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Wolf Attack 2:32 Wolves Confront Three Women and Their Dogs in Elmendorf, Alaska. KTVA Reports.


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: wolves, alaska, wolves kill dogs, overpopulation )

Frank
- 1256 days ago - cnn.com
Compelling CNN Video of women whose dog attacked by wolves, and women stalked. Overpopulation of wolves is terrifying residents and killing dogs.



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Clever Pseudonym (176)
Monday September 1, 2008, 6:56 pm
Maybe the wolves heard about McShame's first choice for VP.
We live in Alaska by choice. If we don't want to be around dangerous animals we can move to where there are more of the dangerous humans.
 

Rachel Markel (27)
Monday September 1, 2008, 7:36 pm
Ouch Franky, that's not a very Christian like comment. What would God think? Better yet who would God vote for?
 

Frank H. (478)
Monday September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm
If you actually watched the video and are still so callous and flippant, nothing can possibly said. Those good women were fearful for their lives and their beloved family pet was mauled. You are beyond all hope.
 

Roseann D. (144)
Monday September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm
Frank, Jesus would call anyone hopeless as you just have. You're entitled to your opinion, but if you can't support your opinion intelligently, don't go all cruel, hostile and offensive on people.
 

Chris Otahal (519)
Monday September 1, 2008, 10:30 pm
Soooo, this is a report from DECEMBER - just exactly how often does this happen???

Putting Risk Into Perspective

- Forest Service email reported 1992 figures on the wildlife hazards afield. Topping the list of animal-caused human deaths were deer, racking up 131 for the year. Except in movies, sharks took only one human, bees 43, and rattlesnakes ten.

- You are more likely to be killed by a coconut falling on your head than by a shark (therefore we absolutely oppose the introduction of coconut trees to Montana!)

- From 1989-94 there were 109 fatal dog attacks in the U.S.

- Children crushed to death by televisions since 1990: 2

- An average of 100 people per year choke to death on ballpoint pens.

In the next year:

- You have a 1 in 2 million chance of dying from falling out of bed.

- You have a 1 in 2 million chance of being killed by an animal.

Lifetime risks:

1 in 3 chance that you'll die of heart disease.

1 in 5 chance that you'll die of cancer.

1 in 45 chance that you'll die in an auto accident.

1 in 72 chance that you'll deliberately kill yourself.

1 in 700,000 chance that you'll be killed by a dog.

So if society deems wolves expendable due to the threat they pose to human safety, it only stands to reason that ballpoint pens, televisions, cars, and dogs should be eliminated also.

Details:

http://www.wildsentry.org/WolfAttack.html



Wolves & People

http://www.wolftrust.org.uk/faqpeople.html

conclusion: You are more likely to be killed by a lightening strike than killed by a wolf!!!!!!

Please do a little research Frank before spreading this fearmongering and trying to justify the arial hunting of wolves....


 

Chris Otahal (519)
Monday September 1, 2008, 10:51 pm
(Case Study) Wolf Habituation as a Conservation Conundrum

By Diane K. Boyd, Corvallis, Montana

Historically, intense fear of gray wolves (Canis lupus) as predators of livestock and perhaps people led to bounty hunts in the Western U.S. during the late 1800s and early 1900s that successfully eradicated wolves from most of their historic range in North America. However, public sentiment regarding wolves began to change in the mid-1900s. In the U.S., wolves were federally protected from human persecution by passage of the Endangered Species Act in 1973. Through a combination of increasing public support, natural dispersal, and managed reintroductions, these controversial predators have increased in number, returning to some of their historic range.

Wolf recovery has been lauded as one of the most successful restoration efforts of the last century. Wolves are staging a strong comeback in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Additionally, wolf populations are expanding in Canada and many European countries including France, Switzerland, Italy, Norway, and Sweden. However, we did not anticipate a surprising twist to this story: Wolves have proven to be more adaptable than previously perceived, and now often live in close proximity to humans. The continued expansion of human populations into non-urban landscapes has resulted in an increase of wolf–human conflicts. Wildlife species habituate to human activities and humans themselves, resulting in more frequent encounters at the interface. As a result, resources put into wolf reintroduction are now often used for wolf management and control activities.

