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LEST WE FORGET - Israel Admits Killing 189 Children in Gaza Campaign


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: USA, israel state terrorism-war crimes )

David
- 201 days ago - telegraph.co.uk
Israel's armed forces admitted that 189 Palestinian children under the age of 15 were killed during the assault on the Gaza Strip.



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John Holton (359)
Monday February 10, 2014, 4:18 am
S and N
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Monday February 10, 2014, 7:28 am
Sadly noted.....189 too many.
 

Chaz Berlusconi (72)
Monday February 10, 2014, 10:09 am
sadly it is always civilians that get caught up in the middle it happens everywhere....
 

GGmaSheila D. (164)
Monday February 10, 2014, 12:50 pm
Forwarded this with a few questions...Where's the outrage? Where's the petitions to stop taxpayer funding of child-killers?? Why has this been allowed to go on so long...Israel is supposedly an ally of the US - speaks loudly to what our government and military stands for doesn't it??? Make sure to post the petition, and any others found to this site...
Can't currently give David another star, but he deserves it for the timely, and thought provoking, articles he brings out. Thanks.
 

daryl bishop (305)
Monday February 10, 2014, 1:02 pm
we must never forget
 

Ben B. (39)
Monday February 10, 2014, 2:42 pm
"The IDF's survey of the casualties in Gaza found that 1,370 Palestinians were killed in the campaign, which began on Dec 27 after years of rocket fire into Israel's southern cities. Of these, some 600 were guerrillas and another 320 were unidentified and designated simply as "unaffiliated"....The IDF defines anyone under the age of 15 as a child and admits that 189 were killed."

I found the above quote, from the article, to be of interest in this story.

It is terrible that any children, or indeed any civilians, were killed.

Unfortunately however, there are civilian deaths in every conflict or war zone. Some are inflicted deliberately like the Nazi bombing of London, or the British bombing of Dresden in WWII, or IRA bombing attacks in Belfast or London, or Hamas bombing attacks on Israeli buses, which killed both Israeli Jews and Arabs, both Moslem and Christian.

In other conflicts civilian casualties, while always regrettable, are incidental to the target of an attack, i.e. they aren't the actual target of the attack, but die in the cross-fire.

Naturally the issue of civilian deaths during war or other armed conflicts is always an emotionally laden one, whether they are deliberately targeted or incidental casualties, and the justifications for fighting will never be acceptable to everyone; however, would any nation on Earth tolerate " years of rocket fire into [it's] southern cities" without any response?
 

Vivian B. (153)
Monday February 10, 2014, 2:57 pm
It is a sad day when children are the ones being killed in the middle of a war!
 

Christine Stewart (131)
Monday February 10, 2014, 3:17 pm
Sadly, the US kills many civilians and especially children with our inept drone strikes....
 

Abo r. (101)
Monday February 10, 2014, 4:29 pm
Thanks David , Noted.
Sure will never forget these days of the IDF ATTACK to GAZA, borders are completely closed , no food no milk, no drugs and treatments, it is so frightening F16 , Military Helucabters are firing everywhere ... Shouting from sea too housesare destructed over the residents ...etc
 

. (0)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:06 pm
That's horrible! Those children did not deserve to die. Thanks for sharing, David.
 

jess b (24)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:16 pm
Shame!!Murderers!
 

jess b (24)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:21 pm
End U.S. military 'aid' to Israel. Stop sending arms to Israel!
 

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Vicky P. (463)
Monday February 10, 2014, 5:55 pm
bunch of murderers, even if they weren't kids, it's still wrong. That whole state shouldn't even be.
 

David B. (38)
Monday February 10, 2014, 6:36 pm
Why does the world turn a blind eye to Israeli atrocities?
 

Walter Firrth (64)
Monday February 10, 2014, 8:11 pm
I may be wrong but I feel there is an strong anti Israel bias in this post and comments.Someone has suggested giving David a star I suggest giving a packet of antacids to relieve the bitterness in his body and soul..We all abhor the killing of children and their mothers.A lot of Jewish children and their mothers have been killed by by the fanatics firing rockets over the border.What no comments about that?
 

GGmaSheila D. (164)
Monday February 10, 2014, 9:13 pm
Everyone, please flag the spammers...Thanks.
 

Stan B. (124)
Monday February 10, 2014, 11:51 pm
I don't suppose the deaths of these children had anything to do with the fact that Hamas thugs and its affiliates deliberately placed their rocket launchers and heavy weapons in schools and hospitals.
The big difference between the two sides in this conflict is that the Israelis go out of their way to minimise civilian casualties whilst the Palestinians do their best to maximise them.
Green star on its way to you Bioods. Your posts and the spammers are the only ones worth reading.
Are you the same David B who had Hitler as his avatar and got booted off Care 2?
 

ewoud k. (73)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:23 am
There's a war going on over there, we discussed that elsewhere, here we just discuss 'just' the fact that 189 children were killed during the Gaza-campaign.

'Clean wars' don't exist, real bullets, rockets and shells kill. Don't get me wrong, I don't say this to minimize or justify the(se) killings, it's just a mere explanation.

The conflict going on over there is too complicated to say anything else here than 'sadly noted', like was done above.

We should never forget.
 

Abo r. (101)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:52 am
reported the spam
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Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:21 am
The whole situation is incredibly sad. As John Lennon said, "War is over if you want it". NB: AF, I totally agree with you. Spammers on a post like this??!! For goodness sake!!! Some people have no shame. Keep flagging them.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:28 am
By the way, I would like to make it clear that I am NOT anti Israel. I've read some comments on this thread that I find offensive, but people are entitled to their own opinions. I am anti war and anti cruelty. I am not anti any state or country.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:33 am
Well put Stan B. Green star coming your way.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:38 am
Well said Boods. A green star is on the way to you too. Care2 is becoming more and more like facebook. How sad to see hate mongering on here. I left facebook gladly. Best thing I ever did. I hope I won't have to leave Care2 too as well...
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:42 am
Self correction... Care2 as well. Not Care2 too as well. The nastiness is getting to me.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 3:46 am
David or is it actually Ahmed or Mohammed – I would like to ask you and others like you on Care2 that find it abhorrent that Jews should have the temerity to fight back when attacked with rockets and suicide bombers. Why pray, are you so one sided in your condemnation of aggression and are fixated on Israel and its right to exist?

