Friday March 30, 2007, 11:02 pm
OMG, that is absolutely aweful!!

Friday March 30, 2007, 11:10 pm
There is something profoundly a matter with our morals and values in this country when a 10 year-old child commits such a horrible crime. How many more wake-up calls do we need?

Friday March 30, 2007, 11:26 pm
This truly outraged me to see. There are an overwhelming number of homeless veterans in the US, many of whom suffer from PTSD and other mental illnesses. It reflects back to the parents. Why would any child feel is it alright or funny or sport to harm another person? What have they NOT been taught at home? Respect, compassion, empathy are just a few things that come to mind.

Friday March 30, 2007, 11:28 pm
17 years old and months away from being legal. What a waste of humanity.

Bullies will always be bullies until they meet a bigger bully. Hopefully his bigger bully will be in prison where he will be shown how low on the food chain he is, by a bully who will have his life subsidized by the state for the rest of his life.

What has happened to our youth???

Friday March 30, 2007, 11:37 pm
This is disgraceful...what are 10yrs old doing in society like this. Don't their parents have any control...looks like they will grow up to commit even bigger crimes if this is how they act now. I hope they get punished and not just a caution because they are underaged. I hope this poor man recovers and is looked after.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:11 am
My heart aches for this man and I feel that children are being increasingly desensitized to violence. Torture is part of prime time entertainment for teens in North America. These shows have high ratings.

Al in all...a very sad testament to our fall from grace and compassion.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:11 am
My heart aches for this man and I feel that children are being increasingly desensitized to violence. Torture is part of prime time entertainment for teens in North America. These shows have high ratings.

Al in all...a very sad testament to our fall from grace and compassion.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:13 am
They way children are raised today with most parents out of the home working 2 or 3 jobs to keep the family off the street, it's not much wonder this is happening. The question at 8 pm should be do you know where your children are? If not you are as guilty as these parents. The parents should also be put on probation, then the kids will learn where the fancy clothes and bikes and toys come from, because if mom and dad can't work those extra hours "santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy", whatever ain't coming then they learn what they screwed up.The big question for me is where is the Veterans Affairs Dept, Why is a veteran living on the street homeless?

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:20 am
Thats a good question Lamargo...where is the vets dept

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:47 am
It is unfair to try and point the finger at parents. As a mother of a foster son, who went missing, it hurts to hear someone lay blame on parents who are bending over backwards to get help for a child. At 14 the high school has given up, Dept of Children is running out of options, the psychologist gave up. The only ones not giving up at the moment is us. We hunted everywhere for him. We were about to call the cops (24 hour wait) when he walks in. Where have you been? Why? Because I wanted to! Should we resort to chaining him to his room to prevent this happening again and again? And then the same people pointing fingers at innocent parents start yelling abuse again? Damned if we do and damned if we don't? Is that fair?

Society & government have created a mess that is getting more and more out of hand. Don't spank the children, if you do the child or others will scream abuse. Teachers can no longer discipline, we've taught the child to cry abuse at every little thing. Or let's just sue this person or that person. Rules are for others, not them. If they commit a crime, the law does not get justice for the victiim. WE, all of us, have created the monsters within a child. We have left them with no hope for a brighter future. They have war and poverty, injustice and disillusionment to look forward to in their future.

As a family, we are poor. Rich with love and caring and understanding, can house and shelter and take in a foster child ontop of our own child. Our foster son has been with us 4 years, the only family that has lasted more than 3 months with him. There are no name brands to be bought, each penny is a daily struggle. But that doesn't mean we are 'bad' worthless, not trying, parents!

If there is blame to be pointed out, then we need to point at ourselves. The past twenty years of 'adults' and government created the world as it is today.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:53 am
Oh, I do feel for the victim in this piece. Everything that has happened to him, including things aside from this 10 yr old, is wrong and unfair and unjust.

Brings to mind when a 12 year old pushed a 5 yr old into the river, knowing he could not swim. The child died. The courts decided that the 12 yr old could not be held accountable due to mental deficiency, that his mental age was that of an 8 yr old. My son was 8 at the time. I asked if he would know better than to do that. He did. Did the courts do right by the teen? Did they do right by the victim and his family? No on both counts. Were the parents of the drowned child at fault for allowing a young child to go to the river unattended? What of the parents of the mentally deficient teen? Unless you know the full story behind families, it is unfair to make judgements.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:56 am
Kids are idiots these days! What fucking retards. My heart goes out to the victim.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 12:59 am
If you have cable tv you may have come across a 'documentary' film by a 20 something year old and how they used and abused a homeless man, oh, they did 'pay' him, for fun. It was broadcast. It showed explicitly the abuse and harm done to this man. Makes you wonder where these two 10 yr olds and teens got the idea from. Shall we blame parents once more for allowing a child to view such a thing? Or is the media to blame for allowing such a film? What if your child views it at YOUR house, are you then to blame?

