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For Our Next Trick, We Will Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear


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JL
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The world's first air capture plant would pull CO2 directly from the sky.



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JL A. (275)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:02 am

For Our Next Trick, We Will Make Carbon Dioxide Disappear
The world’s first air capture plant would pull CO2 directly from the sky.
By Lawrence Karol
January 10, 2013
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A rendering of the proposed carbon capture system. (Courtesy Carbon Engineering)

Just last month, The New York Times reported that global emissions of carbon dioxide reached a record high in 2011 and were likely to take another jump in 2012. “The latest indication,” they noted, “that efforts to limit such emissions are failing.”

So if we’re having trouble limiting emissions, why not try and capture them?

That’s the goal of a number of new companies, including Carbon Engineering (CE), a Canadian firm founded in 2009 with funds from investors like Bill Gates. The company hopes to “bring industrial-scale air capture to market, by designing and building the world’s first air capture plant” that would remove carbon dioxide directly from the sky.

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“I got started on direct air capture as a bit of a skeptic,” CE President Dr. David Keith told TakePart. Keith, who is also a professor at Harvard, added: “There were divergent claims about its feasibility and cost and I thought that doing some technology policy analysis will be helpful.”

“Essentially we started out as a bounding analysis trying to understand the costs of the lowest risk system using conventional technology,” he said. “At some point we stumbled on something that seemed important and interested investors, which lead me to form the company.”

The company's website explains that their “low technical-risk strategy would put CE’s air capture system on a direct path among competitors to commercialization and deployment at an industrial scale.”

Asked to elaborate, Geoff Holmes, CE’s Research Scientist explained: “Several of our competitors in the air capture field are pursuing designs that are based on novel materials or processes that have not been used before at industrial scale. If some of these pay out, they could in the long run deliver systems that have lower energy requirements and costs than what we are working on right now.”

“However, one of our main strategic goals as a company is to get an air capture system developed and running in the real world as soon as possible. We believe this is crucial to demonstrate the credibility of the concept all together, and to build the kind of industry support and interest that can then be leveraged to drive costs down and innovate further improvements or next-generation systems.”
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In a recent New York Times article, Dr. Keith explained that the firm’s pilot plant “will test the equipment at the scale the vendors tell us they need to provide performance guarantees for a full commercial plant.”

Holmes expanded on this notion for TakePart. “In order to get investor funding for the full-scale systems we wish to build, we need to demonstrate the technology with a small system that risks relatively little capital investment.”

“Also, we need the backing—or performance guarantees—from the vendors that supply the main pieces of equipment that our system will use. In order to get that backing, we need to use scaled-down vendor equipment in our pilot plant so that the vendors can see it work and can gather data to properly guarantee the components at large scale.”

And The Times article noted the geographic flexibility of direct air capture. They quoted Timothy A. Fox, head of energy and environment at London’s Institution of Mechanical Engineers as stating, “It doesn’t matter where you take the carbon dioxide out. You could have air capture machines in the Australian desert to account for New York City car emissions.”

Now that should certainly capture the attention and imagination of a lot of people.
 

Dave C. (214)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:10 am
while capturing CO2 (and doing something with it to keep it out of the atmosphere) is a great idea I still wonder, wouldn't maintaining forests and planting trees be the same......there must be some time differences, but I have heard about this for years...years we could have been planting trees and capturing CO2 and we still don't have this in mass production yet....
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 12:22 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Dave because you have done so within the last week.
 

Bob P. (426)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 1:01 pm
thanks
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 1:11 pm
You're welcome Bob.
 

Roger Garin-michaud (61)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:02 pm
noted, thanks !
 

JL A. (275)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:05 pm
You are welcome Roger!
 

Terry V. (30)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:07 pm
Whatever it takes..........


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JL A. (275)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:11 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Terry because you have done so within the last week.
 

John B. (215)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:51 pm
Although this particular system will be experimental to see how using today's technology and equipment can be put to use to capture carbon now is important. The main object is to prove that it can be done. I find that being able to put such a system in places, like the middle of the dessert to capture carbon that is produced hundreds if not thousand of miles away, where planting trees (which is also very important) is impractical very promising. Read and noted. Thanks J.L. for posting this here on C2NN.
 

John B. (215)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:55 pm
Sorry...that should read "carbon dioxide" not "carbon".
 

mitchell dawes (23)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 7:21 pm
Great idea! Hope it works...
 

Robert O. (12)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 9:33 pm
Wouldn't I like to see that happen. Hope springs eternal. Thasks J.L. A.
 

Heidi Aubrey (16)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:31 pm
Great idea except for one small but extremely important detail..............................How are they getting it out of the atmosphere? Most current models simply pump it into the ground. A very tempory effect. If it reacts the CO2, what is the reaction(a chemical formula showing the reaction elements and final state of resultant matter-gas, liquid, solid. Law of Thermodynamics-all matter cannot be destroyed(ever), it only changes form(reaacts with something else or changes in state(gas, liquid, solid )?

There are many possiblites for reaction elements. Often the reaction would produce something equal or worse than CO2. One possibility would result in chlorox type products which would either go back into the atmosphere, as a gas, where it would rain down or simply dumped into the ocean, as a liquid, which has suffered too much insult as is.
 

Shalvah Landy (0)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 2:06 am
As Heidi commented before me, what are they going to do with the captured CO2?
 

Tanya W. (46)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 2:22 am
I hope an answer is on the horizon soon!! It is in all our best interests to find one.... till then lets embrace solar and wind energy. Solar is the best thing I have done for the planet!!
 

JL A. (275)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 1:37 pm
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Natalie V. (27)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 3:05 pm
noted
 

Frans Badenhorst (551)
Monday January 21, 2013, 2:52 am
mmmmm I don't know if this is all good hey?....trees really NEED carbon dioxide....... if we could rather extract the nasty carbon monoxides???
 

JL A. (275)
Monday January 21, 2013, 8:12 am
Good point Frans. You cannot currently send a star to Frans because you have done so within the last week.
 
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