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Forensic Evidence Emerges That European E.Coli Superbug Was Bioengineered to Produce Human Fatalities


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Judith
- 2324 days ago - naturalnews.com
Even as the veggie blame game is now under way across the EU, where a super resisitant strain of e.coli is sickening patients and filling hospitals in Germany, virtually no one is talking about hoe e.coli could have magically become resistant to eight



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Henriette M (154)
Monday June 6, 2011, 2:14 am
Yes & it is to discredit organic foods & whole fresh foods & push their GMO CRAP! We have been lied to so many times we are not buying into it any more! Trust your own better judgment & never trust those that benefit from you being sick! Evil every action they take to kill us all! And it is working. Wake up & be alert to anything that does not seem normal any more. Thanks Judith.
 

as s (201)
Monday June 6, 2011, 4:20 am
Is this a terrorist attack or an accident? Either scenario is frightening!
 

Judith K (93)
Monday June 6, 2011, 5:16 am
Well Jed, the state sometimes being the biggest terrorist one could say it is a terror attack. But it certainly has nothing to do with al Qaeda etc. Due to the fact that it is resistant to eight antibiotics, which are named in the article, it is pretty obvious that it was engineered. So, do you believe that it got into the "wild" accidently? I doubt it. What Henriette said up there is also a very important point. It is the usual pattern used by the NWO: problem, reaction, solution. They create a problem, people want it solved, and they offer one. We will see what that might be while this issue unfolds, it could be pushing even stronger to ban organic food at a time when people want more organic food and a better quality, or may be they will offer some type of vaccine and try to make that mandatory. They will come up with a solution, and that then will tell, what intentions are behind it.
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a (135)
Monday June 6, 2011, 5:55 am
> the VEGGIE BLAME GAME
ha, grea! (addition to my vocabulary) * EXACTLY*

EHEC O104:H4 = really extremely err "interesting" strain
and
certainly --as certain as gravity-- it didn't grow on veggies.

as e.g wiki knows:
Escherichia coli is commonly found in the lower intestine of warm-blooded organisms... not always confined to the intestine, and their ability to survive for brief periods outside the body makes them ideal indicator organisms to test environmental samples for fecal contamination.
 

Pia M (88)
Monday June 6, 2011, 6:46 am
"This strain of e.coli was almost certainly engineered and then released into the food supply for a specific purpose." Poor Mike Adams - it must be difficult to live with such a wide range of paranoias. Microbes evolve all the time, and they are able to exchange genes between different strains and species. Infections caused by toxin-producing E. coli strains aren't even treated with antibiotics, so antibiotic resistance is more of a matter of academic interest.

Read Guardian's article for starters: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jun/05/deadly-ecoli-resistance-antibiotic-misuse
"Indifference to so many drugs signals that O104 possesses what is called ESBL resistance – and in fact, according to the Koch analysis, the strain harbors two genes that confer that resistance, TEM-1 and CTX-M-15 – a property that has been making doctors shudder since the 1990s, when strains of ESBL-resistant Klebsiella, a bacterium that causes serious hospital-acquired infections, began pingponging through Europe. - - In a kind of genetic hand-shaking manoeuvre that bacteria perform all the time, the resistance genes moved into some strains of E coli – not the food-borne, toxin-making form, but rather the common variety that causes urinary tract infections and other normally minor illnesses."

And how did the E. coli get into bean sprouts?
"Mr Lindemann said epidemiological studies all seemed to point to the plant nursery in Uelzen in the state of Lower Saxony, about 100km (62m) south of Hamburg - though official tests had not yet shown the presence of the bacteria there. "Further evidence has emerged which points to a plant nursery in Uelzen as the source of the EHEC cases, or at least one of the sources," he said. "The nursery grows a wide variety of beansprouts from seeds imported from different countries."" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13662431

"Dr Stephen Smith, a clinical microbiologist at Trinity College Dublin, said: "E. coli can stick tightly to the surface of seeds needed to make sprouts and they can lay dormant on the seeds for months, during germination the population of bugs can expand 100,000 fold. However, and this is probably the key to the German outbreak, the bacteria are inside the sprout tube as well as outside. Thus washing probably had no effect. The bottom line is that it is crucial to source where the seeds came from and recall any stock."" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13665785