Surely David, you as an Australian should know what your neighbouring country of Indonesia has been up to for many years as it seeks aggressively to enlarge its territory to accommodate an ever expanding population. Were you one of those “liberal” Australians who chose to bury your heads in ideological sand when Indonesia attempted to annexe East Timor with the slaughter of an estimated 350,000 people many of whom were children? Given that, I have yet to see a posting by you concerning the present illegal occupation of West Papua (The western half of the New Guinea land mass in case you do not know your geography) by your Indonesian chums that has resulted in the slaughter of 10’s of thousands West Papuan indigenous people many of whom are children - helped by you Australians – no less – David me old cobber! (The United Nations made West Papua a trust territory and the current Indonesian administration is in violation of article 76 of the UN Charter which the General Assembly made UN members subject to when it made resolution 1752 (XVII).)

http://www.culturalsurvival.org/ourpublications/csq/article/west-papua-forgotten-war-unwanted-people

https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/55243

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/indonesia-accused-australian-helicopters-west-papua-genocide

http://www.pmc.aut.ac.nz/pacific-media-watch/west-papua-disturbing-report-reveals-details-about-genocide-highlands-8441

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatlife/8920491/Benny-Wenda-Theres-a-silent-genocide-going-on-in-West-Papua.html

Moving closer to the land of Israel dear David; why no mention by you or other pro-Islam “liberals” of the 30,000 strong illegal occupying force on the island of Cyprus by Turkey (propped up by the USA and the EU). You sat back with a smirk on your gizmo, mate, whilst 1000’s of Turkish citizens were moved (ongoing) to Cyprus to occupy land from which Greek Cypriots were evicted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions_concerning_Cyprus

I see you advertise yourself as very liberal that seems to mean these days that your ideology ignores the plight of dark skinned indigenous “aboriginal” people and non-Muslims whilst vociferously defending Muslims as if that religion is actually synonymous with a race and is teetering on the edge of its survival. Strange brew David!
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (379)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 4:52 am
David, you are spreading hate on a daily basis and are actually getting the exact opposite reaction than the one you crave. Where are your grays? Why all this horrible one sided animosity? We all wish for peace and acceptance, love and coexistence but in this crazy extremist world, it is almost impossible. Care2 was created to promote all these wonderful things, please stop this propaganda, it just makes us all feel terrible and does not make the situation any better.
 

Shil O. (0)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 4:56 am
It is nice to see others worrying about civilian casualties -- If we could only get palestinians to show the same concern about their own, --- but then the occupiers of palestine don't really care unless there are cameras and reporters about -- then Pallywood goes into action
 

Ge M. (217)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 5:43 am
I suppose that the deaths of civilians have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Hamas hides out in the community knowing that Israel is reluctant to hurt non-combatants. I also note that David has never published the other side where Hamas train the Gazan children, from birth, to hate Jews/Israelis from birth and have summer camps for 8 year old children to learn to use weapons to kill Jews which is, by the way, a war crime which is never mentioned anywhere and most especially in the UN.

Golda Meir hit the nail on the head when she said, "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”

David, note the difference of this quote which shows the difference between Jews/Israelis and the Palestinians/Muslims and the second group includes you. You seem to prefer that these children should die than condemn the people that caused their deaths, the Palestinians. Also note that pregnant Palestinian women who visit the Israelis hospitals for free ante-natal care have been known to wear bombs strapped to themselves to blow up the maternity unit. Notice how Palestinians attack Israeli children, they will use snipers to shoot babies in buggies, slip into homes and slit the throats of sleeping children, use suicide bombers on school buses and attack Israeli schools whilst in Palestinian orphanages knowing that the IDF won't respond in case they hurt a Palestinian child.

What a difference and yet you support these disgusting abuses. What kind of person does that?
 

John Holton (359)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 6:05 am
S and N
 

Arielle S. (317)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 6:21 am
I don't think David is spreading hate - I think he is trying to say how idiotic it is for we Americans to be funding a war - any war - and how stupid war is. Innocent people pay the price in any war - I kill one of yours, you kill one of mine and it goes on and on and on and on....
 

Beatrice B. (115)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 8:36 am
Assessments of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict often come down to a simple comparison: How many have been killed on each side. No one disputes that, by this simple calculation, Palestinian deaths outnumber those endured by the Israelis – by a lot. That approach, however, invokes a widely used mathematical idiom: statistics lie.

According to a study by the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, between 2000 and early 2003, nearly 2,000 Palestinians had been killed compared to 750 Israelis. But a closer, more robust look at the numbers uncovers the flaws of that effortless assessment. Indeed, it is clear that these disproportionate death tolls are due to the fact that there are many more Palestinian combatant deaths than Israeli combatant deaths. Palestinians’ rejection of Israelis’ far superior heath care, along with the Palestinians’ use of human-shields, has widely distorted these numbers in favor of the Palestinians.

The most significant problem with a simple death toll is that it includes deaths of combatants (i.e. terrorists, suicide bombers, etc.). If you remove combatants from the equation and only look at noncombatants (innocent civilians), the tables immediately turn in favor of the Israelis.

According to the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, 80% of the Israeli death toll is comprised of innocent civilians. On the Palestinian side, only 45% of those killed are non-combatants. Moreover, 40% of Israelis killed are females, compared with just 5% for Palestinian deaths. The numbers clearly indicate that the Palestinians actually target Israeli noncombatants and females, while Israel focuses solely on those that pose a threat, while at times inadvertently killing innocent civilians.

But even that assessment does not tell the whole story. According to the Jerusalem Post, because “Palestinian medical facilities are unable to treat many of their wounded adequately,” Israel offered the Palestinians their assistance. “The Israeli Health Minister Nissim Dahan has several times offered to treat ‘all Palestinians wounded in the current intifada in Israeli hospitals and at Israeli expense,’ but the Palestinians have not bothered to reply...”

It's hard to understand why the Palestinians would ever opt to reject this offer. But it is likely driven by the Palestinian leadership's understanding that when one of their citizens dies, Israel bears the burden. Motives aside, it is clear that many of the Palestinian noncombatant deaths could have been prevented had they accepted Israel’s gracious offer. Indeed, a significant reason for the disparity in deaths between the Israelis and the Palestinians is due to Israel’s far better health care capabilities.

Moreover, Israel displays a firm commitment to protect innocent life, while Palestinian combatants deliberately target innocent civilians and women, as the data suggests. The Israeli Army has a code of ethics. Israeli soldiers must act “out of recognition of the supreme value of human life," and “do all in [their] power to avoid causing harm to [noncombatants'] lives, bodies, dignity, and property.”

Hamas forces, on the other hand, have been known to surround themselves with innocent civilians, creating human shields, in order to prevent Israel from attacking legitimate military targets. The intention is to tilt public opinion and inflate the number of innocent Palestinians killed by making it impossible for Israel to carry out its missions.

Consider the story of Abu Bilal al-Ja’abeer, told by Ja’abeer himself on Arab television. When Israeli forces targeted his house, they didn’t blindly bomb it. Instead, they alerted Ja’abeer that he had “five minutes to evacuate the house. You and your children.” Ja’abeer proceeded to call in friends and neighbors to form a shield around his house, making it impossible for Israel to carry out its legitimate mission.

