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Maria Ele
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New Jersey is considering classifying cats as "wildlife" giving hunters their blessings to shoot helpless cats with guns and arrows.



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Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 2:55 pm
The cat: Common, popular house pet or exotic, dangerous animal?





A number of animal activists have contacted state officials in an effort to head off a potential reclassification of feral cats, which could end the growing number of programs that trap, neuter and return them back into neighborhoods or the wild, and allow them to be hunted.


The state Fish and Game Council has condemned the idea of leaving cats in the wild and now another committee that reports to the state Department of Environmental Protection is studying the issue of TNR programs.


"Nothing has happened or been proposed so far,'' said Michelle Lerner, who works with the Animal Protection League of New Jersey and helped start a TNR program in Mount Olive last summer. "We are trying to work with state agencies to make sure this ridiculous proposal does not see the light of day.''


In a letter sent earlier this month to DEP officials, the APL and seven other groups, including the Humane Society of the United States and the New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, protested any effort to reclassify cats.


Such a reclassification could bring an end to TNR programs like those in Morristown, Mount Olive, Netcong, Boonton and Randolph, and could allow hunters to shoot cats.


Some members of the state Fish and Game Council have brought up the issue of feral cats at several meetings, dating back to May 2007, when the council voted unanimously on a resolution stating that feral cats do not belong in the wild.


Council member Leonard Wolgast was the sponsor of the resolution and has brought the issue of feral cats up at several council meetings. Some animal activists have questioned whether he should be allowed to participate in such discussions at all because he is listed as owner of the East Brunswick property where Blumig Kennel, which they say is owned and operated by his wife's family, is located. That kennel contracts with several communities in Central Jersey to
pick up and euthanize cats.
Wolgast, of Somerset, did not return calls for comment.


Jeannette Vreeland, acting chair of the Fish and Game Council, asked in 2007 if feral cats could be added to the list of animals that could be hunted, according to council meeting minutes. This week she defended the 2007 resolution.


"When a cat is left to roam outside the house it becomes a character who kills birds and small mammals -- rabbits, chipmunks,'' she said on Thursday. "It's really not a natural, native animal. They are exotic and not meant to be outdoors.''


Assistant DEP Commissioner Amy Cradic said this week she could not comment on the specifics of the animal groups' concerns because she had just received their letter.


"We did receive a letter from multiple groups asking for a meeting and we are working to set that up,'' Cradic said on Friday.


No action by the council is expected before a recommendation from an ad hoc committee of the DEP's Endangered Nongame Species Advisory Committee. That group, of which council meeting minutes indicate Wolgast is a member, is looking more closely at TNR programs and is supposed to recommend whether these should be supported or opposed. Its next meeting is in April.


The Fish and Game Council makes recommendations to the DEP and earlier this week recommended a bear hunt be held in the state.


TNR programs, bolstered by the 2004 report of the New Jersey Animal Welfare Task Force, have a lot of support.


Steve Austin, Boonton's Health Administrator, said Boonton's TNR not only works, but has saved the town money.


"Over the past five years, we've been able to save the town $19,000,'' Austin said, noting the cost to trap, hold for seven days, then euthanize a cat is $95. Often, he had neither the manpower nor the money to do that. Now the Parsippany Animal Support Society uses grant money to conduct the TNR program in Boonton.


"It should be our choice. If they are going to make TNR illegal, it's going to cost us a lot of money,'' Austin said.


In Mount Olive, the cost to euthanize a cat is $146, said Lerner of the Animal Protection League. Her group's local efforts have trapped about 90 feral cats and only released about 25 back into the township, with the rest being adopted. She estimates that since August, that has saved Mount Olive about $14,000.
But David Blumig, East Brunswick's animal control officer, wrote a letter to the Mount Olive Council as it was considering the issue, saying TNR does not work.


"One of the claims made by some groups is that the colonies die out. That never happens,'' wrote Blumig. "And eventually, when the money and volunteers become unavailable to support the program, you, as the governing body, will be asked to take over.''


However, Katharine Payne, president and founder of a group called Smitten by Kittens, said Morristown's program has been going strong for five years and is a success.


Payne said her group has trapped and fixed 948 cats and reduced the overall feral cat population in Morristown by more than three quarters. When the group started, as many as 30 cats a year were being brought to the shelter; last year, only one went there.


"So there are 800 cats not on the street caterwauling at night, defecating on laws, males spraying,'' Payne said. "Best of all, there are no more kittens out there suffering.''


TNR groups usually move the cats and then set up feeding stations and then manage the colony.


Various estimates put the number of stray and feral cats nationwide from 13 million to 100 million. Some say that leaving feral cats in the wild puts birds and other wildlife at risk.


"One billion songbirds, that's the number (feral cats) take in a year's time,'' said
Vreeland. "That's very much our concern. Everyone loves songbirds.''


Animal activists dispute that number and the American Bird Conservancy puts it at half that. But they don't deny that cats do kill birds. The debate is over the best way to deal with feral cats.


"They can have rabies, they flood shelters with babies, there are smells and odors, they do kill wildlife, There are tons of consequences,'' said Bryan Kortis, executive director of the New York-based group Neighborhood Cats. "So how do we reduce their numbers?'' He said such strategies as euthanasia alone and banning the feeding of wild cats has not worked. But education programs along with TNR have proven very successful over time, he said.
In New Jersey, the animal activists, wildlife supporters and most governmental agencies have been working together on solutions.


"The Fish and Game Council is really an aberration,'' Kortis said. "They are trying to derail these efforts. Obviously they stand on extremely tenuous legal grounds.''


The activists' letter states that because the state Legislature has deemed cats to be companion, domestic animals, the Fish and Game Council is prohibited from reclassifying or regulating them.


The state Department of Health and Senior Services has jurisdiction over animal control issues, including stray cats. It has not taken a position on TNR but does talk about managed cat colonies as one solution.


The Sheriffs' Association of New Jersey discussed the issue this week and plans to join the animal activists in opposing any reclassification of cats that would allow them to be hunted and is asking Wolgast to recuse himself from the issue.


The groups say the Fish and Game Council should back off and not try to fix what isn't broken.


"We've seen TNR reduce feral cat numbers and reduce the numbers of complaints,'' Lerner said. "This is really inappropriate for the council.''
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MESSAGE TO NEW JERSEY: NO TO CAT SLAUGHTER, CAT MEAT & CAT FUR GARMENTS!

Targeting: The Governor of NJ, The NJ State Senate and The NJ State House
Started by: L. Swa_
I am very dissapointed that New Jersey is considering classifying cats as "wildlife" giving hunters their blessings to shoot helpless cats with guns and arrows. Bow hunting is especially cruel. Did you know there are already laws against ANIMAL CRUELTY and you cannot tell the difference between what is considered "feral" and "domestic cat" because they are the same thing. Sometimes even outdoor cats escape unintentionally and some hunter will shoot it with an arrow. "Feral cats" are often misslabeled only because the cat is frightened, not wild. These are all victims of human irresponsibility.

(1) Legalizing the hunting of cats will bring multitudes of animal cruelty investigations. This will be a huge drain on police forces across the State - each case will require thousands of dollars and hundreds of hour of police time which could have been spent on other cases such as murder and rape, drug, violence, gang activities, and other investigations.

(2) People's pets will get shot by guns or bow and arrows - even indoor cats sometimes wander outside. It is a certainty this will make *national news* and the State will be facing LAW SUITS for allowing this to happen, and for many people, their pet cat is no different than their own child. In the State of Florida and Georgia many people REFUSED to abandon their homes due to hurricane evacuation - they are WILLING TO DIE with their pets. So the laws had to be changed to allow pets to be evacuated. People feel that strongly toward their pet, it is a certainty the State shall get sued for allowing their cat to get shot.


