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Egypt's Women Urge MPs Not to Pass Early Marriage, Sex-After-Death Laws: Report

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referring to two laws: one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14 and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.

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Jay S (116)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 9:44 am
And Obama, Clinton and NATO countries fell for this ruse. All of the so-called 'Arab Spring' 'revolutions' have been backed by the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda and Saudi Arabia - none of whom could ever be accused of being progressive, scientific or modern. They are all Orthodox Muslims who want Sharia law enforced in the whole world, starting in all Muslim occupied lands. These same loonies are now behind the 'revolution' in Syria that Obama is still backing, despite what has happened in the other Arab Spring routs. Whose side is he really on? He got the Muslim Brotherhood 1.5billion so their popularity would be shored up.

The disturbing article states: 'Many members of the newly-elected, and majority Islamist parliament, have been accused of launching attacks against women’s rights in the country.

'They wish to cancel many, if not most, of the laws that promote women’s rights, most notably a law that allows a wife to obtain a divorce without obstructions from her partner. The implementation of the Islamic right to divorce law, also known as the Khula, ended years of hardship and legal battles women would have to endure when trying to obtain a divorce.

'Egyptian law grants men the right to terminate a marriage, but grants women the opportunity to end an unhappy or abusive marriages without the obstruction of their partner. Prior to the implementation of the Khula over a decade ago, it could take 10 to 15 years for a woman to be granted a divorce by the courts.

'Islamist members of Egyptian parliament, however, accuse these laws of “aiming to destroy families”'.

Since this 'revolution' the original Egyptians, the Coptic Christians who were invaded, conquered and oppressed by Islam for centuries now, are being ethnically cleansed, like in many Muslim dominated lands right now, driven out of their homes/shops, their churches destroyed (which is also happening across the Muslim ruled world) and they're being beaten and murdered, and Obama says nothing!

Christian leaders from the Middle East came to meet with Obama to beg him to help them and he refused to even meet them, at the advice of his Muslim Brotherhood 'advisors'. Whose side is he really on? And the mainstream media, including Care2 et al, mentions not a word of any of this.


Carola May (20)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 10:30 am
We will be seeing more of this across the Islamic majority countries as Orthodox Islam's revival continues to grow and threaten the peace and freedom of the whole world. Obama's support for this Islamist take-over is disturbing. Why isn't he speaking out to defend the minorities being persecuted by these new Islamist rulers? Whose side is he on. You've hit it spot on, Rob and Jay.

Thank you Tommy for sharing this.

Michela M (3964)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 10:33 am

Gene Jacobson (290)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 11:23 am
Noted. And, I'm sorry to say, that anyone who didn't see this coming during the Arab spring must have been dozing. Yes, it is good oppressive dictators are gone, but no one ever asked "what happens next"? The Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda or similar groups dedicated to the Islamic avowed cause of converting the world, by force, if necessary to Islam and Sharia. That IS their goal. Ignore it, and them, at your own freedom's peril. This is the single greatest threat to world peace we face in this century. We have plenty of other challenges and some of those may halt this in its tracks but make no mistake, Islam intends to rule the world. And the cost is irrelevant. To them. This ridiculous example, marriage at 14 and necrophilia, is only the beginning.

Gillian M (218)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 11:23 am
Edward Augustus Freeman:
”[Islam] is essentially an obstructive, intolerant system… It has consecrated despotism; it has consecrated polygamy; it has consecrated slavery. It has declared war against every other creed; it has claimed to be at least dominant in every land… When it ceases to have an enemy to contend against, it sinks into sluggish stupidity and into a barbarism far viler… It must have an enemy; if cut off…from conflict with the infidel, it finds its substitute in sectarian hatred of brother Moslems…”

Beatrice B (112)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 12:10 pm

Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami, has just made necrophilia halal.Zemzami justifies his ruling by means of analogy: Since a good Muslim couple will meet again in Heaven, and since death does not alter the marital contract (in his opinion) it is not a hindrance to the husband’s desire to have sexual intercourse with the corpse of his (freshly) deceased wife"

Beatrice B (112)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 12:12 pm

Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami, has just made necrophilia halal.Zemzami justifies his ruling by means of analogy: Since a good Muslim couple will meet again in Heaven, and since death does not alter the marital contract (in his opinion) it is not a hindrance to the husband’s desire to have sexual intercourse with the corpse of his (freshly) deceased wife"

pam w (139)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 5:26 pm
I commented on this thread (duplicated on Care2) by saying I don't understand the motive behind having sex with a corpse! Is it a "bye, bye Baby" HUMPING? Is it that they're so accustomed to having sex with children that they're not used to the healthy response of an adult woman?


