Monday January 21, 2013, 10:22 am

Why Are These Idiots Harassing The Parents Of Sandy Hook Victims?
I honestly can't believe how widespread the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory is. One particular crackpot video has been viewed over 10 million times, and more theorists are cropping up every day. I really like how this video both completely refutes the insubstantial conspiracy speculation and examines why people might develop theories like this. I makes me sad to see something as crazy as a Sandy Hook conspiracy get this far.
Rollie Williams

0:41 - Great point about the way conspiracy theory videos get credibility.
1:03 - The motivation of the conspiracy theorists.
1:42 - Debunking the idea of a second shooter.
3:23 - Why the weapons were all accounted for.
5:09 - The allegedly lying father.
6:40 - The craziest part of the conspiracy theory (switching the daughter) debunked.
8:25 - A complete breakdown of conspiracy theories in general.


ORIGINAL: By "The David Pakman Show."

Monday January 21, 2013, 2:29 pm
Sick, why don't they get a life

Monday January 21, 2013, 2:53 pm
Sooner or later you're going to have to re-evaluate the validity of the subsequently standardised mainstream media reportage.The first news reports on the SandyHook shootings all told of a number of gunmen-possibly 3 or maybe 4 involved-two of whom could have been the suspects running through the woods wearing camouflage trousers and the man apprehended and cuffed just outside the main school building.Very soon after the original reports we then get a standard revised version through all the mainstream media outlets all blaming the entire massacre on Lanza who is found apparently having committed suicide in the school.
Watched from over here in the UK it is quite an extraordinary spectacle watching the speed with which the media all conformed to a standard and rather implausible official version of events which is then followed up without pause with a mad rush for legislation to change the U.S. gun laws.
Sadly it seems as if many Americans have allowed the shock of the massacre to cloud the collective judgement of a nation that values it's constitution as a guarantee against the abuse of power by the executive.
No matter how many laws are passed in response to the shootings you should remember that the criminal underworld is no respecter of the law-and law-abiding citizens will be no safer for tighter gun-laws.
You should remember that the right to bear arms is as much for the defense of the people against tyrrany as against outlaws.
As we in Britain now realise in the wake of the Dunblane shootings in Scotland-knee-jerk gun prohibition laws ultimately render the law-abiding more vulnerable than ever,whilst the criminal-class and the state authorities have in the meantime been arming themselves.
Don't make the same mistake that the Germans made when the nazis banned private gun ownership.
FEMA has already rebuilt the internment camps built in W.W.2 and they now have facilities for the incarceration 0f 50 million Americans-the agenda behind that is quite capable of orchestrating a shooting that is then used to justify a change to the gun laws.
Problem-Reaction-Solution
Simply questioning the standard line should not be dismissed as 'conspiracy-theory'.
Why are Americans not demanding an explanation for why normal police procedure was not followed when the gun found in the car that Lanza supposedly drove to SandyHook school in was handled by officers with no regard for forensic protocol?
Too many unanswered questions .
The lone-killer story looks ever more improbable whilst the U.S. administration is making a full frontal attack on all of your basic right to defend your freedom and lives.
And if you think that is an exaggeration- mental-health checks on all gun-owners will immediately lead to a data-base of gun ownership which will make it that much easier for the government to come and collect your weapons in the future.
The possibilty that you MIGHT have a weapon to defend yourselves is a great deterrant against would-be armed fascists and criminals alike.

Monday January 21, 2013, 3:24 pm
Like the story title had me remember, I really feel for the parents of the children who have to deal with all this in addition to the loss of their children and would think caring people would take them into consideration.

Monday January 21, 2013, 5:14 pm
The title says it all, IDIOTS= sick demented entities

Monday January 21, 2013, 5:27 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Terry because you have done so within the last week.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 11:48 am
This is bullsh@t! Leave these people alone! The families that lost their loved ones and right after it happened, going through shock, numbness, disbelief, and the horror of knowing your child was never going to go home. Can't imagine!!! The worse thing a parent would have to go through. It is probably hard for them to not hear about stuff like this even if it's a little bit of crap made of BS! I am horrified that these "conspiracy theories" are talked about. If these idiots lost a loved one by homicide, one of their children, then they may be a little compassionate and then maybe they would shut the F up!
I feel horrible for the parents and all family and friends that lost a loved one on that day. And the cops and medical personal that had to see the carnage and have to live with what they saw.
It's done! Their dead! Leave the families alone!