Pointing fingers does NOT solve the problem. We ALL need to focus on the problems and find a solution.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 1:00 am
Oops...I meant...if MY child views it at YOUR house....

Sorry, a bit fired up about this topic.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 1:02 am
No Buzby. Today's kids are NOT idiots. They are very intelligent and very aware of the laws and their rights. WE taught them that.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 1:47 am
Buzby, I think it is an insult, not that you intended it that way, to the mentally retarted, as most mentally retarded people have more compassion and good sense than to commit such a horrible crime.
As for the Gov. As I have said time and again, they have a "use 'em and loose 'em" mentallity. "Thanks for fighting our war, now go away and disappear". SHAME on the US Gov!
Emmarie, I agree that most parents do try to do their best to raise their children. I applaud you for taking in and loving an unwanted child.
Also, though, as Lamargo points out, many parents, unfortunately do not supervise their children well. They allow them to watch tv programs that depict and glorify violence, they buy horribly violent video games for their children and then wonder why their child would do something cruel to someone.
If children are not taught to value all life, to respect others, to have compassion for the weak and needy, then how can they be expected to act like civilized human beings?

Saturday March 31, 2007, 4:28 am
what happened to these kids? are they on drugs? they are not supposed doing these kind of acts.,..its brutality! there must be a family problem too in their own home that's why they rebel...parents should act on this now if now what will happen to the next generation? these kids when they grown up...probably always on jail! these kind of brutality should stop!

Saturday March 31, 2007, 5:14 am
Noted

Saturday March 31, 2007, 6:12 am
I see from three angles. One as a mother, one as a teacher, and one as someone very much attached to multiple vets.
How can this country let our vets - the people who have fought and defended our way of life through many conflicts - not be cared for. How disgraceful that the government has, and continues to use and neglect our military personnel.
As a teacher I see the level to which our society has slipped and is continuing to slip. No discipline is allowed that may 'damage' a child's self-esteem. PUH-LEEZE! Teaching a child right from wrong, how to use the gifts he/she has, how to respect others and others' property is parenting. And parenting is from parents as well as teachers and other responsible adults. As a parent who raised two children to adulthood by myself, I know it is not an easy task. I feel for those who are trying to do the right thing in today's world. But I also see the other side of that coin. I see many more 'parents' who are to blame for NOT taking the time to raise the children. I see the adults who are more interested in sitting around getting state aid or abusing or just ignoring the children that are in their care. I see children who are smart enough to use the system abusively, even at the young age of 10 (maybe younger).
Our current system allows money-grubbing lawyers and 'experts' that are making a society of 'It's not my fault' citizens. These people are encouraging people that they can do anything and not take responsibility for their actions.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 6:45 am
I agree with all of you! If I were the judge in this case the punishment would be for these three would be to go to a boot camp until they are 21..........All three of these boys will commit another crime before they reach 30, and the next one might be murder!

Think of tomorrow-
plant a seed
grow a forest
for Mother Nature
and her animals..................

Saturday March 31, 2007, 6:49 am
What has America the Beautiful come to?