On April 26, 2000 a healthy, wild wolf attacked a 6-year-old boy in Icy Bay, Alaska. The wolf was killed and the boy received stitches and recovered fully. The Alaskan incident was so unusual that it was reported in newspapers across the U.S. Every year a few humans are injured, sometimes fatally, by wild coyotes, black bears, grizzly bears, mountain lions, deer, elk, and moose. Although wolves often kill formidable prey as large as moose, wolf attacks on humans are very rare. However, the frequency of such encounters in North America has increased in the past three decades. Wolf conservationists are concerned because an increase in human–wolf interaction may result in harm to humans, exaggerated fear of wolves, and, ultimately, increased wolf mortality. Here, I examine the causes of these increasing incidents and discuss the effects of this conflict on wolf conservation efforts.

The wolf evolved as a top carnivore, and enhanced their survival by opportunistically exploiting resources, including those found in novel situations and expropriating other predator’s kills. In recorded historic times, North American wolves were unafraid of humans and commonly investigated human activities and camps to the point of becoming nuisances (Hampton 1997). Many frontiersmen, including Lewis and Clark, recorded the high visibility of wolves and their fearlessness (DeVoto 1981). Although the wolves were described as bold and pesky, they were rarely reported as a threat to humans.

However, as the wolf extirpation campaigns began in the late 1800s, the curious wolves disappeared: the bold wolves were shot, the accessible wolves were poisoned, and the shy wolves survived in remote places. By 1940, intensive wolf persecution had reduced wolf distribution in the contiguous U.S. by approximately 98%, allowing wolves to remain only in areas with an absence of potential wolf–human conflict. As wolf eradication approached its goal, the last surviving wolves were secretive and cunning (Young 1970).

Beginning in the 1970s, strong anti-wolf fears were moderated by increased ecological awareness and counter-balanced by the emergence of pro-wolf adoration. The phrase “there has never been a documented case of a healthy wild wolf attacking a human in North America” became the mantra of individuals trying to create a more positive image of the wolf. These educational programs contributed greatly to changing public attitude and enhancing wolf recovery efforts. Wolf–dog hybrids and pet wolves became popular, as people began to idolize wolves as wild, clever, and human-friendly. Ultimately, the elusive wolf of the extirpation era became the wolf of modern memory that people believe represents “normal” wolf behavior. But are these visions of wolves more a figment of our selective imagination than the reality of what comprises this ecologically complex carnivore? Are we now doing wolves a disservice by creating unrealistic expectations of the wolf as a benign, wilderness-dwelling animal? To answer these questions, we need to understand wolves and the nature of their recovery in more detail.

The wolf recovery success story is noteworthy but not surprising. Historically wolves had the broadest worldwide geographic distribution of any living terrestrial mammalian species, with the exception of humans, and occupied nearly all habitat types. They require only two key habitat components for their existence: (1) an adequate, year-round supply of ungulates, and (2) freedom from excessive persecution by humans. Wolves are cooperative obligatory hunters that require teamwork and a highly developed social dominance hierarchy within packs. Each pack is comprised of individuals with a wide range of behaviors that fulfill different roles within the pack, ranging from shy and submissive to bold and dominant. Wolves have significant plasticity in their behavior, morphology, and genetic composition (Boyd et al. 2001) that enhances their adaptability to a wide diversity of environments. This variability, in combination with high fecundity, has allowed for relatively rapid population recovery.

Wolf sociality and plasticity allowed the wolf to be domesticated at least 14,000 years ago (Morey 1994) and possibly as long as 135,000 years ago (Vila et al. 1997, 1999). Dogs are phenotypically a highly variable product of artificial selection pressure on wolves by humans. The boldness of some wild wolves facilitated taming by humans and eventual partnerships in hunting, companionship, cleaning camps of human waste, and becoming beasts of burden pulling travois and sleds. The wolf is unique among carnivores in that it has become domesticated into a common utility and companion animal for humans worldwide. Thus, is it so surprising that the complications that arise when wolves coexist with humans are unique?

