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Ayn Rand USA: In 20 Years Corporate Profits Are Up 4X and Their Taxes Have Fallen By 50% -- Meanwhile the Workers' Payroll Tax H

Business  (tags: corporate, economy, politics, taxes, inequality, Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged )

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Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged" fantasizes a world in which anti-government citizens reject taxes and regulations, and "stop the motor" by withdrawing themselves from the system of production. ... [but]... rejected taxes are shutting down productive people.

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David C (131)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 12:32 pm
I blame Reagan for so believing in the greed mantra of Ms. Rand that he would allow it to become the way of our country......we need a return to JFK and the "Ask not what your country could do for you, but what you could do for your country" its all "what can I get from the country"......

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 2:07 pm
Rand's influence over the people leading the fight to kill social programs, and her ideological influence on powerful bankers, regulators and businessmen who brought the financial markets crashing down, means her ideas are affecting all of our lives.

Alan Greenspan and Clarence Thomas found inspiration in Ayn Rand, but Ayn Rand found early inspiration in 1920's murderer William Hickman.
Ayn Rand Inspiration was notorious serial murderer-dismemberer

Yet Clarence Thomas, that sits in a Court of law, the Supreme Court no less, insists that those who work for him or under him read Ayn Rands book, Atlas Shrugged, for it is among his favorite novels. And we wonder why we have issues? I don't.

Lynn S (235)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 11:03 pm
"...The greater part of basic research, especially for technology and health care, has been conducted with government money. Even today 60% of university research is government-supported. Corporations use highways and shipping lanes and airports to ship their products, the FAA and TSA and Coast Guard and Department of Transportation to safeguard them, a nationwide energy grid to power their factories, and communications towers and satellites to conduct online business."

Does this sound familiar? It does to me. It sounds like an Elizabeth Warren small group speech before the last election, one for which she was widely applauded. Both Elizabeth Warren and the author are correct.

"Ayn Rand's hero John Galt said, "We are on strike against those who believe that one man must exist for the sake of another." "

How very sad because it is in doing for and with others that a person grows and is enriched. I pity the Randians because hey must be very lonely.

Darren W (218)
Friday May 17, 2013, 5:07 am
I've not yet read Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" but "The Fountainhead" is one of the best books I've ever read.

This is simple enough to understand, even for a corporation surely. Your WORKFORCE is the lifeblood of your company, your infrastructure... if you screw around with that, you're going to burn and go down under.

Gloria p (304)
Friday May 17, 2013, 5:42 am
Let us eat cake.

Past Member (0)
Friday May 17, 2013, 5:58 am
Perhaps you should actually READ Ayn Rand's novel and attempt to contemplate the principles she presents
Read it through to the ending and examine it's ramifications. The honest, moral, hard-working man is the winner be he rich or poor.
Likely impossible in today's society. Forget government and corporations; how many are there in our workforce who could truly be deemed honest and moral?? Honey, it's every man for himself!

Jaime Alves (52)
Friday May 17, 2013, 7:09 am

Theodore Shayne (56)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:29 am
I have never read Ayn Rand nor do I intend to. I instinctually sensed there was something wrong with her and avoided her at all costs.

Robert K (31)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:48 am
Ayn Rand never wrote anything rational but as she was dying she sure was happy to avail herself of all the services she spent her whole disgusting worthless life railing against.

Typical right wing moron and hatemonger.

Sharon H (282)
Friday May 17, 2013, 1:58 pm
It’s a hour long but worth every minute. Take your BP meds before if you’re on them.

Lynn S (235)
Friday May 17, 2013, 2:14 pm
Here is a direct link to the video Sharon H mentions.
"Park Avenue: money, power and the American dream"
It is an hour long, and I have only watched part of it but it is well worth watching. Thanks Sharon for sharing this.

Thanks for your comments everyone.

