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Mari
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articles in "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic," a series by Coby Beck containing responses to the most common skeptical arguments on global warming. There are four separate taxonomies; arguments...



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Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:40 am


Denialism is a disorder. It is an extremely dangerous disorder that threatens to kill the human species and all animals if we allowed it to.

I personally know a number of people that deny climate change. That is what has brought me to put this in the news here at Care2. This is a serious issue. If denialists are allowed to spread lies unchallenged and poison the opinions of too many people, their disinformation could easy result in many people dying. If people do not realize the truth and do not take action against global warming, the consequences will almost certainly be deadly for large numbers of people. Those people may even be you or I.

If global warming continues unchecked, considerable areas of densely inhabited land will be permanently flooded. Millions will be forced to migrate to new areas. Such huge numbers of refugees will be certain to result in conflicts and great hardships.

Floods and changing weather patterns will cause areas that are currently prime farmland to experience crop failures. These crop failures are likely to occur worldwide. The result will be massive famines.

Huge numbers of refugees suffering from famines will be a likely breeding ground for all sorts of nasty diseases. There will be many deaths and much suffering.

Hearing claims that global warming is untrue is scary. The possibility that those false claims may be believed by gullible people is even more scary. They are scary to me because their denial could very well result in death and suffering for myself, my loved ones, nature, wildlife, & humans all around the planet.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/577339509/574408

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:42 am


Blog: The "chain of reason" in the global warming issue By Dale H

There are four links in that chain, and all must be solid for the man-made global warming issue to be valid. Nothing else matters.

Has CO2 levels in the Earth's atmosphere been increasing over the past century? Scientific reports indicate that is the case.

Is CO2 a gas that causes heat to be retained in an atmosphere, thus making it a "greenhouse gas"? Scientific reports indicate that is the case.

Does human industrial and transportative processes produce vast quantities of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere? Scientific reports indicate that is the case.

Has the average global temperature actually increased over the past few decades? Scientific reports indicate that is the case.

Those who throw around issues like nuclear power, questionable reports of exceptional weather, recent solar output, or natural climate changes in ancient or prehistoric times, only seek to cloud the issue. Unless and until you deal directly with the four central issues at the heart of the global warming issue, you have no real case.

The chain of reason remains unbroken.

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/424786

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:43 am


White House should not hide the facts

The White House has a considerable record of charges that it attempted to edit or censor scientific information to conform with political goals. At this point, more than 12,000 scientists have signed a statement criticizing the Bush administration for manipulating science. With the many public health challenges confronting the nation and the world, Americans have a need and a right to know the truth. All our lives could depend on it.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/577339509/538113

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/538184

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:52 am

Climate Change: It's Time for Congress to Act

Target: U.S. Congress
Sponsor: Environmental Defense

Governors all over the country are taking the lead in capping greenhouse gas emissions to stop global warming.

Now, it's Congress' turn.

The year is almost over, and Congress has not yet taken action on global warming, let alone scheduled a vote.

Tell Congress that you want them to cap global warming emissions in order to cut CO2 pollution by 80% by 2050.

Signatures: 4,715

Goal: 10,000

Deadline: Ongoing...

Please Sign & Forward this petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/322848148



 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:53 am

Tell Presidential Candidates to Propose Real Global Warming Solutions!

It's about time American politicians stop paying lip service to global warming and start proposing real solutions!


Our 2008 presidential candidates will have to deal with the greatest environmental problem we have ever faced. As citizens of a country that is one of the world's biggest polluters, we must make sure that they don't just talk about it, but actually have a detailed plan for combating it.

An aggressive plan to combat global warming must include:

Imposing a cap on CO2 emissions across the country and sticking to it, without special rules for rich companies.

Increasing fuel efficiency standards dramatically for commuter vehicles as well as commercial trucks.
Cleaning up our current electric and other power plants.

Investing in alternative, cleaner energies such as wind power, and providing incentives for companies who develop and use these technologies.

Please join Deepak Chopra today in telling the 2008 presidential candidates to make solutions to global warming a top priority.