Saturday March 31, 2007, 7:12 am
There are a multitude of reasons these ten year olds comimitted this. My first question is what is a 17 year old doing with ten year olds? Where are the parents? What are we as society doing to prevent or cause this behavior in youth? Every example on tv these days is violence; look at our government, the prime example. It is ok to lie, to torture, etc. Boot camp for the ten year olds is not the answer. Remember, in Florida we kill the youth or they get raped at the boot camp. I've seen youth go into the system to only be released as a hardened criminal; for that we take the blame.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 7:14 am
I've devastating results through my work in prison ministry at different levels. The juvenile systems need to be re worked from inside out so the youth can be benefitted.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 9:15 am
I recently had a similar discussion about finger pointing people with a colleague. People like to blame the parents, but I firmly believe that it is not always the fault of the parents. Most children in today's society are very well aware of their "rights" and they also make their own choices. Most people like to point fingers at single working parents but what about the children of preachers, children of presidents, the children of royal families and the upper class? Do we not hear almost daily about the trouble those youths have gotten into over the years? Yes, we do. A child can be raised in a solid family surrounded by love and still make bad choices from something minor to something horrendous like what has happened to this poor man. Look what is allowed to show on TV, the music allowed in today's society, look at the magazines, the video games. How much of that is filled with violence? The majority of it, right? Today’s values have sunk to an extreme low and it is up to the people to stop pointing fingers and just do something about it. Stop allowing the extreme violence to be shown on TVs, movies, games, etc. Speak up about it. Stop pointing fingers and trying to lay blame. The more people who speak up and start opposing the violence on TV and in the video games, the entertainment industry will finally have to start taking notice and start cleaning it up. Indigo, made a comment about today’s youth being desensitized. Well, we can thank what the children see and hear everyday for that. They also see how the legal system works and how it also fails. The youths of today are much more aware of what is going on in society and the world than any other generation has been. It is so easy to point fingers, but instead of pointing fingers, use those fingers to sign petitions and letters geared toward the entertainment industry and other venues about the violence that is brought into our lives and homes on a daily basis. (Oh, and for those of you who are wondering, yes, I am a single parent. I have raised two boys - one is in college studying to become a marine biologist and the other is still in high school with hopes of going into law enforcement.) My prayers go out to that poor man and I pray he receives the help he needs. I am also praying for the three youths involved in committing such a heinous act.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 9:43 am
If people wouldn't turn away, and pretend that the homeless didn't exist, things like this could be prevented. VET hospitals and aid for them has been cut back drastically........whose to blame? Maybe those uninformed, that don't pay attention when a bill is passed......I feel for this man. I hope the children get the help the need and are not turned into "throw away" children. Mentally challenged, some of the most loving people I've ever met....I enjoy my time with the Special Olympics each year.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 10:47 am
If veteran care were better the ivctim of this attack might not have been out on the street. But in a country considered the land of the free and home of the brave, a vet as well as school youth should be allowed to walk down the street. There is something wrong witht the 17 year old with two 10 year olds. BAsed on the local history of two other people having been beaten to death by youth in the area, the kids should be glad if intervention now can prevent their commiting a greater crime.
Yes, my son of 12 would agree that this is not correct in any way shape or form. Bullying never is. Our youth needs to learn that abusing others is no way to increase self estime. Showing respect can creat respect. Holly T
PS the homeless vet business was and remains a serious problem. If a country can not care for thouse who have fought for the country in the past, they should not be sending more people out. They will, in turn, also need help and if help is in short supply now,......HT

Saturday March 31, 2007, 10:54 am
When the government turns it's back, so do most people.. homeless = helpless, not worth bothering about.. stinkin' Conservative Compassion gets harsher every day!:(