This practice, however, is not simply employed as a means of protecting one's private property. Hamas MP Fathi Hammad said in a speech on February 29, 2008, that "For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry ... This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen..." Not only is this method illegal under international law, but Hammad also felt the need to go even further. "We desire death like [the Zionists] desire life," he concluded.

The Israeli army attempts to save the lives of legitimate military targets, and the Palestinians use that as an opportunity to tilt public opinion by causing more Palestinian deaths. The Israeli army should be praised for respecting the rights of all humans, even those who present a legitimate threat to Israel’s national security. Instead, Israel is the primary source of international opposition and is often tagged as the world’s worst human rights violator.

It’s time we not only educate ourselves before simply grasping onto public opinion, but also stop singling out a nation that should actually be passionately praised. Israel has endured vicious, inaccurate criticism throughout its entire history, and those who perpetuate those claims will only find themselves on the wrong side of history.


 

David B. (38)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 10:22 am
Jew-haters like David?
 

David B. (38)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 10:28 am
Ignorance is bliss Patricia? I don't hate Jews but I do hate criminals.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 10:57 am
As if it is not despicable enough to use child as human shields ..

Then they had to compile on top of their despicable treatment of putting their children up as human shields, the despicable behaviour of trying to blame other, the IDF for their evil dreads ..

And if all these piles on to piles of despicable behaviour is not sickening enough, then so many on this thread is piling their antisemitism on to this despicable band wagon too ..

After this comment of mine, I will leave this cesspit thread of despicableness to rot in peace ...as I'm not fond of wasting my time. There is nothing new here, the same old, same old ...

 

Sue H. (1)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 11:11 am
Sadly human beings are not concerned with who they kill or how many they kill all they want to do is kill enough people so they can win any war. Long gone are the times when battles were fought on battlefields. The first casualty of war is usually an innocent, usually a child and until the human race grows up and settles it's disputes by sitting down and talking things out and learning how to compromise innocent people will continue to be slaughtered so one side or the other can win. And still we call ourselves civilized, what an awful joke.
 

Imbar Golt (6)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 11:14 am
How many children from Israel were killed by terrorists? they should not use children as human shields, have you thought of that?
 

David B. (38)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 11:23 am
David, your articles and comments clearly show bias?
 

Patricia Martinez (12)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 11:27 am
Funny that in your mind, only Jews are criminals. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims killing other Muslims apparently is not worthy of comment or submission to this format by you.

The thousands of Palestinians killed by other Muslims don't rate a tear. Only the ones by Israelis.

Your extreme bias on what you submit gives you away. So the statement stands.

Jew-haters like David though would probably be snorting the candy.



 

linda b. (190)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 11:46 am
The loss of any life is devastating but none more so than that of children.
 

Ms Noting Commentator (22)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:03 pm
The comment thread is more interesting than the five-year-old article.

Nowadays, the little Muslim children are being exploited. Their older brothers, relatives and even their parents have them carrying on the fight and sacrificing their lives for the Islamic or Islamic-Palestinian cause.

Several months ago, I posted a photo of a child that died as a Jihadist. I believe he was nine or ten years old. And, a month ago, a young suicide bomber, a little sister of some Muslim army leader, was suppose to sacrifice her life in a situation involving specific instructions from her older brother. She was suspicious enough that she was stopped before she accomplished her mission. I think she was only fourteen years old.

It sort of reminds me of the Vietnam Conflict. The communists were using children for attacking the French and U.S. soldiers.
There is more to this article. Many of the different angles are not being represented.
 

jess b (24)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:05 pm
Bullying and smears speak for themselves. This is not acceptable, as people should know...
Clearly, of no concern to some. Once again, it boomerangs right back, reflecting where real bias exists.
Prejudice and slurs to cover up inconvenient truths, don't change facts. Hate mongering is often a cowardly means to avoid and run from truths one is unwilling to examine or confront.
Bullying, an attempt to control behavior, is not accepted by civil society.
 

jess b (24)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:22 pm
Let's not wag the dog. Not only are their disgusting, inappropriate personal attacks and name calling, but there is, also, an obvious void and lack of compassion expressed about deaths of Palestinian children in many comments.
Nullifying, and attempts to distract and discredit show attitudes and a certain 'mindset' very clearly -
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:47 pm
"Peace: It's not the last goal. It's a common and enduring goal for all Israelis and all Israeli governments - mine included," he added.

But Mr Netanyahu did not go as far as to endorse a two-state solution, which forms the essential foundation for America's plans for a peace settlement. In the past, he has consistently opposed the creation of a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza.

So, what's to say/comment on an article from 2009? Other than Bibi could have said-and does- the same thing still in 2014, just his actions speak to the opposite.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 12:49 pm
I actually find it MORE noteworthy that some here are obviously enjoying the tons of SPAM/ SCAM ads all over the site, -could that be the reason why they just don't get removed? Not even after days, weeks..hm..
 

Sandrea S. (208)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:18 pm
Atrocious!!!

Noted & Tweeted.

Thanks David for article. Thanks Jess for sharing.
 

Freya H. (305)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:45 pm
Yeah, yeah, I hear all the time about Palestinians and Hamas using human shields and putting weapons on inhabited buildings. I would like to see the evidence supporting this claim.

As much as I abhor terrorists and cowards who use cheap tactics, the point is that Israel is committing atrocities. Where are you pro-Zion folks when families of Palestinians are crushed beneath Israeli bulldozers? Those people were not "human shields," they were innocents denied the right to escape with their lives.

For centuries Jews suffered horribly from persecution, and I am sorry about that. However, that does not justify in any way their becoming the persecutors.
 

Evelyn B. (43)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:52 pm
I am against racism in all forms - whether anti-Jewish or anti-Muslim or anti-Christian.
Thanks David for posting this article - sadly, little has changed since the time of its writing ... although some things have:
There is a growing number of IDF soldiers who hate what they are expected to do to Palestinians.
There are growing numbers of Jews - Israeli and other - who are seeing through the propaganda that is used in some of the comments that have been posted here .. They too are saying the abuse of Palestinians is not acceptable, is not in their names .... and they are no more "jew-haters" than is David.
I would suggest that those who don't like reminders like this one that David posted go and watch/listen to Miko Peled, an Israeli whose niece was killed by a suicide bomber, whose father was a famous general ... watch, and think about it, before posting your own hatred ...
An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel
Unfortunately - most of you won't do so ... or will convince yourselves that what he has to say is not true.

David - keep posting! you're on the radar of people who don't want facts to be brought up in the public eye. Their aggressive comments actually show you're doing the right thing!
 

