana H (229)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 1:26 pm
TY Isabella for your comments, honesty and for the support. Dana~.~

Marena C (200)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 1:51 pm
Noted but can't sign as I am not a US Citizen and my signature would not count.

Sandra Weston (24)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 2:14 pm
Wow!! The punishment does not fit the crime!! Kids will be kids!!! In this case the female alleged victim lied about her age, yet no punishment was issued to her. That is a double standard. That is like lying about drinking aloohol, or smoking. That is a crime too. What was her punishment. In this case I think that Rickey was under the impression that he was having sex with a likewise 16 year old girl. Therefore, depending on the state Rickely is a minor and should be put under his parents care,given probation, and intense counseling. This whole situation is going to devistate him for the rest of his life!!! He did not try to commit rape! The girl lied!!! Was he careless, yes!!! Should his reputation be ruined?, not able to get a job??, (he will never think about dating again the same), be able to date responsibly, yes. The punishment does not fit the crime in this case, and therefore is punitive. I contend and decree that this young man be put on house arrest and put back with his Mom and Dad immediately post hast. What if it was my son??? I know how I would feel outraged!! Thanks to this girl, the good girls out there are going to get a bad rap too!!!

Rodney Hoover (2)
Wednesday April 16, 2008, 10:54 pm
A significant obstacle to the reformation of our current laws is that the criminal justice system has become a major economic boondoggle in America today. To place a child on a watch list for life will mean more federal money to the states and hence to the individuals who own the corrections contracts providing these services to the states. These are fat-cats that are not willing to let go of their stranglehold on that segment of our economy. Here in Texas, Governor George Bush could not build prison cells fast enough to keep up with explosion of the inmate population, almost entirely composed of misdemeanor drug arrests which changed to be prosecuted as felonies so that longer prison terms can be handed down. There is a fortune being made by those providing contract corrections services to this and many other states.

I look back at the innocent childhood sexual antics that most of us over the age of 55 experienced in the 1950's and 1960's, and there was nothing malicious or evil in any of the actions. It was a playful atmosphere created by both boys and girls who participated in it while discovering their sexual identity. Those same behaviors are considered sexually predatory in nature today, and can be prosecuted by overly zealous district attorney’s who are trying to make a name for themselves in law enforcement. The pendulum moves far into each extreme when it swings, and there will eventually be a social retaliation to this current climate of sexual oppression which will mirror the 1960's in many facets. The American society swings through acting out the phases of immaturity every decade or so, and hopefully some day in the far distant future, we will resolve our immaturity issues and allow our society to function as an adult. Only then will we find real equality for all under the law.

Fey Catarina Dolphin (69)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 8:08 am
Well said, Isabella.

Why is there charges on anybody? But they are both kids, and kids will be kids. Young girls will sometimes fib to cover for a boy they love so he may have known the truth that she was almost his age, as in a few years younger but not the same exact age of 16. Boys lie about their ages too.But what difference does it make, if they are both over 13 & under 18, they are both teens, but legally still minors. There is so little age difference between 14 & 16 anyway. If it was not forced, then I do not see why it is a legal matter when the girls parents do not want charges either. This is a parental matter not a state one, eh?

If this is what really happened then I feel sorry for both the Teens & the Mothers. Because this whole legal thing is totally ridiculous.

Fey Catarina Dolphin (69)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 9:09 am
I went back and read this again, and it says the girl told him she was 'almost 16' so he knew she was not 16 (the age of consent yet) and knowing she was not of age, he did not bother to check to see how old she really was before having sex with her risking that she could have been even younger and I think all the calling the girl a liar for this is not helping and could be why it seems to them he is still not taking responsibility for any of it by blaming all on the then 13 year old..
That being said, it still absolutely crazy IMHO to blame either one so harshly when they were both so young. Kids make simple mistakes and their lives should not be ruined for them. I do not think it is right that they kept changing the laws & rules & punishments in his case and I think that is entrapment. Regardlesss of the rules in Ok. he agreed to the punishment they gave him in Iowa, and they should not be able to just change it to ruin his life even more.
And why this boy? Plenty of teens have sex without getting this kind of overkill punishment. One who was only 13 branded a liar for life, and one 16 branded a sex-offender for life, when neither one of them is a liar or a sex-offender. They are just teens who let there feelings & hormones get the better of them a few times. If they do not give teens the privileges of adults, then they should not give them the punishments of adults.
IMHO the whole case should be overturned! You should take it to the supreme court because both the teen minors's rights have been violated.

