Tuesday August 7, 2007, 4:02 pm
this is a milestone for animals . lets work on procotr and gamble
thanks for this heartening post

Tuesday August 7, 2007, 9:04 pm
Well, that's good news.
Thanks for the info. Connie.

Tuesday August 7, 2007, 9:05 pm

Well, Jesus Christ, they should NEVER have been testing on animals in the first damn place!!!!!! What the hell did they need to be doing that for anyway?? What were they going to find out? That empty calories make you fat?? Grrrrrrrrrrrr......yes, this is good news, BUT it is something that should NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST GDAMN PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tuesday August 7, 2007, 11:29 pm
Sophia P & G will be the death and torture of thousands more if we don't push and push hard.. Thank the Goddess' that Coke has taken a step toward honesty and repect for all creatures! REBECCA get stirred up about bleach being poured down the throats of stolen pets or makeup being smeared in their eyes and nose and maybe consider the thought of VIVESECTION being done to them. Get pissed and get serious we have to educate the public that this does happen every single day .It will not end if we allow our families and friends to continue the consumer purchases of any and all Pocter and Gamble product
It stirs my blood to think we have the power to stop this today but everyone turns thier heads and pretends it isn't real! Again I am so elated that Coke has woke up BUT it is so sad that it even happened to be happy about!

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 5:33 am
I have consistently contacted P & G about their animal testing. I too am happy by Coca Cola's decision but like others here, I believe it never should have been taking place at all. Many people I know tell me how they want to make a difference UNTIL I mention companies and products that they use and don't want to give up. Seems to me that to change the products used and support animal friendly companies is a small price to pay to stop the torture and cruelty again our special innocents.

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 5:35 am
at least this will help some animals.

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 5:38 am
YESSsssssss great news....thank and noted..

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 10:24 am
Thanx Connie!!! This is a VERY good Post, like Sophia said, its a milestone but it is a step in the right direction maybe others will follow?

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 2:03 pm
It is about time..... I have a hard time believing them though... they have just told too many lies... I'll believe it when they have shown for several years that they can adhere to such noble sentiments... until then it sounds like they are just saying what they think people want to hear... at least they are finally doing that... It is about time...

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 2:24 pm
Yes......It's about time!!Noted!!!

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 4:08 pm
Great!! Its a start. Noted. Thanks Connie.

Wednesday August 8, 2007, 5:13 pm
Now maybe they will stop poisoning humans too

Thursday August 9, 2007, 1:34 am
Well they don't need to anymore after 100 years of sales
Ask them is the same is true of all their new flavors
including the companies they buy flavors from
and
the companies those companies buy ingredients from

Thursday August 9, 2007, 9:55 am
Nope!!!! I don't trust "Coca-cola" to tell the truth, and by the way what about all their other flavours. Thanks, but "No thanks" to Coca-cola, this is one customer they are not going to get!!!!

Thursday August 9, 2007, 10:20 am
why did they test on animals??? Was it to see that their crappy drinks really do contribute to diabetes . heck their was enough testing on people who drink the stuff themselves. Why follow the people around who drink this crap day after day, instead of test on animals.

It's good that they stopped.

Thursday August 9, 2007, 10:37 am
THEY TEST ON HUMANS EVERY SECOND AND YOU ARE HAPPY THEY STOPPED USING ANIMALS!?

WAKE UP!

BAN COKE!

Thursday August 9, 2007, 10:38 am
BAN ALL COLAS!
BAN ALL SOFT DRINKS!
BAN ALL ALCOHOLPOPS!

Thursday August 9, 2007, 1:42 pm

I want to know just what kind of ingredients they are using that would require animal testing or any other kind of testing for safety?? If the ingredients are not natural, DON'T FRICKIN' USE THEM!!!!!!!!!

Thursday August 9, 2007, 2:21 pm

Oh, and Glenda, I am soooooooo worked up about vivisection of any type and fight it every chance I get! I don't believe that vivisection serves any useful purpose at all and I believe that it is nothing but cruelty presented as science for making money. No other reason exists for its continuance.