Saturday March 31, 2007, 11:28 am
NOTED. PUT PRAYER BACK IN THE SCHOOL'S TO START THE KIDS OFF WITH A GOOD BEGINNING. ( JUST IN CASE THEY HAVE A BAD DAY) PUT CHILDREN BACK IN CHURCHES . PARANTS NEED TO BE PARENTS. ( NOT FRIENDS.) THE GOVERMENT MADE IT SO BAD THAT EVERY PARENT HAS TO WORK. SO NO ONE IS HOME WITH THE KIDS. ( THE COMPUTER, TV,CELL PHONES, AND THEIR FRIENDS,) SO THE KIDS HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THEN TO GO OUT AND KILL .FAMILY'S ARE BROKEN DOWN TODAY.SAD BUT TRUE.NOT LIKE IT WAS IN THE 40'S & 50'S. ONE PARENT WORKING ,EVERYONE SAT DOWN AT DINNER & BREAKFEST ,& LUNCH. HOME MADE COOK MEALS EVERY DAY, CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY & SOMETIMES THEW THE WEEK. YOU GOT MORE NO'S THEN YES. BACK THEN. AWAYS PRAYER IN SCHOOL. EVERY MORNING.IF YOU WERE BAD IN SCHOOL YOU WERE SENT TO THE P OFFICE . YOU WERE SCARE AS HELL NO QUESTIONS ASK YOU GOT PADDLE . YOUR PARENTS GOT A CALL. NOT GOOD .YOU WERE SCARED LIKE HELL .THE THOUGHT ABOUT FACEING YOUR PARENTS WAS SO SCARIE.BEFOR YOU GET IN THE DOOR EVERY NEAUGBOR HEARD THE NEW'S & YOU GOT JACK UP BY NEAUGHBORS ,GRANDPARENTS . YOU HAD CHORSE TO DO AFTER SCHOOL AND WEEK-ENDS. YOU HELP WITH MEALS DID THE DISHES AFTER EVERYMEAL. NO TV AT ALL .NONE. ONLY IF IT WAS IMPOINTAIN NEWS .PARTY'S WHAT A JOKE. IF YOU DID GO!! YOU HAD EVERY PARENT WATCHING YOU LIKE A HOCK. BACK THEN WE ALL HAD BLOCK PARTY'S. THE COPS WERE THERE & EVERY PARENT WAS THERE. WE HAD TO BE IN THE HOUSE AT 9:00 OCLOCK . BEFOR THE STREET LIGHT CAME ON. IF YOU MISS THE LIGHTS! OR YOUR PARENTS HAD TO LOOK FOR YOU . YOU GOT A BEATEN. NO QUESTIONS ASK.YOU WERE IN HUGE TROUBLE. BOYS YOU WERE NEVER ALOWED TO BE AROUND . IF YOU SAT ON A BUS GOING TO SCHOOL YOU SAT WITH THE SAME SEX. NEVER A BOY. AND THE BUS WAS QUIET. IF YOU GOT PG BY A BOY BACK THEN YOU WERE DISPECTED BY EVERYONE IN THE NEAUGBERHOOD. YOUR FAMILY BLACK BALL YOU FROM THE FAMILY FOR DISRESPECTING THE FAMILY NAME. YOUR PARENTS MADE YOU REMEMBER TO KEEP YOUR BODY A TEMPLE OF GOD.& NOT LIKE A TRASH CAN. THAT MAN TREATED YOU LIKE A QUEEN & YOU KEPT YOUR LEGS SHUT UNTILL YOU GOT MARRIED. YOU HAD RESPECT FOR YOURSELF & THAT MAN DID ALSO. BUT TODAY THE CHILDREN ARE OUT OF CONTROL. THEY NEED TO BRING BACK SOME OF THE OLD RULE'S.!! TIME HAS CHANGE NOT FOR THE GOOD. FAMILY'S TODAY ALL THINK ABOUT MONEY.GIVING YOUR KIDS THE BEST .AND PARENTS TODAY WANT TO BE THEIR KIDS FRIENDS. I FEEL THE HIGHTEST HONOR IS A PARENT. & NO FRIEND IN THE WORLD WILL TAKE THAT CROWN FROM ME. AS FAR AS THEASE PUNKS GO WHO BEAT UP THE HOMELESS MAN !!!. THEY BOTH NEED PUT IN BOOT CAMP UP TILL THE AGE OF 20 & DO HARD TIME IN BOOT CAMP. THE FOUNDATION OF THE FAMILY IS NOT THERE . THIS IS WHY OUR YOUNG YOUTH ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THE PARENTS ARE SCARE OF THERE KIDS. & YOU CAN THANK THE LAWS FOR THAT. THEY ARE THE ONE'S WHO TOLD THE KIDS CALL 911 IF YOUR PARENTS HIT YOU . MANY DAYS I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH BLACK &BLUE MARKS ON ME . NEVER DID A TEACHER ASK WHAT HAPPEN HONEY ? WHO DID THAT TO YOU? WE NEED TO CALL THE COP'S. THE TEACHER S SAID GOOD I'LL KNOW YOU WILL THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU DID WRONG NEXT TIME. TODAY THE TEACHER LOOK AT A CHILD & DON'T ASK QUESTIONS THEY JUST BLAME THE PARENTS FOR THE MARKS ON THE CHILD. NOW THE CHILD FILLS HE'S THE BOSS. & ITS ALL OUT OF CONTROL. THE KIDS HAVE THE SAY SO. COME IN WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT. OUT IN THE STREET IN TO