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Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?


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JL
- 621 days ago - thenation.com
Despite the grassroots façade, there is much evidence to suggest that corporations that profit from unregulated gun use are propping up the NRA's activities, much like how the tobacco lobby secretly funded "Smokers Rights'" fronts & libertarian anti-tax



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JL A. (275)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 12:18 pm
Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?
Lee Fang on December 14, 2012 - 7:40 PM ET

Over the last four years, Congress and the Obama administration have only enacted laws that have deregulated gun use in America. It’s no secret why. As pundits love to note, the gun lobby is incredibly influential. But as we consider the potential for reform in the wake of the tragedy today, one of the first questions we should ask this time is: who does the gun lobby really represent?

The National Rifle Association portrays itself as an organization that represents “4 million members” who simply love the Second Amendment. The truth is much more murky.

In reality, the NRA is composed of half a dozen legal entities; some designed to run undisclosed attack ads in political campaigns, others to lobby and collect tens of millions in undisclosed, tax-deductible sums. This power has only been enhanced in the era of Citizens United, with large GOP donors in the last election reportedly funneling money to the NRA simply to use the group as a brand to pummel Democrats with nasty ads. (As The Huffington Post’s Peter Stone reported, even the Koch network now provides an undisclosed amount to the NRA.)

Despite the grassroots façade, there is much evidence to suggest that corporations that profit from unregulated gun use are propping up the NRA’s activities, much like how the tobacco lobby secretly funded “Smokers Rights’” fronts and libertarian anti-tax groups, or how polluters currently finance much of the climate change skepticism movement.

In a “special thanks” to their donors, the National Rifle Association Foundation lists Bushmaster Firearms Inc., the company that makes the assault rifle reportedly found with the shooter responsible for the mass murder today in Newtown, Connecticut. How much Bushmaster Firearms Inc. (a firm now known as Windham) contributes is left unsaid.

The Violence Policy Center has estimated that since 2005, gun manufacturers have contributed up to $38.9 million to the NRA. Those numbers, however, are based on publicly listed “sponsorship” levels on NRA fundraising pamphlets. The real figures could be much bigger. Like Crossroads GPS or Americans for Prosperity, or the Sierra Club for that matter, the NRA does not disclose any donor information even though it spends millions on federal elections.

And like other industry fronts, the NRA is quick to conceal its pro–gun industry policy positions as ideological commitments.

Take, for example, “The NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund.” It’s a pro–gun rights legal fund “involved in court cases establishing legal precedents in favor of gun owners.”

And who helps pick which impact-litigation cases the NRA will become involved with? Folks like James W. Porter II, a board member of the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund, who doubles as an attorney whose private firm specializes in “areas of products liability defense of firearms manufacturers.” His last client, according to a search of the federal court docket, was Smith & Wesson Corporation.

Is the NRA working for casual gun-owners, many of whom, according to polling, support tougher restrictions on gun ownership— or is the NRA serving the gunmaker lobby— which is purely interested in policies that will promote greater gun sales and more profits? Any gun control policy debate should begin with this question.
 

John B. (215)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 1:55 pm
Thanks J.L. for the post. The NRA first and foremost represents the weapons manufacturing industry. The term "gun" when used should be changed to "weapon" : so the phrase would read "weapon lobby" and "weapons regulation" which has a much more offensive and deadly connotation. Read and noted.
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 2:30 pm
You are welcome John. The terminology distinction you make is important and may well determine how well efforts to address the problem succeed. You cannot currently send a star to John because you have done so within the last week.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 2:32 pm
So true John B
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 2:44 pm
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Micheael Kirkbym (85)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 3:40 pm
Things that just make you go hmmm! I would suppose that since firearms are such a large business in the States it would also stand to reason that it influences politics also and in turn the NRA. Maybe they are a front and maybe they aren't. Certainly the right to bear arms is a constitutional right but do you really need all those weapons for self defense; let alone an automatic weapon? Most of the illegal weapons that have shown up in Canada have come from gun shops in America. They are purchased in bulk and transported up the major highways. Of course in Ontario most of them come through a certain First Nations Reserve. The government knows this. First Nation knows they know but First Nation/Federal Government interaction is a hot potato so the illegal weapons trade is overlooked. If First Nations want to control their destiny then they need to step up to the plate and start policing this illegal activity. That's another hot potato for a future discussion.
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 4:26 pm
Thanks for sharing a north of the border perspective with us Michael. You cannot currently send a star to Michael because you have done so within the last week.
 

jan b. (3)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 2:15 am
Think the stats show that guns are more often used for criminal acts than they actually protected anyone. Common sense says the manufacturers and gun shops promote the sale and prestige of owning guns .
It should not be a recreational sport.....it ain't football.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 2:03 pm
so someone breaks into your house, and you have a gun collection. Given that you only have two hands, which gun will you choose and use to blow them away, given that the prowler/psychopath isnt standing right in front of your gun cabinet? Maybe best to wire the entire house, press a button and blow every room in the house, the prowler and perhaps yourself up. That will teach em a lesson!
 

Diane O. (149)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 3:38 pm
If someone breaks into MY home, I will pull out my gun and protect not only myself but my children and grandchildren. My home is mine. Any uninvited intruder entering my home is breaking the law and puts me and my family at risk of being murdered because they either want to rob me of what is mine and not theirs or their mental state is such that they simply want to stab, mutilate or torture innocent people. A gun in my home is for protection and I will use it.

Many of you are missing the point.
 

Diane O. (149)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 3:44 pm
The law in our country is on the side of the victim whose home is being broken into. If this is happening to anyone, call 911 and tell them that you have a gun and will use it to defend and protect your loved ones.