Evelyn B. (43)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:54 pm
Angelika - you're right - Care2 doesn't seem to be acting on spam reports ...
 

jess b (24)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:55 pm
As the saying goes -
"You can fool some of the people, all of the time,
you can fool all of the people, some of the time,
but you cannot fool all of the people, all of the time."
Abraham Lincoln
 

Patricia Martinez (12)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:57 pm

Israel doesn't just go in and kill people for fun. Hey, it's Tuesday, let's go kill some Palestinians.

Palestinians almost always get killed these days because THEY HAVE INSTIGATED ATTACKS ON ISRAELIS, who must defend themselves, regardless of the fact that many people would just like them to roll over and die.

Sorry, but virtually every Palestinian casualty in the past few decades is due to Palestinians making the problems. Israel does not want to kill anybody, especially children, and the Palestinians know this, and therefore they instigate time and time again firing at Israelis behind schools, mosques, hospitals homes, where they know that people will be killed and they will get the media points.

Palestinians are the ones who repeatedly reject living side by side with Israelis in a manner in which Israel can defend itself. ALL of the Palestinian maps of the area show an Israel that does not exist. This is their objective, the complete annihilation of Israel and every Jew. And if their own children have to die in the process to make it happen, they are more than happy to oblige.

 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:57 pm
So David - what about answering my comments on the atrocities committed by your Indonesian neighbour aided and abetted by YOUR Australian government (past and present) including ongoing supply of arms to these occupiers of West Papua. So still persist with your hideous hypocrisy!
 

jess b (24)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 1:59 pm
Thanks for the link, Evelyn -"An honest Israeli Jew tells the real truth about Israel."
Truthtelling is critical in resolving conflicts and abuses.
 

ewoud k. (73)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:37 pm
Bernard, there's more to this Israeli-Palestinian conflict than all that is said in these comments, and I'm not that sure that a comparison with a Indonesian-Australian conflict has it's place here. (maybe Cyprus is a better comparison, a post about that conflict might be welcome...)

The story is complicated, started a very long time ago, before you (and I) were even born, and won't be solved soon (sadly enough).

David (who might have opinions that you nor I share, but this is an open-minded site) posted an article about war casualties, civilians aged under 15. That's all (here at least).

So let's keep the comments about this fact, and not spoil this thread with discussions that should be held elsewhere
(how about a post concerning financial aid for Israel from the US, or financial aid for the Hamas from Iran?)

War is a dirty affair, and gets people killed. And that's sad.
 

jess b (24)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 2:58 pm
Well said Ewoud. Thank you.
 

Ge M. (217)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 3:26 pm
I see David has called on the anti-Semites who continually fail to criticize the deaths caused by Hamas to their own people or to Israelis thereby showing their hatred and bias. They are like parrots, "squawk, it's Israel's fault, squawk, it's Israel's fault, squawk, don't let the truth get in the way of blaming Israel, squawk, mustn't blame the murderers in Gaza, squawk, it's Israel's fault." Did you know that parrots have an IQ equivalent to a human 4 year old.....

Try the truth from Al-Jazeera which is the mouthpiece of Muslim countries

Last week, the host of an Al-Jazeera (Arabic) news program publicly questioned why the Syrian army and its Hezbollah allies "don’t they learn from the Israeli army which tries, through great efforts, to avoid shelling areas populated by civilians in Lebanon and Palestine?"

The story was originally uncovered by Middle East analyst and investigative journalist Tom Gross, who has a copy of the Al-Jazeera broadcast over on his website.

Well over 100,000 people have been killed in Syria's ongoing civil war, a great many of them the victims of indiscriminate shelling and outright abuse of the civilian population.

As evidence that the Israeli army does not engage in indiscriminate shelling, the host noted that Hezbollah fighters regularly "take shelter in areas populated by civilians because it knows that the Israeli air force doesn’t bomb those areas..."

The Al-Jazeera host even praised Israel's use of water canons and rubber bullets to break up Palestinian demonstrations, rather than the "rockets or explosive barrels" employed by the Syrian army.

Propagandists often claim that Israel indiscriminately attacks Palestinian-populated areas, and that it is a heartless and cruel occupier. More often than not, such claims make headlines around the world.

But, the Al-Jazeera broadcast begs the question: If even the flagship of Arab media can look past the false accusations and acknowledge the truth about Israel's intentions and methods, why can the mainstream Western media not do the same?
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 3:36 pm
I support Israel. There are great comments on this thread.
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 4:50 pm
I support Peace.....any child dead because of adults is one too many. No child's death is warranted, this is just a single story about some children not all children. If I post something on a cat being killed does not mean I lack also empathy for a dog being killed.
 

David B. (38)
Tuesday February 11, 2014, 4:53 pm
I" don't think David is spreading hate" Thank you Arielle, there is sense among the slime? --- Keep well, I care. D. x
 

Ben B. (39)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 12:29 am
While all the comments on topic are very welcome, personally I don't think it's a good idea to respond to trolls, it only encourages them.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 1:00 am
Nothing is said about the number of Jewish children that die in these conflicts, or that the P.A are very adept at putting their own people in the firing line - since they love death more than they love their kids!! This conflict is of the P.A's own making. It refuses all peace proposals and wants only the demise of the Jews.
 

Fred H. (31)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 1:45 am
Wow, some people hate it so much that one Jewish country exists that they are trying to spin this into an admission that children were targeted. In reality, no army in history has done more to avoid civilian casualties than the Israelis. The number of civilian casualties in Gaza is far lower than the number that the Palestinians first claimed (Hamas later admitted that their own figures were inflated) and would be even lower if the Palestinians didn't use civilian areas (schools, mosques, hospitals, and homes) to launch attacks on Israel. No, the only force which is intentionally targeting civilians are the Palestinians, and they are proud of it.
 

Ge M. (217)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 7:00 am
Patricia/Edw I notice that David et al is really not picking up on the fact that the Palestinians target Israeli children or even that they admit that Israel does do it's best to protect civilians.

Now, David, if that isn't bias and hatred, I don't know what is. I note that jess b has ignored that as well as others.

It's the parrot in them, "squawk, it's Israel's fault, squawk, it's Israel's fault, squawk, don't let the truth get in the way of blaming Israel, squawk, mustn't blame the murderers in Gaza, squawk, it's Israel's fault."

Dandelion, I note that you claim to support both sides but I do not see you on the articles that comment the other way. I am very much aware that the anti-Semites here are still happy to use Israeli products and inventions, everytime they use a mobile phone or computer they are using their research, but they are sill happy to call for boycotts and to condemn them. I would be really interested to know what Muslim technology they are using remembering that most of "their inventions" are actually stolen from other civilisations such as India.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 7:06 am
Are you surprised with what is happening in the occupied Palestinian land ? This is a routine. It happens everyday. Today Wednesday Feb,12 for example Israeli policemen arrest 7 Jerusalemites including 5 children

Israeli police forces arrested Wednesday morning seven Jerusalemites, including five children who were taken to Qishleh police station for investigation.