Signatures: 2,824

Goal: 50,000

Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/173707626

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:56 am

Support the Global Warming Wildlife Survival Act

Target: U.S. Senate
Sponsor: Care2.com

Polar bears are starving and drowning as sea ice melts around them. Hawaiian monk seal pups are dying as their beaches disappear under rising seas. And penguin populations are declining as their world literally breaks up under their not-so-happy feet.

Unless we address the impacts of global warming, America's wildlife are in trouble. Fortunately, the U.S. House of Representatives recently passed forward-looking energy legislation (H.R. 3221) that would take the important first steps needed to protect polar bears, monk seals and other wildlife from the harmful effects of global warming.

Send a message to your Senators today and urge them to support the Global Warming Survival Act!

Signatures: 3,720
Goal: 10,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/949005429



 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:58 am


Global Warming: Urge Presidential Hopefuls to Take a Stand!

Target: 2008 Presidential Candidates
Sponsor: League of Conservation Voters

As candidates from all parties are throwing their hats into the ring and traveling the country in search of public support, NOW is the time to make a huge splash. We have a tremendous opportunity to make sure our next president is committed to solving global warming.

Help turn up the heat! Show that solving global warming is a priority. Sign the Heat Is On Petition below. Help us reach 50,000 signatures!

Signatures: 60,195
Goal: 50,000
Deadline: 2-7-2008

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/113898007


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:02 am

Send Congress Their Global Warming To-Do List!

Target: US Congress
Sponsor: Environmental Defense

Congress is coming back in September, and they now have less than two months left to pass meaningful legislation on global warming before year's end.

We cannot afford for politicians to be wishy-washy on this issue. Scientists agree that we must act now in order to stop the terrible consequences of global warming.

Congress has three very important tasks for this session:

* House and Senate leaders must continue to focus on global warming and keep the pressure on committee leaders to produce effective legislation,
* Committee leaders must draft and mark up effective global warming legislation to send to the floor of both Houses of Congress for a vote, and
* Both Houses of Congress must pass effective global warming legislation before the end of the 2007 legislative session.

It's simple enough. Sign this petition today to send your members of Congress their Global Warming To-Do List!

Signatures: 32,822
Goal: 20,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/455058974


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:05 am




We Need Global Warming Legislation THIS YEAR!

Target: Senator Harry Reid, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Your Congressperson, Your Senators
Sponsor: Environmental Defense

When it comes to fighting global warming, we are running out of time.

Scientists tell us that we must stabilize the concentration of carbon dioxide pollution in the earth's atmosphere at 450 parts per million in order to avoid the catastrophic effects of global warming.

To reach this target, America needs to cut its CO2 pollution by 80% by 2050, which is a 2% reduction per year if we start NOW.

But enacting changes can take years, and we may not have a system in place until 2010 or later. The longer we delay, the deeper we have to cut to hit our 80% reduction target by 2050.

Take action! Ask your Legislators, "What are you waiting for?"

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/897411701

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:08 am


Liquid Coal is a Bad Deal for Global Warming

Target: US House of Representatives; US Senate
Sponsor: Sierra Club

Although its proponents claim that liquid coal is a cure-all to our nation's energy problems, the truth is that liquid coal is plagued with economical and environmental downsides from the time coal is mined until long after the liquid is burned.

Liquid coal releases almost double the global warming emissions per gallon as regular gasoline, making a hybrid filled with liquid coal as dirty as a Hummer H3 running on regular gas.

Liquid coal also requires huge amounts of water, and would lead to an over 40% increase in coal mining just to replace a mere 10% of our nation's transportation fuels. Proponents of liquid coal also want the government to funnel billions in subsidies and tax breaks to artificially create an entirely new industry. Liquid coal is arguably the dirtiest, most expensive energy gamble we could take.

Liquid Coal is a Bad Deal for Global Warming - Tell Congress to find clean solutions to our energy needs!

Signatures: 25,122
Goal: 5,000
Deadline: Ongoing...


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/724230939



 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:12 am


Congratulate Al Gore on the Nobel Peace Prize

Target: Al Gore
Sponsor: Care2

(www.care2.com)

Signatures: 25,129
Goal: 100,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

The Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Al Gore and the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for their work to raise awareness about the threat of global warming.

With his passion and hard work, Al Gore has demonstrated that committed citizens can make a difference. He has inspired millions to stand together against one of the biggest challenges of our time.