The expanding wolf distribution has caused an increase in wolf–human encounters and generated concerns among wolf managers and conservationists. Only two accounts of wolf–human encounters that resulted in injurious contact between a wolf and humans were published in the scientific literature between 1900 and 1985 (Peterson 1947; Jenness 1985). However, since 1985 several apparently deliberate, injurious wolf attacks on humans were documented in Alaska (Icy Bay incident described earlier), Vargas Island (British Columbia), Algonquin Park (Ontario, five separate attacks), and India. The attacks in India were the most dramatic and severe: In Uttar Pradesh during a 2-year period (1996–1997), a wolf or wolves killed or seriously injured 74 humans, mostly children under the age of 10 years (Mech 1998). This may sound like a tabloid headline, but the attacks were well documented by wolf authorities. Several factors may have led to the attacks including a lack of available wild prey, domestic livestock that were well protected, and many small children playing in the vicinity of the wolves.

The common factor among nearly all reported wolf attacks was that wolves had become increasingly bold around humans (perhaps because of food scarcity, or possibly as a new strategy to exploit resources brought by humans into wilderness areas). North American wolves involved in recent attacks were repeatedly seen stealing articles of clothing, gear, exploring campsites, and sometimes obtaining food items—behaviors nearly identical to those reported by early frontiersmen. The wolves of Algonquin and Vargas Island exhibited bold behavior for weeks or months before the attacks occurred. Therefore, those injuries would probably have been preventable if humans had perceived the wolf as a wild predator rather than a thrilling campsite visitor.

This essay is not intended to rekindle fear of wolves, but rather to address a very real and growing problem that is occurring with wolves (and many other wildlife species): How can humans and wolves coexist in increasingly human-dominated landscapes? The challenge to wolf managers and conservationists at present is to avoid creating public fear of wolves, yet paint a realistic picture of wolf behavior in the hopes of reducing human–wolf conflicts and subsequent wolf mortality.

Although wolves adapt quickly to changing dynamics, the same is not true for the humans that dominate the landscapes wolves are recolonizing. Wolves are finding new food resources in llamas and pygmy goats on ranchettes (2–10 ha land parcels) in the western U.S. Expensive Great Pyrenese and Anatolian shepherd dogs that guard livestock are killed by territorial wolves. Pets have been taken by wolves from porches, and increasingly, wolves pass within sight of people in national parks. The denizen of the wilderness is adapting quite well to human-dominated landscapes. The conundrum is that we have managed wolf recovery so successfully that conflict situations arise more frequently and we must anticipate potential backlash by the public to avoid slipping back into an anti-wolf fervor. New efforts to educate the public about the nature of wild wolves, particularly emphasizing their differences from domestic dogs are working. People are warned to take reasonable precautions, and reassured that these alone should prevent conflicts with wolves. Still, helping maintain a balanced relationship between humans and expanding wolf populations will remain a significant conservation challenge.

Literature Cited
Boyd, D. K., S. H. Forbes, D. H. Pletscher, and F. W. Allendorf. 2001. Identification of Rocky Mountain gray wolves. Wildlife Soc. B. 29:78–85.

DeVoto, B. 1981. The Journals of Lewis and Clark. Houghton Mifflin, Company, Boston, MA.

Hampton, B. 1997. The Great American Wolf. Henry Holt and Company, Inc., New York, NY.

Jenness, S. E. 1985. Arctic wolf attacks scientist—a unique Canadian incident. Arctic 38(2):129–132.

Mech, L. D. 1998. Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf? revisited. International Wolf Magazine, Spring 1998:9–11.

Morey, D. E. 1994. The early evolution of the domestic dog. Am. Sci. 82:336–347.

Peterson, R. L. 1947. A record of a timber wolf attacking a man. J. Mammal. 28:294–295.

Vila, C. P., P. Savolainen, J. E. Maldonado, I. R. Amorim, J. E. Rice, R. L. Honeycutt, K. A. Crandall, J. Lunderberg, and R. K. Wayne. 1997. Multiple and ancient origins of the domestic dog. Science 276:1687–1689.

Vila, C. P., J. E. Maldonado, and R. K. Wayne. 1999. Phylogenetic relationships, evolution, and genetic diversity of the domestic dog. J. Hered. 90:71–77.