DRUGS SEX & BEATING & KILLING WHEN THEY WANT TO. YOU CAN THANK THE LAWS FOR TAKEN THE POWER OUT OF THE PARENTS HANDS. NOW THE LAWS HAS THE PROBLEM WITH CHILDRENS COURTS .THIS IS WHY THEY ARE BUILDING MORE JAILS. MY CHILDREN ARE ALL GROWN UP. AND I RAISE THEM THE WAY I WAS RAISE. I GOT BEATENS ,TOLD I HAD TO DO WORK ,WAS NOT ALOWED TO HAVE M FRIENDS. HAD TO BE IN THE HOUSE BEFORE 9:00 OCLOCK. I NEVER TOLD MY PARENTS WHAT I WANTED FOR CHRISTMAS, BIRTHDAY, EASTER, THEY GAVE ME WHAT THEY WANTED .I ONLY REMEMBER MY 16TH BIRTHDAY. IT WAS SO NICE ONLY GIRLS AT MY PARTY . NEVER NO BOYS. BUT THATS THE ON;LY PARTY I EVERY HAD! TODAY KIDS GET A PARTY FOR EVERY YEAR AND THE GIFTS THAT THEY GET. WOW. I GOT FOR MY 16TH BIRTHDAY A PEARL NECKLACE. THAT I TOUGHT WAS SO BEAUTFUL. I STILL HAVE IT TO THIS DAY. THE WORLD HAS CHANGE .IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT. OR LIKE THE CHANGE !.THE WORLD IS SO FAST NOT EVEN THE PARENTS KNOW HOW TO JUST STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR FAMILY & SEE HOW IT LOOKS. ! GOD SAID'S PEACE BE STILL.!! STOP & LOOK SLOW DOWN . MAYBE YOU WILL SEE THE DOWNWARED DIRECTION'S YOUR FAMILY IS GOING. I HAVE ONE G.CHILD. AND I PRAY FOR THIS CHILD WHEN I PRAY FOR MY CHILDREN. MY PARENTS WERE TUFF ON ME AS I WAS GROWING IN TO A ADULT. AND I THANK THEM EVERYDAY IT MADE ME THE PERSON I AM TODAY. LOVING AND CAREING OF EVERYONE .AND I HOLD THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR EVERY HUMAN BEING NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE ARE WHER YOU COME FROM. RICH OR POOR .ORANGE OR PURPLE COLOR IS NO COLOR IN MY EYE'S . THIS IS THE WAY I WAS RAISE . RESPECT HONOR & LOVE . AND I THANK MY PARENTS FOR TEACHING ME THE WAY'S OF THE HEART . THE WORLD IS NOT IN THIS SHAPE BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON! IT TAKES THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD TO GO ALONG WITH THE BREAK DOWN OR RULES. ONE PLACE THE BREAK DOWN OF RULES SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IS THE FAMILY FOUNDATION .WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE FAMILY FOUNDATION ITS LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE ON SAND . IT WILL SURELY FALL. AND WE SEE IT EVERYDAY JUST LOOK AT OUR YOUNG YOUTH. YOU ACN SEE THEIR HOUSE IS BUILT ON SAND. PEACE BE STILL .PEACE & LIGHT.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 11:57 am
noted, and the comments are very noteworthy. i agree with everyone, and feel the emotions, but as ginni stated...it's a three way street here. veterans, children, and parents and or society. my concern is for the children, at such a young age doing this to a homeless man (vet). i hope that all goes well. your comments, emmarie, and princess are especially endearing, and i sense your very strong feelings on this subject. amen to that. thankx for this story getting out. it needs to be heard loud and clear.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 3:31 pm
I swear, some of the children (and teenagers) that I've seen as I go about my day are frankly quite frightening; where is their respect?! Honestly, there is something seriously wrong with our country and our "values" if this is happening. Why are we not programed for a more family-friendly society? I bring this up because of the parents; where are they in this whole affair and why are they not truly being parents? Because of the grinding, unflexible work schedual, the superficial idolization of fancy possessions, and the snubbing of true families.

