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Why Do Men Think THIS Is OK?


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JL
- 479 days ago - upworthy.com
There's a special website where women can go to record all the irritating sexism they have to deal with on a daily basis. The Everyday Sexism Project is a real time log of douche-baggery, and a reminder that sexism is still thriving in 2013. Read it & w



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JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 9:16 am
Why Do Men Think THIS Is OK?

There’s a special website where women can go to record all the irritating sexism they have to deal with on a daily basis. The Everyday Sexism Project is a real time log of douche-baggery, and a reminder that sexism is still thriving in 2013. Read it and weep.

Femi Oke


ORIGINAL: By Laura Bates, founder of The Everyday Sexism Project. Share your stories of everyday sexism online at the project website or on Twitter.
 

David C. (29)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 9:27 am
If I was to start the same type of web site for men, guess what women would call me!
 

Kit B. (277)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 9:45 am

I have to wonder if you men must tolerate to name only a few: gender bias in the work place, how to dress to be a "proper woman" (wear a straight lined skirted suit, with no adornments) be treated as the "go and fetch" gal, even when you are the boss. David, do you know how it feels to be the one in charge and when asked to speak to the boss, you reply, "I am." The reply is still, "No, I mean the MAN in charge." Do men really know how it feels to have a bad day, and hear the men talking about your PMS? Do men know how it feels to be the constant object of sexual overtures, even if you are married? How many men bend over a filing cabinet, and feel someone "patting your back side"? Do women walk past your and say, "nice package", men walk past us and say, "nice ass" or "great boobs" that is not occasionally, nor it is that something in the past. That is every day in every work environment.

I could go on and on with this, we are still paid less, work long hours, often work twice as hard, just hoping for equal pay for equal work. Has any man ever been told that a job is not for him because some day he might become a father?

If a man is accosted, is there ever a comment that he was asking for IT? Every woman that is raped will hear that from the moment she reports the attack.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 10:31 am
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last day.
 

BarbKnight SunshineLady (1633)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 10:44 am
WTG Kit!!! Just because WE bring males into the world, all of a sudden WE are expected to do everything? Really? Hey! Ut's a Give-and-Take-World from where I'M sitting!! MEN TAKE and WE GIVE....a little TOO MUCH if you ask me! TY JL!
 

BarbKnight SunshineLady (1633)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 10:46 am
OOPS!! I meant It's...
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 10:56 am
You are welcome BarbCat!
 

Carol D. (104)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 11:14 am
Yes agree with Kit and barb We never comment on mens physical parts like they do with us


nited thanks
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 12:06 pm
GOOD FOR THEM starting a site like this!
This NEEDS to be SAID OUT LOUD.
 

Kit B. (277)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 12:24 pm

It needs to be said out loud, often and repeated until the social discourse actually changes. Once the "push" stops, things slip back. What happened to the right to decide about your own body? We allowed that to slip away lost in a mire of Political rhetoric and talking points based on nothing but emotion.
 

Emily P. (0)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 12:28 pm
Definitely noted.
And bookmarked, for that matter.
 

Debra Van Way (12)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 12:37 pm
I used to work for an office in which I was the only female. Only once did a male make an unacceptable comment to me. I just looked him straigt in the eye and made the comment "You know, it is surprisingly easy to dispose of a body in such a way it is never, ever found. Would you like to learn my method, first hand?" He was nothing but polite from then on.
 

Birgit W. (140)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 12:58 pm
Noted
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:14 pm
You are welcome Carol.
You cannot currently send a star to Carol because you have done so within the last day.
You cannot currently send a star to BMutiny because you have done so within the last day.
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last day.
 

Louise D. (38)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:33 pm
I always got the impression that there is a decline in the collective intelligence when a group of men get together and from what some men have said to me the impression has been proven correct. I think the collective noun for a group of men should be known as a "Jerk"
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:35 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Louise because you have done so within the last day.
 

june t. (63)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 2:32 pm
Is that Borat?
 

Connie O. (39)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 3:23 pm
noted, and glad to see the women bloggers.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:20 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Connie because you have done so within the last day.
 

Julie F. (44)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:32 pm
noted
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 6:38 pm
Just to let you know,. not all men think this kind of behavior, this kind of sign, is acceptable. I certainly don't!
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:21 pm
Thank you J.L.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 8:16 pm
Thank you Jeremy. You are welcome Suheyla.
 

William F. (5)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 8:37 pm
I'm with Jeremy S. It's not acceptable in my book either.
 