Two children, 12 years old, were severely beaten and assaulted during their arrest before being transferred to the police station in the Old City in occupied Jerusalem. The three other children were all 15 years old.

An apartheid state does more than that . Did you hear about this?

Pregnant Palestinian denied quick hospital access - Route that would have been short-cut to hospital is 'not meant for Palestinians.' Read the big news in HAARETZ

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.573553

 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 9:27 am
GM. addressed me personally with:

"Dandelion, I note that you claim to support both sides but I do not see you on the articles that comment the other way. I am very much aware that the anti-Semites here are still happy to use Israeli products and inventions, blah blah blah."

How DARE you accuse me of this! Shame on YOU!

Because you don't happen to SEE me anywhere in particular does NOT justify YOUR claim. I don't appreciate people placing WORDS in my mouth. I didn't say anything on here to personally attack you or anyone else on here. I would appreciate you doing the same.

It must be wonderful to have so much time to check each member of C2 so you have great knowledge of where they are all the time.

This was an article about children being killed......I will stand up for ALL children, always the most innocent of all these conflicts.

I should flag you for inferring what you did with such a slanderous comment about me, but instead I'll let your ignorant comment remain.

 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 1:14 pm
Israeli FM spokesman: Abuse of Palestinian kids 'intolerable’
Australian TV documentary alleges that Palestinian children are being physically abused and forced into false confessions.
By Dan Goldberg | Feb. 11, 2014 | 4:03 AM |

SYDNEY - A spokesman for Israel’s Foreign Ministry has conceded that human rights abuses of Palestinian children in the West Bank are “intolerable” and that having soldiers arrest young kids in the middle of the night is problematic. The admissions by Yigal Palmor were contained in an investigative documentary produced by a team of Australian journalists and aired last night by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

Titled “Stone Cold Justice,” the investigation alleged that some Palestinian children were being physically abused, forced into false confessions and targeted in order to gather intelligence on Palestinian activists.

The broadcast prompted local Jewish and Zionist leaders to accuse the Australian journalists of paying “insufficient attention” to the security difficulties faced by Israel and rehashing similar allegations published in 2011.

During the documentary, Palmor describes as “intolerable” the human rights abuses contained in last October’s UNICEF report, which concluded that Palestinian children have been “threatened with death, physical violence, solitary confinement and sexual assault, against themselves or a family member.”

The maltreatment of Palestinian children appears to be “widespread, systematic and institutionalized,” the report found.

Palmor said: “The natural reaction is that this is intolerable – these are intolerable cases, and that I would like my authorities to do their utmost to make sure that this will not be repeated and that this will change. And I believe that this is precisely what we are doing.”

Palmor also admitted that the nighttime arrests of Palestinian children by soldiers was problematic. “The question of the arrests is a question that needs to be addressed because once you send soldiers and not policemen to arrest people the whole attitude will be different,” he said. “So we need to train soldiers to behave as policemen and that is something that’s not so easy.”

But he defended allegations that Israel’s policy in the West Bank was to create fear. “A policy to create fear? There is no such thing,” he said. “The only policy is to maintain law and order, that’s all. If there’s no violence, there’s no law enforcement.”

Among the Israelis and Palestinians interviewed was a kid who claimed he was conned into signing a confession paper in Hebrew after he was told it was a release paper. Others claimed they’d been shot with rubber bullets, beaten, and threatened with electric shocks.

Some 700 Palestinian children appear before Israel’s military courts each year, with most accused of throwing stones, according to the report.

John Lyons, the Australian reporter for the program, also interviewed the mother of a 3-year-old Israeli girl suffering critical brain damage after their car was hit by rocks in the West Bank.

“Her 3-year-old child is basically still in hospital and it’s unlikely that she will recover from that event,” said Lt. Col. Maurice Hirsh, an Israeli army officer who oversees prosecutions. “That is terrorism.”

Robert Goot, the new president of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, accepted that the program highlighted “disturbing issues” but accused it of paying “insufficient attention” to the difficulties faced by Israel.

The documentary noted that separate laws exist for Israeli and Palestinian children – civil law for the former, military law for the latter.

But Goot said: “Extending Israeli law to those non-Israeli residents of the West Bank would almost certainly be condemned as tantamount to annexation and therefore a violation of international law.”

Philip Chester, president of the Zionist Federation of Australia, told Haaretz: “The issue of the treatment of Palestinian juveniles in the military court system raises a more fundamental question. Why have these teenage boys been recruited to participate in armed conflict? Should they not be attending school, instead of being exploited to use rocks as dangerous weapons, often with deadly repercussions?”

He said the military justice system for Palestinian children in the West Bank is “independent, open and transparent, [and] presided over by professional judges.”

But Chester added: “If it is objectively established that youth in detention are not being appropriately treated then Israel should improve its practices.”

Last month Justice Minister Tzipi LIvni ordered the practice of keeping some detainees - including minors - locked in outdoor cages overnight to be stopped. Israel has agreed to try issuing Palestinian children with a summons instead of being arrested at night, according to the documentary.

http://www.haaretz.com/.premium-1.573480

 

jess b (24)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 1:19 pm
Invisible killings: Israel’s daily toll of Palestinian children

When your land has been occupied by a foreign army as long as your children have been alive, and this occupying army regularly brutalises and humiliates the friends and relatives of these children, stopping kids from confronting the invaders is naturally going to be very difficult. Convincing the Israeli adults in control of this weaponry in civilian areas that they should not be using it to kill children who are merely stone throwers should not be difficult. The statistics sadly tell a different story, of a deep-rooted Israeli contempt for the lives of Palestinian children that should inspire Western outrage. Photo by Musa Al-Shaer.
When Israelis are killed and injured by a Palestinian attack, the TV news networks are quick to cut to “breaking news” reports. Harrowing footage from the scene and interviews with outraged Israeli government officials are swiftly broadcast, and harsh statements are quickly issued by government and UN officials to appear in tomorrow’s front page newspaper stories.

Meanwhile, the steady killing of Palestinian civilians, many of them children, by the Israeli occupation army goes largely unnoticed and unreported.

By consistently emphasizing the suffering of Israelis, and downplaying or ignoring the killings of Palestinians, the media convey a false impression that Palestinian “attacks” are the principal feature of the conflict.

Statistics unambiguously clarify that this impression is the exact opposite of the reality on the ground.

http://electronicintifada.net/content/invisible-killings-israels-daily-toll-palestinian-children/4263
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 1:24 pm
4 injured, 1 arrested in clashes in Beit Ummar
Published today (updated) 12/02/2014 21:19

(MaanImages)

HEBRON (Ma'an) -- Three Palestinians were injured with rubber-coated steel bullets and dozens of others suffered from excessive tear gas inhalation in clashes with Israeli forces in Beit Ummar north of Hebron.

