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Please Sign: Tell McDonald's to Buy Organic Potatoes and Stop Supporting Cancer-Causing Pesticides


Health & Wellness  (tags: chlorothalonil, chlorpyrifos, McDonald's fries, RDO Ron D Offutt, pesticide drift, cancer, brain damage, endocrine damage, children, illness, prevention, research, risks, monoculture potato farming, science, environment, ethics, babies )

Susan
- 628 days ago - thepetitionsite.com
In Minnesota, Ron Offutt's farm, next to the Reservation school is poisoning kids with pesticide drift and using very toxic nerve damaging and cancer-causing agents. Dubbed, "Lord of the Fries," Offutt is Micky D's main supplier and refuses to reform.



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Lydia S. (171)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 11:22 pm
Signed , Thanks so much .
 

Emma S. (205)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 1:42 am
Done! Thanks, Susan.
 

Regina P. (79)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 6:18 am
Signed. Thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 7:13 am
signed, thanks Susn
 

Angel Campbell (0)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 7:25 am
Signed. Thanks. I've also boycotted McDonalds for over a year now. Never again.
 

Mm M. (444)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 7:44 am
Thank you dear Susan ~ Another well written and outstanding petition you have done! SO SIGNED! xx BTW..Don't ever go to McDonalds even for Tea...They are on my Do Do or Poo Poo list!
 

. (0)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 7:52 am
Signed. Thank you.
 

Laurie S. (73)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 6:44 pm
Done!
 

Roger M. (0)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 8:53 am
Good to sign.
 

Joan M. (804)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 11:05 am
Signed. Thanks Susan
 

Kathryn B. (61)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 11:24 am
Done and Done.
 

Megan Beery (18)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 6:38 pm
signed and noted
 

Helen A. (108)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 7:19 pm
noted + signed
 

Christeen Anderson (419)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 7:59 pm
McDonald's please use organic potatoes.Pestisides are very dangerous.
 

Sara T. (3)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 8:27 pm
Glad to help the cause.
 

Lisa AWAY Neste (696)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 8:27 pm
Lisa, You signed on July 26, 2012.
Your signature has been delivered to:
McDonald's Corporation
 

Amanda Adams (201)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 9:15 pm
Signed. Thank you
 

Florence Eaise (132)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 9:33 pm
wow i had no idea! Thank God i dont eat that crap! Thanks for posting this Susan i signed and shared petition and noted
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Thursday July 26, 2012, 11:55 pm
Signed
 

Terri Hughes (412)
Friday July 27, 2012, 12:00 am
"SIGNED"....thanks Susan!
 

Eternal Gardener (700)
Friday July 27, 2012, 12:27 am
Whatever pushes the organic movement and environmental awareness, I gladly sign!
N& S with thanks.
 

Sharon F. (0)
Friday July 27, 2012, 12:28 am
Hey, everybody, let's boycott Mc (Cruelty's) fries until they serve only organic.
 

Vicky P. (462)
Friday July 27, 2012, 12:30 am
S and N
 

Henrik Thorsen (28)
Friday July 27, 2012, 12:56 am
Signed.
 

Lois Jordan (54)
Friday July 27, 2012, 2:10 am
Glad to sign. Thanks, Susan.
 

Jutta N. (25)
Friday July 27, 2012, 3:00 am
Noted and signed. Thank you Susan
 

Rock H. (255)
Friday July 27, 2012, 3:21 am
Noted and signed. Thanks Susan!
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (264)
Friday July 27, 2012, 4:58 am
Signed Susan even though I don't eat their crap
 

Vicynthia Tjahjadi (57)
Friday July 27, 2012, 5:10 am
Signed. Thanks. Hope it would help.
 

Kathleen R. (130)
Friday July 27, 2012, 9:42 am
signed & noted
 

Dave C. (204)
Friday July 27, 2012, 10:00 am
signed. thanks.
 

Amal Abdullah (3)
Friday July 27, 2012, 11:06 am
Done
 

DORIS L. (61)
Friday July 27, 2012, 11:16 am
Signed.
 

Krystal M. (39)
Friday July 27, 2012, 1:50 pm
Signed and noted. GAH, could McD's be any unhealthier?!
 

Joe R. (195)
Friday July 27, 2012, 2:45 pm
Signed and noted.
 