"While bean sprouts are seen as a healthy food, they have been linked to a series of previous E coli and salmonella outbreaks. US experts have warned for over a decade that young children, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems should not consume them raw, advice now mirrored by the UK's Food Standards Agency. The sprouts are grown in water heated to about 38C, ideal conditions for bacteria to flourish." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/06/e-coli-germany-bean-sprouts?intcmp=239
 

Sandra T (126)
Monday June 6, 2011, 10:39 am
Henriette and Judith, excellent points made and I totally agree with the part where they invent a problem and then either offer or force their solution to it on us, usually in the form of poisonous vaccines or some other poison they refer to as medicine. Remember the swine flu and their useless vaccine and even more useless drug, what was it's name tamiflu or something? Their treatment caused more problems than the flue itself. While they origin of the disease itself could quite possibly have been a result of feeding these poor animals dead carcasses, so also a problem caused by them, their 'solution' caused more harm than good.

This is very clearly an intimiation aimed at having people avoid organic foods, in order to promote their 'much safer' alternative. Now it is still a matter of persuasion, in time it will by force. It's either that or just stop eating, as they are shutting down most organic farms already, having no reason other than eliminating any form of competition which doesn't blend well with their NWO control of the food we eat, the water we drink, or even the air we breathe. May they rot in their own filth one day, each and every one of them, whether they are part of it, or whether they are being paid to defend their filth.
 

Sandra T (126)
Monday June 6, 2011, 10:41 am
'intimitation' is the word
 

Sandra T (126)
Monday June 6, 2011, 10:44 am
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Henriette M (154)
Monday June 6, 2011, 12:38 pm
E. coli bacteria easily killed with spices like garlic, clove, cinnamon, oregano and sage
Posted by PC World news Sunday, June 5th, 2011

A recent outbreak of a virulent strain of E. coli has killed 19 people in Europe and infected more than 2,000 in at least 12 countries. The source of the outbreak hasn’t been pinpointed but the World Health Organization and the CDC are focusing on fresh naturally grown foods like tomatoes, lettuce and cucumbers which were packaged in Germany.
Entire suspect crops are ordered destroyed by the WHO and the CDC every year when an E. coli outbreak is declared. Why does the WHO and the CDC order crops destroyed? In recent years there appears to be a concerted effort by the WHO and the CDC to target only the foods that are essential for a healthy diet and life for millions of people. Foods which helps prevent disease, illnesses and viral infections.

Every year the WHO and the CDC issues E. coli outbreak bulletins and they always accuse anti-cancer, anti heart disease and anti-microbial foods like lettuce, tomatoes, cabbage, spinach, peas and beans. No E. coli alert have been made against processed foods that make up the entire menu at fast food outlets. Fast processed foods are linked to heart disease, cancer, obesity, viral infections and a host of other ailments and illnesses. The intent of the WHO and the CDC is to destroy only the healthy natural food groups. Yes the death of 19 people is a good argument in favor of destroying a crop linked to an E. coli outbreak but the destruction of the entire crops affects millions. Without these healthy food crops thousands, even millions will become inflicted with disease, illnesses and viral infections and die.

Did you know that E. coli illnesses and deaths can be eliminated entirely with spices? Spices like cinnamon has a long history both as a spice and as a medicine. Cinnamon’s essential oils is an “anti-microbial” food, and the spice has been studied for its ability to help stop the growth of bacteria as well as fungi. Cinnamon’s antimicrobial properties are so effective that research demonstrates this spice can be used as an alternative to traditional food preservatives.

Researchers at Kansas State University have found that spices is effective in eliminating E. coli bacteria. An outbreak of E. coli in 1996 was allegedly traced to unpasteurized apple juice that killed one child and sickened many others. After that E. coli outbreak the US government ordered all apple juice and other fruit juices to be pasteurized – henceforth killing all nutritional benefits of the natural fruit juices. Another E. coli outbreak years before destroyed all nutritional benefits of another essential food – milk. Pasteurization of milk destroys it life giving and anti-disease nutrients – including natural Vitamin D and essential natural probiotic bacteria. Any trace of E. coli in milk is eliminated naturally with raw unpasteurized milk’s probiotic bacteria.