Thursday August 9, 2007, 3:30 pm
Some of us are sounding like a bunch of spoiled Brats! the more we get the more we want ! YEAH that is right Pedro we all need to Boycott the companies that send products out into the public that have ANIMAL TEST LABS>...... You speak of TESTS ON HUMANS well let me just throw this in " People , humans, make the decision to do as they will OK? Animals are stolen daily, stabbed with knives, poked prodded , force fed, tethered , the list goes on and miserably on of unspeakable things done to them.Do YOU THINK FOR A SECOND THEY MADE THAT DECISION? This is about ANIMAL TESTING NOT HUMAN TESTING. The day an ANIMAL decides to be poisoned by choice that is the day I will back off (maybe) "

Thursday August 9, 2007, 3:42 pm
noted

Thursday August 9, 2007, 9:28 pm
Most synthetic flavours would at some time have been tested on animals.
Maybe with the exception of vanilla the first synthetic flavour ((1890s?) as it came in before health and FDA laws.
Most synthetic flavours are "nature identical" as this cuts down the poisoning risk and makes registration easier.

i am not sure of the situation in Japan who seem to come up with some weird man-made flavours.

Friday August 10, 2007, 8:11 am
Hi Glenda,
I should point out your rude sentence:
"People , humans, make the decision to do as they will OK?"

People do not choose to drink soft drinks!
MARKETING BRAINWASH AND DRINKS' INGREDIENTS INDUCE PEOPLE TO CONSUME THAT CRAP!
PEOPLE THAT AREN'T INFLUENCED BY THOSE 2 ELEMENTS WILL NEVER DRINK THAT RUBBISH!

Glenda, was that clear enough?

Friday August 10, 2007, 8:36 pm
AWESOME!!! I HOPE THEY MEAN IT...

Friday August 10, 2007, 9:04 pm
Well Pedro no as a matter of fact it isn't clear. You don't have to point out or copy anything I say. This s not about HUMANS this is about ANIMALS Animals don't get the news or advertising hipe. They get their lives taken from them to be tortured . People do have a choice. Please if it is 1 sip or 9 million people have a choice.I don't want to debate about this all I want is to throw out there that Animal Test Facilities do exist and they are not voluIteers that participate

Friday August 10, 2007, 9:24 pm
I think that if Coca-Cola does not adhere to their promise, PETA will be on them in a hot second. And Coca-Cola is not the first: PepsiCo, Welch's, Ocean Spray, and POM Wonderful have banned all testing on animals as well. (POM Wonderful, by the way, was being campaigned against by PETA in January of 2007, as did we!).

Also, I think we shouldn't be so quick to judge. Corporations are finally waking up to the fact that animal testing is archaic, unnecessary, and is only a deterrent to the consumer. That is a GOOD thing!! We will get there....we will!!

Friday August 10, 2007, 9:54 pm
I think most "no-animal testing" is a marketing-con; a lie
The companies just get third parties to do the testing for them

the only way to win is to change the law that makes animal testing compulsory/necessary and also change insurance laws. Testing cosmetic ingredients on animals is trivial and obscene.
But medical research that may save human lives has justification.

Also new technology holds out the hope that there may be other ways of testing rather than using animals.
This is going to be difficult however in some areas of medical research.

Friday August 10, 2007, 10:37 pm
I hope that this is true...I am so leary of what these companies say now a days...they will tell us what we want to hear so they can get whatever funding or insurance that they need...I need to be shown this to believe it is really true...noted

Saturday August 11, 2007, 7:37 am
Glenda, I pasted your sentence because you were rude by using the OK at the end.

I have no problem with people being against soft drinks' manufacturers animal testing.

What is beyond my comprehension is of those above there are some like you who seem not to care about the human victims of soft drinks!
Are you really convinced that CHILDREN HAVE A CHOICE?!