Catherine R (59)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 9:30 am
I totally agree with Fey Dolphin! Again thanks for the "heads up!" Keep sending! Take care everyone!

Edward H (45)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 10:27 am
Isabella, I may take a beating here, but:

""".....young girls getting young boys into a dreadfulyl dire straits from being promiscuous -"""

Young girls??? Hello - boys are as much responsible to prevent pregnacy as girls. Please educate your kids about the importance of condoms. It will save lives."

I completely disagree. GIRLS are MORE RESPONSIBLE. Why? Unless forced, the girl/woman has the choice to say yes or no and the boy/man MUST adhere to that choice. HOWEVER, in a perfect world, I do agree that they should be equally responsible.

Past Member (0)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 2:49 pm
Thank you so much for posting this Dana.

Mary Duval (3)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 4:27 pm
Thank you Donna for giving this to the Care2 forum. I have seen a few comments if this "is the truth" and I know you all do not know me or my son ricky but I assure you the journalists who are writing these stories and doing the radio shows ask for proof as in court records or police report to verify the facts of this case. Ricky, sadly, is not the only boy in this situation as you can see from the site and clicking on the link ABC 20/20 "Age of consent" show. There are teens across this country being criminalized for consensual sex due to three and four year age differences. There is a federal law, in the Adam Walsh Act, which has a Romeo/Juliet clause in section 111 which I push for all states to enact with a five year age difference as it only allows four years. There have been some high profile cases of teens who walked from registration due to there standing in the community and I just want just laws for all our son's not just the priviledged. If we do not stop using blanket laws how will any of us know who the real predators are we should be looking for near our children?

Again thank you for signing and forwarding.


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Claire F (65)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 9:01 pm
Noted and signed.

Penelope P (222)
Friday April 18, 2008, 12:56 am
THankyou noted

Dave A (27)
Friday April 18, 2008, 7:48 am
This is an issue I will need to look at before I decide how to handle it. I don't want to lean one way and later regret that situation.

I disagree that kids are growing up too fast. Their reproductive organs kick in high gear at the same age now as they always did. What I look at more is the maturity problem. Kids are kids longer than before, my Mother told me she was taking care of younger siblings and cooking and baking when she was 6 years old. At 13 she left home and went to work doing the same for another family. She was 40 when I was born and I'm 46 now so you can see that was a long time ago.

Of course that still happens today in societies where there is poverty and of course with those damn slave rings. But over all kids can relax more and depending on their initiative can live at home and attend school into their 20's without really having to really grow up and take on big adult responsibilities.

As for sex, there's always someone in every gender trying to get into someone's pants. I was at it and there were girls who were more than willing. Parental control has nothing to do with it, in some strict sense they can hold them down for a while, but the animal lust comes out eventually.

Should two teens of the same age and willing participants be punished for having sex? Back when I was a teen I guess I would have said yes. Now, I need to think more about it because there are predators out there who would try to use that to their advantage.

Dave A (27)
Friday April 18, 2008, 8:19 am
Back in that last post in the last paragraph I meant to say "no" not "yes".Tired eyes and fingers.

Past Member (0)
Friday April 18, 2008, 8:33 am
Noted & Signed

Goddess L (213)
Friday April 18, 2008, 10:51 am
We have no human rights any more due to the New world order, it is totally wrong this is! Noted and signed!

Mary Zoglio (169)
Friday April 18, 2008, 11:35 am

. (0)
Friday April 18, 2008, 5:00 pm
signed thank you

Bill McGlone (103)
Friday April 18, 2008, 5:12 pm
Noted,signed,and passed on.."Ah youth. Why is it wasted on the young."

Dave A (27)
Friday April 18, 2008, 5:29 pm
Gave this a good going over and I see now exactly what's up. It's so sad that the laws made to protect can also tear your life apart. It's obvious that something sinister is happening with cases like this and glee for our courts to pursue those that commit innocent crimes that are so borderline. If they spent so much time and money tracking down real crime offenders our people would have no fears.