Young, S P. 1970. The Last of the Loners. The Macmillan Company, New York, NY.


link to article:
http://www.sinauer.com/groom/article.php?id=24
 

Chris Otahal (519)
Monday September 1, 2008, 11:01 pm
Wolf-human interactions in Alaska and Canada: a review of the case history

Auteur(s) / Author(s)
MCNAY Mark E. ;
Résumé / Abstract
After gray wolves (Canis lupus) were extirpated over a large portion of their North American range during the early 1900s, researchers reviewed the history of wolf-human encounters and concluded that wild, free-ranging wolves posed little or no threat to human safety. However, documented cases of wolf aggression toward people have recently increased, indicating a need for further examination of wolf-human interactions. I reviewed 80 cases of wolf-human encounters and compared behaviors of wild wolves that interacted with people in different contexts in Alaska and Canada. Only 1 case of unprovoked wolf aggression was documented between 1900 and 1969, but 18 cases of unprovoked wolf aggression toward people occurred between 1969 and 2000, including 3 cases of serious injury to children since 1996. Increases in wolf protection, human activities in wolf habitat, and wolf numbers occurred concurrently with increases in unprovoked aggressive encounters. Aggressive behavior was documented in all regions and among all wolf subspecies of Alaska and Canada. Wolves rarely vocalized during unprovoked aggressive encounters, but wolves that were defending dens consistently displayed loud vocalizations. Behavior of rabid wolves was variable and ranged from stubborn, persistent approaches to prolonged attacks. Habituation contributed to unprovoked wolf aggression toward people in 11 cases; nonhabituated wolves in remote areas displayed unprovoked aggression in 7 cases. Where wolves are protected and frequently encounter people, some level of negative conditioning should be applied to prevent habituated and food-conditioned behaviors in wolves.

sorry, only the abstract is available:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13967205
 

Chris Otahal (519)
Monday September 1, 2008, 11:09 pm
Deadly wolf attacks remain rare in North America, By SCOTT SANDSBERRY

Published on Thursday, January 18, 2007

Deadly wolf attacks remain rare in North America
By SCOTT SANDSBERRY
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC

Points North Landing is a remote outpost in northern Saskatchewan. It has a mining camp, a fishing lodge, a gravel airstrip, a freight-forwarding station where you can rent a trailer-type room -- provided you don't mind sharing the bathroom -- and not much else. Most who stop there are en route to someplace else.

For Kenton Carnegie, it was the end of the road.

In November 2005, Carnegie was a 22-year-old, third-year geological engineering student who, as part of his university's co-op program, was working with a survey company at Points North Landing.

He went for a walk and never came back. His body was found two hours later, mutilated by wild animals. The bite marks and the numerous tracks surrounding Carnegie's body led investigators to conclude he had been killed by wolves that, for months, had been scavenging at the mining camp's garbage dump.

If indeed wolves killed him, Carnegie is believed to be the first person killed by healthy wolves in the wild in North America.

There have been plenty of non-fatal attacks over the years, most of them in Alaska and Canada, home to more than 60,000 wolves. Many of them have been harrowing; most of them involved children.

Until the attack at Points North Landing, though, none had been deadly.

Nor has it surprised the experts who saw something like this as only a matter of time.

With homes and industry stretching increasingly further into what had been -- quite literally -- no man's land, and with wolf populations in the Lower 48 federally protected, wolf-human interactions have been on the rise.

So, in turn, has the wolves' habituation to humans. The wolves believed to have killed Carnegie had reportedly become increasingly brazen around the humans around the mining camp. And having access to a ready supply of food in the camp's dump simply made the wolves gave them no reason to leave.

"They learn to associate the presence of humans with food," says Mark McNay, a leading wolf authority with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game.

The incident at Points North Landing "was the classic thing, (that) you could turn wolves into large dogs by feeding them," says Ed Bangs, national wolf recovery coordinator for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. "And that's what happened in this situation. It was wolves habituated to the local dump.

"In terms of human safety, it didn't change anything. That didn't tell us anything we didn't already know."

Bangs' reference to large dogs may seem incongruous, but isn't. While wolf attacks have been increasing -- something McNay predicted would happen in his 2002 review of 80 wolf-human encounters in Alaska and Canada -- their threat to humans is still microscopic in comparison to that posed domestic dogs.