Then read this scientific article about this issue:

Fast food branding makes children prefer happy meals
Fast food branding really does make food more appetising to children. A study has revealed that pre-school kids prefer foods wrapped in McDonalds packaging over the same snacks wrapped in unmarked packaging.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn12431&feedId=online-news_rss20

Saturday August 11, 2007, 11:59 am

Pedro....if you are so concerned about PEOPLE, then go to news stories relating to PEOPLE. Personally, I could give one flying shit about PEOPLE in general. As Glenda said, PEOPLE have CHOICES...whether it is the kid or the parent, the advertiser, the school, the government. Get after THEM!!! WE are concerned about the INNOCENT ANIMALS who do NOT have CHOICES. Go after the parents, NOT US. Blame the government, the advertisers, the producers, the PARENTS, but don't blame US. I don't really care if some kid gets fat and his teeth rot out. Really. His parents and he make that choice.

The animals are truly innocent and the horrendous things done to them in the name of "science", not to mention the god-awful cruelty of being used for food and the manner in which that all happens is simply unconscionable. I will fight for animals until the day I die, but if 100,000 PEOPLE were killed tomorrow, I really wouldn't care much, if at all.

Frankly, I think the world would be a MUCH BETTER place if EVERY SINGLE LAST HUMAN ON EARTH DIED. Yes, ME, all of you, my family, my friends.....the ENTIRE POPULATION! Maybe then, the animals would be left in peace and the earth could heal. WE are a plague, the worst plague, to have ever been created. And yes, ALL of humanity would have to perish because otherwise some stupid person would breed and start the whole damn thing over again.

So, Pedro, get over yourself....some of us are for the ANIMALS and the damnable, stupid SHEEPLE can be left to their own devices.

Saturday August 11, 2007, 4:28 pm
PEDRO SHUT UP!

Tuesday August 14, 2007, 11:23 am
Pedro.....
"THEY TEST ON HUMANS EVERY SECOND AND YOU ARE HAPPY THEY STOPPED USING ANIMALS!?

WAKE UP!

BAN COKE!""


Pedro...on the internet, all caps is rude, rude, rude.......and even though marketing machine does influence people, I will not deny that, they are the one's actually making the choice. My grandmother does Not watch TV but she still has a soft drink once in awhile, That is her choice along with every body else. To imply that people are so stupid as to not realize they have a choice is more insulting.

Tuesday August 14, 2007, 11:36 am
and frankly Rebecca your out look on life is pretty darn messed up also....to wish ill to humans only reinforces that negative force or energy that makes people so evil. So what,you think animals are great and will fight for them until you die...Your hate for humans will probably negate all of that and will be for nothing.

Tuesday August 14, 2007, 2:08 pm

J S I am only stating the reality of the situation. If we humans didn't exist, the world would heal. There is NO other way, really, for it to happen. I'm not reinforcing sh*t...we humans already are as negative a plague as can be. I just call it like it is. If that is too "non-human-centric" for you, oh well. I have NOTHING to do with making people "negative". In fact, it is the hell hole of a mess HUMANS have created that negate anything good in this world, that destroys it instead of reveling in it.

I just know that unless and until human beings no longer exist, we will continue to destroy this world and all its other creatures until nothing remains but a barren rock devoid of life. Why the hell else do you think humans are so keen on populating other planets? Because they know we are killing this one. I am not one of those "human centric, ain't we wonderful" fools that thinks the human race is the be all and end all. I understand the reality that we destroy all we touch.

NOT that there are not good people....there are. However, we can never begin to offset the callous disregard for other life that is so pervasive. Hence, my statement that all human life needs to end. Because I DON'T think we should destroy all other living beings. We have NO right to do so, but will continue unless we are stopped. Flatly put....we all need to die. Simply being logical and realistic, not that I hate people (at least not some), but I know human nature. If that makes me "negative" in your eyes...so be it. I'm just stating the reality of the situation. If YOU know how to make the entire human population care enough to quit wantonly killing everything we see, YOU tell me about it and I'll happily follow your lead. Until then, I'm entitled to my opinion, which, as I believe, is that truth and reality. No sugar coating, no ego stroking, no BS. Simply the truth. So sue me.

Tuesday August 14, 2007, 10:04 pm

No that is not the "reality" of the situation. I thank God/Goddess, universal force, great spirit or what ever you wanta call it, that I am alive. That my child is alive, that my husband and family are alive. I have every bit of right to be alive so does every other human who loves life. I and my family and friends are NOT any kind of plague. (I certainly don't think my cat and dog who are well fed and sheltered would appreciate you taking their comforts away if I were to die. There are alot of creatures who live very well because of people and would not so if they were all dead.)