Do the liberals actually believe that the victim can actually "talk some sense" into the criminal and refrain from using a gun? Many intruders are horrendous sex offenders needing a "fix" or are tanked on drugs and alcohol and aren't on the planet mentally. We have a right to protect ourselves and our families from the mentally deranged and the drug induced criminals who want to harm us.

America.....have a gun in your home to protect yourselves. Because if you don't, you will be a statistic, in a box, being buried in a cemetary all because you "didn't want to hurt a raging maniac." I guess the liberals believe that a "group hug" is the answer when someone is pointing a gun to your head.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 4:08 pm
It's clear the NRA represents gun manufacturers, NOT owners. My husband signed up as a member during the Bush years, and after a few months and many mailings from the NRA, along with robo-calls....he decided they were greedy, soulless and heartless. He's no longer a member. Over 80% of the members have checked the box for stricter gun laws, but the NRA doesn't care. They just want more money.
Tell your Congress critters you want the Assault Weapons Ban reinstated and gun shows outlawed.
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 6:07 pm
In most states if no one is being threatened with violence, even if an intruder is in your house, you are guilty of first degree murder if you shoot them dead and may get the death penalty (if the state has it). Also, if there are others with you, the data indicates the odds are the homeowner will injure one of the others more often than the intruder so many parents and grandparents learn the hard way when they have killed their child or grandchild.

You are right Lois--the reinstatement of AWB is in order. You cannot currently send a star to Lois because you have done so within the last week.
 

Klaus Peters (11)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 7:02 pm
Sure, the gun lobbies control the NRA, and more innocent peopole will be killed in the USA, very sad situation.
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 7:10 pm
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Robert O. (12)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 7:35 pm
It can be hard to say since big money pours in from both sides but my guess is on the manufacturers that turn out those little killing machines by the millions.
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 7:46 pm
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Judy C. (106)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 8:04 pm
This relationship between arms manufacturers and their shills and toadies is important to recognize. These weapons producers don't even have to pay for advertisements! More circulating guns, more crimes, more crimes, greater perceived need to arm oneself, and on and on....
 

Kathy B. (98)
Monday December 17, 2012, 8:07 am
The more I read about the NRA, the more I am convinced they should be considered a terrorist organization.
 

Judy C. (106)
Monday December 17, 2012, 6:48 pm
Good point, Kathy.
 

JL A. (275)
Monday December 17, 2012, 6:56 pm
The definition "terrorist organization" includes "a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in sub-clauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv)." 8 U.S.C. § 1182; Khan v. Holder, 2009 U.S. App. LEXIS 20134 (9th Cir. Sept. 9, 2009)

The statute defines engag[ing] in terrorist activity to include "solicit[ing] funds or other things of value for a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization." 8 U.S.C. § 1182; Khan v. Holder, 2009 U.S. App. LEXIS 20134 (9th Cir. Sept. 9, 2009)

United States Law Code – the law that governs the entire country – contains a definition of terrorism embedded in its requirement that Annual Country reports on Terrorism be submitted by the Secretary of State to Congress every year. (From U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)

(d) Definitions
As used in this section—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than 1 country;
(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;
(3) the term “terrorist group” means any group, or which has significant subgroups which practice, international terrorism;
(4) the terms “territory” and “territory of the country” mean the land, waters, and airspace of the country; and
(5) the terms “terrorist sanctuary” and “sanctuary” mean an area in the territory of the country—
(A) that is used by a terrorist or terrorist organization—
(i) to carry out terrorist activities, including training, fundraising, financing, and recruitment; or
(ii) as a transit point; and
(B) the government of which expressly consents to, or with knowledge, allows, tolerates, or disregards such use of its territory and is not subject to a determination under—
(i) section 2405(j)(1)(A) of the Appendix to title 50;
(ii) section 2371 (a) of this title; or
(iii) section 2780 (d) of this title.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 11:31 pm
The above NONSENSE POST by Jiu Shw who has ZERO friends, looks SUSPICIOUSLY like one of those stinking, intrusive ADS - or like this "person" WANTS to try to put in an ad. I have FLAGGED IT AS INAPPROPRIATE. Also I flagged the "person". It just doesn't look real.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 11:52 pm
...As The Huffington Post’s Peter Stone reported, even the Koch network now provides an undisclosed amount to the NRA...
Despite the grassroots façade, there is much evidence to suggest that corporations that profit from unregulated gun use are propping up the NRA’s activities, much like how the tobacco lobby secretly funded “Smokers Rights’” fronts and libertarian anti-tax groups, or how polluters currently finance much of the climate change skepticism movement.
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THIS SHOULD BE WIDELY SPREAD AND KNOWN BY EVERYONE. I am putting it into the messages I write to Public Officials.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/6-extreme-policies-that-prove-the-nra-is-out-of-step-with-america.html#ixzz2FZm5mhE5

The NRA, in order to MAKE MONEY, ENCOURAGES people to arm themselves because "Obama is going to take away your guns" - which is NONSENSE - but it SURE HELPS AUTOMATIC WEAPONS SALES.
This is the equivalent to TREASON...
It is PURELY AN ADVERTISING GIMMICK TO MAKE HUGE PROFIT$$$$$...

On change.org there are about 300! Petitions for Gun Control that you can sign. Over 40 pages of Petitions!!!
There are also Petitions to "Put prayer back in the public schools, THAT'S why this happened, no prayers!"; and Petitions to arm teachers.... yeah, right, great idea...
So, just watch what you sign, if you go to change.org...

The Mother Jones site has, as far as I have seen, the BEST reporting and most up-to-date...
 

JL A. (275)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 8:37 am
Excellent points BMutiny and thanks for sharing your research on petitions and accurate information and reporting on this significant public health issue.
 

Debra B. (24)
Friday December 21, 2012, 9:14 am
Well. ...
 
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