And why are our veterans on the streets? Why is anybody on the streets? If we can't support and care for these people, then what are our leaders thinking? I can guess that future generations will know more about us than we want them to know.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 4:17 pm
Prayer in schools and send them to church? Oh, please! Who's prayers? Organized religion is responsible for fostering bigotry, hate, intolerance, homophobia...TEACH your children to be ethical , respectful, caring and compassionate human beings. That comes from the parents, not from the church, generally speaking.
Read the following stories, please; http://www.care2.com/news/member/138190545/337728 , http://www.care2.com/news/member/434996229/307330 ,
http://www.care2.com/news/member/424928343/318409

Saturday March 31, 2007, 4:22 pm
Children in the US and I am not for one minute pointing the finger at ALL..but there has been a lot of violence in the US by children for many years..they had guns..they shot the kids at school, they have had too much leeway for too long and the damage is done..What happened to Bill Clintons ideals on children..did it go out the window with BuSH administration.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 6:09 pm
Lauren........I agree with all the comments so far to a degree but, your last comment makes more sense than anything I've read!!!!!!!!!!! Your words are comparable to one I've made many time regarding animals, particularly whales: Pray all you want but do something, anything to help the whales!

Your comments about the church is so damned true........It is indeed the parents who have the most impact on how a child turns out. One comes to this conclusion on impact from many many years of observation of ones own children and those you come to know...........So, it is apparent to me there is something missing in the way these three boys were raised and I doubt they come from well educated well meaning caring parents too!

Think of tomorrow-
plant a seed
grow a forest
for Mother Nature
and her animals.......................

Saturday March 31, 2007, 7:03 pm
It is not just children in the US. Don't close your eyes to the same sort of violence done by children here in Australia. In the past ten years in this country that violence has been on the rise. It's not a continental problem. It is a worldwide problem. You can blame all you want. It doesn't change anything.

The future is in the hands of our children. How they live today was wrought from past mistakes. We can only make a difference right here and now, in the present. And if we don't then the future becomes even bleaker.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 7:51 pm
I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE BLAMING THE 10 YR. OLD CHILD WHEN THEY SHOULD BE QUESTIONING WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR SOCIETY THAT HAS CHANGED TODAYS YOUTH TO FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS AND THAT THEY KNOW THEIR SO-CALLED RIGHTS, THEY HAVE TOO MANY RIGHTS AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ANY LONGER TOWARDS DISIPLINING THE YOUTH OF THIS DAY. WHEN OUR RIGHTS AS PARENTS WENT TO COURT AND WAS AGREED THAT PHYSICAL DISIPLIN WAS NOT APPROPRIATE ANY LONGER, THAT'S WHEN THE SHIT HIT THE PROVERBIAL FAN AND OUR PARENTAL RIGHTS WENT OUT OF THE WINDOW.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISIPINE AND BEATING, THAT'S WHERE THE LINE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DRAWN, IT WENT TOO FAR.