This year's Nobel selection sends a strong message that to achieve peace we need to live in harmony with one another and with the environment. By stopping the destructive effects of global warming, we are not only preventing future conflicts ignited by lack of resources, but we are also fighting for our own survival.

Please take a few minutes to sign our petition to say "Congratulations!" to Al Gore for this remarkable achievement and urge him to continue his critical work to fight global warming!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/162701254

Please take a moment to sign and forward to friends and family if you haven't

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:13 am


UNION-TRIBUNE EDITORIAL
Censoring science


White House should not hide the facts

October 30, 2007
Although President Bush has every right to have his policy goals articulated by his appointees, recent reports of top scientists being censored by the administration are indeed troubling. Altering presentations does not alter reality.


The White House has a considerable record of charges that it attempted to edit or censor scientific information to conform with political goals. Among them:


Earlier this year, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service was accused of censoring experts on polar bears about the potentially harmful effects of climate change on the creatures.


Goddard Institute for Space Studies Director James Hansen said earlier this year that Bush administration officials had attempted to stop him from delivering a speech in which he urged prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases.


As he was leaving his position as U.S. surgeon general, Dr. Richard Carmona testified before a House committee that the White House would not allow him to speak on aspects of stem cell research, comprehensive sex education, emergency contraception or other politically charged topics.


In 2003, Council on Environmental Quality Director Philip Cooney is said to have made more than 300 changes to an Environmental Protection Agency report on global warming, supposedly exaggerating uncertainties about global warming.

The latest example of questionable political involvement in matters of science involves Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Gerberding, a highly regarded infectious disease specialist, was set to deliver written testimony to a Senate panel on how climate change could effect the spread of disease.


Gerberding was prepared to present 12 pages of testimony to the committee, but after submission to the Office of Management and Budget for review, the testimony was reduced to six pages. Gone, among other statements, was one stating: “Populations in Midwestern and Northeastern cities are expected to experience more heat-related illnesses as heat waves increase in frequency, severity and duration.”


White House spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters Gerberding's testimony was cut because, “in the draft there were broad characterizations about climate change that didn't align with the IPCC.” The IPCC is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which periodically issues reports on climate change research, including two this year. A number of scientists at UCSD's Scripps Institution of Oceanography have been involved in drafting these reports. Further examination, however, revealed no inconsistencies between the IPCC report and Gerberding's speech.


At this point, more than 12,000 scientists have signed a statement criticizing the Bush administration for manipulating science. With the many public health challenges confronting the nation and the world, Americans have a need and a right to know the truth. All our lives could depend on it.

Link To Full Story:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20071030/news_lz1ed30bottom.html

Please Note this Care2 News Story:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/577339509/538113

 

. (0)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:15 am
I am with you Mari, we can't wait till the politicians come out from under their desk.
Something else, don't forget: BOYCOTT JAPANESE GOODS - TILL THE KILLING STOPS. Pass it around please , thanks
 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:15 am

Tell the EPA their CA waiver denial is an outrage!

Target: Stephen Johnson, EPA Administrator
Sponsor: Environmental Defense

The Environmental Protection Agency has denied California's waiver request to cut global warming pollution from automobiles. This decision ignores the science and the law.

Seventeen other states plan to implement similar programs. EPA's action is nothing more than a heavy handed stroke to limit the authority of states to fight global warming and protect our environment.

It is reported that EPA Administrator Johnson's staff even recommended approving the waiver because it met all the necessary standards.

California is leading the country to fight global warming, and the EPA and Administrator Johnson are holding them back.

Send a letter today to Administrator Johnson expressing your outrage at this unfounded decision!

Signatures: 943
Goal: 10,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/719802574


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:17 am


Protect Our Wildlife - Jumpstart a Clean Energy Future!

Target: U.S. Congress
Sponsor: National Wildlife Federation

The clock is ticking for arctic foxes, penguins,caribous and many other majestic species.

Global warming is the most dangerous threat to the future of wildlife. But there is still time to help move forward essential energy legislation to fight global warming - and protect wildlife habitat!

The U.S. House and Senate passed great pieces of energy legislation this summer, filled with landmark energy and vehicle efficiency provisions designed to reduce global warming pollution. Now, can the two chambers bring their bills together into one final law?