(3) Legalizing cats as "wildlife" ALSO gives license to skin cats (even alive) for fur garments. Cat meat will also become a legal produce under the term "venison". Cat meat is consumed all over China (in Guangdong China, 10,000 cats are literally boiled alive DAILY for meat and fur), Swiss, Austria, and many Asian countries.) Even rare occasions Oriental restaurants had busts serving cat meat. This will legalize eating cat meat, which is another white meat. Sweet and Sour kitty, compliments of the State law makers. It WILL become legal meat under "venison".

SOLUTIONS: Institute low cost/free spay neuter programs. You can put a dollar check mark box on driver's license renewals if a person wishes to donate a dollar toward low cost and free spay/neutering. You can also collect surcharges like $15 PER CHARGE on animal cruelty/animal ordinance violations to go toward free spay/neutering. Please see this Petition for details; other States are already doing this with a remarkable drop in killing animals - it's humane, makes sense, and everybody benefits.

For details see this link:

http://www.change.org/actions/view/affordable_spayneuter_bill_for_cats_and_dogs

Neighborhood Cats just posted this to their website and is asking New Jersey residents to take action for feral cats. Non-NJ residents can also write and let the Governor's office know that if this passes they wont be planning any vacations or trips to NJ.

http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/article/HOME/27

Take action now!!!!
March 13, 2010


The Fish & Game Council is made up of Governor appointees and includes hunters, commercial fisherman and farmers. Its purpose is to promote and regulate hunting and fishing. To prevent stocks of game from being depleted by the introduction of new invasive species, the Council has the authority to prohibit the release into the environment of exotic animals such as foreign snakes or predatory fish. (N.J. Stats. 23 4-63.3.) The Council is not allowed to prohibit the release of domesticated companion animals.
The Fish & Game Council wants to ban TNR by classifying cats as an exotic species which cannot be allowed outdoors rather than a domesticated companion animal, an absurd result considering cats are the most popular pet in the United States. But if the Council has its way, anyone allowing a cat outdoors will be subject to fines of up to $2000 per occurrence. This rule change would conflict with New Jersey state laws which expressly state cats are domestic animals, fly in the face of common sense and be an egregious abuse of the agency's discretion.

More than 100 municipalities in New Jersey have turned to Trap-Neuter-Return as their preferred approach to feral cat management. TNR has grown increasingly popular in the state since 2004 when then Governor McGreevey's Animal Welfare Task Force strongly recommended it. It is mentioned as part of the solution to free-roaming cat overpopulation by the New Jersey Department of Health & Senior Services. Nationally, The Humane Society of the United States, the ASPCA and the National Animal Control Association endorse TNR. The Council's ban would not only be illegal, it would be contrary to the best practices of animal welfare authorities and the will of the people of New Jersey.

"The Fish & Game Council is offering a ban, not a solution," said Bryan Kortis, executive director of Neighborhood Cats. "There are hundreds of thousands of feral cats roaming New Jersey. Past practices aimed at reducing their numbers, such as euthanizing or feeding bans, have repeatedly failed. Only TNR has been shown to effectively and humanely lower feral cat populations. Eliminating this tool would have disastrous consequences for both cats and wildlife."
TAKE ACTION!
* Phone the Governor's office and the Commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection and demand the TNR ban be stopped.
The Commissioner oversees the Fish & Game Council. See contact info below. Phone calls are best. If you don't get through at first, keep trying! When you do get someone on the phone, be sure to ask to speak to a live person and not be sent to voicemail.

*Phone the State Ethics Commission and the Ethics Liason Officer at the Department of Environmental Protection and demand Leonard Wolgast be recused. Someone whose family euthanizes cats for profit should not be involved in a government policy change that would result in more euthanasia.

*Send emails!
Phone calls are better, but send emails, too. Subject headings should be generic (e.g., "a matter of concern") not specific (e.g., "Fish & Game Council's ban of TNR") so they can't be easily screened out before someone reads them.

* Contact info:

Governor Chris Christie
phone: 609-292-6000 (Mon to Friday 8 am to 6 pm)
email: http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/ (Select "Natural Resources" as topic and "Fish, Game & Wildlife" as sub-topic on next page)

Acting Commissioner Bob Martin
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 292-2885 / (609) 777-4327
fax: (609) 292-7695

State Ethics Commission
phone: 1-888-223-1355 (NJ residents only)

Catherine Tormey
Ethics Liason Officer
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 633-0346
FAX- (609) 984-3962
catherine.tormey@dep.state.nj.us

In phone calls and emails, be firm but polite at all times - don't let them label you as a "crazy cat person". Mention your profession and any educational degrees you hold.

* Donate! The more funds we have, the more we can do to stop this outrage. Go to our Donate page to make a secure online gift.

TALKING POINTS

- The Fish & Game Council is abusing its discretion and defying the will of the people of NJ by trying to ban all cats from being outdoors, by trying to prohibit Trap-Neuter-Return and by allowing cats to be shot - and you want it stopped!

-TNR is endorsed by all leading animal welfare organizations and practiced in over 100 NJ municipalities and should be encouraged, not suppressed.

- New Jersey residents: tell Governor Christie to stop this outrage if he's interested in your vote in the next election.

- non-NJ residents: if this ban is passed, you won't be taking a trip or vacation to NJ any time soon.

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"I never imagined losing my mind was going to be such hard work. "

link in facebook
Neighborhood Cats just posted this to their website and is asking New Jersey residents to take action for feral cats. Non-NJ residents can also write and let the Governor's office know that if this passes they wont be planning any vacations or trips to NJ.

http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/article/HOME/27

Take action now!!!!
March 13, 2010


The Fish & Game Council is made up of Governor appointees and includes hunters, commercial fisherman and farmers. Its purpose is to promote and regulate hunting and fishing. To prevent stocks of game from being depleted by the introduction of new invasive species, the Council has the authority to prohibit the release into the environment of exotic animals such as foreign snakes or predatory fish. (N.J. Stats. 23 4-63.3.) The Council is not allowed to prohibit the release of domesticated companion animals.
The Fish & Game Council wants to ban TNR by classifying cats as an exotic species which cannot be allowed outdoors rather than a domesticated companion animal, an absurd result considering cats are the most popular pet in the United States. But if the Council has its way, anyone allowing a cat outdoors will be subject to fines of up to $2000 per occurrence. This rule change would conflict with New Jersey state laws which expressly state cats are domestic animals, fly in the face of common sense and be an egregious abuse of the agency's discretion.

More than 100 municipalities in New Jersey have turned to Trap-Neuter-Return as their preferred approach to feral cat management. TNR has grown increasingly popular in the state since 2004 when then Governor McGreevey's Animal Welfare Task Force strongly recommended it. It is mentioned as part of the solution to free-roaming cat overpopulation by the New Jersey Department of Health & Senior Services. Nationally, The Humane Society of the United States, the ASPCA and the National Animal Control Association endorse TNR. The Council's ban would not only be illegal, it would be contrary to the best practices of animal welfare authorities and the will of the people of New Jersey.

"The Fish & Game Council is offering a ban, not a solution," said Bryan Kortis, executive director of Neighborhood Cats. "There are hundreds of thousands of feral cats roaming New Jersey. Past practices aimed at reducing their numbers, such as euthanizing or feeding bans, have repeatedly failed. Only TNR has been shown to effectively and humanely lower feral cat populations. Eliminating this tool would have disastrous consequences for both cats and wildlife."
TAKE ACTION!
* Phone the Governor's office and the Commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection and demand the TNR ban be stopped.
The Commissioner oversees the Fish & Game Council. See contact info below. Phone calls are best. If you don't get through at first, keep trying! When you do get someone on the phone, be sure to ask to speak to a live person and not be sent to voicemail.

*Phone the State Ethics Commission and the Ethics Liason Officer at the Department of Environmental Protection and demand Leonard Wolgast be recused. Someone whose family euthanizes cats for profit should not be involved in a government policy change that would result in more euthanasia.

*Send emails!
Phone calls are better, but send emails, too. Subject headings should be generic (e.g., "a matter of concern") not specific (e.g., "Fish & Game Council's ban of TNR") so they can't be easily screened out before someone reads them.