In the past quarter-century, dogs have killed more than 300 people in North America. And livestock predation by wolves -- which has remained one of the most heated issues since reintroduction efforts began in Yellowstone and Central Idaho in the mid-1990s -- remains miniscule in comparison to livestock killed by dogs. The only animal to kill more livestock than domestic dogs, in fact, are coyotes.

Does that mean Carnegie's death was an aberration in wolf history? Not necessarily. Wolves have killed hundreds of humans on other continents, most notably in France during the mid-1800s and over the last 30 years in India.

And attacks in North America have been on the rise for decades. During his research, McNay found only one documented case of unprovoked wolf aggression between 1900 and 1969 -- and 18 over the next two decades, including three cases of serious injury to children between 1996 and 2000. Last September, a wolf attacked two different families at separate times at a Canadian beachside park along Lake Superior, leaving four children bloodied but alive.

Even McNay, who believes educating humans in how their own behaviors affect predatory wildlife will minimize the danger of attack, doesn't believe it's foolproof. One of the problems, he says, is that humans very rarely even know when a wolf is nearby.

McNay says a wolf could be living in the woods around a house for weeks, feeding on small prey, seeing humans on a regular basis and -- not been seen in turn by the people -- never being chased off.

"Over time they realize these people are not a threat, because every time there encounter the person there's not a threatening situation," he says. "Most of the time the people wouldn't even know the wolves were there.

"Then one of these days there's a wolf in your yard, you see it, it sees you ... and it doesn't even run."

A story from McNay's own research, though, is just as likely an indicator that, given a choice and a steady supply of their regular diet, wolves will continue to leave mankind alone.

In the early 1990s, a muskrat trapper in Manitoba came upon a spot where a wolf had killed a deer near the edge of a frozen lake. It was getting dark, but the trapper followed the tracks and drag marks into a nearby tree stand. As he entered the trees, he was stopped by a loud growl from the darkness nearby ... and wisely departed.

The next day, he returned to the same spot and found what was left of the kill -- scattered hair and a piece of a jawbone -- amid the tracks of what must have been four or five wolves.

The night before, he had nearly walked into the scene of a fresh kill, guarded by one wolf and probably several more.

And he had simply been asked to leave.

http://www.mtechservices.ca/Kenton/index.php?topic=157.0
 

Pete Conrads (92)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 2:07 am
Thanks Frank :o) Noted.....

Warm regards and best wishes to everyone.....
 

Hans L. (958)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 9:51 am
Thanks Frank! Wildlife can be very dangerous! Thats why they call it wildlife! Thank god we still have wildlife on this planet! I hope that trophy hunters will not kill all wolves!
No need to panic if the wolves come and get you just call your friends!
I am sure that $arah will come and resque you!
 

Chris Otahal (519)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 9:58 am
The fearmongering and villification of the wolf - along with the "they need to be managed" BS from your previous thread, Frank, is reminensent of the "good old boy" days back in the early 1900's - the smae aditude and "thought" process that lead to the near extinction of wolves in the lower 48 states - and why they needed to be listed as endangered species. You really need to come up to speed - this is the 21st century :) Instead of promoting the areial "hunting" of wolves, you may want to look at the real issues and sollutins if you truely care about human/wolf interactions...
 

Arielle S. (227)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 10:01 am
It's just possible we ARE all beyond hope, Frank - everyone knows the most dangerous animal of all is the human one. For example, I bet Putin's dog almost never says "If we are lucky, the wolves will get you."
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 10:21 am
Jaeger sind Moerder
Hunters are killers

Why do we need trophyhunting? Wolves should be protected like polar bears...polar bears are more dangerous than any other animal but this does not mean that you have to shoot them!

Go Vegan Frank you will love it!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 10:35 am
Wolves should be protected! Sarah Palin would probably kill everything not just polar bears and wolves...lets hope that people will learn how to respect nature after all before it is too late! Killing wolves is the best protection of wolves.....just wait until i hear this...
 

Erik K. (33)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 12:46 pm
Professed animal lover, Frank, has recently posted 7 news articles of anti-wolf propaganda to support his pro-choice candidate's policy of gunning down entire packs of wolves, and now bears too, from airplanes.

Frank...Send us some pictures of you wearing dead animals so I can add them to my collection of Sarah Palin covered in fur.
 