AS FOR THE RETIRED V.E.T., THERE ARE TOO MANY THAT ARE ON THE STREET, THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD TO RESORT TO THAT, CONSIDERING WHAT THEY SURVIVED FOR OUR SAFETY, FREEDOM, AS WELL AS FOR SO MANY OTHER REASONS. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKED AFTER IN WHATEVER FORM THAT WAS NECESSARY UNTIL THEY DIED OF THEIR OWN CAUSE. BY GOING TO WAR, NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE V.E.T.'S REALIZED WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENDURE AS WELL AS HOW THEY WOULD BE COMING HOME. EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET READY, THERE ARE A LOT MORE V.E.T.'S COMING HOME, POSSABLY TO THIS RESULT. WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE WITH GRATITUDE THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 7:56 pm
This is a sad story. Where are the parents? They deserve jail time.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 9:29 pm
YES IT IS SAD ANITA, THE PARENTS TODAY ARE SO SCARED OF THEIR KIDS. THANKS TO THE LAW .THE LAW PUT IT IN THE KIDS HEAD TO SCREAM MURDER IF YOUR PARENTS YELL AT YOU, IF THEY HIT YOU,IF THEY DON'T LET YOU WATCH TV ALL NITE. CALL 911. & IF THEY SAY NO TO YOU! JUST CALL 911.WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE & YOUR PARENTS ARE THE BAD GUYS. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE KIDS GOING BUCK WILD. KIDS IN THE STREETS TILL 5 AM. KIDS LEAVING SCHOOL ,THE TEACHERS ARE SCARED OF THE KIDS.KIDS ON DRUGS .KIDS HAVING SEX AT THE AGE OF 13 YEARS. I WAS STILL PLAYING WITH DOLLS AT THAT AGE. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT A BOY WAS .FOR REAL .BECAUSE THEY WERE NO WHERE ON ANY PAGE OF MY LIFE AS A YOUNG CHILD. BOYS WERE NEVER DISCUSSED EVER. AND LOOK HOW THE GIRLS DRESS. ITS A SHAME. BOYS GOT THEIR PANTS HANGING DOWN TO THE GROUND & SHOWING THEIR NASY BUTT. I REMEBER THE MINI SCART & HOT PANTS .MY MOTHER SAID DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. WHEN I TOLD HER IT WAS THE COOLEST FASHION SHE SAT ME DOWN & SAID IT LOOKS LIKE HOOKIERS WOULD WHERE THAT .HAVE RESPECT FOR THE WAY YOU LOOK. DRESS LIKE THAT & YOU ARE SENDING A MESSAGE TO EVERY BOY THAT YOU ARE EASY. A REAL GRIL HAS CLASS AND DON'T EVER FORGET THAT. CARRY YOURSELF LIKE A FLOWER. BEAUTIFUL ,GRACEFUL. MAKE MEN KNOW YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND WILL THINK NO LESSER ABOUT WHO YOU ARE. ITS STARTS AT HOME THE FOUNDATION . WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR HOME ON SAND .IT WILL SURLY FALL. THE ROOT OF THE FAMILY STARTS AT THE FOUNDATION. IT STARTS AT HOME. WHEN YOU GIVE THAT RIGHT UP & MANY HAVE !NOW WE HAVE THE CHILDREN OF THE CORN. OH & YOU MUST PUT GOD IN THE PICTURE, AS JUSUS SAID LET THE CHILDREN COME TO ME. HE HAS TO BE PART OF THE PUZZLE . IF NOT THEN YOUR PUZZLE WILL NOT FIT RIGHT. ITS LIKE BAKING A CAKE .TAKE OUT THE BAKING POWER & SEE HOW HARD YOUR CAKE TURNS OUT. IT WILL FALL . YOU HAVE TO ADD GOD IN THE PICTURE & TO DO THIS YOU HAVE TO ADD GODS HOUSE .I CRY MANY DAYS WHEN I COULD NOT HANG IN THE SODA SHOPS. OR GO TO THE SHOWS. MY MOTHER WOULD SAY YOU LIVE UNDER MY ROOF MY RULS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. & I WAS 19 YEARS OLD. & STILL RESPECTED MY MOTHER RULES. & DID UNTILL THE DAY SHE PASS AWAY. TODAY KIDS KICK THE PARENTS OUT OF THE HOUSE. A LADY TOLD ME HER 16 YEAR OLD GOT A SPEEDING TICKET IN OHIO! I SAID WHAT! IN OHIO WHAT WAS HE DOING DRIVING IN OHIO? SHE STATED HE WANTED TO GO SEE A FRIEND SO HIM & A COUPLE OF HIS FRIENDS DROVE TO OHIO & HE WAS GOING 85 MILES IN A 35 MILE ZONE. SHE HAS TO GO BACK TO OHIO TO ANOTHER HEARING .HE HAS A FINE 2,000 DOLLER'S & HE CAN'T DRIVE FOR 7 MONTS .I SAID I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THE CAR IN THE FIRST PLACE .AND HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OK TO DRIVE BY HIMSELF & HIS SILLY FRIENDS TO OHIO TO VISIT A FRIEND. WHAT THE HELL WAS WRONG WITH HER! NOW ITS COSTING YOU A LOT OF MONEY. JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE SCARE TO SAY NO .HE WILL CALL 911 ON YOU. SO YOU LET A 16 YEAR OLD PUT HIS LIFE & DOOR KNOB FRIENDS IN A CAR NOT A GOOD MIX. I SAID TO HER I'M HAPPY THEIR IS A FINE TO PAY. BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BILL FOR A FURNAIL. I'M SO HAPPY I'M DONE RAISEING MY KIDS.BECAUSE I KNOW FOR SURE IF I HAD TO RAISE KIDS TODAY I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY.& THE DAY THE LAW TELL ME & REPORTS ME TO THE CYS SERVISES IS THE DAY I GIVE UP MY PARENTS RIGHT TO THE LAW. THE DAY MY KIDS CALL 911 IS THE DAY I CALL CYS ON THEM TO COME & PICK THEM UP. I'LL GIVE MY PARENTS RIGHTS UP TO THEM. THE DAY MY KIDS LOOSE RESPECT FOR ME IS THE DAY I SET THEM FREE. SENCE THAY THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL. FOR REAL .I DON'T BELIVE PLAYING GAMES WITH ANY KID. MY SON BARGAINS WITH HIS SON. & HES ONLY 5 YEARS OLD. I TOLD MY GSON WHEN YOU ARE IN MY HOUSE YOU DO AS I SAY. NO DEALS OR DEAL IN MY HOUSE ITS NOT MCDONALDS HAVE IT YOUR WAY. NO ! NO . RESPECT HERE . TUFF LOVE IS SAYING NO . REAL LOVE IS SAYING NO. LOVEING A CHILD IS NOT UPHOLDING HIM WHEN HE OR SHE IS WRONG. REAL LOVE IS TELLING THAT CHILD WHAT THEY ARE DOING WRONG. & NEVER LEAVE I LOVE YOU OUT. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO REFUSE TO HAVE CHILDREN. SHE WORKS WITH CHILDREN & THE CHILDREN PUT THE FEAR IN HER THEY ARE SO BAD. SHE DON'T EVEN WANT KIDS .SHE SAID I DON'T KNOW HOW PARENTS HANDLE WHEN THEIR KIDS GO BAD. ITS SO DEPRESSING. SHE FEELS ITS NOT WORTH THE TRY. I SAID CHILDREN ARE A BLESSING, A CHILDS LOVE IS THE BEST LOVE IN THE WORLD. BUT THEIR IS NO HURT IN THE WORLD OF A CHILD WHO HAS LOST HIS WAY .AND SOMETIMES THE THE PRICE IS DEATH. THAT IS THE WORSE HURT IN THE WORLD. SO IS TELLING A CHILD NO WORTH IT. I DO THINK SO. THIS IS A HOT TOPIC.