Spokesman for the popular resistance committee in Beit Ummar Mohammad Ayyad said that clashes broke out in the village during a funeral.

Ayyad added that Israeli forces were deployed at the entrance of the village, and near the cemetery where the funeral was held. They attempted to arrest a 12-year-old boy and clashed with residents who tried to stop them.

Israeli forces fired tear gas, stun grenades, and rubber-coated steel bullets, he said.

Mohammad Ali Khalil Sabarneh, 30, was detained during the clashes.

Ahmad Mohammad Awad, 16, was struck with a rubber-coated steel bullet on his left brow, and he was taken to Aliya hospital in Hebron. Two others were shot with rubber-coated steel bullets in the feet and were treated on the spot.

Abdul Aziz Ikhleel, 48, was shot with a rubber-coated steel bullet in the head from the range of 10 meters as he was returning home from work on a tractor, Ayyad said.

He was taken to al-Hikma medical complex, then transferred to Aliya hospital for treatment.

Israeli forces also fired a tear gas canister into the house of Nazih Mohammad Hussein Alqam, causing family members including a toddler to suffer from inhalation, he said.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=672725
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 2:04 pm
Sharon ordered expulsion of 3,000 Bedouin, new biography reveals
Book: During secret 1972 military exercise in Sinai, dozens of children and elderly were expelled in the bitter cold of night, and died.
By Anshel Pfeffer | Feb. 12, 2014 | 3:00 AM

Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon, had ordered the expulsion of three thousand civilians, members of two Bedouin tribes whose encampments and grazing grounds were in the exercise area. The expulsion took place without warning, during a freezing desert cold snap, without time for the Bedouin to take their belongings, causing around forty deaths, mainly of children, babies and old people.

Read the whole story as appeared today in HAARETZ

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.573778
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 2:16 pm

Israel: Only Nation That Systematically Arrests, Abuses, Tortures, Rapes, Kills Children - Video

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/24/israel-only-nation-that-systematically-arrests-abuses-tortures-rapes-and-kills-children/
 

jess b (24)
Wednesday February 12, 2014, 8:09 pm
Thank you for posting some of the statistics on the number of victims from Israeli forces.
I know these are only a some of the many human rights abuses and violations by the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) and Israeli Occupation Forces.
Sadly they continue night and day, even breaking into homes in the middle of the night and terrorizing Palestinian families.
 

Patricia Martinez (12)
Thursday February 13, 2014, 4:52 pm

Israelis have much higher moral standards. What they would consider intolerable, the Arab world, indeed the vast majority of the Islamic world, considers righteous and laudable.

 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:08 am

Bernard Cronyn you said:
'I would like to ask you and others like you on Care2 that find it abhorrent that Jews should have the temerity to fight back when attacked with rockets and suicide bombers'

Fight back ?
Who started ? - it always works like this in the Rothschild controlled State - create a controlled opposition to conduct eternal wars and so destabilize the entire ME !
This is what Israel doesn't tell you about Hamas

About the timeline (WHO STARTED the war ?)
Hopefully the world sees both sides of the story, Bernard Cronyn - Roger Waters explains it very well.... Roger Waters UN Address - Nov 29, 2012
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:20 am

Sue H. you said:
'The first casualty of war is usually an innocent, usually a child'

WRONG !
the first victim of war is always the truth because ALL wars are based on deception - ajar Sun Zsu

But right, I see in the above comments a real lacking of compassion against the enormous number of murders children, not to speak of all the massacred natives from Occupied Palestine, including nomads and peace activists
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:38 am

G M. you said:
'I am very much aware that the anti-Semites here are still happy to use Israeli products and inventions'
Tragically error !
Before I post something, I should at least be aware what I comment to the c2NN and know the facts as otherwise, I would stand like an unknowing idiot --

1. Who are the SEMITES ?
The semitic family includes the ancient and modern forms of Ahlamu, Akkadian (Assyrian-Babylonian), Amharic, Ammonite, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic/Syriac, Canaanite/Phoenician/Carthaginian, Chaldean, Eblaite, Edomite, Ge'ez, Hebrew, Maltese, Mandaic, Moabite, Sutean, Tigre and Tigrinya, and Ugaritic, among others

2. Agree G M., we SHOULD not cease to continue boycotting the Apartheid Zionesia - it is kosher to boycott Israeli goods
BOYCOTT ISRAEL PRODUCTS
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 5:00 am

patrica and edw jones you said:
'Nothing is said about the number of Jewish children that die in these conflicts'
- oh, plase go ahead and name one, this would miraculously fuel the flames of the Hasbra-propaganda.

This 'conflict' which, indeed is a (sound and insidious) genocide ordered by the chosen Globalists in Wall Street, City of London and Tel Aviv, carried out 24/7 by the Israeli Occupation Forces has nothing to do with Jews, absolutely nothing but with Zionist Christians (which are the most unscrupulous, rabid Zionist warmongers) and Zionist Jews -- you, patrica and edw jones, really support any form of Globalization ?


Worthy to learn -- IN THEIR OWN WORDS ....
Quotable Quotes from the Chosen ones

one more quote for your private log ?

‘... We have to fill our mental hospitals with anti-Semitic lunatics and our prisons with anti-Semitic criminals.
We must pursue and destroy anti-Semites to the limits of the law and beyond.
We must humiliate and torment our anti-Semites for them to be our companions ...’
- Rabbi Leon Spitz, American Hebrew, 03/01/1946
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (100)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 5:26 am

Patricia M. you said:
'Israelis have much higher moral standards'.

HERE the world can witness footage on the 'much higher moral standards' of the 'Israelis':
Israeli Jews Pray for Peace Failure

I only wonder what you mean by 'moral' Patricia M. ?
Maybe THIS ?