Daniel Y.C. Fung, a Kansas State food microbiologist, and Erdogan Ceylan, a research assistant, studied the antagonistic effect different doses of cinnamon alone and in combination with preservatives would have on E. coli bacteria in apple juice. Ceylan added 1 million E. coli bacteria cells to one milliliter of pasteurized apple juice. The number of bacteria cells added to the juice was higher than the amount of bacteria cells that would be found in consumer food products and was done for experimental purposes only. After adding approximately 0.3 percent of cinnamon – roughly over one teaspoon of the spice to a 64-ounce bottle – about 99 percent of the E. coli was killed. Fung’s research found that several spices, including garlic, clove, cinnamon, oregano and sage killed 99 percent of E. coli bacteria.

There is absolutely no need to pasteurize, destroy or add harmful chemicals to our natural food supply when preparing and cooking our food with natural spices like garlic, clove, cinnamon, oregano and sage kills E. coli bacteria. More people will die as a result of pasteurization, crop destruction and adding harmful chemicals than from any E.coli outbreak.

Short URL: http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=2802
 

Sandra T (126)
Monday June 6, 2011, 1:08 pm
Well, now we can only hope that they don't stick something on spices next. I wouldn't hold my breath. Maybe they'll tell us that having bad breath caused by garlic can be fatal for others to smell. LOL
 

Judith K (93)
Monday June 6, 2011, 1:09 pm
Henriette, cannot send you another green star, but thank you so much for the information.
 

Pia M (88)
Monday June 6, 2011, 1:37 pm
Henriette: "No E. coli alert have been made against processed foods that make up the entire menu at fast food outlets."

Not true. There have been plenty of outbreaks of E. coli linked to fast food. Any food can be contaminated with E. coli - contaminated irrigation water and unhygienic slaughterhouses are the most probable causes of food getting into contact with fecal material. (Sometimes just bad hygiene is enough.) I recommend reading Eric Schlosser's 'Fast Food Nation'. Since E. coli can be killed by proper cooking, raw food (such as vegetables), undercooked meat and unpasteurized milk are riskier. Plenty of links here: http://www.foodsafety.gov/poisoning/causes/bacteriaviruses/ecoli.html - E. coli outbreak investigations from the last 5 years (most of them involved beef): http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/outbreaks.html

Some articles about the subject:
"E. coli 0157:H7 is one of the worst forms of food poisoning. Usually spread through undercooked hamburgers, it's difficult to treat." http://www.fa-ir.org/ai/fastfood_hidden.htm

Fast-Food Beef Tacos Blamed For Multi-State E Coli Outbreak: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040615075550.htm

"In January 1993, doctors at a hospital in Seattle noticed that a large number of children were being admitted with bloody diarrhea. - - Health officials soon traced the outbreak of food poisoning to under-cooked hamburgers served at Jack in the Box restaurants. The hamburgers contained a potentially lethal microbe: Escherichia coli O157:H7. Jack in the Box issued an immediate recall of the contaminated ground beef, which had been supplied by the Vons Co. in Los Angeles. Nevertheless, more than 700 people in five different states were sickened by Jack in the Box hamburgers, about 195 were hospitalized, and four died. - - But this was not the first outbreak of E.coli O157:H7 linked to fast-food hamburgers. As Nichols Fox reveals in her book on food-borne pathogens, Spoiled, dozens of children were sickened in 1982 by contaminated McDonald's hamburgers in Oregon and Michigan. McDonald's had quietly cooperated with investigators from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, providing ground-beef samples that proved to be tainted with E.coli O157:H7. - - In the five years since the Jack in the Box outbreak, perhaps 100,000 Americans, the majority of them children, have been made seriously ill by E.coli O157:H7. Every week, on the average, a few Americans die from eating hamburgers. - - Although outbreaks of E.coli O157:H7 have been linked to lettuce, alfalfa sprouts and apple cider, cattle manure has ultimately been the cause of most infections." http://www.ericsecho.org/investigation2.htm

"E. coli O157:H7 was first isolated in 1982 and gained prominence because of a number of well-publicized outbreaks associated with undercooked, fast-food hamburgers. But other foods have also been incriminated, including raw potatoes, raw milk, unpasteurized fruit juices and apple cider, lettuce/alfalfa sprouts/salads (at least 11 outbreaks in the U.S. since 1995), and possibly even sea eels in Japan. There is also evidence for waterborne infection via simply swimming in a contaminated lake or via consumption of contaminated water." http://www.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/O157DT104/O157DT104index.html