* Contact info:

Governor Chris Christie
phone: 609-292-6000 (Mon to Friday 8 am to 6 pm)
email: http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/ (Select "Natural Resources" as topic and "Fish, Game & Wildlife" as sub-topic on next page)

Acting Commissioner Bob Martin
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 292-2885 / (609) 777-4327
fax: (609) 292-7695

State Ethics Commission
phone: 1-888-223-1355 (NJ residents only)

Catherine Tormey
Ethics Liason Officer
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 633-0346
FAX- (609) 984-3962
catherine.tormey@dep.state.nj.us

In phone calls and emails, be firm but polite at all times - don't let them label you as a "crazy cat person". Mention your profession and any educational degrees you hold.

* Donate! The more funds we have, the more we can do to stop this outrage. Go to our Donate page to make a secure online gift.

TALKING POINTS

- The Fish & Game Council is abusing its discretion and defying the will of the people of NJ by trying to ban all cats from being outdoors, by trying to prohibit Trap-Neuter-Return and by allowing cats to be shot - and you want it stopped!

-TNR is endorsed by all leading animal welfare organizations and practiced in over 100 NJ municipalities and should be encouraged, not suppressed.

- New Jersey residents: tell Governor Christie to stop this outrage if he's interested in your vote in the next election.

- non-NJ residents: if this ban is passed, you won't be taking a trip or vacation to NJ any time soon.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I never imagined losing my mind was going to be such hard work. "


 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 2:57 pm
links
http://www.postpunkkitchen.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=2183244

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=382436191224&ref=mf

http://animals.change.org/actions/view/message_to_new_jersey_no_to_cat_slaughter_cat_meat_cat_fur_garments
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:01 pm
How far are we going to let this good ol' boy retarded mentality continue?????????????????
EH????????
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (599)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:26 pm
First of all,
anyone who has a cat for a pet needs to keep them
indoors, all the time, for their own safety and protection.
Jill & I have 11 cats (!), and they are all indoor cats.
Purina makes a cat chow that is specially formulated for indoor cats,
and our thrive on it. They are all in wonderful health.

Secondly, I have always felt sorry for snyone who has never had
a personal, one-on-one relationship with a cat, or a dog. If you want
unconditional love, get a cat and/or a dog. They can and do display genuine
love as no human possibly can.

Thank you, Maria Elena.
noted.
 

liz c. (842)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:33 pm
You are absolutely right Maria--it cant continue. This is a bizarre idea. How in the hell could HUNTERS tell the difference between a house cat out for a stroll, or a feral cat? Feral cats are living breathing innocents that need to be protected not killed. The figures for TNR is very impressive--how can those figures be denied???????I will forward this far and wide. If there is anything else that I can do--just let me know. Thank you Maria.
 

Anna Borsey (66)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:35 pm
Oh dear. This is outrageous! Domesticated felines "reclassified" as an "exotic" species?
 

Anna Borsey (66)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:41 pm
Correction: reclassified as "wildlife"?

Both tame pet cats AND ferals deserve protection and peace to live their lives, naturally. A cat is a cat is a cat . . .
I do not differentiate between the two. Ferals are unfortunate in that they have no special human to care for them, protect them, worry over them, feed them, take them to the vet if necessary and so on.'

I cannot understand the mentality of people who hate cats and who just want to kill them. My dearest, most loving and loyal friends have been cats, in fact.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:43 pm
There's idiots all over our species, but it's a problem when they get to make decisions
 

Adam P. (10)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:47 pm
People in New Jersey must be crazy or not human beings! Who had such idiotic idea! And in name of what?! Fun, sport or what? I can't image who can be so stupid and who can live there - people without hearts for sure! I'm in shock that such people live in USA !
 

Pami W. (192)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 3:53 pm
I certainly hope the Governor of New Jersey stops this its its tracks and for petes sake fire those Fish and Game people who came up with this hair brained idea.
They remind me of the Bureau of Land Mangement people by saying the american horse is not native to america just to get them reclassified to make the ranchers happy.

 

bilja k. (48)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 4:00 pm
The are cats domesticated or not. Black days for them. Hope the problem will be solved in civilized manner,
not by killing.
 

mary f. (175)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 5:03 pm
leave all the cats alone feral and domestic stop the killing
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 5:06 pm
Omygod, this is absolutely outrageous - kitty cats hunted down... with bullets and arrows?

Frankly, I think part of this behavior by people is their need for blood lust, to kill ...

Seriously, now they want to exercise their blood lust with innocent critters. Unbelievable.

What can we do about this?
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 6:19 pm
This can't be happening.
 

rosemary weston (1)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 6:30 pm
there are a lot of irresponsible "hunters out there that give the conciensious hunters who hunt for food soberly and carefully a bad name. with all the deer hunting, so far, they aren't doing so well with controlling that population. probably more of the crazy element out there shooting everything that moves in our backyards. i hope the people of new jersey show better sense than to think this is a sensable plan not even taking into consideration the humanity of such a proposal.
 

Katie R. (7)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 6:31 pm
Freaking insane!
 

Donna B. (39)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 6:47 pm
Noted and I e-mailed the governor.
 

catherine g. (120)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 7:04 pm
"everyone loves songbirds"? does that mean we should all hate cats? that's the intimation here ~

some people just hate cats, and will look for any excuse to annihilate them. these individuals are too eager to overlook their own and society's role in the deaths of birds, and cats, when you hate them, make an easy target. too easy ~

the truth is, only tnr works to reduce feral cat populations. hunting and killing them is no way to behave ~
 

catherine g. (120)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 7:19 pm
no cat would be allowed outside except domestic cats. just how do they propose to differentiate ~

this kind of legislation will spawn horrible abuses of cats, as unkindly disposed individuals will think it's justified. just like in australia, this would encourage cat haters to capitalize and give them free rein to demonize as much as the would like ~
 

Cristina S. (338)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 7:58 pm
"Stop New Jersey from legalizing the hunting of cats!" petition
 

linda b. (190)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 8:07 pm
Glad i live in a country where ferrals are helped and protected.
 

Karen S. (153)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 8:13 pm
All my furbabies are Indoors...Surely can't think of another way...Just kill them! They make me sick!!!The answer to everything. Sweet innocent kitties gunned down..OMG! We can't let this happen.
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 8:15 pm
Thank you Cristina.

Signed petition.
 

Kimberly P. (8)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 8:23 pm
Oh no this is not happening....
 

Muhammad Helmi (25)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 8:39 pm
SAY NO FOREVER TO CATS AND DOGS SLAUGHTER
 

Henriette Matthijssen (145)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 10:02 pm
Cats have always been Masters since beginning of times! Now some brain storm idiot wants to reclassify them as wildlife! No more, this ends here we do not & will not get this passed. Your all with me on this, Care 2 members, we fight this & we fight for all other animals right! This insanity is going to be Stopped NOW! Are we pulling together here! I do hope so! They are worthy of so much more then what they have been dished out to all of them!
 

Cheryl Ulrich (108)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 10:05 pm
I agree with Pastor Tim .. Keep your cats indoors for their OWN well being and protection !! It's best for everyone involved - the cats , the birds and other wildlife , and the neighbors ! As someone just said , some people just don't like cats , and wouldn't hesitate to put a BB pellet ( or worse ) in one. Dogs too. People put out poison as well . Cars don't care what they run over either , for that matter ! So if you really care about your pets well-being , keep them SAFE INDOORS !
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 10:11 pm
This is totally insane and outrageos, we cannot let things go backwards, please spread the word, send the emails, faxes, phone calls, petitions , whatever...this is just that, BACKWARDS...IDIOTS!!!!!
 

brenda h. (65)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 10:13 pm
OMG leave it to New Jersey to come up with something so inhumane.
 

Alejandra Vega (139)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 10:52 pm
OMG!!! This is unbelievable!!! BASTARDS!!!
 

chris b. (2474)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 11:25 pm
There should be an open all year hunting season on politicians! Otherwise ban all weapons of destruction period!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday March 18, 2010, 11:37 pm
I don't think this ever could happen, there would be a huge protest by most citizens in New Jersey. They probably just aren't aware of any such idea yet. The vast majority of people would not want domestic animals to be shot for any reason, even if they are strays or 'feral', for any reason.
 

