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Firefox 'Death Sentence' Threat to TeliaSonera Over Gov Spy Claims

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Firefox-maker Mozilla could issue a "death sentence" to TeliaSonera's SSL business over allegations the telecoms giant sold Orwellian surveillance tech to dictators. The punishment would be an embarrassing blow to the company: it would effectively cut of

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JL A (281)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 3:42 pm
Quote from the article:
"The punishment would be an embarrassing blow to the company: it would effectively cut off HTTPS-encrypted websites verified by TeliaSonera from Firefox users, who make up one-fifth of the planet's web surfers.

Crucially, it will be seen as a tough stance against corporations that trade with authoritarian states."

. (0)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 3:47 pm
Really interesting article-thanks. Personally, I don't like Firefox; Safari has served me well.

Barbara K (60)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 4:32 pm
Thanks, my friend, for this info. I do use Firefox and hope it all turns out okay.

JL A (281)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 6:29 pm
You are welcome Barbara. If more companies were B-Corps we might see a whole lot more of such actions. You cannot currently send a star to Allan because you have done so within the last day.

Kit B (276)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 8:01 pm

Very interesting catch with this one, J L. I have seen the alerts from Foxfire about SSL certificates. One more reason to stay with Mozilla. Umm, a company that really does look to the safety of the end user?

What other lurking nefarious deeds are next? Customer care, satisfaction and reliability?
Oh my, that's a revolution.

JL A (281)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 8:12 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last day.

Ela V (85)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 11:47 pm
Thanks JL, i'm a Mozzila user and the info is very useful to me. I'm glad they did this move, perhaps not only TeliaSonera is doing the same

Ela V (85)
Thursday April 18, 2013, 11:48 pm
Mozilla, I mean, sorry for the typo

Sherri G (128)
Friday April 19, 2013, 3:12 am
I prefer Safari but can't stay logged on to Care2. I was forced to switch to Firefox. Once I did no more problems. Thanks JL very interesting.

Gene J (290)
Friday April 19, 2013, 3:22 am
"If Mozilla decides to reject TeliaSonera's new root certificate, Firefox users who visit a website that uses an SSL cert generated from the new root certificate will be strongly warned they are visiting an untrusted website. Website operators would therefore steer clear of buying SSL certificates from TeliaSonera."

Well, FF has been my browser of choice for many, many years. I like that it is open source, free, built by a network of collaborators and has been three steps ahead of IE all along, the first to come up with tabbed browsing for instance. So it is good to see a community of free thinkers take on an issue like this. By the way, there is a browser add on, it works on all browsers, called Web of Trust, that DOES warn you, even in Google searches, if the website you are about to go to is considered safe or not, if it has a bad enough reputation, WOT will interpose a page asking if you really want to go there. Just another small step for web security but one I rely on a lot. :^)

JL A (281)
Friday April 19, 2013, 12:42 pm
Thanks Gene for explaining what is so different about Mozilla compared to other browsers and their companies.
You are welcome Ela and Sherri.

Lois Jordan (63)
Friday April 19, 2013, 2:53 pm
Thanks for this great info, JL! I have huge appreciation for Mozilla, as well as gratitude.

Birgit W (160)
Friday April 19, 2013, 4:01 pm

Gene J (290)
Friday April 19, 2013, 4:11 pm
You're welcome, JL. Mozilla isn't really a person or a corporation, it really is a conglomeration, a collaboration of people who in the beginning simply believed that Microsoft should not dominate Internet access - not to mention with a browser so full of security holes that they have to issue 6 to 16 security patches every month, still. So, these free spirits decided to rebel. I like that part. Just a bunch of people with coding skills who all work collaboratively on Firefox, its code is not a trade secret, that is what open source means in case anyone doesn't know that, it is out there and free for anyone to peruse, work on, copy whatever. The group has certainly grown and now includes people besides IT professionals who do web design, promotional writing, everything a business would do except they do it for free, for the love of it. It is sort of how I think the world should be. Everyone pitching in, doing whatever their skill set brings to the table and no profiting from anyone else's labor. I am sure republicans hate it and think it socialism or worse, communism, but I think it the human spirit at its best. No other browser has the wealth of addons that FF does, and those are done by other people for the same reason, because they love doing it, they love helping other people and they think no monolith should control the internet. When IE first said it had addons, I looked. There were maybe four. And they had no utility whatsoever. Not like the nifty little Forecast Fox addon I have on my bottom line, that gives me 4 days forecast, current temp and conditions and warns me of severe weather coming. There are still some sites that will only work with IE, so developers created a nifty little addon that lets you turn ANY single tab in your FF browser into an IE tab. So well that it even fooled Windows Update and allowed me to access Microsoft's site from FF without MS knowing I wasn't using IE. :^). Those things make me giggle. I don't use a ton of addons, though I know people who do, but I have a few that I find useful, that let me do things I couldn't do with other browsers. And it has always worked with Care2 - I have had trouble with both IE and Chrome in the past on this site, so now use only FF here, and everywhere else for that matter, I go to YouTube from here. FF's internet tools are just outstanding as is their security and it is so customizable, it lets you lock down anything you want. And it never forgets where you were. I can close a window with 12 tabs open, shut down my machine, start back up, and open FF and there are all 12 tabs. And the latest improvement is that they are there but not active, not taking up resources, until I actually click on them.

And, no, Mozilla didn't pay me to say all this, nor ask me to. Nor know that I am. How I got to FF? Well, I looked at it in its earliest incarnation and some sites wouldn't work with it, so I got rid of it. Several years later, my oldest son asked me if I was using it and I said no, and he said I should take a look, I told him why I hadn't been and he said, well dad, they've fixed all that. And so they had. And a lot more. He's gone but I still think of FF as his little gift to me. I have other browsers and I keep them up to date but that is it, I don't use them, I don't need them. And I still like this little band of anti-mega corporations out there in the wilderness fighting the good fight for the sheer love of it. We all, well a lot of us, do that in our way, this is theirs. Care2 is one of mine. :^)

JL A (281)
Friday April 19, 2013, 5:27 pm
Thanks Gene for the wealth of information--hadn't realized some might read my comment to mean Mozilla was a company, so I really appreciate your detailed explanation of what they are instead.

You are welcome Birgit and Lois.
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