School lunches: "From late November 2008 through January this year, the AMS bought nearly 500,000 pounds of ground beef from Beef Packers and Skylark with unusually high levels of an indicator bacteria known as "generic E. coli." The organism is considered an indicator of whether potential contaminants from the intestines of cattle have gotten into slaughtered meat — a source of the far more dangerous E. coli O157:H7." http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-12-08-school-lunch-standards_N.htm

Fast Food Soda Found to Contain Fecal Matter, E. Coli: http://mywaybusiness.com/fast-food-soda-found-to-contain-fecal-matter-e-coli/420/
 

Sandra T (126)
Monday June 6, 2011, 2:16 pm
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Toni C (508)
Monday June 6, 2011, 4:09 pm
Sorry Judith and Henritette, no green stars this time... actually this doesn't take a wild stretch of imagination... have thought something along the same lines ever since the outbreak.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 6, 2011, 9:15 pm
Noted.
 

Kim O (396)
Monday June 6, 2011, 9:49 pm
Noted! Thanks Judith!
 

Marzia F (31)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 3:07 am
Noted!
 

Esther Z (94)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 5:49 am
Noted. germs and viruses invariably mutate which is why we're experiencing more and more of those super bugs, and explains the "super resistant strain of E.coli."
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 8:44 am
noted
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 8:45 am
I was going to write something but you guy scare me
 

Marie G (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 12:38 pm
Having read and re-read this article a number of times i can't see any other explanation for the outbreak.
 

Jen S (121)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 1:04 pm
I've been suspicious since the list of antibiotics to which the strain is resistant was released. The multiple classes of drugs alone should raise suspicion and alarm.
 

James E (16)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 1:11 pm
Lapse procedures at a biolab?

Terrorist attack?

Psycho biologist?

Market manipulation?

Or, just the long term result of overuse of antibotics?

Listed in order based on my opinion of likely cause, and all are scary possibilities.
 

Janet M (8)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 1:58 pm
Dear Care2 friends- READER ALERT. I see others have indicated that Mike Adams has a credibility issue. A heads up, he is considered by many to be the tabloid voice of the health publications, using pseudo science etc. Adams, sorry to say, has earned his reputation.

Thus reader beware! Before passing on one more Adams headline grabber, at least check this article's facts and look for independent verification.

'Fool us once his blame, fool us twice, our shame."
 

Nola g (5)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 2:02 pm
I thank the creator that I sent a large bottle of silver with my daughter when she went to europe in march. She has been taking it & is fine. She was in germany at 4x's in the last few months. I'll be happy when she is home though. My whole family take silver, it works wonders. Silver Sol is the name of the product I take. It has cleared up sinus infections, skin rashes, pink eye. I love my silver sol.
 

Stelizan L (258)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 2:17 pm
You can bet your last pair of boots on one thing - 'they' are trying to 'engineer' everything in this day and age!
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 2:43 pm
Interesting article.
 

William Y (54)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 2:57 pm
noted
 

Roberta Z (16)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 3:06 pm
The last bit of new I read in the paper was saying they had thought it had been traced to an organic farm in northern Germany and may have been easily happened because the sprouts were grown by using steam. I too find it curious how it can be resistant to so many drug treatments.
 

Susan Stebbins (11)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 3:14 pm
Oh my hell. I give up. Is there any chance for us at all?
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 3:30 pm
Another way the government clears of population growth and blames it as a terrorist attack.
 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 3:39 pm
disturbing!!
 

DORIS L (61)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 4:31 pm
Big UH OH!
 

. (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 4:33 pm
It wouldn't be a shock if it were true. Corporate interests have been responsible for almost every war after WW II. Why not make money off death without guns?
 

April Thompson (2)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 5:29 pm
Noted!
 

. (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 5:34 pm
You're quite right, Janet M. Adams isn't a reliable source. His lie in the article about the supposed 'ban' of 'natural' medicinal herbs, etc. in Europe shows that - when, of course, there is no 'ban' (which is an outright legal prohibition, rather than the regulation which has occurred.)
 

Kit B (276)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 5:44 pm

There is speculation but I didn't read any facts. This is not something to casually use to frighten the public, the title implies facts when it's actually just a blog. What labs? Where are test results? Where is forensic proof? In something like this I really care only for the facts and not about any one's opinion.
 