Ekeim Teeuwisse (145)
Friday March 19, 2010, 12:32 am
noted, and signed the care2-petition and the 2 change-petitions.
 

Tekla Drakfrende (82)
Friday March 19, 2010, 1:29 am
crazy!
 

chris b. (2474)
Friday March 19, 2010, 2:20 am
I note in the news item the person who sponsored this issue is reported as having a vested interest as they are connected with a company that is trapping and euthanizing cats! : "Council member Leonard Wolgast was the sponsor of the resolution and has brought the issue of feral cats up at several council meetings. Some animal activists have questioned whether he should be allowed to participate in such discussions at all because he is listed as owner of the East Brunswick property where Blumig Kennel, which they say is owned and operated by his wife's family, is located. That kennel contracts with several communities in Central Jersey to
pick up and euthanize cats."
 

Margaret S. (70)
Friday March 19, 2010, 2:51 am
Chris your post tells so much,what a scum this guy is,the whole idea is ridiculous,i mean imagine grown men with guns shooting kitties,absolutely outrageous,it must not be given the go ahead.
 

Elizabeth C. (25)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:45 am
Thank you for this post. This is outrageous and our voices of loud objection must be heard !
 

Mary Hall (74)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:52 am
What a cruel & ridiculous idea. We all must join & protest such outrageous propositions!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:23 am
signed earlier...
 

Ana F. (131)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:51 am
ESTAN TODOS LOCOS?? POR FAVOR ESTAMOS EN EL 2010, CUANDO EL HOMBRE EMPEZARA A SER "HUMANO"
 

Elm Morrison (357)
Friday March 19, 2010, 6:18 am
Thank you for signing “Stop New Jersey from legalizing the hunting of cats!”
 

SANJA v. (98)
Friday March 19, 2010, 6:23 am
Disgusting,greedy and mean. I hate those people.
 

NoMailPlease M. (445)
Friday March 19, 2010, 8:12 am
Oh My Goodness, No words fit to type!
 

Peggy A. (111)
Friday March 19, 2010, 8:40 am
What a sick bunch of people.They keep killing all of the wildlife and the populations don't have time to grow ,so they need new prey to shoot.This should make all of the cat haters happy.A bunch of sick,brutal,blood-thristy bastards.Well we'll make sure it does not happen.Nobody's kitties will be safe,including the farmers.Can you imagine a poor little kitty being impaled with those horrible blades on an arrow in archery hunting.I saw those arrow tips once and was totally shocked.They are razor blades on a shaft.We can not let this happen===never
 

Peggy A. (111)
Friday March 19, 2010, 8:46 am
Only 226 signatures so far on the petition.We must get this story out to the members
 

Rajee Seetharam (138)
Friday March 19, 2010, 8:50 am
Unthinkable cruelty! Please do something to stop this! Noted with disgust! Thanks!
 

liz c. (842)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:03 am
Can someone send me to the link for the petition please? I want to make sure that I signed it. thank you.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:38 am
Two petition sites and contact info, Liz

Governor Chris Christie
phone: 609-292-6000 (Mon to Friday 8 am to 6 pm)
email: http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/ (Select "Natural Resources" as topic and "Fish, Game & Wildlife" as sub-topic on next page)

Acting Commissioner Bob Martin
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 292-2885 / (609) 777-4327
fax: (609) 292-7695

State Ethics Commission
phone: 1-888-223-1355 (NJ residents only)

Catherine Tormey
Ethics Liason Officer
Department of Environmental Protection
phone: (609) 633-0346
FAX- (609) 984-3962
catherine.tormey@dep.state.nj.us

In phone calls and emails, be firm but polite at all times - don't let them label you as a "crazy cat person". Mention your profession and any educational degrees you hold.



http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-new-jersey-from-legalizing-the-hunting-of-cats

http://animals.change.org/actions/view/message_to_new_jersey_no_to_cat_slaughter_cat_meat_cat_fur_garments
 

Jaette Carpenter (20)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:41 am
NO NO NO.
 

Jo Pretorius (87)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:42 am
Brave warriors! This makes me so angry.
 

corinne ramsden (5)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:14 am
animal torture is never ending we must keep up the fight for the defenceless
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:19 am
Actions taken - Emails sent... OMG! SAD!!!!!
 

Gudrun D. (399)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:22 am
Action taken. Too angry to comment....*@#&%*^@! Thanks Maria.
 

wendy w. (47)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:28 am
This is America..not Asia. Things like this are not supposed to happen here. Petition signed & forwarded. Now off to e-mail!!
 

Patricia C. (96)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:33 am
Thank you Maria Elena, have signed all petitions and commented. Sanctioned killing of cats is such an abhorrent idea, and I am outraged that it is even being considered. There is far to much abuse of wildlife and domestic animals going on already, and this idea is incredibly stupid.
 

liz c. (842)
Friday March 19, 2010, 11:07 am
Thank you Maria. One petition signed. I can not sign petitions with Change.org. Letters will be sent.
 

Cheree M. (249)
Friday March 19, 2010, 11:40 am
Petitions Signed & fwd as well as email letters sent. VERY,VERY SICK & this REALLY REALLY ANGERS & DISGUST ME. TY Maria.
 

Cheree M. (249)
Friday March 19, 2010, 11:41 am
You cannot currently send a star to Maria Elena because you have done so within the last week.
 

Janine Boguslawski (95)
Friday March 19, 2010, 11:51 am
They have got to be kidding.What bigshot politician cam up with this one to kiss whos hiennie?This is the theater of the absurd.And Im not watching.
 

Amber B. (5)
Friday March 19, 2010, 12:31 pm
this is wrong on so many levels, only the most ignorant of buffoons couldn't see that.
 

Sakura L. (41)
Friday March 19, 2010, 12:52 pm
why do ppl kill pets?!
 

Elaine Dixon (17)
Friday March 19, 2010, 1:08 pm
Makes me sick seems like cats get the bad rap all the time and it makes me angry and why more isn't done to protect them..
 

Brigitte H. (35)
Friday March 19, 2010, 1:23 pm
Noted & signed petition earlier.
 

NoEmailsPls W. (95)
Friday March 19, 2010, 2:42 pm
Signed petition. Thank you Maria.
 

. (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:07 pm
Petition Signed
 

. (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:10 pm
This is awful!! noted and signed. Thank you Maria
 

gail dair (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:36 pm
action taken thanks
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:40 pm
Another petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/435801151
 

Sharon Balloch (132)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:43 pm
signed... scary.. what next, are the homeless starting to look like target practise?
 

Cathy L. (12)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:52 pm
Scary stuff.
 

liz c. (842)
Friday March 19, 2010, 3:55 pm
New petition signed also. Thank you again Maria.
 

Tammy Smith (74)
Friday March 19, 2010, 4:24 pm
Are they fricken nuts??? This is horrific, inexcusable & should be unacceptable!! Petitions signed!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 4:47 pm
Hunting CATS??!!?? They definitely ARE nuts! If they go ahead with it, we can certainly make them look like the idiots they are.
 

Pamela H. (64)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:14 pm
Where's the petition?
 

Pamela H. (64)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:20 pm
I think we should start up a Good-Ole-Boy hunting season. I can just see one mounted on a wall, complete with beer-soaked flannel check shirt.
 

Odin Torchwood (45)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:22 pm
S'il vous plait créent un petition pour signée!
 

Odin Torchwood (45)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:25 pm
Ooops! I finds it and signed already, Ooops! J'ai trouvée et dejás signé.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (599)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:26 pm
Thank you for signing “Stop New Jersey from legalizing the hunting of cats!”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cristina,
thank you, on behalf of the 50 million + cats in this
country (the U.S.) for posting this petition.
God Bless you!
 