Laurel W. (217)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm
Snow White lied. We should not be killing any wolves or coyotes for that matter.

Sarah Palin should leave the wolves alone and stop with her 5 babies and anti-abortion stance. NOW, NARAL and Feminist Majority will not tolerate any woman trying to take away birth control rights! The fact she kills wolves is just nails in her coffin.
 

DoNotMessage G. (267)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 1:16 pm
This is definitely anti wolf propaganda, as the vid said in the end, "stay away" can the wolves have just a little land? Just a small area? Everything is over run by humans, cold, callous humans. Keep pushing an animal into a corner and it will react. How many incidents are there like this? Ridiculous that this comes out after the pro wolf killer joins the big race.
I am so glad the women were not killed, and the darling Pittie Buddy! I would have been terrified as well, but they were not injured, and the sweet Buddy is okay. What was the final verdict of these women? Are they pro killers of wolves or just frightened by them? I have been bit by several dogs in my life, and I never wanted any of them dead.
Careful, Putin, humans are dangerous animals, they are responsible for the murder of many primates.
;]
 

Pete Conrads (92)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 3:08 pm
Good point Sheila :o) lol!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 3:19 pm
Some, not all humans are dangerous Sheila. We ARE all animals though...
 

Erik K. (33)
Tuesday September 2, 2008, 3:28 pm
Great point! We are all animals, so let's stop playing god. Palin calling for the deaths of Wolves and Bears in order to open up land to drill oil is just disgusting. It's just more dead animal skin Palin can parade around in...
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 12:11 am
Noted
 

Clever Pseudonym (176)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 3:40 am
Fabulous to see you got your first Golden Note, Frank. Now this story will be associated with your profile forever.

I'm really disappointed that your comment about how you hoped the wolves would get me was removed. Trust me, I didn't report it. I worked pretty hard to make sure this story stuck to you.

I'm happy anyway. I'm disappointed that your first ammendment right to wish death on me was violated but I think it's all good. I may even feel at peace enough to stay away from you and the Palins. You can go on instigating and telling everyone how persecuted you are, I will try not be drawn into it anymore.
 

Erik K. (33)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 7:30 am
Very pathetic post. I only noted it to attribute the trolling to the troll. Now Frank can run with this to the McCain to validate him being on the payroll... Way to go Frank!
 

Terrie Williams (482)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 8:52 am
And this video is supposed to make me scared of wolves????

They were doing what is natural for them to do Frank--investigating that which has ENCROACHED into THEIR territory. The pit bull (NOT an American Bulldog as the reporter stated) was only doing what it does naturally--defending its master. The wolves, had they been serious about killing--would have killed the pit in short order--they didn't. 3 to 1 odds of wild against domesticated wins every time, Frank, even against pit bulls. Had they been serious about killing the women, they would have. Those women would have been more wise to not have started screaming (which amps up both the wolves and the dog). But eventually they did do something right, they walked (not RAN) backwards without turning their backs and were able to extricate themselves from the situation. If the wolves were wanting to kill--they would have done so when their backs were turned to them!!! It is the same tactic used with Cougars, Tigers and Bears--never run and never take your eyes off them.

Wolves kill Coyotes too AND WALK AWAY FROM THE KILL. Why? Because of T E R R I T O R Y. Wolves don't eat Coyotes and they don't eat dogs. I wish that Alaskan Wildlife Management guy they interviewed would GET EDUCATED!!!! Wolves will not eat dogs! Kill them, yes, eat them, NO. Mate with them--sometimes (i.e., Red Wolf populations in deep East Texas have mated with both Coyotes and dogs to survive extinction hence there are no more pureblooded Red Wolves in TX).

Wolves kill to eat or to protect/defend their territory. We humans do not respect their territories. The more we encroach the more they will investigate and defend their areas. No brainer, Frank.

Wolves are, in many ways, far more intelligent than humans and that is what frightens humans. And in some ways they are very like us--and that, most of all, scares the crap out of people. But I know YOU wouldn't know about that would you, Frank--that would mean actually getting yourself EDUCATED about a species you apparently so despise.