Congress MUST pass an energy bill in 2007 to lay the groundwork for strong, comprehensive global warming legislation in 2008 and beyond. Spark your representatives to move this legislation to the finish line. Ask them to pass a bill that:

* Requires the use of more renewable electricity;
* Requires automobiles to go farther on a gallon of gas; and
* Protects our public lands and wildlife from oil and gas drilling.

Urge Congress to pass a strong clean energy bill

Signatures: 14,325
Goal: 8,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/303156149





 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:20 am


Counter Climate Crisis - Take the Pledge

Target: United States Senate
Sponsor: Greenpeace Project Thin Ice, Greenpeace

We can't afford to wait. Already the Arctic has lost over 386,100 square miles of sea ice - an area larger than Texas - due to climate change. This fragile ecosystem, while inhospitable to human life, supports polar bears, walrus and numerous other creatures. And they are all in peril because of the effects of global warming.

Pledge to fight global warming, and call on your elected officials to limit our global warming pollution and provide strong incentives for renewable sources and energy efficiency!

Higher temperatures threaten dangerous consequences: drought, disease, floods, and the loss of precious endangered species. And amid the threat from rising oceans and extreme weather, global warning’s effects have already begun.

But solutions are in sight: We know where most heat-trapping gasses come from: power plants and vehicles. And we know how to curb their emissions: modern technologies and stronger laws.

Take the Pledge to fight global warming, and we'll send your message - "Counter the Climate Crisis!" - to Congress!

Signatures: 63,654
Goal: 100,000
Deadline: 4-28-2006

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/816188111

PLEASE STILL TAKE THIS PLEDGE!


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:22 am


Join Leonardo DiCaprio in Protecting Critical Habitat for Polar Bears

Target: Secretary Dirk Kempthorne, Department of the Interior
Sponsor: Natural Resources Defense Council

"As one of the first species to face extinction as a direct result of global warming, the bear’s future is literally melting away along with the Arctic sea ice."
- Leonardo DiCaprio, NRDC Trustee

Polar bears are completely dependent on Arctic sea ice to survive. But a new study by the U. S. Geological Survey shows that optimal polar bear habitat is in decline and much of it will be gone by mid-century.

Polar bears are already suffering the effects of global warming. Birth rates are falling, fewer cubs are surviving and more bears are drowning. There have been documented reports of polar bears drowning and starving -- and of snowy dens collapsing on newborn cubs and their mothers from unseasonable rains.

Polar BearsThe Bush Administration's proposal to list the polar bear as "threatened" under the Endangered Species Act is a crucial first step toward ensuring a future for these magnificent Arctic creatures. But the Administration's proposal does not designate "critical habitat" for protection, even though melting habitat from global warming is the main threat to the polar bear's survival.

"The polar bear is the unfortunate poster child of global warming. But with your help we can save the polar bear -- and help all life on earth survive -- by protecting our planet from the most destructive impacts of global warming." - Leonardo DiCaprio

Signatures: 22,475
Goal: 20,000
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/777147998


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:25 am

Tell Your Governor to Invest in Transportation!

Target: Your State Governor
Sponsor: Environmental Defense

Traffic congestion is not only a huge pain for commuters; it is also a major contributor to global warming pollution. These two pains can be alleviated by using new tools like congestion pricing and investing in more efficient transportation infrastructure.

American's transportation sector is responsible for more than 1/4 of America's total global warming emissions. Investment in smarter, more efficient transportation is one of the keys to slowing the effects of global warming and making our cities cleaner and safer. We need programs that will:

* Enhance public health, safety and quality of life;
* Provide better and more equitable mobility and access;
* Minimize global warming pollution emissions;
* Enhance economic competitiveness and efficiency

Some states and localities are already taking steps to improve transportation efficiency, but everywhere we can do better.

Tell your governor that you want to see more investment in transportation infrastructure that will help us fight pollution and stop global warming!

Signatures: 8,212
Goal: 15,000
Deadline: Ongoing...


