Monday January 11, 2010, 9:45 am
They are scientist... Maybe they know more than Al Gore who is only out to pad his bank account.... I live in the south and just wondering where has global warming been the past few weeks???
Here's an interesting link:
This is an article on climate change consensus within the scientific community. It mentions that 97% of the world's scientists that specialize in climatology agree that climate change is happening and that it is being caused by humans.
So, basically, you can choose to believe 97% of the world's foremost experts in the field, or you can base your opinion on what denialists think.
Al Gore did not find Global Warming. All Al Gore did was Expose what some Scientists were finding. Al Gore is not a scientist. If all Al Gore wanted to do was pad his bank account why is he giving so much of his money away? Al Gore is not part of the 97% listed above.
Scarlett have you looked in the Acidic Oceans yet? Have you looked into Deforestation Effects? Meat Eating Effects? Cattle Effects? Google "Acidic Oceans" Now, if you can't get to the Sea you can still watch what's going on.
Sorry all but I am not going to any link she posts up. The last time I did a nasty Virus was sent to my computer and I do not trust anything she says. She has been doing this for years. Manipulating everything she can find. I spent months reading her copy and pastes.
Climate Change does not JUST have to do with Temperature of Hot / Cold. It also has to do with the pollutions in our water supply and Oceans. Many poisons are going in to our water from man made pollutions not earth changes.
Monday January 11, 2010, 1:17 pm
Ha! Spoken like a true Judy Cross!
Now lets get it out in the open. See if you can answer something directly put to you and truthfully. ARE you Judy Cross who was kicked out of Care2? Now don't lie. Don't avoid it. Don't throw it back in my face. Because if you are I'm sure Care2 management would like to know about it.
So be a big person and tell the truth.
And don't forget as a wise man once said "The liar is inevitably a coward, and the coward is invevitably a liar'.
Monday January 11, 2010, 2:01 pm
That was then, this is now.
After Climategate. the fraud is more obvious to more people....and many new papers have been published on the influence of the sun and its magnetic field on earth's climate. We have a demonstration of it right now. There is worry about a repeat of a Solar Minimum like the Dalton.
Leaving the sun aside, we still have various cycles to look to for climate change...not a beneficial trace gas.
There is no long term correlation between temperature rise and CO2.
Study shows CFCs, cosmic rays major culprits for global warming
"In his research, Lu discovers that while there was global warming from 1950 to 2000, there has been global cooling since 2002. The cooling trend will continue for the next 50 years, according to his new research observations."
"Among the most prominent of the scientists is Professor Mojib Latif, a leading member of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which has been pushing the issue of man-made global warming on to the international political agenda since it was formed 22 years ago.
Prof Latif, who leads a research team at the renowned Leibniz Institute at Germany’s Kiel University, has developed new methods for measuring ocean temperatures 3,000ft beneath the surface, where the cooling and warming cycles start.
He and his colleagues predicted the new cooling trend in a paper published in 2008 and warned of it again at an IPCC conference in Geneva last September.
Last night he told The Mail on Sunday: ‘A significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles – perhaps as much as 50 per cent.
'They have now gone into reverse, so winters like this one will become much more likely. Summers will also probably be cooler, and all this may well last two decades or longer.
‘The extreme retreats that we have seen in glaciers and sea ice will come to a halt. For the time being, global warming has paused, and there may well be some cooling.’
Monday January 11, 2010, 2:24 pm
Mari:, in regard to what you said about Judy: "Sorry all but I am not going to any link she posts up. The last time I did a nasty Virus was sent to my computer and I do not trust anything she says. She has been doing this for years. Manipulating everything she can find. I spent months reading her copy and pastes."
Thanks for speaking the truth about Judy.
And Judy, can't answer a forthright question honestly and openly? And because of that you are DISMISSED as far as I'm concerned as having a scintilla of credibility in ANYTHING you say.