Hating and wishing death on people is just as evil and self righteous as people who hate and kill animals and must add it is pretty darn pathetic. And yes I do believe it does contribute to negative energy but you are probably the one who reaps the effects of that.

You don't think we should destroy all living beings. Thats is hypocritical considering you would prefer to see all humans dead, which are living beings. There is far more good in the world than you care to open your eyes to and no there is nothing sugar coated about that. Your truth is only your truth…it most certainly is NOT mine. I do not identify with it…most people I know would not identify with that.
When one spends a lot of there time just Looking/searching to be offended, disgusted, horrified, terrified, scared emotionally then, that one can, most certainly ends up with one warp sense of reality.

No, I don't know how to make human population care more. It is not my job to as every person is born with a free will and every body has lessons to learn in this world and yes evil is apart of that lesson. It's is sad that some people just can not get a grip with that fact. It is my job to make sure “I” care not only about animals but for the people around me who take care of animals. That is my opinion and I am entitled to it as well. Sorry if that is higher road to take. On second thought, I am not sorry that, that is a higher road to take.

Friday August 17, 2007, 7:48 pm

It, in fact, IS the reality of the situation. We will NEVER be able to change ALL the minds of people who don't care about animals or any other life form other than their own. I do believe I did state that there ARE some good people, but we are not enough. If we were, there wouldn't be the need to fight every single day for stuff that should be common sense....if you kill everything you touch, eventually there'll be nothing left to kill.

The HUGE difference, that you prefer not to see, is that humans have CHOICES which animals do not. Yes, we have some well-cared for animals....my dogs and yours as well as many others belonging to the good people. However, you cannot say that the good "outweighs" the bad in this world regarding concern for other beings other than humans. That simply IS NOT true in any way, shape or form. If it were so, there would be no hunting, no fur, no trapping, no "food" animals, no zoos, no circuses, no "research", no puppy mills, no shelters where wayward animals were killed, no destruction of habitat - especially that which is intrinsically relelvant to species survival, no big companies destroying and polluting, no animal abuse, no slaughterhouses, no public aquariums, etc, etc, etc.

How do you propose we change the behavior and thought patterns of ALL THOSE PEOPLE??? It isn't hypocritical to wish for the destruction of the MOST DESTRUCTIVE FORCE ON EARTH....PEOPLE. That is expressing concern for every OTHER living being. You are the same as 99.9% of all other humans.... you think without us that "life" just doesn't exist. Well, I AM taking the high road in that I don't consider myself to be superior to all the billions of other living beings that are non-human. You obviously think the human race is the be all and end all. OMG, without people, life just doesn't exist.

Yes, without us around, our pets...who WE, as a race, domesticated for OUR OWN PURPOSE AND USE... would specifically suffer. Overall, however, animals would adapt to our being gone and the earth would return to a more natural state. Dogs, cats, horses, pigs, cows, chickens and all other domesticated animals would revert to being wild. We see it already with horses, dogs and cats, so why wouldn't other species adapt as well? Our specific domesticated animals would possibly suffer, but the species as a whole would benefit in the long run. It isn't like our domesticated animals, barring some few millions current actually being CARED for, aren't already treated to the most horrendous of abuses. They most certainly ARE!!

Once again, you have the human-centric point of view...and a very narrow one at that. My point is that even just leaving the "good" people would eventually result in the same status quo we see today - massive exploitation of all other species and environments. I DO understand that there are many, many "good" people who care and work and try and suffer for the animals AS WELL AS THE PLIGHT OF OTHER PEOPLE. I, too, care still on some level for people's suffering. BUT, I also realize that if we all died tomorrow, the world would ultimately be a MUCH better place for every other species. I don't think so much of myself OR the human race as a whole to think we are the "ultimate" and that life won't go on without us or that we are indispensible. WE ARE.