John B. (215)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 8:49 pm
Thanks J.L. for the link. I'm certainly glad I'm not the only male posting a comment here :-), and as Jeremy states not all men think and act like this, however way too many do. Just to add my two cents worth though, many years ago I filed for divorce but after I retained an attorney, my wife called and ask me not to file as she wanted to do the filing because most people would think that if a man filed suit the woman was a slut and cheated. but if the woman filed then people would say "oh well, that's what guys do." She was right, so since I had already gotten and paid the lawyer, I took her in with me and ask that he represent her, which he did. The "Old Double Standard". Comments read on the site, here on this thread and post noted.
 

Marie W. (64)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 9:06 pm
Because sexism and misogyny are rewarded, encouraged and continued by religion, culture and society.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 9:14 pm
You are welcome John. Thanks so much for adding your example of the double standard. You cannot currently send a star to John because you have done so within the last day.
 

aj E. (163)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 9:06 am
sad.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 11:20 am
If men don't find this sort of behavior towards Women acceptable - and we DO appreciate you for that! -

Then YOU MEN NEED TO TALK TO OTHER MEN ABOUT STOPPING THAT SORT OF BEHAVIOR.
ONLY Peer Pressure is going to work!
Even if you men will be subject in your turn to Peer Pressure, ridicule, sometimes even violence...
THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE!!!!!
Thank you, Guys.
 

Gene Jacobson (244)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 1:15 pm
David. If you were to start a website like this for men, you'd just have some giggles with your friends because no one would take it seriously because this is simply not an issue men face, at least not outside of movies - which are ludicrous by themselves because they always have their 40 - 70 year old male star being sought after by 20 somethings. Not the real world. The real world is what you found on that link, though it does sound as if you didn't actually read what was said there. And THAT is mild, very mild compared to what many women, the world over face each and every day, not only the "threat" of rape or beatings, but the reality of them. That is life for the female gender, not men, or not most men anyway, gay men or those perceived to be gay or weak can be tortured by their own gender too but even that is a thimbleful of trouble compared to what women face, experience, every day, every where in every way. That you don't get this isn't too surprising, men are notorious for ignoring anything that does not affect them personally, for being oblivious to the pain and suffering around them, indeed for the being the cause of much of it. So what would women call you if you started a site like for men? A man. Just another typical man. Who knows not of what he speaks.
 

JL A. (272)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 1:27 pm
Thank you Gene--men do need to hear it from men who understand!
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 2:01 pm
Green Star to you, Gene.
 

Syd Henley (0)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 3:12 pm
REAL MEN do not behave in such ways towards women.
However, I can certainly understand why some men may react badly towards women. It is because they get fed up with women ABUSING them when they behave in a Gentlemanly manner, such as holding a door open for a woman or standing aside to allow a woman to go before them in a queue.
The real cause of problems in most cases, are the FEMALE FASCISTS and women's libbers who treat and speak to all men as if they are dirt.
 

Gene Jacobson (244)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 3:44 pm
Oh, Syd, someone has sold you a spoiled piece of pie. A very old one too. THAT argument is one that was heard in the late 60's and 70's as the women's movement began to emerge. Yes, there were a few women who did react that way, who did say such things, but they were never a majority. Civility isn't something "owned" by either gender and both have rude people among them. But those are a minority and I have observed that since the earliest days, it is okay for a man to hold a door for a woman, it is a courtesy, not a put down, and women realize that. If there are female fascists and I have to admit I know of none, their numbers are dwarfed by the men who still are, who still shout female fascist in capital letters, sort of the way you did, as you tried to lay the cause of the problems women face in this world at THEIR feet, just like most neanderthals who have somehow managed to sneak into the line of homo sapiens snaking around the world. I hold doors for women, for children, for other men, no one has ever objected. Quite the contrary, they say thank you. I see, especially in the younger generations that this small courtesy is disappearing and I mourn its passing because the small civilities are what separates sentient species from savagery. I was raise that way, a very long time ago, and I've never tried to break the habits of a lifetime, but neither have I ever seen what you make your entire argument. It is somehow all women's fault. Still. You're wrong, Syd, the only one speaking of others here as if they were dirt, is you. Think about that, perhaps you'll have an epiphany and realize women aren't your problem, it is your attitude toward them that is.
 

JL A. (272)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 4:27 pm
Thank you Gene for responding to Syd with such understanding.
 

Cynthia no frwd B. (260)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 10:52 pm
Men should speak up to other abusive obnoxious men so they get a clearer picture of what is or NOT acceptable behavior
 

JL A. (272)
Monday April 1, 2013, 8:41 am
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