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/266494654



 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:28 am

Support Effective and Real Global Warming Action

Target: Your Member of Congress
Sponsor: Care2

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:29 am

Support Effective and Real Global Warming Action

Target: Your Member of Congress
Sponsor: Care2

In the past two years there has been a lot of tough talk on global warming. But our elected leaders have yet to put forth any real or effective solutions.

With the new Congress, we have a new opportunity to pass meaningful legislation. Environmental leaders and many of this countries largest companies support passing mandatory limits on carbon emissions and with a robust trading system. And polls have shown a strong majority of Americans - including a majority of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents - favor such a plan.


We need to make 2007 the year for effective global warming action!

Tell your Member of Congress to enacting a hard cap on global warming pollution and a concrete timetable for reduction.

Signatures: 8,898
Goal: 25,000
Deadline: 1-23-2008

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/465654169


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:35 am

Give Up Something That Contributes to Global Warming For Lent!

The season of Lent is not only a Christian time of personal sacrifice, but it is now observed by many Americans as a time to "give up" something to make the world a better place. Lent is the perfect time for you to make a change in your life to fight global warming.


You can take action in simple ways, like replacing incandescent light bulbs in your home with compact florescent light (CFL) bulbs. CFL bulbs use only a fraction of the energy used by incandescent bulbs and significantly reduce carbon emissions. You can also choose to buy produce that is locally grown, purchase energy efficient devices or commit to driving your car one day less each week.

Global warming is already putting stress on the planet through rising waters, increased storm events and severe drought.

Join the millions of Americans observing Lent this year by helping curb global warming and protecting the planet for future generations.

Signatures: 3,363
Goal: 10,000
Deadline: 2-20-2008

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/547689471


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:38 am

Global Warming- Do Our Politics Have Cold Feet?

Target: George Bush, President of the United States
Sponsor: Sassy Sistah

What this world will become, our children will pay the price, of what we did, and what we didn't do. Our children will perish in the cold Artic Waters, Polar Bears will become extinct, along with every other animal on this planet, and yet, no one has done anything. You cannot hide the truth, you cannot say that this is impossible and will not happen, be cause it will if we don't take action now!

It seems like all the 'President' (if he can be called that) wants to do revolves around war. This world has become our deaths, when this world is meant to be about life.

Signatures: 356
Goal: 1,000
Deadline: 1-18-2008

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/446508123


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:50 am

What we can do to stop Global Warming

What we can and have to do to stop global warming. Function of this group is discussing peacefully and finding ways for change and to get world leaders to address this problem now. We encourage all members to stay focused on the issue of Global Warming

Members: 1,605

http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/StoppingGlobalWarming

View Denialist Myth Buster Sites!
 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:55 am

No Shady Bookkeeping With Global Warming Law!

Target: California Air Resources Board
Sponsor: Pacific Environment

California's new law may ignore millions of tons of emissions unless we act now.

While this law is an effective way to reduce California's dependence on coal, there is a loophole. The new law only counts the emissions from a power plant itself, not the "lifecycle" of the fuel, as it should.

This means the law does not account for the emissions produced from shipping Liquefied Natural Gas, a new type of fuel for California, from Indonesia, Australia and Qatar. According to scientists at Carnegie Mellon University, this "lifecycle" can be comparable to burning coal, the very thing the new law was meant to avoid.

However, as the details of the new greenhouse gas laws are still being worked out, you can still tell these regulators that you want a law that will truly reduce emissions, not just paper them over.

Send a letter to the members of the California Air Resources Board and the Commissioners of the California Public Utilities Commission and tell them you want real action on global warming, not shady bookkeeping!

Signatures: 1,993
Goal: 1,500
Deadline: Ongoing...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/353926095


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 8:58 am

Youth Call To End Coal by 2020

Target: All World Leaders
Sponsored By: Carlos Rymer

This petition is meant as a follow-up to Bali, the international climate change conference that took place in early December. The petition is a message from the world's youth to world leaders to take the bold step of addressing global warming, now well-recognized as the greatest challenge of our generation, by mandating an end to coal use by 2020. This is the first part of our move towards a climate neutral world and a prosperous future, and we as youth want our leaders to make that decision in 2008.

signature goal: 1,000

signatures! 288

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/youth-call-to-end-coal-by-2020

NO COAL
 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 9:04 am

Do you want more toxic chemicals in your air?