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 12:07 pm
Unfeeling, uncaring, mean spirited, heartless fools!

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 12:57 pm
"The possibilty that you MIGHT have a weapon to defend yourselves is a great deterrant against would-be armed fascists and criminals alike"

Straighten your tinfoil hat, your logic is as bad as your spelling. Even in the US, the idea that the people could or would rise up in arms against a "fascist" takeover is a fantasy which no-one seriously planning a coup d'etat would waste a minute worrying about. In the first place, even in the US the guns in private hands are a peashooter against the might of the armed forces. (The last group that tried to defy the US state by force of arms was in Waco.) In the second place, whatever form this imaginary coup took, there'd surely be as many gun nuts for it as against it. Remember, the last time the NRA took action against the state was the rent-a-mob that stopped the Florida recount... defending Americans' democratic right to have their President chosen by the Supreme Court rather than by popular vote.

As for defense against criminals, there is more criminal violence against home owners in armed America than in disarmed Britain. Enough said.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 1:15 pm
Noted. Thanks J.L. A.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 1:47 pm
Let's not feed the troll. Thank you.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 1:48 pm
Idiots harassing mourners . . . why?

Could it be another perverted desire-to-control thing?

Look at all the madWoMen demonstrating outside of Planned Parenthood - they don't give a purple poop about the welfare of the babies, if they did they would welcome all the surrounding support a woman TRYING to conceive and carry her baby to term is offered by the clinics.

AND they would support the woman who already has more children than she can care for, or the child whose pregnancy follows a horrendous rape.

So no, they are not trying to make any baby's life better.
They are trying to make women's lives worse, and they do not even stop at murder.

Another demonstrably subnormal thinking group, aka idiots, who love to control by torture are the Westboro Church people.

They are actually such wimps, the only way they know they are alive is by hurting somebody else unbearably.

That's no excuse, but it might be a reason.

There is also no excuse for allowing people to hurt others for the fun of it in the name of free speech.
That is not freedom, it is license.

At least the first two of the Constituional Rights have been distorted into Unrecht.
Coupled with the fact that you don't apparently have a constitutional right to vote, one wonders from the outside why the Constitution is so popular.
"Better the devil you know . . ." ?

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 1:58 pm
Thanks JL. Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. As if there isn't all sorts of mayhem and confusion even among the police let alone bystanders or victims or reporters about who is who and who did what etc., right at the very time of the incidents.. People are human and can get all hyped up and do make mistakes both in conclusions and what they report.
As Anthony and many Americans say as well, the idea that 'the gov't.' is going to make some mass roundup or confiscation of guns or people in the U.S. is nuts. You don't think cops or the military have families (who are all part of 'the people') of their own? As well, as if all the vast weaponry of the armed forces could be stopped by a bunch of disorganized individuals with peashooters in comparison. It's like some badddd.movie script. The day that the gov't. is changed by American citizens using force will never come. Change it in other ways.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 3:29 pm
All who thanked me, you are welcome. Stars sent where I can. Kenneth, thanks for reminding me that a couple of State Supreme Courts (OR is one) have recently found the need for guidelines for police to use when collecting and using eye witness testimonies given the very high factual error rates.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 3:52 pm
The simple answer, as to why these 'idiots' are harassing the parents of Sandy Hook victims, in simple terms is,
THEY ARE IDIOTS.

The underlying reason is, _power & control_.
They are insecure in thier own lives, and the 'gun' is a symbol of power. They feel larger than life, with one in their hands. Without it, they have no physical support system to lean on. Lastly, they have an agenda, the agenda being their assumed right to do what they, when they want, without the consideration of those they affect.
That's what this 'gun' business is all about. It has absolutely, nothing to do with the second amendment, which could never have been written, as stated, under the current circumstances.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 5:20 pm
I guess some people will sink to any depths to justify their gun nutship.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 5:20 pm
...or gun ownership.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 5:26 pm
Sick, sick people indeed.
Leave these people alone to morn their children.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 5:56 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Ann because you have done so within the last week.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 7:21 pm
Too bizarre to even sound logical after way too many beers.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 7:42 pm
It's all about scaring people who already own a gun, and are responsible, decent people, who just feel the need to make themselves feel safe.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 8:34 pm
I would like to respond to Faith's rhetoric concerning pro-life groups. Almost all Christian churches have community outreach programs that help families in need. You should do some research before you post hateful nonsense.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 9:01 pm
Total nuts.