Stathi Stathi (24)
Friday July 27, 2012, 5:30 pm
Thank you for sharing, I knew nothing about!!
 

Darlene W. (297)
Friday July 27, 2012, 10:26 pm
Noted and signed. Knew there was a reason why I didn't go to Mickey D's. Blessings to all.
 

JL A. (269)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 6:39 am
every step towards healthier food for children is valuable
 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 8:16 am
Gladly signed.
 

DAVID LAIRD (0)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 1:48 pm
SIGNED
 

Charlene Rush (32)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 3:20 pm
Thank goodness for the internet, otherwise, most of us would not know what happens with Big Business.
 

Alicia v. (181)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 4:18 pm
Signed.
 

Marcillane Basso (18)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 4:57 pm
signed!!!
 

marie tc (164)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 5:03 pm
As long as millions of people all over the world support McDonalds they will keep poisoning us
 

Fran F. (110)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 5:08 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you, Susan!
 

Joy Mcronald (120)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 5:48 pm
Signed and noted.. Thank you..
 

Gloria picchetti (279)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 6:56 pm
Hey it's late I signed & hope I didn't oversign. That's life.
Spam flagged.
 

Nimue P. (195)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 8:38 pm
S&N
 

Jane Trelawny (4)
Saturday July 28, 2012, 10:34 pm
would be great.
 

Phillipa W. (199)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 1:07 am
S&N spam flagged
 

Ludger W. (72)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 1:48 am
noted, signed, ty
 

Susan V. (77)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 10:39 am
Just found this story:
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/mcdonalds-fries-to-go-pesticide-free.html

Apparently McDonald's claimed it 2009 it was going to reduce pesticide use. Doesn't look like that happened. The author of the article was skeptical.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 11:12 am
signed, TU Susan
 

Kenneth Davies (0)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 11:26 am
noted
 

Sue Matheson (62)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 12:15 pm
signed and noted
 

Ruth R. (209)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 2:45 pm
Noted, signed, posted to twitter, facebook, google. Thank You.
 

monka blanke (74)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 4:12 pm
signed & noted.
 

marie tc (164)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 5:20 pm
Organic potatoes are very expensive price will have to go up and people do not want to pay they are happy eating rubbish as long as it is cheap
 

Diane L. (104)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 10:39 pm
Just a little FYI, McDonalds buys raw products from many sources. I live in Washington State, and there is a huge "potato" industry here. I know for FACT that McDonalds buys local potatoes from Eastern Washington potato farms and they are not ridiled with pesticides. The same potatoes are sent to market all over the country and in many supermarkets here, exported and also sent to cold storage facilities.

Organic is fine and dandy, but many products are not any better if organic, and in order to BE organic, Potatoes, being a "root" vegetable may be one but actually why would they need to be sprayed with pesticides? As far as as I know, few bugs mess with potatoes.
 

Susan V. (77)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 11:00 pm
Diane - Thanks for the info.
to answer part of your question, the pesticide mentioned is actually a fungicide for mold, although I read that potatoes are sprayed at every stage of growth with one pesticide or another, some of them systemic. Insecticides are pesticides used to kill pests. So it could be the potatoes grown in WA are treated more with fungicides than insecticides. I'm sure Offutt is not the only supplier, but several sources say he's the main one.
 

Diane L. (104)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 11:11 pm
Susan, I don't bother growing my own potatoes, they're not expensive enough for me to bother with. However, I do know that when driving thru Eastern Washington, one passes miles, upon miles upon MILES of farms with various crops. Along I-90, the fields have signs that state what the crops are. Moses Lake has a huge plant that processes nothing but potatoes (J.R. Simplot) and I have two friends who drive truck that take containers of them to both the Port of Tacoma (for export) and to McDonald's frozen food warehouse in Hermiston, Oregon.

 

Diane L. (104)
Sunday July 29, 2012, 11:20 pm
I think if one is going to buy organic, it is better to concentrate on such things as carrots, celery, lettuce, spinach, beans, peas, etc. Potatoes have skin which can e removed. I've read that it's a complete waste to buy organic bananas because bananas simply don't process anything sprayed on them, period.

I just can't agree with demanding a fast food chain that caters to CHEAP food for it's consumers to buy only organic products. I DO think they can demand their suppliers to reduce spraying as much as possible, and as for the meat and dairy products McDonalds buys, they have the power to demand those suppliers clean up their act and improve conditions.
 

