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The Battle Among Catholic Bishops

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A previously silent group, upset over conservative colleagues defining the church's public posture and eagerly picking fights with President Obama, has had enough.

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Robert T (62)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 6:59 am
A Quote:
The headlines this week were about lawsuits brought by 43 Catholic organizations, including 13 dioceses, to overturn regulations issued by the Obama administration that require insurance plans to cover contraception under the new health-care law. But the other side of this news was also significant: The vast majority of the nation’s 195 dioceses did not go to court.
Another Quote:
But in recent months, a series of events — among them the Vatican’s rebuke of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, encouraged by right-wing U.S. bishops — have angered more progressive Catholics and led to talk among the disgruntled faithful of the need for a “Catholic spring” to challenge the hierarchy’s shift to the right.

Bishop Stephen E. Blaire of Stockton, Calif., broke the silence on his side Tuesday in an interview with Kevin Clarke of the Jesuit magazine America. Blaire expressed concern that some groups “very far to the right” are turning the controversy over the contraception rules into “an anti-Obama campaign.”

Kit B (276)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 8:02 am

Indeed, what else is at the heart of this but an anti-Obama campaign expressed from the organizations that are meant to be silent about politics? Obama has not said that all must take contraceptives, only that any person wanting them should have covered access. It matters little whether these messages come from the Catholic or any other denominational, churches are allowed a tax exemption for doing work to aid the needy in their communities, not to use their standing in a community as a Bully Pulpit.

To date, the arguments I have read and seen are a convoluted twist on the real discussion, the need for all insurance to fairly and honestly offer coverage for women's health. If anyone thinks pregnancy is not a part of women's health then they lack the understanding that pregnancy is far more then carrying a baby to term.

Thursday May 24, 2012, 9:59 am
I agree wholeheartedly with Kit's comments. As an ex-Catholic, I am totally disgusted by the church continually getting involved in politics and health care. Most Catholics do not agree with the conservative stance on birth control, yet a certain minority segment of the church feels compelled to now take legal action. Of course, any such action will cost the government (us) money even if the suits go nowhere. Taxpayers should wonder why these types of organizations continue to get away with being tax exempt and the rest of us have to foot the bill for them to cram their so-called 'religious' views down our throats.

Robert B (60)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 11:00 am
Must the "20/80" rule. 20% of the people cause 80% of the problems.

David C (131)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 4:50 pm
noted. thanks.

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 24, 2012, 9:47 pm
Those who fail to submit to their chosen religion's mandates will go to Hell.
Won't they??? Thought that was the whole premise, "do as we say or Go to Hell!"
If Catholic church members are not following Catholic rules, ex-communicate them.
Stop trying to take over the entire society and force your will on everyone.
Just ex-commnicate the 98% of Catholics who use birth control, stand on your principles. Eliminate the overcrowding in Heaven.
Think how much real estate the 2% of Catholics remaining could control!!!
Catholics would be as rich as Corporatists!
They could support Fascist 2% Party together!
Imagine that - Politicians, the Rich and Religious working together to control the other 98% of the people... oh yeah, we already have that.
Taxes should be paid on that real estate if Catholics want a voice in MY country's government.
Maybe if Catholic Priests didn't rape Catholic children, Catholics would feel better about not using birth control.
America to Catholic leaders; we have equality for all Americans.
That is the rule, if you don't like that "Go to Hell".
Keep your rules inside your church, if your people don't obey them that is your problem - not to be enforced by any American law that dictates inequalty.
Americans do not deserve to be denied benefits because they are not Catholic.
This is a Catholic issue, NOT a political issue.

Norm C (74)
Saturday May 26, 2012, 2:45 pm
Unfortunately, the liberal wing of the Catholic Church in the US has been under systematic attack by Rome for decades. The last Christian popes may have been John XXIII and Tom Conti (as Leo XIV in Saving Grace [1986]). The Church has been firmly under the control of institutional control freaks and allies of socioeconomic and political elites since at least the late 70s as well as long before John XXIII. They have paid lip service to the teachings of Christ but have ruled almost as though they are disciples of Genghis or Kublai Khan (no disrespect for the Khans intended).


Nancy C (806)
Sunday June 3, 2012, 9:33 am
And yet my sister and her life partner, both with doctoral degrees), have taught in a Catholic college for 30 years. The tea bagger Catholics need to jump into reality.
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