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 9:56 pm
Bloody idiots

Tuesday January 22, 2013, 10:06 pm
You cannot currently send a star to David because you have done so within the last week.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:18 am
"As Anthony and many Americans say as well, the idea that 'the gov't.' is going to make some mass roundup or confiscation of guns or people in the U.S. is nuts."

The last President who did major damage to US freedom was George W, and while he was taking away habeas corpus, privacy and freedom of assembly he was relaxing gun laws, so the NRA didn't say a word. The whole guns-equals-freedom fantasy is America's unique opium of the people.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:21 am
These conspiracy theorists are so blinded by their hatred and paranoia and obviously have way too much time on their hands (and small brains in their heads).

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 2:22 am
so it was lee harvey oswald after all !

those conspiracy theories should all be dismissed because the honest government tells you the truth and nothing but the truth and have the self acclaimed licence to print as much truth as they wish. an that truth is already taking you for an unimaginal ride!
there is a joke in burma; that tells tourists not to steal anything as long as they are in the country because the government there does not tolerate any competition, and with well over 10 million views ...

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 4:34 am

Noted.....I'm lost for words..

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 5:57 am
ignorant idiots!! let's ignore them and not give them the pleasure of reading their insane accusations.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 6:28 am
Nice use of tongue in cheek to make a point Robert Z.
Excellent points Anthony. Unfortunately: You cannot currently send a star to Anthony because you have done so within the last week...and I'm told the same for you Robert O, Paul and Laura.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 7:23 am
I find the "they are coming for my gun" talk very funny. If you purchased your gun legally "They" already know you have one or however many because of the background check. If you purchased it illigally shame on you you don't deserve to have rights to own the firearm. It seems that when a member of my family purchased a gun they received a notice they were members of the NRA automatically so I also wonder how many of their members even know they are part of the group? I am not against gun ownership. I think that people who think the government is behind some conspiracy are looking for attention. And I, having lost a child much too soon, know how the parents feel at this time. Leave the parents alone and do something useful for your community to get some Good Attention you would feel much better about it in the long run and so would the community.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 7:44 am
Thank you Sharon for painting the context of the impacts on people from various perspectives in such a sensitive and compassionate way.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 9:07 am
There are conspiracies and then there are conspiracies, some of which over time become more substantiated with time and material released. This shooting isn't one of them. My sincerest condolences to the parents and the community. It is a very sad thing indeed. What can be learned from this. There are so many aspects to consider and there is no easy band-aid solution.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 9:25 am
You cannot currently send a star to Michael because you have done so within the last week.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:31 pm
These people need a psychological examination before they buy anything sharp, much less a gun.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 1:08 pm

Monsters among us.

Wednesday January 23, 2013, 1:14 pm
You answered your own question, Because they are idiots!!

Thursday January 24, 2013, 12:02 pm
I saw the video about this shooting being staged. it is very conviencing, esp when we can not trust the media or the President of USA or the Congress Senators and the Supreme court judges. this country has fallen so far so low, honesty greed and power and riches wealth seems the all most important thing to possess, but it never satys long, and when you die you loose it all.

Thursday January 24, 2013, 1:35 pm
Sick minds will have sick ideas. And there are so many sick minds, obviously!
We have strict gun laws in Canada and we fare quite well.
All that business about owning guns, What does an assault weapon have to do with guns?

Friday January 25, 2013, 10:27 pm
Obviously, these conspiracy theorists have not got the brains God gave a gnat! . . . nor any compassion or common decency. They are paranoid attention seekers. May a camel walk up their noses backwards and fart!

God bless the child victims, the parents and families, the staff that tried to protect the children and paid with their lives, their families, and first responders.

Saturday January 26, 2013, 8:28 am
Bravo to the reporter on the video. I was disconcerted that so many of the conspiracies seemed to come out of reports from major news channels! Following the Trayvon Martin case and others and now this one, I've become more angry at journalism companies for being so much in a hurry for the 'scoop' and the ratings, that we're getting half-baked assessments and the now ever-present commentary of which I've become so, so sick. Just give us the news, people. And if the fact checking takes awhile, all the better to know that it is real news! Tx.

Saturday January 26, 2013, 10:58 am
Stars sent where I could, but Lynn and Jude I was told it's too soon for you!