Killing out (so-called 'management') a species by gunning them down from planes/helocopters is sick and perverted. It only goes to show that we humans are the most depraved species on this planet. It also speaks to our GREED and lust for control. God forbid anything, even other species, live in co-existance with us, that might interfere with our raping the planet of its resources and God forbid we SHARE with other predators that which was put here for THEIR sustenance as well. Can't have that can we, Frank. Can't have any NATURAL COMPETITION when we WANT IT ALL.

Just so you know before you wish to engage me in debate, Frank, I am a former park ranger/naturalist and have been around up-close and personal-like with wolves, coyotes and bears. I know their behaviors infinately better than you ever will.
 

Karin B. (26)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 10:42 am
Frank: You don't get it, do you? Most people do not think anymore that it is ok to kill our predators. Palin would have NEVER been able to reinstate aerial hunting of wolves had she not wasted $400,000 in tax payer money to run ads demonizing wolves. A campaign that was supported by a safari outfit that profits from aerial hunting.

Had you done your research, you would also have known that wolf attacks are very rare, and usually only happen if people encroach on wolf territory.
 

Erik K. (33)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 10:49 am
The McSame campaign does not pay Frank to think...

They conduct their own research for their online trolls...
 

Jennifer W. (6)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 12:20 pm
Sorry not going to note your story Frank. I have coyotes that live in my back yard in TN. Yes, they can be dangerous and we are aware of them. Doesnt mean I'm going to kill them! Why do I have more of a right to be here than they do? Or maybe Gov. Palin would like to pay me $150 if I send the dead, rotting carcus of one of them to her door step??
 

Josee Bayeur (50)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 12:50 pm
And Geronimo said to Gatewood when surrendering: Why does the White-Eye want all land?
 

Erik K. (33)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 12:59 pm
Good post Jennifer! She'll probably turn the carcass into a new coat!
 

RUTH M. (0)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 11:02 pm
Dogs kill other dogs,a few people & maim many. Alligators love to eat dogs,(Have been seen climbing chain link fence in the city to get one) & attack & sometimes kill people, Sharks maim & or kill people. People kill people.
God put animals on this earth to live in natural habitat setting that should not be controlled by the likes of Sarah Palin. Wolves are not mans enemy, Man & Sarah Palin are the wolfs enemy. I don't see how she can live with herself condoning senseless slaughter. If man/woman wants to hunt let them hunt the old fashioned way of walking with their hunting gear & killing ONLY what they will eat.
 

Sandy V. (91)
Thursday September 4, 2008, 1:27 am
Thank you Chris and Terri. Much love from all the wolves and me. Very well said:)
 

Michael Ruger (17)
Thursday September 4, 2008, 4:05 am
I couldn''t get the video on my computer so I am flying blind on this one.
We all know of the cruelity humans have done to Wolves for many centuries.
Here in Pa several Men who had a Puppy mill shot 80 of their inventory ,because the state wanted proper medical treatment for their products.
If I am not mistaken all of todays dogs sprang from the Wolf.
Those charming helpless ladies if they were on most any street in America and were attack by their own species. I am afraid they would be a lot worse off if they survived.So are they calling for the killing of all felons.

What can I tell you about the wolf?I guess only this . Wolves rum in a pack. Each pack supports the good of itself. They have a society like humans,but wolves will defend and take care of everyone in their pack . Humans on the other hand it is every human for himself.
I would bet those wolves wanted those doggies for dinner ,not the those ladies.
Now those ladies I would bet love to eat Caribou,but unfortunently the wolves have no say in the ladies quiseine.
Last for a species that pats itself on the back because they claim they can think. Humans are still childlike thinkers with the song who is Afraid Of the Big Bad Wslf being number 1 on their charts.
The wolf on the otherhand just continues to do what Mother Earth commands it to do.Keep our Earth in balance
 

Kathy Olsen (0)
Thursday September 4, 2008, 4:07 am
Education from a early age concerning the preservation and protection of wildlife and other animals should be a regular part of the education process.After all, the animals were all here before we were.It is our job to take care of the animals that God gave to us,not mame and kill them.We have alot to learn from them.After all the wolves they have survived all of man's ignorant attempts to drive them to distinction and kill them.We can coexist and adapt.We have the knowledge.We just have to start using it.
 
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