. (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 6:13 pm
Henriette, I don't know where you're getting your misinformation that the CDC and WHO 'always accuse anti-cancer, anti heart disease and anti-microbial foods like lettuce, tomatoes, cabbage, spinach, peas and beans.'

From March 2011 (from the CDC):

"Investigation Announcement: Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Associated with Lebanon Bologna."

From November 2010 (from the CDC):

"Investigation Update: Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Associated with Cheese"

From January 2010 (from the CDC):

"Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Associated with Beef from National Steak and Poultry"

From November 2009 (from the CDC):

"Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Associated with Beef from Fairbank Farms"

From July 2009 (from the CDC):

"Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Associated with Beef from JBS Swift Beef Company"

From June 2009 (from the CDC):

"Multistate Outbreak of E. coli O157:H7 Infections Linked to Eating Raw Refrigerated, Prepackaged Cookie Dough"

And so on.

In fact, on the CDC's website when you look at the list of warnings about E. coli outbreaks, nearly all are non-vegetable, etc. The list contains warnings about the current German outbreak, one for bologna, one for hazlenuts, one for cheese, one for lettuce, five for beef, one for cookie dough, one for frozen pizza, and one for spinach.

http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/outbreaks.html






 

. (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 6:19 pm
And from WHO's website:

"EHEC has been isolated from various domestic animals, including cattle, sheep, swine, goats and deer. Data based on outbreaks and sporadic infections indicate beef and beef products as the most frequently identified
source...."

http://www.who.int/foodsafety/foodborne_disease/ecoli.pdf

And there's quite a bit more on the WHO website about non-veggie, etc. E. coli.

http://search.who.int/search?q=E.+coli+beef&ie=utf8&site=default_collection&client=_en&proxystylesheet=_en&output=xml_no_dtd&oe=utf8
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 7, 2011, 6:46 pm
Fort Dietrich was the origin of the 2001 anthrax scare, so i wouldn't be surprised if Fort Dietrich was responsible for this e-coli outbreak.
 

Pia M (88)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 1:21 am
Kit, Robert Koch institute has confirmed that this strain of E. coli is resistant to eight classes of antibiotics, which signals it possesses ESBL resistance, a product of a combination of two genes: TEM-1 and CTX-M-15. This is already familiar since the 1990s when strains of ESBL-resistant Klebsiella started to cause serious infections. More info about ESBL here: http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/InfectiousDiseases/InfectionsAZ/ESBLs/
Antibiotic misuse is, of course, a key factor in the evolution of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, but everything else in the article discussed are just Mike Adams's lies and paranoias (combined with uneducated misconceptions). I recommend following the news reports of BBC, Guardian and Reuters, instead. Robert Koch Institute has some interesting information on their site, too: http://www.rki.de/EN/Home/homepage__node.html
"The HUS Consultant Laboratory in Muenster, director Professor Helge Karch, published the following Information regarding the EHEC/HUS outbreak strain: “Reports stating that the current pathogen is a completely new strain are not correct, stresses Karch”".
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 2:47 am
Scary the article expose the evil design of pharma companies of Europe defence experimenting Bio war weapon if it is true then these people are more dangerous then AL Qaida and in humane crazy scientist they should be investigated and detail report be published for people knowledge
 

Kit B (276)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 6:34 am

Thanks Pia and Lindsey. I did look up that information and found this article to be guilty of nothing more but attempting to reinforce conspiracy theories.
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 8:00 am
Thanks Judith...

If big pharma companies want to experiment on humans... I suggest they should experiment on pedophiles!!

Bean sprout anyone??? :0)
 

Donna E (0)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 1:03 pm
As I am not in the mood to get into any scientic discussion, I won't. It is time the whole world goes on a diet and ceases to overpopulate ,enabling farmers to go back to the conventional ways of farming and rid the planet of all GMOs which are causing major problems in humans. I also believe that all the altering of foods is contributing to all the super bugs; as we alter they alter. Our bodies have been weakened to the point that we are no longer able to fight off many bugs that we did years ago.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday June 8, 2011, 2:53 pm
There is probably little doubt that we HAVE engineered this bacterial strain, but by accident. The ultimate source of the infectious outbreak is the guts of farm animals routinely dosed with antibiotics as a preventative. These animals are living laboratories for the breeding of resistant strains. Add to this our complacent attitude to fresh produce, and you have lethal outbreak.
In the sixties, most food was grown much more naturally, animal sourced fertiliser was the norm, and my mother always rinsed salad vegetables thoroughly and then washed them in salt water. That was how it was done, how it was taught to her when she was young. If you don't want to eat factory farmed and hydroponically grown food. If you want organic produce, then if it isn't thoroughly cooked, you do need to do something about potential pathogens. Fact of life.
 