Tim L. (79)
Monday July 30, 2012, 5:48 am
Instead of petitioning McDonalds, why not just stop eating there. If everyone stopped supporting these fast food crap holes, all of us would be a lot better off. Don't petition, boycott!
 

Susan V. (77)
Monday July 30, 2012, 10:41 am
Tim, The petition helps get the word out so people will know why they may need to boycott.

Diane - systemic pesticides can't be peeled off. Since SO MANY kids eat these, and since McDonald's also uses oils (non-organic Canola, which is rapeseed - heavily sprayed) that are not the most healthy, and since McDonald's just made a larger than expected profit, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't use organic, or the closest thing to it.

"Growing potatoes in the modern world of agribusiness implies a clockwork schedule of pesticide application. Before the crop is even planted, the soil is treated with insecticides to kill wireworms. Potato "seeds" (actually tubers) are routinely drenched with fungicide immediately after cutting to prevent the spread of blight. Systemic insecticides, which penetrate the entire potato plant, are generally applied at "hilling" time, when the young potato plants are covered with dirt."

http://www.wedge.coop/newsletter/february-march-2000/potatoes-pesticides-and-genetic-manipulation

At the very least McDonald's should refuse to buy from companies that allow pesticide drift to contaminate school and home environments.
 

Carole K. (200)
Monday July 30, 2012, 4:39 pm
Noted & signed. TY, Susan!
 

Diane L. (104)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 3:52 am
Susan, I quite agree with your last paragraph, about refusing to buy from companies that allow pesticide DRIFT. However, I don't agree with demanding they buy only organic. If the fact they don't is posted, or rather consumers/customers are aware of it, then it should be the consumers/customers choice, same as it is when we go to the grocery store. Nobody should dictate to me that I MUST buy organic produce. I'd like to know what may have been used on the non-organic stuff, but it should still be MY CHOICE to buy or not. Every grocery store has those options and we as customers have the choice to pay a few cents per lb. more or not. If McDonalds wants to use only organically grown vegetables and raise their prices accordingly, then they will undoubtedly lose some of their customer base. Many college kids and those on low incomes get their meals there. Would you suggest pricing them out of that option if it's all they have?
 

Rin S. (10)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 7:17 am
Signed and noted, thankyou.
 

Susan V. (77)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 11:37 am
Diane, College kids don't gain anything by ruining their health just to save a few cents or a dollar. The fact that potatoes can offer a number of very valuable nutritious benefits - if those benefits are not canceled out by pesticides, is all the more reason for McDonald's, which has the ability to actually change the way a lot of potatoes are grown, to set this example.
The only way we can be sure that a place like McDonald's is using the least toxic potatoes grown, is to be assured that they are certified organic - or some other reputable certification.

I believe what I wrote is important and what I am asking is reasonable. However, if you or others don't agree, at least the petition can inform so that y'all are better able to decide whether to eat their fries or not. Personally, I haven't eaten at McDonald's in 20 years, however, I would consider it, if it changed about everything it serves. The salad greens and veggies (I agree) should be organic as well, but I'm focusing on potatoes because their production is causing immediate danger to those living near the spraying.

I think it's important for those who really may not have many other choices about where to eat and are unable to cook, to get the best quality of food that McDonald's can afford. It's not doing any one a favor to set them up for diabetes and other chronic conditions for life just to save a few cents.

Please consider also that McDonald's CEO, Skinner, makes over 13 million a year - that's close to a thousand times more than most of McDonald's workers make.
 

Diane L. (104)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 12:14 am
Sorry, Susan, but it's being nit-picky to say that college students don't "gain anything by ruining their health" by eating at McDonalds. Nobody gains much by eating there except possibly surviving. If eating a meal under $4 is what is available vs. paying $10 somewhere else, then that's $6 towards another day. Nobody is arguing that we should all eat better or from food where there are no or at least few contaminants, but it's unreasonable to demand a fast food restaurant chain such as McDonalds change to ORGANIC sources. Those sources are available to those who seek them out. "I think it's important for those who really may not have many other choices about where to eat and are unable to cook, to get the best quality of food that McDonald's can afford. It's not doing any one a favor to set them up for diabetes and other chronic conditions for life just to save a few cents."........so, let's say Mickey D's caves and buys only organic potatoes and ONLY organic tomatoes and ONLY organic everything. Do you honestly think they'll still over meals for $4?