Target: Oregon Department of Environmental Quality

Sponsored By: NE Neighbors for Clean Air

* Boeing has petitioned Oregon DEQ to nearly triple the amount of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) they emit in NE Portland to 99 tons per year.

* VOCs have been linked to global warming, cancer, and respiratory ailments such as asthma.
* Oregon DEQ is reviewing Boeing's petition as you read this.
* DEQ can require Boeing to capture nearly all these toxic emissions. They will only do so if the community pushes for this.
* A broad coalition of neighbors, neighborhoods, businesses, schools, environmental groups and political leaders has formed to express our concerns and oppose this increase while there is still time.
* If you or your neighbors are concerned about the quality of the air in your neighborhood, help us make your concerns known!

The NE Neighbors for Clean Air expects DEQ to hold Boeing to vigorous and maximum environmental standards for the reasons of human health, environmental quality, and environmental justice.

Here's how you can help:

* Learn more at the Cully Neighborhood website, www.cullyneighbors.org, in the "News" section.
* Sign the petition below. Ask your neighbors to sign as well. Return it to the address shown.
* Contact your political representatives and the media (letters to the editor) and tell them of your concern about this issue.
* Volunteer to help spread the word to other neighbors and businesses.
* Express your concern directly to DEQ at: amidon.kathy@deq.state.or.us
Please cc: cleanair@necoalition.org

Petition to Require Capture of VOCs from Boeing's PDX Airplane Painting Facility

Boeing has applied for a permit to emit 99 tons of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) per year from its airplane painting facility near NE 47th and Columbia Blvd (4635 NE Cornfoot Road). We believe Oregon DEQ should require Boeing to apply the most effective control technology to capture the maximum amount of emissions (current technologies employed elsewhere in the U.S. are effective in removing over 90% of VOC emissions). At a time when Boeing is making record profits ($2.2 billion net income in 2006), we believe Boeing should support the most effective technology to prevent the potential significant health effects on our community.

signature goal: 1,000

signatures! 322

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/pdxcleanair


 

Mimi J. (121)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 9:21 am
Thank you Mari!
 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 9:28 am

RACE TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING

Carbon and other greenhouse gases released into the air by power plants and cars contribute to global warming. The Race to Stop Global Warming helps you take a small step every day to help offset your impact.
The Race is a quick, easy way to help stop global warming with a simple point and click. Each click generates a donation to offset one pound of carbon dioxide - a main greenhouse gas - paid by Care2 and other sponsors. Carbon and other greenhouse gases released into the air by power plants and cars contribute to global warming. The Race to Stop Global Warming helps you take a small step every day to help offset your impact. Care2 offers this free service as part of our mission to make it easy get involved and make a difference.

Click the "Offset 1 Pound of Carbon" button every day to remove a pound of CO2 from the atmosphere. Care2 will then make a donation to pay for the removal.

Use the Care2 Toolbar to automatically make your computer carbon neutral.

http://stopglobalwarming.care2.com

STOP GLOBAL WARMING HELP CARE2


 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 9:36 am

Tree Planting a Practical, Effective Way to Remove CO2

Planting trees is a practical, low-cost, and effective way to begin removing CO2 from the atmosphere right now. CO2—a greenhouse gas, blankets the earth and causes temperatures to rise.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/537645068/401104

American Forests

Healthy forests filter water, remove air pollution, sequester carbon, and provide homes for wildlife. Help plant trees to restore areas damaged by wildfire, where critical wildlife habitat has been lost, and to clean our air and water.

http://www.americanforests.org

Every Dollar Plants A Tree to help COMBAT Global Warming. Please plant a Tree!



 

Daniel Barker (35)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 12:31 pm
Mari, you have three children. The leading cause of destruction of the planet is loss of habitat due to population.

I have no children, and plan on having one child and adopt.
 

Enric Mestres Girbal (3)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 2:42 pm
Mari Enchanted sorceress, I'm one of the many sceptics about global worming the way a lot of people describe. No doubt some changes are taking place, but we must realise that the population grows at a large pace. Floods? before people lived on the mountains, high level...now the majority lives too near the coast or the river beds. Energy? years ago we needed X...now we neeed X10....
Years ago the blame was on the ozon hole....now on the melting ice....tomorrow, who knows! At the moment you can find as many scientits pro as there are against...with a difference, the last ones are not sponsored.
 