Israeli-Ukrainian soldier admits on TV she killed Palestinian Children

speaking of moral...
Well, there is still sanity and hope as you can read in 'Jews For Justice For Palestinians' (Ha'aretz)
Palestinians take the moral lead

~~~~~~~~~~
Actually, I use not to reply to any of the Hasbra-irruptions, in this case, I made an exception and answered on the most curious and twisted statements as there is so much hatred and deficiency in human commiseration against the voiceless.

 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:24 am
Parsifal, not another person who doesn't understand anti-Semitism! When making statements please know what you are talking about.

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish religion or heritage.[1] A person who holds such positions is called an "antisemite". As Jews are an ethnoreligious group, antisemtism is often considered a form of racism.
While the term's etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic people, the term was coined in the late 19th century in Germany as a more scientific-sounding term for Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"),[2] and that has been its normal use since then.[3] For the purposes of a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism was considered "hatred toward Jews—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity."[4]
Antisemitism may be manifested in many ways, ranging from expressions of hatred of or discrimination against individual Jews to organized violent attacks by mobs, state police, or even military attacks on entire Jewish communities. Although the term did not come into common usage until the 19th century, it is now also applied to historic anti-Jewish incidences. Notable instances of persecution include the pogroms which preceded the First Crusade in 1096, the expulsion from England in 1290, the massacres of Spanish Jews in 1391, the persecutions of the Spanish Inquisition, the expulsion from Spain in 1492, Cossack massacres in Ukraine of 1648–1657, various pogroms in Imperial Russia between 1821 and 1906, the 1894–1906 Dreyfus affair in France, the Holocaust in German-occupied Europe, official Soviet anti-Jewish policies and the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries.
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:27 am
As for Abdesalam, put your own house in order. Egypt practices clearly practices apartheid which Israel has deomnstrated repeatedly that it does not.

CAIRO — Palestinian refugees in Egypt continue to face major obstacles, including formidable travel restrictions and a lack of access to basic government services, such as free education.
“They don’t have many rights,” said Ashraf Milad, a lawyer specialising in forced migration studies at the American University in Cairo.

There are currently some 70,000 Palestinians in Egypt who - unlike their compatriots in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon - are not served by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), established in 1949 with the express purpose of assisting Palestinian refugees fleeing the nascent Israeli occupation.

Rather, Palestinians in Egypt fall under the mandate of UN refugee agency UNHCR.

Palestinians approaching the UNHCR office in Cairo are immediately registered.

A total of 193 Palestinians are registered with the refugee agency in the Egyptian capital.

Experts say that the basic rights of Palestinian refugees in Egypt have waned considerably in the last 25 years. Yousif Mahmoud al-Nimnim, head of the Egyptian branch of the Palestinian Labour Union, explained that Palestinian refugees enjoyed the generous support of the state under the regime of former President Gamal Abdel Nasser in the 1950s and 1960s.

In the late 1970s, however, following the assassination of a government minister by Palestinian militants and the signing of the Camp David peace agreement between Egypt and Israel new policies were put in place restricting Palestinian rights.

In the wake of Camp David, for example, Palestinian refugees gradually lost the right - albeit with some exceptions - to free education, a right guaranteed to all Egyptian citizens. “In 1952, education in schools and universities became free for all Palestinians,” notes Forced Migration Online, a website devoted to international refugee issues. “It was not until the 1978 Camp David Accords that Palestinians were gradually denied their right to free education.”

Long-time Palestinian refugees resident in Egypt confirmed this. “My son was born weeks after a new law gave rights to Palestinians born of Egyptian mothers, but I’ve been told the law doesn’t apply to my son,” said Said al-Ammasi. “Now we will have to pay more money for his education.”

Restrictive travel regulations in particular are a problem. According to Milad, Palestinian’s travel documents are often not renewed, which essentially prevents them from freely leaving the country. “I’ve dealt with many cases where Palestinians have been told that their passports would not be renewed,” said Milad.

A police source at the interior ministry conceded that, ever since the early 1990s, Palestinians in Egypt have been hard pressed to acquire official documentation allowing them to travel abroad.

“Thousands of Palestinians who came to Egypt 50 years ago obtained travel documents,” the source said. “But since the 1993 Oslo peace agreement, the Minister of Interior hasn’t issued many travel documents to Palestinians.”

When contacted ont his issue other government officials would not comment.

Nevertheless, the source added that there had been several cases in which the ministry issued travel documents after the UNHCR had testified to the statelessness of the refugee in question.

He went on to point out that, despite the bureaucratic hurdles, thousands of Palestinians had managed to integrate into Egyptian society, marry Egyptian citizens and find jobs after qualifying for residency permits.

According to analysts, though, state generosity towards Palestinian refugees is little more than a reflection of bilateral political relations. “Discrimination is linked to foreign policy,” said Bissan Edwan, a researcher specialising in Israeli affairs at the Cairo-based Arabs against Discrimination.

“When [former President Anwar] Sadat went to Jerusalem and lost his good relationship with [former Palestinian President Yasser] Arafat, residency permits for Palestinians in Egypt were soon decreased from five to three years,” said Edwan.

Forced Migration Online largely confirmed this. “Egypt’s political stance on the Palestinian question has fluctuated in relation to Palestinian attitudes towards peace, UN resolution 242, and settlement with the Israelis,” the online journal notes. “Everything that occurs at the political level has a direct impact on Palestinians in Egypt at social and economic levels.”
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:28 am
Then there is this article

Palestinian Refugees in Egypt

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/04/palestinian-refugees-egypt-challenges.html#
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:31 am
Then we look at the Lebanon

Palestinian Refugees in Lebanon

http://www.anera.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LEBRefugeeReport.pdf
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:32 am
Then there is how Egypt abuses /murders/rapes Christians

Uncertainty Over The Fate Of Egypt's Christians

http://news.sky.com/story/1142835/uncertainty-over-the-fate-of-egypts-christians
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:34 am
Kidnappers Target Christian Children in Egypt

http://www.persecution.org/2014/02/19/kidnappers-target-christian-children-in-egypt-2/
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:36 am
Then there is how Egyptians abuse their own children and it is legal

‘Some girls have been married 60 times by the time they turn 18′

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/06/some-girls-have-been-married-60-times-by-the-time-they-turn-18/

 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:40 am
Abdeslam, before you accuse Israel for arresting teenagers for breaking the law especially where throwing stones at cars/buses etc is concerned, perhaps you should do something about your own children. Or are you trying to cover these terrible abuses up by complaining about Israel, doesn't work.

'They beat us like animals': Egypt's children detained, abused

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/0/65829/Egypt/-T

hey-beat-us-like-animals-Egypts-children-detaine.aspx
 

Ge M. (217)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 10:42 am
Then you traffick humans, some 20 million slaves in the Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East, illegal in Israel. But you are a Muslim and allow it, only the lowest of the low do that.

Egypt/Sudan: Traffickers Who Torture

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/02/11/egyptsudan-traffickers-who-torture
 

David B. (38)
Thursday February 20, 2014, 2:13 pm
"Egypt practices clearly practices apartheid which Israel has demonstrated repeatedly that it does not. "... ?
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Friday February 21, 2014, 5:36 am
@ GM