"Please consider also that McDonald's CEO, Skinner, makes over 13 million a year - that's close to a thousand times more than most of McDonald's workers make"..........so what? I do believe the CEO of the company I retired from made a whole lot more than I did, as well. What is the relevance?
 

Susan V. (77)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 12:57 am
Diane -- read Zinn's history ----- it is of course normalL for CEOs to make a lot more than their employees -- but in our better days - before Reagan - even before Carter --- started lowering taxes on wealth, it was about 40 times more - gradually it became 400 times more ----

Making 800-1000 times more than your employees is called egregious greed.

of course we ALL feed into this greed - those of us who invest in the greedy ones' stocks - not willing to give up our own little share of the greed -- and therefore the CEOs are beholding to all the stockholders - they MUST make a profit --AT ANY COST--- or be fired - or even sued.

However, if you want to see how it should be done - watch the film on the guy who started Dr. Bronner's soaps. He refuses to get paid more than 10% of his highest paid employee's salary. He refuses to be greedy and he supplies a wonderful organic product.

Now back to McD's --- it's as simple as this -- if huge companies like these start supporting organics -It will bring down the price and make it more affordable for all of us.

I don't think it's any accident that McDonald's despite its wealth, serves foods known to cause diabetes - lots of them --- corn syrup - hydrogenated oils -- and pesticides - all linked heavily to diabetes. A member of its board of directors is the CEO of Abbott Laboratories--- which makes diabetes products.

"Abbott Diabetes Care is devoted to developing innovative products that produce accurate data to better serve the needs of people living with diabetes through advanced technology and research."

Certainly many corporations have this type of thing going on.

I just happen to think it's particularly unethical to take advantage of the poor and children (who are the main customers) and who are, reportedly, being exposed to spray from Micky D's potatoes.

I'll stick to my expectations on this.



 

Diane L. (104)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 2:07 am
Susan, what CEO's make is not the topic of your article, is it? What is the relevance of what they make to using pesticides on potatoes, OR demanding that a fast food restaurant which for decades has supplied CHEAP food to the masses have to do with what their executives make? Fact is that employees at McDonalds earn a decent wage for what they do, and in my state, it's minimum wage to start and can only go up. They have an excellent program for advancement and becoming managers, but again, NOTHING to do with potatoes.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Thursday August 2, 2012, 9:26 am
Jajaja I am not surprised, McDonalds sucks!
Signed, shared, and noted.
 

Susan V. (77)
Monday August 6, 2012, 10:22 pm
Geez Diane, do you own a franchise or something -- or are you speaking for the new CEO?
I make it clear in the petition letter that McDonald's can afford to buy organically-grown potatoes. Which is why I bring up money. I also now bring up the fact that McDonald's, along with a lot of other industries, is not interested in improving children's health, as there is TOO MUCH MONEY to be made on chronic illness, which McDonald's contributes to in so many ways, and which at least one Mcdonald's board members at Abbot Lab benefits from.

If you want more info on conventionally grown potatoes, Dr. Mercola just happens to list them on his SEVEN foods NOT TO BUY. Here is an except

Conventional Potatoes

"Non-organic potatoes are heavily sprayed with herbicides, pesticides and fungicides -- many potato growers donít eat the potatoes they sell, but instead they grow their own separate plots without all the chemicals."

Likewise, The Environmental Working Group Lists them with the HEAVILY PESTICIDED FOODS - on its "Dirty Dozen" list.
http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/summary/

 

Diane L. (104)
Monday August 6, 2012, 11:32 pm
Susan, I not only do not own a franhise, never have, nor will I ever, I dont even eat at McDonald's with the rare exception of going thru the "drive-thru" to get my dogs ice cream cones as summer hot day treats. I know what your petitition says, I can read. I also think it's silly to demand a fast food franchise to get ONLY organic anything. I can easily afford to buy organic food if that is MY choice, but many people don't have that capability, and guess what? Many who can just happen to like what Mcdonald supplies just the way it is. Many of the top Olympic athletes eat there even when IN training and competing. That's their choice. I don't know why you keep bringing up what McDonald's CAN afford to buy as raw foods, but the point is that it's unreasonable to suggest that because they CAN, they will, and if they WILL, then don't kid yourself for a second that the C.E.O.'s will lower their own incomes and profits so that consumers can have a higher quality product, WITHOUT raising the prices of those products. It would be far more reasonable and in my opinion, LOGICAL, to submit a petition to make it a requirement for fast food restaurants (actually, all restaurants) to list where consumers can read it, where there food comes from. Make it next to the prices and calorie content on the MENU or on the wall of such places as KFC, McDonald's, BK, Wendy's and the rest of them. Make it so that the customer knows what they're getting and leave it up to them to buy and eat it, or not.