Susan D. (116)
Friday March 19, 2010, 5:47 pm
Sickening and horrific idea. Why do Americans keep coming up with such? I don't get it. All of the Americans I know are decent people. What stones do the likes of Wolgast crawl out from?

I tried to send the email to the Ethics Liaison Officer-- but I got an error message- - not a valid email address-- has anyone else had this trouble? Went to the website and sent Gov. Christie a message:

"I was horrified to hear that the state of New Jersey is even considering the possibility, of considering to classify cats as a wildlife species.

Surely everyone in New Jersey is completely aware that cats are not wildlife, but rather, have been domesticated by man for many thousands of years, for mutual benefit? It would be sheer ignorance to be unaware of this fact! (There are no doubt many vested interests who would like to pretend that cats are wildlife, and therefore fair game, such The Fish & Game Council, which is abusing its discretion and defying the will of the people of NJ by trying to ban all cats from being outdoors, by trying to prohibit Trap-Neuter-Return and by allowing cats to be shot.)

The reason that the cat became domesticated is because felines are unsurpassed at keeping vermin under control. There are more rats than humans now, so it is good that cats are out there killing rats, would you agree? As for killing songbirds, while some cats do kill birds, (not all do) they do not cause as much damage as predator birds such as magpies, which prey upon adult birds as well as raiding nests until there are no eggs left. Humans also are responsible for the loss of songbirds, as not only do humans destroy habitat e.g. for construction of houses etc, but also birds living near noise such as a road, cannot make the right songs for getting a mate, so numbers fall. I am sure you are already aware of these facts.

The Trap / Neuter/ Return programs that exist to keep cats ' numbers down, and hopefully in the end make every cat an owned cat, do a marvellous job, with most of the cats being adopted and only a small amount of them being returned. The people doing TNR save a large amount of taxpayers' money in the process. TNR is endorsed by all leading animal welfare organizations and practiced in over 100 NJ municipalities and should be encouraged, not suppressed

The reason that there are feral cats, homeless through no fault of their own, is that not all owners neuter their cats, and so cause a proliferation in numbers. These people either dump their cat, or dump the kittens, or both. Killing the poor unfortunate cats is not the answer-- education, together with a cheap, low-cost spay/neuter program, readily available, would be a very good answer.

I look forward to your reply, (etc)"

Signed the petition and now forwarding it to any friends not already on this comment list. (By the way, only just got this, as my interent has been down, and may be again-- connection probs). Thanks Maria.

 

Gabriela G. (76)
Friday March 19, 2010, 6:23 pm
I've a garden. I've four cats. I've two dogs. None of them have killed any bird, songbird or otherwise. I absolutelly agree with Anne. In Mexico a "person" suggested they - cats - should be killed because they kill the squirrels in the park. I feed the feral cats in this park so I took it really personal. I've yet to find a dead squirrel killed by a cat (talk about absurd), but I've unfortunatelly found plenty of dead cats, killed either by idiots or idiots who let their big dogs off leash. Absurd.
 

Cristina S. (338)
Friday March 19, 2010, 6:35 pm
TY, Maria ! 2nd petition signed!
 

Mandi T. (421)
Friday March 19, 2010, 7:11 pm
Signed petitions, shared and posted on F.B.
TY Maria
 

Stephanie S. (43)
Friday March 19, 2010, 7:19 pm
This is completely ridiculous. Cats should be treated right whether they have owners or not.
 

Sheryl A. (3)
Friday March 19, 2010, 7:21 pm
How anyone can think that reclassifying cats as "wildlife" will curb the feral cat population is living under a rock. Have they considered the outcry they'll have to deal with when their constituency realizes their beloved feline companions have fallen victim to this idiotic classification? Not to mention that it's just cruel to attempt to control feral cats this way. All they have to do is let rescue groups continue their TNR programs. TNR works!! And it saves countless kitty lives.
 

Jaette Carpenter (20)
Friday March 19, 2010, 7:49 pm
And how would these bozos with guns ever be able to tell someones loose housecat from a ferel? Not that it should matter, but it would to the owner of the 'pet'
 

April Schulte (11)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:29 pm
I'm really beginning to wonder about so-called "educated" people. Mr. Blumig, I'm sure went to college as did the others in authority to enact this barbaric law. So why don't these people understand the their feral cat issue is the end result of....IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS!!!! The cats are just doing what cats do when left to their own devices. If New Jersey's is really neck deep in feral cats, then why don't they pass a law requiring cat owners to show proof of spay or neuter? For people who rent, all it would take is for all property owners/managers to add the proof of spay/neuter as a requirement to their rental applications. For the ferals they already have, keep on with the TNR program. Did these idiots know that there is an oral birth control for felines that help while the TNR is in process. It's called "FeralStat". It boils down to the fact that these officials are lazy and cat haters. IT'S A PEOPLE PROBLEM!!!
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:50 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Linda M. (0)
Friday March 19, 2010, 9:52 pm
deplorable
 

Kerstin Strobl (330)
Friday March 19, 2010, 10:54 pm
Unbelieveable
 

kaye whelpton (38)
Friday March 19, 2010, 11:44 pm
SHAME ON YOU JANET VREELAND. Cats are domestic pets not game. When feral cat colonies appear it is because of the negligence of humans. SHOOTING IS NOT THE ANSWER OR TRAPPING OR EATING THEM OR SKINNING THEM FOR FUR. Why don't you use a radical new approach called spay and neuter. Then they can't reproduce. Or is that just to easy.
 

Hanny Smith (7)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 2:31 am
May I eat them instead?
 

Ada P. (25)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 3:08 am
that's just freacking sick! what will be next-eating homless?
 

Julija M. (2)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 3:49 am
people are sick, just because something is wild or homeless it doesn't give you the right to kill it!
noted
 

Mike M. (55)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 4:47 am
It is hard to believe that with all the problems in today's world that someone would think killing feral cats is something that needs to be done. Sound like a scam to make money on other peoples fears while exercising someones sick fantasy .
 

EcoWorrier M I A MoonWalk Again (969)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 4:59 am
people are sick, just because something is wild or homeless it doesn't give you the right to kill it! jULIJA m. SAID. agreed. MANY HUMANS ARE WILD EVEN IN DOMESTIC SITUATIONS, SHOULD THERE BE THE SAME TREATMENT?
WRONG KILLING. WRONG WRONG WRONG!
 

EcoWorrier M I A MoonWalk Again (969)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 5:00 am
SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.
 

EcoWorrier M I A MoonWalk Again (969)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 5:01 am
SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.SOMEONE PLEEEEESE PLEASE PLEASE COLLECT THESE COMMENTS WITH A PETITION AGAINST THIS DECISION TO KILL ANIMALS.
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 6:07 am
HANNY SMITH--DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT YOUR COMMENT PLEASE???? I WANT TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR COMMENT MEANT......
 

Jenny O. (0)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 6:40 am

Thank you - I have signed!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 7:32 am
Like someone else said here, someone behind this has a vested interest.
No way society in the U.S. would go for shooting strays for meat or fur etc.

And of course you will always find HUNTERS ready and willing and slobbering at the idea of shooting/killing anything if they can. (not all but most IMO)
 

Amy C. (0)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 9:02 am
This is disturbing, disgusting, horrifying and a million other bad things.
I hope and pray that this doesn't become legal.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 9:56 am
I looked up Vreeland, all they ever talk in the council according to the minutes, is about the number of animals that can be killed (deer, what not)and who gets the lottery for permits...now they want to add cats to those numbers.
Council member Leonard Wolgast was the sponsor of the resolution and has brought the issue of feral cats up at several council meetings. Some animal activists have questioned whether he should be allowed to participate in such discussions at all because he is listed as owner of the East Brunswick property where Blumig Kennel, which they say is owned and operated by his wife's family, is located. That kennel contracts with several communities in Central Jersey to pick up and euthanize cats.
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 10:01 am
Is anyone else a little confused and disturbed by the comment left by Hanny Smith?????
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 10:01 am
And I wonder how cats are euthanized in Blumig kennel
 

Mary Beth M. (5)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 10:39 am
An outrageous solution! Certainly in a civilized society, we can come up with a better plan than this.
 