"A coward is inevitably a liar, and a liar is inevitably a coward" as a wise man once said.
And you will be flagged for any trolling or flaming I see one iota of from you.
We debate the same thing over and over again & wow it was TWO years ago. You can see on this link as it's a care2 note what she does..... It takes hours tracking down her resources and yes I followed them for a while and then boom I was hit with a nasty virus as if it was planned. I do not wish to hurt people. I've converted my entire home into clean energy, changed my whole life style. I spent thousands of dollars removing OIL heat from my home and now Exxon/Oil will never get a penny from me.
It's gotten to the point where denialists are going to kill people. I do not care about Oil, Exxon, Wall Street, Stock Market Investments, in oil. No amount of money is worth more than life. Judy is trying to claim humans can't have an effect on the environment. There is pure evidence we can effect the environment. Our Water & Oceans for one example. This is over looked as they battle about hot and cold Temperatures only. As you can see Judy will not answer my question directly. She is denying or denouncing man made pollutions? Mercury is a very serious issue and The Sun didn't do this. The earth goes through changes yes I agree with that but these changes are very well Man Made and not normal.
I might make typos from time to time but I do not outright lie to hurt people or the planet.
(Judy Endless Judy)
Tuesday September 9, 2008
National Geographic Says... Don't Blame The Sun
Sunspots alter the amount of energy Earth gets from the sun, but not enough to impact global climate change
I already flagged her and told Care2 who she was. Through all of this who I really feel bad for is Chris Otahal. He is a real Scientist - Biologist here on Care2 who sees first hand what Climate Change is doing to Nature, Animals and so forth. Judy will follow him for days and it's a constant battle. Chris Otahal works during the day, comes here during the day, goes home at night and works again. We have spent endless time on Judy Cross as Dale H has as well. She has Chris O working sometimes 24 seven. This is not right. These are people trying to protect this entire planet.
My Sons father is a Real Scientist, for over 20 years! We know all about the climate denial and it's all for money. There are plenty of scientists out there that can't be bought with money. But they will continue to publish fraud to confuse the public. I spend a lot of time with these scientists ones with real degrees who work in the field of different areas. One reason I get so upset over the issue.
Yes, I have had my days of Judy attacks one reason Dale H has not come back. Ignore her Ken it's not worth the effort. Ignore her and she might go away.
I feel sorry for you Ken I know all to well about Judy:(
Monday January 11, 2010, 10:33 pm
Judy, you don't play the victim very well. BTW, having known you since you first invaded Care2 about three years ago, I know that you are now on your THIRD account here. The first one only lasted a few months. I'm surprized your second one lasted at long as it did, two years. We will see how long you last this time around.
Let's assume that you are correct. If the climate change crusade is nothing but a scam, why would thousands of top scientists agree to participate in it and thus risk their careers? The ones involved in "Climategate" were only a half-dozen or so and they were mainly concerned with dendroclimatology, which is indeed highly questionable. There are dozens of other fields of study and many, many other scientists involved in them that are on a more solid footing. Creationists to this day scream about Piltdown Man as a hoax and claim that therefore evolution must itself be fraudulant. They appeal to religious bias, just as you do to political and economic biases, rather than scientific objectivity. Let the issue of Climategate play itself out, and focus on all the other evidences for climate change. None of the "Climategate" scientists were involved in detailing the actual properties of greenhouse gases. Want to deal with that?
Tuesday January 12, 2010, 4:36 am
The reason 'anyone gets so upset' with Judy Cross is that she hijacks other people's news story threads and monopolizes them. That's the truth.
She seeks to control other people's news story threads. That's the truth.
Notice when Mari said she got a virus from one of Judy's links----Judy never blinked. No response. Never apologized. No acknowledgement. No consideration, no nothing. What kind of a person does that? What kind of a person is like that?
Care2 rules of conduct prohibit me from stating fully and exactly what I think of Judy Cross.