As for Dr. Mercola, not everything he says is to be believed 100% and if you do, that's your choice.
 

Susan V. (77)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 1:52 am
Diane, perhaps you should write the petition you believe ought to be written.
I only think it's fair to ask a company that has the money to buy organic, and especially one that caters to children, who are more susceptible, in general, to the ill effects of pesticides, as their enzyme systems are not fully developed to metabolize them. And I wasn't suggesting it make all its foods organic, though again, I don't think it would hurt McDonald's to do so. As I showed you, Potatoes are among the most heavily sprayed.

As for Mercola, often my own personal research, based on primary sources, is ahead of Mercola's, but I find his often agrees with mine, once he publishes it. So I tend to trust his judgment and motive, even though no one is 100% correct. Environmental Working Group has a great reputation. I gave you two sources.

I don't want to spend time defending my choice any longer. I actually put a lot of time, thought and research into most of my petitions, and I live in poverty because of what I do and what I refuse to do. I have over 20 years of very extensive research on pesticides under my belt, so I wrote the petition I thought was appropriate and reasonable.

It was you who wrote that some people can't afford to eat anywhere else but McD's, so what good will it do these people to be told through labeling what they are eating is full of pesticides or trans fats or corn syrup, if, as you say, they have no choice? Labeling is good for those who are able to choose.

McDonald's, like Walmart on the GE Corn issue, has a great opportunity, by its support of organic foods, to make them more affordable for everyone. It's the least it can do after the years of bad health it's created for profit.
 

Diane L. (104)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 2:24 am
Susan, you're just resorting to being argumentative, and it's annoying. I commented to your article and voiced my opinions, which I believe I am entitled to have and to express, am I not? Eat what you wish and can afford, or not. I just don't agree about demanding thru a petition that a fast food restaurant supply more expensive foods to their customers rather than make it a choice or at least make them aware that they CAN make choices "accordingly". If people know that foods are not organic and still choose to buy and eat them, because that is all they CAN afford, it should be their choice. Once again, you're missing the point. IF McDonalds changes their source and buys ONLY organically grown produce, they will undoubtedly raise prices, effectively eliminating many peoples' ability to eat there. Many of us can easily afford to eat elsewhere, but some do so because they can't afford the alternatives.

As for Dr. Mercola, please don't insinuate that I also have not done my own homework or am not familiar with facts. I've read many articles about his beliefs and agree with some, disagree with others. To tell me that your own research is ahead of his so therefore I should take what you say as scientific absolute is insulting, actually. If you live in the poverty level, then you don't seem to have benefited much from said "research". Why is that? I don't mean any disrespect, but if you're smarter than Dr. Mercola, why is his name "known" to millions and yours is not? Why aren't you making money by your knowledge and research?

Anyone here can start a petition. You have and I won't sign it. I have no desire to start one about McDonalds making posters to put on their walls to educate customers. Actually, that has already been proposed by many others. That has been a discussion on several TV medical shows, including The Doctors.
 

Emily Drew (88)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 5:44 pm
Noted and signed thank you!
 

Susan V. (77)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 9:05 pm
Diane, I think if you reread my comments, you'll see that your last one has twisted mine considerably. For example, where did I say this below, quoted from you comment?

YOUR WORDS
"To tell me that your own research is ahead of his so therefore I should take what you say as scientific absolute is insulting, actually." or this: "... but if you're smarter than Dr. Mercola, why is his name "known" to millions and yours is not?"

How did you arrive at the above, particularly why do you feel insulted by what I DID say below?

MY words:
"As for Mercola, often my own personal research, based on primary sources, is ahead of Mercola's, but I find his often agrees with mine, once he publishes it. So I tend to trust his judgment and motive, even though no one is 100% correct. "

Diane, I am simply stating facts - it's not a judgement about you, it's a response to your criticism (below) of my sharing information he posted about how heavily sprayed potatoes are. And I included another source to back that up. Your statement below also assumes I said something I did not. I did not say Mercola is 100% correct. I said exactly what I quote above and nothing more.