Saturday March 31, 2007, 9:40 pm
The parents were probably both working hard to make ends meet. The children probably did what they darn well wanted to regardless of what the parents said. If defied and the parents spanked them, those like yourself as well as the children would scream ABUSE! If the parents located their children and were scene dragging them back home fighting and screaming, again the parents would be pointed out as abusive. If these same parents recieved no outside help, were frustrated and despaired, and had no power to do anything to control these children, then you would blame them for being apathetic.

Again comments of blame continue. Did these same folks read through other's comments to learn different sides of the issue at hand? Or did they just stop long enough to say what they felt without thought? This is also part of the big picture, part of the problems in today's world.

Do this. Point your finger, anywhere, at me even. Look at your hand. With one finger pointing at me, how many fingers point back at yourself?

Saturday March 31, 2007, 9:43 pm
If that didn't do anything for those of you pointing a finger, go read the news topic I placed this morning. It is about parents of a wayward teen, parents who needed help. Go read what the court ordered as an intervention. Then ask yourself is it the parents fault, are they the only ones to blame?

Saturday March 31, 2007, 10:07 pm
My prayers go out to this veteran. He did not deserve this and I pray for a speedy recovery on his behalf. I hope some questions will be answered. Why is a veteran homeless? Most of all, the question of why these children acted this way. Some professional help from pur social service system is needed ASAP! DD

Saturday March 31, 2007, 11:10 pm
THE BELOW STUDING IS * YEARS OLD> CONSIDERING THE WARS WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SINCE< THE NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY MUCH HIGHER. ALSO NOTE THAT THESE STATS ONLY APPLY TO THOSE WITH VETERANS STATIS...MEANING THEY WERE ABLE TO SERVE OUT THEIR TOUR OF DUTY.

Although accurate numbers are impossible to come by -- no one keeps national records on homeless veterans -- the VA estimates that nearly 200,000 veterans are homeless on any given night. And nearly 400,000 experience homelessness over the course of a year. Conservatively, one out of every three homeless men who is sleeping in a doorway, alley or box in our cities and rural communities has put on a uniform and served this country. According to the National Survey of Homeless Assistance Providers and Clients (U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness and the Urban Institute, 1999), veterans account for 23% of all homeless people in America.

Sunday April 1, 2007, 3:18 am
i get what buzby was saying, and if you went to schools these days you would too, kids are way too getting away with everything and disrespectful these days and basically all the different influences in the world are too blame for it rather then just a parent, and yeah this violent behaviour's happening all over the world, in New Zealand the other year a kid-i think 14 years old- through a thick slab of concrete off a bridge over the motor way and it smashed through the wind screen of a car killing the driver, and other stuff happens everyday. I feel so sorry for that homeless person though, however thankfully many who are last in this world will be first in the coming day, so hopefully so it will be for him.

Sunday April 1, 2007, 6:42 am
Once again, a sick example of the moral direction of the Western society... I hope people would do something about this instead of simply blaming the parents, media etc. Arguing doesn't help; it's all about taking action.
I wonder if throwing these kids to jail really solves the problem...
I feel sorry for the victim - hopefully he gets better soon.

Sunday April 1, 2007, 7:01 am
Aside from the immediate problem here of children running wild & being abusive there is layer after layer of no notion of how to raise children in our society. I'm a strong advocate of having pareting courses being taught in our schools from kindergartden to senior year in high school as a requirement for graduation.

Almost all of us take from how we've been raised and mold/modify our experience into how we will raise our own. We take the good with the bad and along the way not really understanding why we apply any certain discipline/punishment, in other words there are no guidlines or a real common sense of direction in place. Seemingly many plant a seed, sprinkle a bit of water and say grow and children are often left with their own devices, judgement and internalize. The internalization of any negatives may never come out or it may simmer for years into what happened here with these three boys..............

I do have a momentary guideline of my own.........Pace thoughtfully, tie your hands into a knot behind your back, speak firmly but softly and explain with patience.......................

Think of tomorrow-
plant a seed
grow a forest
for Mother Nature
and her animals..............

Sunday April 1, 2007, 8:20 pm
This is so sad. I can't believe how corrupt this world is. It's becoming worse and worse everyday and the worst part is--it's hopeless. Is there any shred of morality left in this country, in this world?

Sunday April 1, 2007, 11:05 pm
Simply no need for this! Where were the parents when they should have been teaching their children right from wrong, rerspect and do unto others as you would want done unto you? Obviously they didn't care about the way their kids turned out though it is a reflection on them and a very poor one in this case. These parents never should have been allowed to mate nor breed! Respect is a word that is no longer in circulation. Today, murder, anger and all forms of abuse should be taken off the tube as well as removed from the silver screen! This is where too many gain their violent ways of acting out the "acting" of actors.

Friday April 6, 2007, 9:14 pm
They Need To Take HRS Out Of The Way Of Parents Punishing Their Children. I Don't Have A Gauge On My Wrist If I Have To Spank My Child . Not That I Like To , But I Got A Lot Of Spankings And Lived . I Respect My Elders. Corpral Punishment Should Be Put Back In The Schools & Home . They Shouldn't Get A Vacation For Being Bad, NO Teachers & NO Parents At Home Look What They Get Into .What I Won't To Know Is How Many Children Will be Lost To Drugs , Drinking , Gangs Shootings , Stabbings Death ,Sucide & Last But Not Lest To HRS . Before The State Will Open Their Eyes And See That Their Idea Is Not Working .If You Whip Me I Call HRS , Some Of Them Hurt Theirselves And Blame The Parents To Get Away From Their Parents Sharp Tounges & Eyes . I Say Bring Corpral Punishment Back To The Home & School !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!