And if the destruction of BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of animals EACH YEAR, genocide, war, raping the earth, murder, rape, mutilation, abuse and everything else horrendous that humans REGULARLY perpetrate doesn't convince you that humans are a plague, then please tell me what, exactly IS a plague?? The dictionary defines as plague as "A widespread affliction or calamity". Well, if that isn't the human race, what are we? We sure as hell don't make life better for other species!! If they could talk, I guarantee that they'd be agreeing with ME.

Hell, humans harm other humans with the same indifference that they harm animals...and you propose we can change that? Yeah, so much for not being a plague. You think you "take the high road" because you express concern for other people, yet that is simply the self-serving, human-centric road every other so-called "good" person takes who doesn't want to admit that the HUMAN RACE AS A WHOLE is the worst, most destructive force on earth. A few "good" people just doesn't cut it for the non-humans...nor even for a hell of a lot of other people! Just ask those people in Darfur, Iraq, Israel, Palestine and the many other places where people are exterminating people.

We can't get this dumbass race to quit killing each other, but we think we'll save all the animals while we still exist? Nope, ain't happening. We might make SOME things better for SOME animals, but the bloodbath will continue unabated. And THAT IS FACT, not being hypocritical or pessimistic. FACT. And I don't have such an ego as to think I, or the human race, is so damned important that we NEED to continue. Other species go extinct all the time - particularly due to humans - so why would it matter so much if we did other than it would save so many others? How is that bad? We CHOOSE TO DESTROY. Other species would simply like to exist, but we take that away. Bet they'd sure as hell like us gone.

Yes, you ARE entitled to your opinion, but it sure isn't the "higher" road. The only "lesson" being learned is that the human race will not stop its headlong flight to total destruction of the earth and ALL living beings - including other humans - until this place is a barren rock. I am just hoping the stupid humans - who, again, have CHOICES - manage to kill themselves off entirely before taking the rest of life along with them.

Until then, I will fight for ALL living beings being exploited, used and abused...including people to SOME degree, but my focus will be on the TRUE INNOCENTS....THE ANIMALS.

Saturday August 18, 2007, 12:38 pm
Rebecca, First off your point off view of killing every body off is not in any way shape or form superior or taking any kind of high road. It is a road of insanity. It REMINDS me of Hitler’s view of thinking. He thought his way was superior or right too.

You know what, I totally stand by my answer above because point for point I would be saying the exact same thing. I already answered most of what you just reiterated.

But I must add, There are a lot more good people out there than you may think. You just keep seeking out the bad more often than the good.

The thing is, EVIL IS JUST A FACT OF LIFE!! THAT IS TRUE REALITY of things. Just because YOU can not deal with that, does not mean the rest of human race needs to die. You are the one who can not get a grip with it!

Even animals can be pretty nasty to each other. Ever watch lion rip apart a zebra. Or a pack of “wild domesticated dogs” kill cats, goats, or calves just for the fun of it??? And not eat it…they just ripped them apart…ever watch a cat, bat a mouse around but not eat it??? Just tortured it?? Well I have…animals can be pretty nasty to.
Humans may have a big choice over the lives of animals but animals have a type of consciousness of their own. And it is not all just instinct either because instinct says kill and eat, not kill for fun which I have seen dogs and cats do. Ever watch a video of dolphins torture porpoises in areas of plentiful food, because they are smaller and can flip them in the air??? Ever hear about how certain types of apes actually seek out other groups of apes and beat them to death even though they were not anywhere near each other??? They were not competing for food or resources it was merely revenge over a more older apes.

I also already stated above I will restate it again No, I don't know how to make human population care more. It is not my job to, as every person is born with a free will and every body has lessons to learn in this world and yes evil is apart of that lesson. You have no real place to judge it .

I do however think that mass media is key if “good” people could only gain enough position in the world to be able to speak more about these horrible things that happen to animals. Humans are so sheltered by the greedy one’s in control.
I have often wondered what would happen if the “good” people that do exist were to actually find ways of attaining power enough to be able to spread the message about animal cruelty more main stream. I think a lot of people would change BUT YOU condemn possibilities before even considering them by wishing death to us all. With mass communications and TV, radio, internet etc etc…..people believe the TV, and radio, magazines….it just needs to be put out there more. But people in power now, who like keeping every one in dark for sakes of greed need to be taken out and more good people in. Those things take time. It only took a few generation to brian wash every one into thinking that “shopping” was the happy life. I think things “could” be reversed if given a chance…it all takes time.