You said:
"As for Dr. Mercola, not everything he says is to be believed 100% and if you do, that's your choice. "

We could go on like this forever, but I don't want to any more. I would ask that you read my comments more closely and not take them personally or MISREPRESENT them. I don't know you, so I have no way to judge you. You are questioning my petition, and I am giving you reasons why I think it is appropriate.

I in NO way expect you or anyone else to agree, but you should not expect me to agree with you either, if I don't, and I don't.

If you want to know why I'm poor, it's because I was chemically injured on the job when I was very young with two children and just starting my career and while working on my second degree. I overcame my very severe illness (caused by these chemical injuries) through a diet that was free of all pesticides and other unhealthy ingredients and by avoiding exposures to more chemicals -even perfumes -- I cannot tolerate any synthetically scented products or pesticides fumes without getting sick. Because I live in a society where people still think it's ok to poison our world, or food, and particularly (as relates to income) our workplaces, I have have been excluded, through discrimination, greed and ignorance, from a lot of financial opportunities.

Furthermore, at an early age, my husband died because of his exposure to agent orange while serving in Vietnam, and because the government has decided to accept some illnesses as agent orange related and some as not, (it accepts ALL leukemias as Agent orange related except the one that killed him), I and our children received no benefits after his death.

None of this stopped me from researching and sharing the information that I gathered with others. I worked for a long time for no monetary reward to help get pesticides out of my state's school system. A law was finally passed that cut down on spraying and definitely while children were present. I lectured at the University and even enrolled as a grad student in public health (the first distance degree program offered at UNC Chapel Hill). At one time, before I was injured on my job. I was offered a job at Novartis - then Ciba Geigy. I could have been making a lot of money.

I would rather be living in the streets, knowing what I know now about this industry.


Any more questions?

 

Diane L. (104)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 9:12 pm
"As for Mercola, often my own personal research, based on primary sources, is ahead of Mercola's"........yeah, Susan, that sort of sets the tone. I never did have any questions for you, so not sure why you are continuing with this. I read your article, I commented on it with my own opinions. You apparently disagree and don't like my opinions, so even though you sent me a "Green Star" for my first one, you seem unable to just let it go that I am entitled to have my opinions and I'm not going to change them just to patronize or please you. I agree with some of what Dr. Mercola has said over the years, but that also doesn't mean I agree with everything just because it comes from him. I disagree sometimes with my own physician, a doctor for whom I have a lot of respect. When one expects nobody to question them, or disagree with them, that comes across to me, anyway, as being way too full of themself and having far too much arrogance. Confidence is one thing, and arrogance is another.
 

Susan V. (77)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 9:32 pm
Sorry, you win. I actually mistook your question BELOW for a question. My mistake. DONE!

" If you live in the poverty level, then you don't seem to have benefited much from said "research". Why is that?"

and correction - I live below the poverty level.

 

Diane L. (104)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 10:12 pm
Good grief, Susan, commenting in a Care.2 discussion isn't about it being a contest, so not why you are so dtermined for it to become one. The question you now copied and pasted was part of which comment I made? By saying, "why is that", it's usually stated by people not as a question, but more in a "snarky" way because the remarks it was made TO, came across as being hypocritical In the context in which I made it, it was to question that if you were so far "ahead" of Dr.Mercola, and had such expertise, why are you not as well known, why is your name not associated with published research and why are you not benefitting financially from said research? I don't care, not wanting an explanation, just making an observation I could post dozens of "examples" of people who earn a very good income from promoting themselves in some field of expertise and they are just snake-oil salesmen. One example would be some of the horse trainers/clinicians I've observed. They have multi-million dollar operations, do clinics, publish books, write articles for magazines, have their own "line of horse tack", yet they are nothing more than "wannabes" who have borrowed (or stolen) the longtime and accepted ways of people generations before them. Some of what they do (on TV) is flat out nothing more than common sense, and in many cases, wouldn't work but they never show the failures. Most of us just plain ol' backyard horse owners know as much and can do as much if we had the same faclities with which to work...

You live below poverty level? So what. The "standard" (mediian) income level is now far above what I get as well. I'm retired and on a pension and S.S. At one time, what I get would have been considered a fairly decent income, but no more.
 
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