Mervi R. (74)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 11:13 am
Noted, actions already taken.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 11:37 am
Ambrose, you might eat pork, I don't, and neither do the rest of vegetarians, vegans, jews, muslims, budists, etc...Despite this, a kitty is a kitty, as are doggies and the rest of COMPANIONS. It is way too much with the use and abuse of both domestic farm and wild animals just to satisfy someone's tastebuds and/or vanity, and the suffering of animals in labs for research, and the fun for some assholes to see them suffer and perish.
 

Sakura L. (41)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 11:50 am
noted. thanx
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 12:18 pm
Ambrose--I am curious----why are you in favor of the protection of only apes, dolphins or whales?? What makes the difference between them and other species? You think it is acceptable to eat cat, dog etc.?? Then move to China--you can become as barbaric as they are-in the interim-perhaps this is not the right comment thread for you to be on.......I have flagged your comment as inappropriate--is it ever inappropriate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

chris b. (2474)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 12:44 pm
Liz perhaps it is a measure of relative intelligence on Ambrose's speciometer. whales have a brain five times larger than a whaler, dolphins are now classified as "non human people" because of their social ability and intelligence that surpasses ours and apes to their eternal annoyance are closely related to us! Perhaps he will come back and explain in greater detail and as far as Hanny Smith's remark I take it at face value but maybe her English is not appropriate. I'll stick with the "Brioche" thanks! So Ambrose and Hanny, do please enlighten us further!
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 12:45 pm
Last comment to you Ambrose--you are here only to inflame and annoy. My dogs and cats and other companion animals that I have been lucky enough to be owned by--were all very intelligent--unlike you--be gone from this comment thread. I am flagging your latest comment as inappropriate also. You are an ass-but I have heard that donkeys are intelligent.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 12:51 pm
I would not eat any of them, no roasted babies, either. Cats aswell as pigs are highly intelligent, more so than a lot of people I know. We don't want to be mean, Ambrose, we just want our companions protected from harm. I'm sorry you were tricked into eating cat. Marc G, why Irish Stout...shouldn't it be Tsing Tao? And I always say that one can eat anything, even a turd if it's dipped in a good sauce, but, why would we want to do that?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 12:54 pm
i'm sorry if i annoyed you. take a look at my page and get a better feel for me and cats. they are special to me, but pigs are way too intelligent to be on our dinner plates. i once housebroke a pig at three weeks old. look deep into their eyes and you will see understanding.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:04 pm
Pigs are wonderful creatures, and I suffer for the daily mass murder of them, their lives are reduced to nothing, their pain ignored, but we're comparing one problem with a totally different issue. And what do we feel when we look into a cat's eyes, other than awe, wonder and joy? We just want to be able to continue to look at them this way. To know they are protected...there's a newspiece about a cat who got kicked by some ass and now has only one eye, but if they find who did this, the ass will supposedly be punished. If New Jersey stops protecting cats, this will be the daily case and there will be nothing we can do about it but "street justice"!!!!!
 

Donn M. (56)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:08 pm
I think reclassifying cats as wildlife in order to hunt them is a bad idea. Cats are an exotic species (as are horses, Pam) neither is native and are not wildlife. I'd like to know how hunters would distinguish between feral cats and pet cats. They are right, thought, in their desire to decrease the feral cat population.

Liz, Ambrose has not said anything worth flagging. He has a right to express an opinion, just like you do.
 

Alison S. (70)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:10 pm
Hunting domestic cats? WTF?
 

Robyn L. (80)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:11 pm
Spoke out, signed and noted! Thanks Maria!
 

Jennifer B. (5)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:20 pm
This is awful. What happens if someone's pet cat gets out, get lost and is mistaken for one that they deem feral? And that's not including the fact that they're living, breathing animals.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:25 pm
Donni, instead of coming up with ridiculous favors to the f'n hunters and $$ for Blumig Kennel, maybe concentrate in the actually EFFECTIVE TNR sistem, and punishing abandonment so there aren't so many...besides, cats being the natural plague vaccine!!!!
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:26 pm
And companions, not prey
 

Val R. (230)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 1:38 pm
I used to have an outdoor cat but for specific reasons she had to become an indoor cat, but as someone said - how do others know if they're ferrel or not. And anyway, I believe that if more people could manage their cats with affordable shots, etc (sometimes free), we wouldn't have ferrel cats. But in any case - we in this country don't need to eat cat, use their furs, etc. Maybe some countries (I pray not), but there are agencies here to help us. I can't stand the idea that NJ wants to allow the killing of cats!
 

Nicole Gilbert (8)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 2:04 pm
As has already been stated, pet cats should be kept indoors for many reasons.
This is just appalling and ridiculous. I don't think it will pass. If it did, they'd be overwhelmed with animal lovers descending on them.
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 2:37 pm
Donni--as I said-if you would read what I said-is that for anyone to say that they would eat thousands of cats-it is inappropriate on a comment thread that is about protecting cats from being hunted. Do you understand now??You are entitled to have opinions but not to annoy and piss people off......and I personally think that ANYONE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD EAT CAT AND DOG-IS A MONSTER........
 

Frank Pickens (126)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 3:13 pm
Maybe we should just let New Jersey fall into the Atlantic afeter we confiscate all their animals. Talk about a group that is like the 3 headed Hydra, Politicians, Hunters, Fish & Game..put them all together and you get IDIOT STEW. Get a feakin life you mrons, Cats are domesticated Animals and family Pets, we are not South Korea yet. No wonderwhy our world is down the tubes some idiot comes up with an idea like this and finds more Political idiots tog along with it..Finding Political Idiots is easy of course. What a screwed mindset people have. Instead of problem solving once again it KILL< KILL
 

catresea C. (414)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 4:18 pm
For a legislative body to even consider such a idea is so absurd it's hard to believe they're serious. But politicians aren't necessarily known for their sharp brains or warm hearts so let's make sure this moronic plan is stopped FAST!
 

Lindi L. (19)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 5:39 pm
Crazy.
 

Mark G. (36)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 6:21 pm
Donni,
Opinions are not allowed on this thread - unless they are Liz's of course.
Discussion not welcomed.

By the way killing feral and non-native animals on your own property is legal in most states. Feral cats are one of the most destructive NON-NATIVE animals around. People put cats out in rural areas all the time where they breed and destroy native animals - especially birds. On our property we do not shoot them. We have a dog named JR who kills them when he comes across them. They will absolutely devour quail if left alone.
 

liz c. (842)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 6:48 pm
They are domesticated animals without a home. Are there any more petitions Maria?? Any more addresses for emails??
 

Carol V. (28)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 9:49 pm
Holy cat fish, no pun intended. This sure did get a lot of response. I have cats and have had them all my life. They have always been indoors and sometimes that made me feel guilty however, they have been healthier and happier and ALIVE and have died from natural causes, not human causes. Keep your cats inside.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Saturday March 20, 2010, 10:36 pm
It is not legal to kill cats anywhere in the USA, that means that in spite of you disliking them, the worst you can LEGALLY DO, whether in your property or not, is to trap and relocate them, or take them to a shelter or call Animal Control. Cats are free to roam as their nature intends, and fortunately the law protects this (somewhat )in the USA and civilized countries.. If one has a dog in their possession that kills other animals and it is reported, you might get a visit from Animal Control, as you would if a child came in your land and was killed by your animal, so I wouldn't bragg about such thing and maybe be considerate and try to avoid a fellow earthling's suffering, as it is in your hands.
 

Sharen B. (69)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 12:02 am
If people would keep cats inside where they belong, the feral cat population would start to be reduced, and things like this maybe would not come to light. Come on, gone are the days when kitty was let out all night. now, they get on peoples cars, make messes in yards, and people get mad, because of the irresponsible pet owners. So, hopefully this will be forgotten about, and people will actually start to be better cat owners.
 

