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Hey Candidates: Atheists Vote, Too -- So Stop Pandering to God!


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: religion, atheism, elections, candidates )

Freya
- 479 days ago - alternet.org
Politicians from Obama to Bush just can't resist the "God strategy." Can we ever evolve toward secular government?



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GGmaSheila D. (169)
Friday August 23, 2013, 5:22 pm
Interesting...wonder how many politicians really believe or just paying lip service to any Christians...We already know what hypocrites politicians are. Noted with thanks.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday August 23, 2013, 5:49 pm

If you are going to have Christian prayers should there be prayers for all religions? Why stop at one?

Thomas Jefferson was so right, keep religion and government separated by large impenetrable wall.
 

Sheri Schongold (7)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 1:04 pm
Yes, keep religion separate from government as he said, but remember that the majority of the world wouldn't do it if they were able to. God is too important to the majority in whatever religion has one and in whatever form. It will be too difficult to convince everyone that instead of "God Only Knows" they should say "No one has any idea and no God to turn to."
 

monka blanke (84)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 1:16 pm
I agree with Kit, no more confusions.
"Thomas Jefferson was so right, keep religion and government separated by large impenetrable wall."
 

Jamie Clemons (283)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 1:28 pm
And don't forget Pagans, Wiccans, Hindus, Muslims and Jews.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 1:34 pm
In the original Democratic platform statement that would be read at the Democratic convention last year prior to the election, all reference to god was omitted. It was then noted by Fux Noise, and the Dem. response was to add it back in, despite the majority of protests to just keep it out. Did anyone else know that happened?
A large majority of Dems. was very vocal about this at the time, but it seems the party heads aren't ready to push secularism. Unfortunate. That's why I consider myself a DINO, because I don't fully support the present platform. Somewhere there's a copy of the video of the convention floor booing loudly when it was changed.
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 2:01 pm
Intresting!!!!
 

Deborah W. (6)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 2:54 pm
Troubled times ... and disbelief. Fight to the finish for the very soul of man. Unreal...
 

Robert K. (31)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 3:11 pm
Judging by actions rather than words, there is no such thing as a Christian Republican. And the way they fell directly into bin Laden's trap suggests they must be muslims.

Sarcasm in the second sentence, truth in the first.
 

Robert Garvin (46)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 4:24 pm
I think Robert K hit very close to the truth as did also GGma Sheila. The trouble I find is that I doubt that ANYONE much who posts on here has any real clue as to WHAT constitutes a "Christian". If you are only going to take people's word that they are Christians, you will be sorely disappointed. You will expect them to be perfect and they are not. You will expect them to at least walk the walk that they supposedly proclaim, unfortunately they will not.

I once had a non believer working for me and I asked him how he would describe a Christian. His simple answer was extremely profound. "I think a Christian would treat people as I understand Jesus was supposed to have treated them". Well, Jesus was crucified for being different and caring for the down and out. Would politicians and particularly "Religious" politicians be prepared to walk that road? Would they REALLY be prepared to follow the 10 Commandments in both the word AND the spirit as Jesus did? I have yet to find one who does. There are some people that I have met who have come close but not many. Even I have to keep checking myself to see if I am truly walking the walk and often adjust accordingly. How many others can say they are perfect? No, I can't either. Sometimes we need to get the log out of our own eyes before we start trying to get the mote out of someone else's eyes. Particularly those who would criticise "christians".
 

Kate Kenner (207)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 4:37 pm
The best thing is to leave religion out of it. Just because someone practices any religion does not make them a good candidate or a good person (look at all those who lynched black men on Saturday and went to church on Sunday and I'm sure some of them were politicians). I don't care if they go to church or pray but I do care about whet ere they are honest and do a good job.
Personally I'd rather have an atheist in office because it would't be an issue. Religion has no place in politics.
 

Jane J. (2)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 4:47 pm
Although I think many use religion as a prop and are pandering, it isn't pandering if you truly believe in God and live your life that way. It would be pandering if they didn't speak of religion, just to get the atheists' votes.
 

Roseann d. (178)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 4:52 pm
Yeah, we've seen how all these "godly" leaders have destroyed the US. All the God talk is just that. Meanwhile back at the levers of power...they're as evil as Beezlebub himself. Let's give the secularists a try.
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Sunday August 25, 2013, 5:31 pm
If you need to pray to a never seen nor heard being before anything, then you are being wrongly motivated. If you are kind to your neighbour from fear of offending an imaginary being then the kindness is pure hypocrisy.

Quakers are kind because they genuinely believe in being kind to their fellow man. As an atheist married for forty six years to one I can vouch they never do this from fear of retribution should they diverge.
 

Marianna molnar woods (9)
Monday August 26, 2013, 6:07 am
ridiculous!!! without God you have nothing and you are NO ONE. you dont believe me? you will see. yet i agree bringing God's name into their wrong doing is pure evil in itself!!
 

Lona Goudswaard (79)
Monday August 26, 2013, 7:48 am
How I miss Jimmy Carter clear-headedness. He understood that the US is a multi cultured and multi religious country (and he still does) and kept his own religion out of his own speeches as much as possible (75% of the time). He knew you can't possibly cater to all religions and to atheists so he in fact acknowledged everyone's preference by keeping it out of government altogether. Just as the constitution prescribes it.
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Monday August 26, 2013, 6:20 pm
Marianna B

I must tell my children that I am evidently a nobody and have nothing. So to change this situation will you please enlighten me where I find this God, His abode, and irrefutable replicable evidence to support your so superior beliefs.

My only regret is that you, as I, will actually never know anything, as when we die, and I am probably closer to that state than you, we will just revert to being another heap of dirt. as will over a million people worldwide this, and every other, year, with most of them not Christians.
 

Jason R. (66)
Monday August 26, 2013, 8:01 pm
Mary was implanted by aliens Moses met. They meant to bring us peace. They admit they were wrong.
Virgins don't have babies!
Without god, you have life and sanity.
 

Lauren Goldman (0)
Monday August 26, 2013, 11:41 pm
I have been a confirmed atheist since I was ten, when I asked my mom to not send me to Sunday school anymore because they were telling me what to think (it was interesting when, decades later, my mom said that she came to the same realization, at the same age.) All religion divides people into an 'us versus them' mentality since each one thinks that they have The Truth. Whenever these sorts of conversations occur, there are always people who point to the Jefferson bible (Thomas Jefferson's version only contains the words of Jesus [the red letter words in modern bibles].) What they fail to mention is that Jefferson assigned no deity to Jesus. He considered Jesus to be simply a peaceful social reformer.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 10:37 am
Noted
 

Jason R. (66)
Tuesday August 27, 2013, 10:37 am
@ Lauren
For me, it was 5-6-7. I went to Sunday sch. and just played. They were very uninteresting. They paid no attention to me. When I was being confirmed in a BIG woop te do, I giggled and got smacked hard.
No cult for ME! I don't do what I'm told.
 
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