I am sorry that you can not get a GRIP with the FACT that life is hard and evil is APART OF IT. I believe there is lessons to be learned from it all. Some people see animals being tortured and become more compassionate. More people need to be able to see it. I believe a lot of this is hidden. %90 of my friends never knew animals were killed in such horrible ways….How could they ever care when they see their “steak” wrapped in shrink wrap, it looks nothing like an animal!! You just eat it. Most people have never seen animals being killed day after day! Not like on care2 where we see videos day after day of the worst of worst.

Nope I’m not a plague, I don’t spread myself all over like a disease that causes fever or infestation of insects. I am a human, and I am Spirit that comes from God and I believe there is a purpose for everything. Animals are flesh and also Spirit that comes from God…I do not consider myself more important. Animals live in their own kind of animal societies with their own languages and family structures. They are just DIFFERENT from humans NOT LOWER than humans. I believe humans will one day get this fact. Actually a lot of people have awakened to the fact animals can suffer. You know how people use to believe animals did not feel pain or loss, well now we know that they do. That is a big step in the right direction . Change takes time. THAT IS a higher road to take, over killing every body off!!

Saturday August 18, 2007, 12:44 pm
So what, if it is “human centric” I am a human and I am not hanging my head in shame just because YOU can not come to terms with the fact evil is apart of life!! I am not hanging my head in shame just because there are bad humans out there.

We would not appreciate the good with out the bad. That is a fact of the situation. Everything would be the same if everything was all good all the time.

Ok, a sudden calamity happens, most or all humans die off. So do a LARGE portion of animals. All the ones left in pins, left in houses, in cages every where, zoos etc etc.. will all die too. Because no one is there to take care of them. It would take the earth a long time to rebalance itself and animals populations, so you would still be condemning many many animals to death before everything righted itself.

And another thing, you can not assume to know what I think. I don’t know if animals can live with or with out people definitely! NEITHER DO YOU!! You don’t have all the answers here. You don’t know %100 what life would be like with out humans. Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions…..

All life is here for a reason and purpose. Animals are here for a reason and purpose who knows, they might not be able to fulfill their destinies with out humans…You just do not know… do you?? You are only assuming life would be %100 better with out us but you just do not know. So I am not the one committing mental mass death by wishing horrible horrible things on humanity so that we can all just die.

We domesticated animals, but maybe they wanted to be domesticated. Maybe they needed to be domesticated, maybe they liked being around humans. Maybe you are not giving the animals enough credit!!! Maybe you think they are all a lot more stupid than you give them credit for. You just DO NOT KNOW!!

Domestication was also a way for animals to SURVIVE because they got more food from being around human. So the fatter ones lived on, it just so happened that it changed their wild nature somewhat. It still benefited them to be around humans who herded them and protected them from predators and they got more food and pasture and water because humans lead them to it. They survived. So they followed humans. The animals who did not need humans still today can not be domesticated, like bears, and tigers etc etc.

I think we are all on even playing ground here. Animals are not lower just different. Humans can push them around but then again humans push humans around, there is no difference. I think, believe is, you do not know or see the whole picture. I do not see or know the whole picture either but I can imagine it a little better than you can.
I love life and there are good people out there who make existence with animals like magic. Ever see a Pat Parelli demonstration??
He works magic with horses using Love, Language, and Leadership. People like him deserve every bit of life and respect. Horses love being around him and he teaches others from old people right down to children how to be the same way.
Even the Queen has shown interest in using his language techniques for her royal horses. Now that is a big step forward.
You just need to look in the right places. YOU do not know for sure if the bad out weighs the good. You only know what you go SEEKING to find which is death!!! Human societies have come and gone for a long time and the earth has been able to recover. I think you don’t give animals and the earth and humans enough credit. You can have your “opinion” and I will keep mine. I know in my heart what I have experienced from God and only pray you find peace some day.