Sakura L. (41)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 5:54 am
say not to cat slaughter! ;D
 

liz c. (842)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 6:43 am
I am shocked at the negative cat comments. I have had the joy of having cats in my life-and they have sweet dispositions and are just looking for love(like the rest of us) and people to feed and take care of them. I did not know that everyone didnt view cats and kitties the same way that I do. Apart from this-I cant imagine New Jersey being allowed to get away with this-but then I think of the seal hunt in Canada-and no matter what the people in this Country and out of this Country say--they are being ignored. This is a very important issue with these cats in New Jersey--I hope that everyone realizes this.
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 7:27 am
Feral cats are not all caused by people not keeping their cat's indoors most are the result of people being unwilling or ignorant of the need to neuter cats in the domestic setting! Then of course when unwanted kitties arrive they just dump them sometimes mum and all wherever tossed out of cars dumped in thhe countryside etc. Then of course the problem starts to escalate as the dumped cats keep reproducing, The only effective way to deal with feral cats is to enact strict TNR programmes first on the cats and then on the feral owners who likely breed in the same manner as the cats they have dumped!
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 7:56 am
As for cats not being a native of America one could say the same thing about the white men who brought them over from England etc. When the Pilgrim Fathers gathered their stuff from the Lincolnshire area of the UK and sailed out of Boston they took with them around 25 cats and no doubt the group that left Plymouth gathered more cats along with livestock and dogs etc. Thus it is safe to say the bulk of both the the cat and white human population is descended from very few individuals and their multitude of offspring with of course further importations down the years. It is also highly likely that the Spanish cats escaped from their ships or accompanied their earlier expeditions so cats have been around sufficiently long to be as native as the white man! No doubt some First Nation Americans have similar sentiments to the non native invasive white man as some of the white men have toward cats!
 

Elaine W. (103)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 9:36 am
Hanny Smith........what ??????
Trigger happy hunters. Nothing is safe. All owners in the neighbourhood need to keep their cats safe indoors. Horrid business.
 

Les M. (5)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 11:20 am
i'm still having a hard time believing this story. how can anyone believe a cat is an exotic animal? the catch, fix, and release program has been proven to work. i hope new jersey residents support this practice and the feral cat issue will become a minor irritant. i have family in nj and will be forwarding them this article.
 

Leia P. (7)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 11:42 am
nO!!!
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 12:07 pm
When you read the article, it explains Vreeland has been pushing this in favor of hunters since 2007, this Wolgast was the sponsor of the resolution and has brought the issue of feral cats up at several council meetings. Some animal activists have questioned whether he should be allowed to participate in such discussions at all because he is listed as owner of the East Brunswick property where Blumig Kennel, which they say is owned and operated by his wife's family, is located. That kennel contracts with several communities in Central Jersey to pick up and euthanize cats
 

Donn M. (56)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 12:27 pm
Ah, yes Chris, but Native Americans are descendents of immigrants, also.

Liz, what I understand is that even people who would eat cats have a right to express that opinion. It should be some comfort to you to see that only one or two people have expressed that opinion. I want to know why that is acceptable to them, and I can not find out why if they can't express it here. And we are allowed to express our revulsion to that idea.

It isn't hunters who are pushing this issue, kitty cats aren't really high on the big game list. It is people who want to conserve our native wildlife, and birds in particular. TNR has some value for reducing the feral cat population, but it doesn't work fast enough for preserving bird populations that are in immediate danger.

Mark, yes it is true that people already shoot stray cats, or use other means. We live rather out of the way, so only see about 1 stray a year, they sometimes hang around for awhile, but eventually move on.

 

Donn M. (56)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 12:30 pm
Tim, I think it's wonderful that you've given a home to 11 cats. Now, what kind of litter are you using?
 

Thomas Klein (10)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 1:19 pm
how crazy can human be?
 

liz c. (842)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 2:44 pm
Maria--is there anything else that can be done--I have also forwarded this to everyone I can think of. Do you know the purpose of Blumig Kennel other than euthanizing cats? Kennel licence for what? Are there any calls that I can make? American government officials dont want a Canadians opinion-but can I call the kennel and get information???
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 3:53 pm
I think the Native American migrations if indeed they actually occurred as some have described via the land bridge that existed between the continents are likely to have been the first ever migrations and considerably predate by some 20 or 30 thousand years or more the recent invasions of the whiteman and his cat's! The kennels is described on the web Goggle it in in here is one site: http://www.localanimalshelters.net/blumigkennel-animal-shelter-1517-East-Brunswick-ci-New-Jersey.html There sems to be another petition attached!
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 3:59 pm
Donni M If it is OK for cat eaters or cat haters to make comments on a thread speaking out against cat hunting etc, I assume by the same token you would find it OK for peodophiles, wife beaters, rapists, murderers etc to offer contrary comment on a thread condemning their activities!
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 4:06 pm
Returning to the migrant theme there is no evidence the migrating first nations invaded by force of arms or displaced anyone when and if they migrated to America Unlike the white ivasions which brought death and disease along with booze and guns not a lot has changed since the first whiteman set foot on America they still want to kill with guns! The current demand in NJ just adds a cats to the list of targets!
 

liz c. (842)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 4:54 pm
Thank you very much Chris.
 

liz c. (842)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 4:59 pm
Mark--I find your cat recipe very offensive and I am hoping that it will be deleted. And with your further comments-I do not believe that you meant it as a joke......
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 5:06 pm
Liz, I'll be sending out anything I find. I want to know what ends up happening, with the genius idea at hand AND if there'll be anything against that Wolgast guy...if there isn't maybe we can all stirr something up, as he doesn't need to be anything in a public position when he has interests vested in it...maybe ALF is on it, maybe there's a protest coming up, maybe they can these asses when they wake up; if not something should happen!
 

liz c. (842)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 5:32 pm
Thank you Maria.
 

cassandra toney (28)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 6:31 pm
Ambrose, i will have you know that cats are very intelligent animals too.So, if it's not right to eat a pig,because of their intelligence, than what makes it right to eat a cat,when they are no less intelligent? So twist it around and make it seem ok to eat the cat because he's less intelligent than the pig.Gimme a break for God sake.
 

Donn M. (56)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 7:18 pm
Chris, everyone in the US has a right to free speech, even vile people. Although the people you mentioned are all engaged in illegal activities, whereas cat hating is not, and I'm not sure if cat eating is illegal. The first migrations would have been from wherever man first evolved, and they would have happened way before the first Americans arrived here, probably from out of Africa. It's true there is no evidence that the Natives displaced anyone, although they displaced and killed each other a lot as their populations increased. They were actually quite lucky to have lived isolated for so many centuries, unlike the people who lived in Europe, northern Africa and Asia.
 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 7:54 pm
Doni, It's not illegal to hate people other than our own race either, it's illegal to act upon it. "Primitive" type of humans eat their own dead, their enemies, but in the 4th world if I may ( and whether you like it or not, China is both "modern" and extremely "primitive" at the same time, they'll eat whatever moves, maybe that's why they're being punished by the higher ones and Karma with their own miserable existence everyday). It doesn't matter either who got here or there first, there is what there is, and globally, the human race has solely acted like a cancer to the planet, being responsible for the decay of the planet we step on, like Atilla's horse, we are responsible for the daily extinction of species throughout history, and the daily pain and massacre of hunted animals AND farm animals, not to mention labs. It is the minimum thing we can do for forgiveness when we protect animals, such as cats,especially after the symbiotic relationship between us of them protecting us from plagues, and their friendship, the happiness they can bring; I love birds, but birds and rodents are a part of the foodchain for felines, canids, reptiles and larger birds, whereas by nature, humans are omnivores where the meat is supposed to be herbivores, NOT CARNIVORES, so those who are forced to eat cats are freaks within our species.
 

chris b. (2474)
Sunday March 21, 2010, 11:34 pm
Donni you seem to have missed my point that making statemnets diliberatly contrary to the thrust of the post is an egregious perversion of free speech! And as I understnd it cat killing is currently illegal in the form that the proposed legislation seeks to reverse.Freedom in any form carries with it responsibility, those who use it irresponsibly devalue it! Care2 is not a vehicle for promoting the illegal or violence of any kind. Hiding behind the free speech card is as fraudulent as those that that hide their cruelty, depravity, violence,etc behind the religion, tradition, cultural or any other convenient card!
 