1 - apparently you didn't read what I posted or you didn't understand what you read.All my posts have been by Israeli resources. I didn't invent any incident, accident, event or crime.

2 - There aren't refugee camps in Egypt. Palestinians ,in general are well treated in Egypt without discrimination. You yourself said there are 70,000 Palestinians in Egypt . I add to what you said that most Palestinians have their own business and they are doing well in this business. The prove comes from your words that only " A total of 193 Palestinians are registered with the refugee agency in the Egyptian capital."

3 - You also mention that " thousands of Palestinians had managed to integrate into Egyptian society, marry Egyptian citizens and find jobs after qualifying for residency permits." Does this integration prove discrimination ?

4 - Egypt has provided hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from all over Palestine with free education since and even before 1948 . Thousands graduated from Egyptian universities in different fields of Specializations such as medicine ,engineering, architecture , agriculture, arts ,law education .........etc. Many of them got Master and PH.D degrees from Egyptian universities . The greatest majority of them were given scholarships from the Egyptian government. Egyptians never considered this as a favor . This is always considered as a duty Egyptians are giving to their Palestinian brothers.Palestinians of Egyptian mothers are treated as Egyptians in terms of school and university tuition.

6 - Since Oslo agreement and the creation of the Palestinian Authority Palestinians hold Palestinian pass ports . They are granted residency in Egypt as long as they have jobs or their own business. This is a system followed all over the world and certainly in UK where you belong.

7 - I thought that commentators on this thread will be subjective but I could see that instead of denying or supporting the facts I posted with Israeli resources, You want to change the topic and talk about non related subjects. I can understand your motives in this regards as you are unable to look at the point here although you pretend on your profile that you " Want " To Be A Human Being Not A Human Doing ". I feel sorry for you because in this particular subject you failed to do so.


 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Friday February 21, 2014, 6:04 am
Additional 'price tag' attack in Kfar Qassem
Israeli-Arabs targeted in additional 'price tag' attack. The words 'buy just from Jews' and 'price tag' were spray-painted on a planet nursery just a month and a half after the adjacent nursery was targeted

Published: 02.21.14, 00:49 / Israel News

For the second time in a month and a half, unknown vandals launched a 'price tag' attack on Thursday in the Arab town of Kfar Qassem.

The words "buy just from Jews" and "price tag" were spray painted on a plant nursery in the town and property worth thousands of shekels was destroyed.

Last months some 30 fruit trees and other plants were destroyed in the adjacent nursery in the town. At the time, a sign reading "hello from Ash Kadosh" – a radical West Bank outpost – was hung on the vandalized trees.

Workers at the nursery arrived at work and discovered the damage and called the police.

On Tuesday, some 30 cars had their tires slashed and anti-Arab graffiti was daubed on walls of a village in East Jerusalem, in yet another "price tag" attacks by far-rightist Israelis.

Jerusalem Police began investigating the attack in the Arab village of Sharafat, close to Jerusalem's Gilo.

The phrases "No coexistence" and "Arabs = thieves" were sprayed on walls of the village. The attacks were discovered Wednesday morning.

Village residents called the police when they discovered the vandalism, and officers were dispatched to the scene to gather evidence.

Three masked assailants carrying backpacks entered the village at around 3am that day, security camera footage obtained by Ynet shows. One of the men appears to be giving directions to the other two.

Workers at the nursery arrived at work and discovered the damage and called the police.

On Tuesday, some 30 cars had their tires slashed and anti-Arab graffiti was daubed on walls of a village in East Jerusalem, in yet another "price tag" attacks by far-rightist Israelis.

Jerusalem Police began investigating the attack in the Arab village of Sharafat, close to Jerusalem's Gilo.

The phrases "No coexistence" and "Arabs = thieves" were sprayed on walls of the village. The attacks were discovered Wednesday morning.

Village residents called the police when they discovered the vandalism, and officers were dispatched to the scene to gather evidence.

Three masked assailants carrying backpacks entered the village at around 3am that day, security camera footage obtained by Ynet shows. One of the men appears to be giving directions to the other two.


Workers at the nursery arrived at work and discovered the damage and called the police.

On Tuesday, some 30 cars had their tires slashed and anti-Arab graffiti was daubed on walls of a village in East Jerusalem, in yet another "price tag" attacks by far-rightist Israelis.

Jerusalem Police began investigating the attack in the Arab village of Sharafat, close to Jerusalem's Gilo.

The phrases "No coexistence" and "Arabs = thieves" were sprayed on walls of the village. The attacks were discovered Wednesday morning.

Village residents called the police when they discovered the vandalism, and officers were dispatched to the scene to gather evidence.

Three masked assailants carrying backpacks entered the village at around 3am that day, security camera footage obtained by Ynet shows. One of the men appears to be giving directions to the other two.



The footage shows them heading toward the home of the head of the village, and then making their way down the street to attack the cars.

At the beginning of the month, Yehuda Landsberg, Benjamin Richter and Yehuda Savir – three residents of the Havat Gilad settlement outpost – were charged with planning and executing price tag operations in the Samarian Palestinian village of Far'ata.

According to the indictment, the three arrived three months ago at the Palestinian village, set two Palestinian-owned vehicles on fire and sprayed Stars of David on nearby walls. Substantial damage was caused to the two cars that were torched.

"The forbidden actions of the group members were performed due to nationalistic motives and out of hostility towards the Arab public," the indictment reads.

The three, aged 22-25, were defined by the Shin Bet as radical right-wing activists, and two of them were previously affiliated with other violent acts.

'Outright terrorism'
January saw the UN condemn such attacks, pointing a blaming finger at Israel for failing to curb the phenomena.

According to the UN, Israeli security forces have largely failed to stem the attacks in which assailants cut down trees, deface mosques and beat Palestinian farmers.

Israeli leaders have repeatedly denounced such attacks – Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon branded them "outright terrorism" – and the military says soldiers are under strict orders to stop them.


Still, critics say the Israeli governments have often been reluctant to confront settlers, even those seen as a hard-line fringe.

"There is not enough pressure from the prime minister, the defense minister, the interior minister to prevent this," said Gadi Zohar, a former senior army commander in the West Bank.
READ AND WATCH THE CRIME HERE:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4490870,00.html


 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Friday February 21, 2014, 6:12 am
Jewish-Arab couple protest demolition of J’lem home
City razed the house in Silwan, though couple said they'd been given grace period to sort out paperwork.
By Nir Hasson | Feb. 19, 2014 | 11:20 PM

Malice or misunderstanding? The Jerusalem municipality last week razed a house belonging to an Arab-Jewish couple in the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Silwan, a move that the family claims violated a deal they had made with the city meant to give them time to legalize the construction.

The city, for its part, claims that the agreement, under which a demolition order would be issued but not implemented for a year, was meant to give the family time to evacuate the home, not legalize it.

M. is a Jewish woman married to Mohammed Swahar, with whom she has five children. Last Monday morning M. was awakened by loud knocking at the door. “When I opened it there were policemen there. They said, ‘Ma’am, we have a demolition order here. Please leave the house,” recalls M. “I told them that I have small children and that I wanted to dress them first, but they said no, dress them outside.

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Dandelion G. (386)
Friday February 21, 2014, 7:56 am
Please leave the house,” recalls M. “I told them that I have small children and that I wanted to dress them first, but they said no, dress them outside.

Heartbreaking......not even time to dress her children.....nor to save anything so they may live another day.
 
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