Glenda S. (13)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 2:56 pm
Thank you Mari Great links and articles
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 6:06 pm
Thank you for this, Mari! The deniers have their minds made up and there's little to be gained by debating them, unfortunately.
The population is not growing among the consumer nations, each of whose children leave a much more destructive carbon footprint than (10 times? 40 times? I forget the exact number) than one poor child in a third world nation, and its the third world nations who have the high birthrate. China, of course, is headed to be a major consumer nation, and that will really speed up detruction of Earth's ecology.
 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:15 pm

RE: Daniel Barker 12:31 pm

Yes I DO have three children & since you wish to cast Judgement & throw stones at me I'll have you know I have CREATED FORESTS on this planet & I DO clean up the mess I make & so do they. My children ARE warriors for Mother Earth & WE will create more than most do or care to do.

My oldest is 19 & since I am being put on trial here... My Oldest along with ALL my kids Clicks to donate unlike YOU that I see on your profile Daniel. I may have THREE kids but they work & work hard for the planet in every way they can. You can't eve lift a finger to click for a donation??????

We don't use UCLEAN energy either or eat a lot of meat. Everthing we do here matter in our blink of time.

We do so much in our every day life for the planet that I could not begin to list all we do!

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:16 pm

RE: URL http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport

U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007



Not surprisingly, this senate report is actually a MINORITY senate report. This report is solely a product of the minority party in the senate - the Republicans. What a shocker! Who would ever have guessed that Republican congressmen would come up with a report against global warming?

This is nothing new. This is still the same old Republican Denialism that is being funded by the oil companies. The Republican party has long been dedicated to using any means necessary to help the rich keep getting richer. They couldn't care less if the planet goes to hell, just as long as they can keep their fat donors raking in the money.

We already knew that there were a number of scientists that had voiced reserverations about global warming. Some of those scientists may even have NOT gotten tons of money from the oil companies, (but the majority probably have gotten tons of money from them).

At any rate, 400 is a pretty small number compared to the number of scientists that agree global warming is caused by human activity. When one actually goes through the list and picks out the scientists that actually really are active climatologists, the number will undoubtedly become much, much smaller.

DENIALISTS ARE HERE AT CARE2 & IN OUR WORLD

 

Mari 's (1365)
Sunday December 23, 2007, 7:48 pm

Global Warming at Odds With Science

READ COMMENTS BY DALE H AT THIS LINK PLEASE

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=714&pst=1005820

A load of nonsense from newsmax.com

 

Indio Blanco (22)
Monday December 24, 2007, 1:23 pm
re: U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007
Turns out the "400 prominent scientists" just ain't so. Check out 400 Prominent Scientists Dispute Global Warming - Bunk
Just more pure BS from Marc Morano, of Swift Boat infamy.

Thanks, Mari, for posting this. You are a True Warrior for Mother Earth!
 

Mari 's (1365)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 8:39 am

DENIALISM THREAD

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=116&pst=788533

Please copy & paste to view this thread. Post evidence as well.
Real evidence by legitimate Scientists only please.





 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 7:32 pm
noted and thank you Mari.
As far as you Daniel Barker .I kinda wish your mom practiced birth control and saved us all these repeticious posts from you in every group !
FYI you might check the census records because with so many elderly in this world the population will be on a down swing as it always has ,,children are born and elderly die its the way life was designed or maybe Daniel you want to become the new creator sense you seem to think you have a better plan for this planet's population.
 

Glenda S. (13)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 7:57 pm
Yes, Daniel as I have said before you need to think very carefully before attacking people who are parents. Most of us who are in these groups also educate our children to be earth conscious citizens and care for our habitats.
Where I live the population is tiny and there are not enough of us to maintain our country. An aging population is not going to help the world either.
 

. (0)
Wednesday December 26, 2007, 6:39 am
There is one thing I agree with Daniel: There are too many people in this world! If I could go back, I would not have any children. The," too many people" reason, is the cause of all the environmental problems, no matter from which side you are. My two sons will never have any kids, I have talked them out of it. No need, our race won't die out.
 
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