Donn M. (56)
Monday March 22, 2010, 12:16 am
But Chris, I don't think that giving contrary opinions is a perversion at all. There are reasons why these people are considering this law, shouldn't discussion go a bit deeper than just echoing the sentiment that it's bad to hunt cats? Or eat cats? I understand what you are saying, but I disagree with the limits you set on free speech. Those who come on a post and make deliberately inflamatory statements just to be contrary are easy to spot and easy to ignore. I'm not interested in them, if they are truly vile or obscene they will be flagged and removed. But if someone really believes it is ok to hunt or eat cats, then I want to know why they think this way.
 

chris b. (2474)
Monday March 22, 2010, 1:31 am
I really don't think knowing what perverse motivation drives a person to want to kill cats informs the debate any more than hearing why a peodophile does what he or she does! The concept of such behaviours is as far as the majority of civilised people are concerned equally repugnant and require no guidebook to determine there unwholesome ammoral or immoral reality! So I will pose the question again for you. Does knowing why anyone does something inform us as to the wrongness of their action, be it cat killing or abusing children! Knowing right from wrong is something one should have instructed ones offspring in from an early age. The fact that some consider what the majority consider wrong to be right does not make it so!
 

Peggy A. (111)
Monday March 22, 2010, 5:11 am
Why do you good,animal loving people keep answering Donnie and Mark.We are here to do good and will never stop trying to help animals-all animals.They just want to "rattle your chains" and you continue giving them pleasure by replying to them.We have a lot of good ,important work to do in animal welfare and should not waste our valuable time giving answers to their negative comments.
I checked Hanny's profile and I think her comment was taken wrong.She has a cat and is an animal lover.When she said about 'eating them" she meant the idiots wanting to kill the cats by hunting them.
Going back to those answering the negative comments-your answers were great
 

pam M. (98)
Monday March 22, 2010, 2:07 pm
I fully agree with Pastor Tim. I have always kept my cats indoors. We've purchased a fence for the backyard so they can have the run of the backyard. I don't like my cats roaming the great outdoors, because

1. evil morons will pick on them and use them for target practice.
2. their predatory nature compels them to kill. My cats have the run of my house and I don't want them crawling on my furniture or bed with blood from God knows what, garbage, fleas and disease.

3. I use the indoor cat products and they work great

The New Jerseyians, are evidence that the neanderthal truly is not dead. Feral cats can be a handful but this is not the way to resolve the issue. More cat owners need to take responsiblity for their cats. Too many allow cats to roam, which can be dangerous and distructive. Cats love to tear up flower beds, walk on autos and get into things. If you're too lazy to walk your dog (with a scooper) and too lazy to clean litter boxes then you have no business owning a pet.

 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Monday March 22, 2010, 3:27 pm
The only reason they want to legalize cat hunting is to make legal what they are already doing, and to shoot their neighbors cats and say:-Oh, I thought it was wild!
 

cassandra toney (28)
Monday March 22, 2010, 7:02 pm
If it is legalized there will be repercussions,they will see,someone will get hurt sooner or later.
 

Donn M. (56)
Monday March 22, 2010, 10:18 pm
Peggy, you are right about Hanny's comment, however I challenge you to show anything in my comments that is negative. The issue at hand is how to stop the massive predation by feral cats. It's the conservationists versus the cat lovers. It's TNR vs. hunting cats. Both are crappy solutions to the problem, one is inhumane to the cats, one is inhumane to the birds.
 

Julie van Niekerk (230)
Tuesday March 23, 2010, 3:50 am
I am in so much agony to hear about animal abuse, that all I now can do is to ask for Heaven to Help. Why must animals suffer so much, it is not fair towards animals. We as humans are raping this planet from its beauty.
 

Jeanette Steffi G. (189)
Tuesday March 23, 2010, 5:19 am
Fashion is nice. it defines your personality as an individual. I like styling and mixing new ideas together to show that "this is me." But when fashion uses animals, big or small, wild or tame, domesticated or not to the industry. That's where I draw the line. WEAR YOUR OWN DAMN SKIN.

I have a cat. if I saw him made into a garment, a carpet or whatever sick thing humans have created, I'd kill them these careless murderers barehanded. These cats deserve no such thing. To be abused, neglected then killed for their beauty, no cat, young or old, whatever breed they are, never deserve anything like this.

They say humans are the superior species because they can tell what's right from wrong. But their intent to choose to do the wrong thing makes them inferior to all those who do not.

So, if you ask me, animals are higher than us.

 

Maria Elena Gonzalez (299)
Tuesday March 23, 2010, 9:21 am
I am an earthling, I am both conservationist, and a catlover, in fact an animal lover; a true conservationist would let things go naturally as they are, as the planet evolves. The problem is that the human race tries to fix things to their own convenience
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Tuesday March 23, 2010, 1:04 pm
TY, Henriette for sending my way! I SEND YOU GREEN STARS for your post, as I know how dedicated you are! This is beyond my brain even having a response ! I can't even make an intelligent sentence, as I'm disgusted beyond all...... Yes, it's true...my next door neighbor has his gun ready to shoot the young, lone coyote who is staying in my yard. I have ferral cats that taunt him, as he is as young and naive, and has lost his pack. He'll kill anything {the neighbor, not the coyote}, as he's beat the XXXX out of his child, wife, and dog. I've called every authority I can, but to no avail.....Wow, this article got my dander up!!!
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Tuesday March 23, 2010, 1:07 pm
Please forgive me...My deepest thankX to Maria Elena!!!
 

Brittany S. (12)
Thursday March 25, 2010, 6:41 pm
This is terrible not you but the artile its so sad. It makes me mad. Thank you for informing us so we can try to put a stop to it.
 

Jean Lord (46)
Wednesday March 31, 2010, 7:13 pm
And they call us civilized.
 

Jean Lord (46)
Thursday April 8, 2010, 7:26 pm
I live in New Jersey and I can't believe the stupidity of our law makers. I'm ashamed to say that I come from this state. Gov. Christie made all kinds of promises when he replaced Jon Corizine. All BS promises, I'm sure.
 

Cindy C. (125)
Tuesday July 13, 2010, 2:14 pm
OH MY GOODNESS ME WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH THE POOR CATS AWW I AM SO SORRY FOR THEM. ITS TOTALLY NOT FAIR THE POOR THINGS.
 

liz c. (842)
Tuesday July 13, 2010, 8:25 pm
all these months later--I still look at your comments and have to wonder if you have something seriously wrong with you Donni. I believe it is bizarre that you just want to argue-you are a very inane individual and your comments were not worth writing. Maybe you and Ambrose should get together--he can cook cat and maybe someone else could roast a bird or two------Keep the recipes-sick people would pay a lot of money for them.......
 

liz c. (842)
Tuesday July 13, 2010, 8:44 pm
Maria--do you know how all of this in New Jersey turned out????I would love some follow up information if anyone has some.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 13, 2010, 8:01 am
noted
 

Katherine B. (32)
Wednesday October 6, 2010, 12:43 pm
Responsibility and sensitivity is imperative in those ADULTS creating our laws. These were once domestic animals that insensitive, irresponsible ADULTS abandoned, and did not spay and neuter. That does not give these same ADULTS the right to shoot and kill them for a pleasure sport! Our world is STARVING for an ounce of empathy, and this is how we guide our children? This mystifies me when there are so many involved in compassionate TNR. Please give more tax dollars to your TNR programs NJ!
Thank you for the informative information. All leads will be followed....
 

rosemary weston (1)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 7:46 am
does anyone know what happened with that insane proposal...imo? it didn't pass, did it?
 
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