Perhaps the Islamofans would care to defend both the sex with small children and dead body laws? (Somehow, I don't expect to see them comment.....)

monica r (41)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 8:35 pm
That is disgusting. Who do they think they are, Jeffrey Dahmer or something, having sex after someone is dead?

How could you stand over your wife, supposedly bereaved, and actually be able to be aroused sexually by her dead body??? Oh, EEEWWWW!

And don't even get me started on child marriage. I teach 12-14 year olds. No child that age should be getting married.

Stan B (123)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 8:40 pm
Only totally sick, depraved imbeciles could come up with this one.

Jay S (116)
Thursday April 26, 2012, 11:51 pm
Reading one of the hadiths, there was a story of Mohammed actually sleeping with a dead woman (presumably for sex). He claimed it was to facilitate her entry into Islamic paradise, but we can't remember the verses, can anyone else? This would give the basis for this barbaric practice - Mohammed did it!

pam w (139)
Friday April 27, 2012, 12:04 am
Well, you KNOW the fans of Islam will deny this....but.....

Tommy S (11)
Friday April 27, 2012, 12:25 am
@Pam W
you forgot the " i "


Jennifer Ward (40)
Friday April 27, 2012, 3:31 am
Holy cadavar! Is this for real?

Gillian M (218)
Friday April 27, 2012, 8:23 am
I've come up with this

This is from a book called "Kanz Al Umal" (The Treasure of the Workers), in the chapter of "The issues of women", authored by Ali Ibn Husam Aldin, commonly known as Al-Mutaki Al-Hindi. He based his book on the hadiths and sayings listed in "Al-Jami Al-Saghir," written by Jalal ul-Din Al-Suyuti.

Narrated by Ibn Abbas:

"I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib"… The prophet was referring to Fatima , the mother of Ali.

The Arabic scholar Demetrius explains : "The Arabic word used here for "slept" is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "lay down to have sex." Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a "mother of the believers." This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since Muslims believed that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. "Reduce the pressure" here means that the torment won't be as much because she is now a "mother of the believers" after Muhammad slept with her and "consummated" the union." ]


pam w (139)
Friday April 27, 2012, 8:32 am
(Thanks, Tommy!) In a related thread......what about this young woman? is SHE an "Islamophobe," as the rest of us are so often labeled?

Just another reflection of the hatred and denial of our status as human beings.

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday April 27, 2012, 10:58 am
This barbaric ruling is degrading MEN more than women. After all, the women in question is already dead, and her a man is expected to still be preoccupied with sex, rather than the feeling of a great tragedy and a loss.

May be because men in modern culture have only one wife, they feel the loss of their beloved ones sharper!

May be when a pack of wifes walks around, one doesn't need to distract himself from pleasures of this world?


Cousin It Addams (8)
Friday April 27, 2012, 2:01 pm
and in my opinion, may be that if i was one of those other wives i'd be like, "you put that where?" and he wouldn't be gettin' any after that.

oh but wait then he could just beat the shiite out of me and rape me, which is of course totally fine for him to do according to islam.

you want a war on women look in islamic countries.

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Saturday April 28, 2012, 12:46 am

Hilary S (65)
Saturday April 28, 2012, 4:45 am
necrophilia? paedophilia? what will they condone next - bestiality perhaps?
as for the idea that it's ok for a woman to have sex with her dead husband - my imagination is failing me here.

monica r (41)
Saturday April 28, 2012, 7:36 pm

After sex with an animal, it must be slaughtered and burned, unless it's an edible animal (sheep, goat, cow, camel, etc) in which case the meat can be sold. but not in your own village, however the next village down the road is okay.

What can you say about people who obsess about removing "every trace of urine" after relieving themselves, yet camel urine as a cure all (a cup a day keeps the doctor away!) is selling like hotcakes? You couldn't make this stuff up.

pam w (139)
Saturday April 28, 2012, 7:53 pm
WAIT! WAIT A GOL=DURNED MINUTE! Are you actually telling us there are RULES for the disposition of an animal after you've had sex with it?

Is there no END to this? Muslims actually spent time thinking about it? WHO wrote this?
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