Judith Hand (55)
Friday May 17, 2013, 4:44 pm
I never gave Ayn Rand much thought until recently. Researched her for a bit and then attended a free library viewing of the first Atlas Shrugged. After that, I discussed her with my brother who'd not read or seen Atlas Shrugged 1,2,or 3 but who'd read another of her books. One thing that we both found was her dislike of altruism. The second, that she held selfishness in high esteem. I'm not totally sure what I got out of the article, because I still find it confusing. Maybe I'm trying to give her credit she doesn't deserve. One thing I got out of the article was that a lot of things that are left in the hands of the have-lesses are in fact valuable to the have-mosts. I think I understood it to say that, for that reason alone, the 1%ers (or whatever we're calling them this month) might participate simply to get what's valuable to them. From what I 'know' of Ayn Rand, I guess she'd concur with that because it would not be to help the have-lesses, but to get what they (the have-mosts) need. Although the motive would not be to help, helping them would perhaps be a by-product which wouldn't much matter to the have-mosts as selfishness is the key. Sounds like her to me. I don't see that happening, though.

Birgit W (160)
Friday May 17, 2013, 5:05 pm
Very sad, but what else is new.

Past Member (0)
Friday May 17, 2013, 7:43 pm
Agree with Birgit!

Edith B (146)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:24 pm
Thanks for posting. I sent it to a friend who is a die hard, right wing, Republican who believes the wealthy are being discriminated against. I hope she reads the article.

Nancy Black (308)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:36 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared, tweeted, shared. This must make Paul Ryan a happy man.

Scott haakon (4)
Friday May 17, 2013, 10:42 pm
Blind men and the elephant warning. this can help one understand what the shareholders are talking about.

Robert Tomlinson (62)
Saturday May 18, 2013, 7:31 am
The American people - even the well off - have benefited from the policies of FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ and WJC. BUT who has benefited from the policies of RR, Bush 41 and Bush 43? Having said that.....they are not even conservative enough for today's GOP base.

P A (117)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 8:27 am
Stars to Dave C and Dandelion and Robert K - Ayn Rand was a sociopath - Robert K's comment is very succinct and good!. Star to Robert Tomlinson too - excellent.

"Ayn Rand's philosophy suggests that average working people are 'takers.' In reality, those in the best position to make money take all they can get, with no scruples about their working class victims, because taking, in the minds of the rich, serves as a model for success. The strategy involves tax avoidance, in numerous forms. " The rich take from those who create the wealth in the first place - but call it not taking or stealing but 'bonuses' and tax advice... and they are getting more and more extreme in their views with every passing year!

Eddie O (95)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 11:37 am
Isn’t it sad that many people only equate “success” to making money, nothing more and nothing less? They don’t pay any attention to the consequences of their actions, the “collateral damage”, the people they trample over while trying to amass as much monetary wealth as they possibly can.

They have no concept of true integrity, or compassion, of altruism, or of the “treasures of the heart”. How sad, shallow, and pathetic their lives must be! And, unfortunately, it’s like a negative snowball, in that they probably know, at least sub-consciously, that something major is missing in their lives. The pathetic thing is that they feel more and more money will somehow fill that void, and in reality this just makes the void larger and more painful.

Daisaku Ikeda, the lay leader of the world-wide Nichiren Buddhist group said a while back, “ingratitude is the worst evil”. I’ve pondered this ever since hearing it and feel it is extremely deep. If we truly value everything, and have gratitude to everything that has helped sustain our lives, we could never look down on, take advantage of, or do harm to anyone else, or deliberately destroy the environment we need to sustain a healthy, happy, life. Whereas if we have no gratitude, it’s easy to take advantage of and abuse anything and everything that comes our way.

Also, Nichiren Buddhism talks about 10 life conditions, from Hell to Enlightenment. The four lower conditions are: Hell, Hunger, Animality, and Anger. Hunger is a condition of insatiable desire – the more we get the more we want, and it’s definitely a condition of much suffering. And, Animality is a condition of the big bullying the small, or the small being bullied by the big. It too is a condition of much suffering regardless of whether you’re the big or the small. Bottom line is that these Greedy Obstructionists are predominantly experiencing these life conditions of Hunger and Animality, and are constantly creating more and more suffering in the process. Oh, how I hope that someday at least some of them will wake up to what they’re doing and promoting!
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