Myraida Diaz (136)
Thursday June 9, 2011, 5:56 pm
Herbal traditional Chinese Medicines are banned in Europe since May 1 2011. Now they are going to share info and research together.These are news from EU. Do you really think China has anything to learn from their owm millenarium medicines? What happens is that EU cannot have all the cake and eat it too.This they cannot do without China for economical reasons.Chinese are not idiots.But they need no research.
Tamiflu origin is China.They use that principle for respiratory infections other than H1N1 all their life .Now probably because Lab did not sell enough vaccines, (same principal) they negotiate with Viet nam to let them produce the medicine/vaccine? and with China also but I think China will make the generic.- what else?
And they have the original formula! - Big Pharma ...
 

. (0)
Thursday June 9, 2011, 6:04 pm
Myraida Diaz, you state, "herbal traditional Chinese Medcines are banned in Europe since May 1, 2011...."

A ban is a blanket legal prohibition. Please show us the law which supposedly says no one may sell or use 'traditional herbal chinese medicines' in Europe as of May 1, 2011. You can't, of course. Since there is no ban.
 

Myraida Diaz (136)
Thursday June 9, 2011, 7:07 pm
Lindsey:
Do not fight with me, please,I am not the one with the idea.What will i win saying this ? I use TCM myself. And will continue to do so as well as ayurvedic.I will bring them from China or India.Other, from homeopathic practicians.I was commenting precisely for the ironic of the situation. Or the tragic...China needs no EU to work with their own medicine,but big pharma is forcing the issue.I have friends in France asking to buy medicines directly from China .In fact,I have two friends flying to China to a University/hospital to be RX from a recognized MD (recognized in EU) to have the possibility to buy originals in China.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt141680.html

In some places they will permit finishing the stock, in others,things go out inmediately.In US, APPARENTLY, things will be the same or worse.
 

. (0)
Thursday June 9, 2011, 7:25 pm
Myraida, as I said, it isn't a ban. These medicines will now have to be registered like any other medication. They can still be sold.

http://www.jcm.co.uk/drum-tower-archive/article/confusion-over-implications-of-eu-regulation-of-traditional-herbal-medicines-1776/
 

Myraida Diaz (136)
Thursday June 9, 2011, 8:56 pm
In order to be registered ( as they want them) they will have to go through specific regulations which make almost imposible to find them as we always knew them. They must have been in the market for 15 years in EU and 30 years if medicine comes from outside EU to be accepted as is. All other are out..And one only specific element of a plant will not be find alone in the "composition" Labeling also will be different .Medicines change.Everywhere.You may have the principal element with different combinations for rapid or lower absortion,etc and you can be sure most of those medicines have gone through changes in 15 years. Even if subtles changes only.Then,they will not be admitted.Many are not available now.How many time do you think it can take to "occidentalize" them ?.They will have to go through tests element by element-.This is Big Pharma.- They are ban as we knew them.It is not only to register them. Remember my friends are flying to be RX to use the original medicine. Not the occidental idea in God know how many years from now. The moment you cannot find them until ??? happens,they are ban.And it is a law that came into force May 1 2011 It is prohibited to sell them as before and it is not a regular registration with a new label.Is a total change.You only have to read all the specifications (long) to see the picture clear.And, none injectable. This is controling injectable Vit C that so many people use for a variety of treatments including som grave diseases .Labs were visited months ago with the news of prohibition.Now,whats wrong with VitC? All my life I knew Vit C via injection in Europe.With great results.Now is prohibited. In US will be the same. It is already known VitC will also be prohibited in injections.Lindsey,this is business.I have my Rx since a long time ago and can find others.And have very clear that i will not take new occidentalize formulations.They can prohibit all they want.I know this is big business. Like that of GM products. - What Europeans have to do is gather more than a million signatures to ask for a change in law.And I think they are doing it.
 

Charlene Rush (2)
Friday June 10, 2011, 9:40 am
This is most fascinating, especially if true.
 
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