Roxann C (398)
Friday April 18, 2008, 5:38 pm
noted and signed

Dave A (27)
Friday April 18, 2008, 5:59 pm
Darn right I signed it.

Dorothy T (27)
Saturday April 19, 2008, 2:55 am
noted and signed

Shane W (95)
Saturday April 19, 2008, 8:36 am
noted and signed. I am sick of the politicians wanting to lock up our children for just being teenagers.

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 19, 2008, 7:48 pm
Good luck and God be with you Mary. When I think of the dreadful mistakes I made as a teenager - the utter irresponsible folly of some of my behavior (and I was a good little Catholic girl who went to Convent school and was very strictly supervised) - I am stunned by the nightmare Ricky faces. Being punished for the rest of *my* life for being a stupid, selfish, reckless, boundary pushing teenager is like the script to some kind of horror movie. I guess that's how he must feel.

Past Member (0)
Sunday April 20, 2008, 1:51 am

Sara S. I think you really hit the nail on the head - growing up is so much about "NOT being caught" or "Sailing by without" ..... I must agree, we all done some pretty stupid stuff, we just weren't caught and that is all that is to it.

Edward - I just saw your note to me - as I am a girl and if I would have a daughter I would tell her - no I would provide her with birth control and insist that she would use it. Not for the boys sake, but for herself.
If I had a son, I would provide him with condoms etc and urge him to use them every time - so he would not contract a std or end up paying for a mistake of the minute. Just because one gets pregnat doesn't mean only one is responsible. In the heat of passion, both need to be able to raise awareness and responsibility.
Otherwise last time I checked 2 where still needed to make babies?

Past Member (0)
Sunday April 20, 2008, 3:58 am
Noted and signed.
They are just children, we all makes mistakes at that age, but should not have to suffer that sort of consequence for the rest of their lives.

Jason T (144)
Sunday April 20, 2008, 2:32 pm
Noted and signed, thank you. This circumstance is unfortunate and may be a lot more common than we would like to think.

Shan D (36)
Wednesday April 23, 2008, 3:35 pm
Hello. I signed the petition and I am a mother of 2 girls and 1 boy from ages 10-14 yrs old. From what I have read, no the boy AND girl shouldn't have been sexual, but this boy does NOT DESERVE this kind of justice or lack there of. I'm dealing with my 55 yr .old ex husband molesting one of my girls, and it's harder to keep them safe from him...then this poor boys mistake. I'll be Praying, because God does have a plan for Ricky :) Love, Shanan

L. T (34)
Sunday May 4, 2008, 9:34 am
Noted and signed awhile back and also commented here but I accidentally deleted what I had written before. I hate when that happens because I forgot to save it as well. I'll try to make this long story short if possible. First, this situation should never, never have gone to the authorities in Iowa who think they know what they are doing but obviously do not. This should have been between the teenagers and their parents. There is way too much governmental involvement with families these days. Only in such cases as abuse and heinous crimes should they be involved. It's true that both teenagers made a bad judgment call but the punishment given to Ricky is ludicrous and only shows how insane and out of touch the courts and the authoritative personnel in the legal system are. I have many horror stories about the court system here in California and I sympathize with Ricky and his family and can relate on how corrupt and inept the legal system in the U.S has become. Some might say that the U.S. has a better system than other countries but I would have to disagree because unless people have been outside the U.S. they honestly don't know how other countries treat their citizens and prisoners except maybe for "CHINA". There is always room for improvement while common sense and positive solutions should be implemented to help people instead of negative punishment which almost always causes more negativity. What really is mind boggling is the fact that the President of the U.S. condones torture and confirmed it recently. When the legal system fails and Congress does not abide by their oath to protect the Constitution and serve the people in taking the necessary steps to impeach Pres.Bush and V.P.Cheney, then it should prove to everyone in the U.S. how broke and corrupt this country really is. In closing I honestly hope that Ricky gets exonerated and can lead a fairly normal life again. Thanks Dana for posting and Richard for sending this to me.
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