Tuesday September 9, 2008, 8:36 am
I'd rather see the gang tried for war crimes but I'd settle for impeachment.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 8:54 am
Thank you Jill! Signed petition! Noted!

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:03 am
Thank you, Felicita ! And Arielle, but I am composing a longer message in reply to Arielle & I'm a bit slow here !

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:05 am
No President or Vice-President in history have been more worthy of Impeachment. I agree with David Swanson that it was a bad thing to let Reagan to get away with Contragate. He should have been impeached either for incompetance or complicity. It set a precedent we are now paying for. Nixon's crimes pale by comparison.
Thanks again Jill, Signed & noted.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:11 am
Impeachment would be a fine first step toward war crimes hearings.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:14 am

I'm with you, Arielle !

Did you see the different and very rousing speakers calling for impeachment during the July 25 House Judiciary Committee Hearings "Executive Power and Its Constitutional Limitations" ?

If you have a preference for war crimes, there's something on After Downing Street that will be right up your alley :

WAR CRIMES CONFERENCE FROM ANDOVER ON STREAMING VIDEO SEPT. 13-14
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/warcrimesconference

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:35 am

I was without a computer for a bit over a month this summer, and I missed these hearings which I finally viewed only a few days ago, so I am all geared up about this despite the time delay !

One of the speakers at the House Judiciary hearings, whom I 'discovered' thanks to Pamylle, is Vincent Bugliosi, former L.A. assistant district attorney, whose book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" came out last spring.

He, too, thinks impeachment doesn't go far enough. This is from Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vincent-bugliosi/the-prosecution-of-george_b_102427.html) & these are his words :

Perhaps the most amazing thing to me about the belief of many that George Bush lied to the American public in starting his war with Iraq is that the liberal columnists who have accused him of doing this merely make this point, and then go on to the next paragraph in their columns. Only very infrequently does a columnist add that because of it Bush should be impeached.

If the charges are true, of course Bush should have been impeached, convicted, and removed from office. That's almost too self-evident to state. But he deserves much more than impeachment. I mean, in America, we apparently impeach presidents for having consensual sex outside of marriage and trying to cover it up. If we impeach presidents for that, then if the president takes the country to war on a lie where thousands of American soldiers die horrible, violent deaths and over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, including women and children, even babies are killed, the punishment obviously has to be much, much more severe. That's just common sense.

If Bush were impeached, convicted in the Senate, and removed from office, he'd still be a free man, still be able to wake up in the morning with his cup of coffee and freshly squeezed orange juice and read the morning paper, still travel widely and lead a life of privilege, still belong to his country club and get standing ovations whenever he chose to speak to the Republican faithful. This, for being responsible for over 100,000 horrible deaths?* For anyone interested in true justice, impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:38 am
Signed. Gladly. I'd prefer a public hanging to include Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Abrams, Libby, Bolton, Perle, Feith, Wurmser. Thank you, Jill.

http://zfacts.com/p/775.html

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:41 am

Gee, Marion, even though I normally protest against that sort of thing, in these circumstances, really, a public hanging doesn't sound so bad !

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:44 am

What about a picnic-barbecue to celebrate, if we manage to schedule it in while the weather's still nice ?

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 10:25 am
Jill...I don't like that sort of thing either. But in this case, it is justified. Besides, a public hanging sends a strong, clear message to others who might try it.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 10:34 am

Exactly...that's what Kennedy said about impeachment - a civics lesson, a showcase that clearly shows you can't get away with it !

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 6:01 pm
Impeach NOW - Impale Later!;)

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 8:24 pm

In September of 2006, Congress passed a bill effectively granting retroactive immunity to Bush, and anyone following his orders, for "possible" war crimes. This has not yet been challenged.

Additionally, convincing Congress to impeach will be hindered by the fact that the war on Iraq was actually to save the U.S. dollar (or the "American way of life").

I signed and would love to see impeachment happen, but my hopes for justice lay in the possibility of the "International Court of Justice" in Hague charging with war crimes. They've not granted immunity.

Thank you Jill.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:03 pm
signed awhile ago..i'm on his mailing list.
Dennis is the MAN.

Tuesday September 9, 2008, 9:42 pm
Will Big Brother make someone in my family disappear now that I've signed this petition?

OBAMA 08

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 12:16 am

Kucinich Press Conference on Delivering Petitions to Pelosi Demanding Impeachment

Wednesday, September 10, 2008, at 1:00 p.m. in room 2456 of the Rayburn House Office Building.

Be There!


Kucinich Ramps Up Impeachment Efforts Against Bush

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 12:24 am
I'll settle for Impeachment, but War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity have such nice rings to them!

PS...We may all wind up on the Terrorist Watch List at the airport for this. They already have over a million people on it.

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 2:19 am
Signed this one a long time ago and I'm sure they probably have more than a million signatures.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/lawindex.htm

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 7:02 am
Noted and signed, thanks Jill. The good news is there is not statute of limitations on impeachment, so Bush/Cheney can even be impeached after they leave office. If they are impeached when they leave office they will not ever be able to hold public office again, and they lose their government pensions, which means the tax payers don't have to pay for their retirement pensions. And that's a good thing.

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 10:38 am
Stephen...indeed, that IS a good thing. Thank you!

Wednesday September 10, 2008, 11:34 am

Wow - I didn't know that, Stephen ! Thanks for the info, it opens up whole horizons of hope ! Never too late, then !

I like Yvonne's program: impeach now, impale later !