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Democracy Trampled as Big Money Overwhelms Grassroots Campaign

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: elections, ballot initiatives, grassroots, big money, ethics, lies, propaganda, media, politics )

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In two referendum battles that took place on opposite sides of the country on Tuesday, the power of big money campaigns funded by out-of-state corporate interests once again revealed itself by overwhelming grassroots campaigns trying to champion a . . .

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Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 9:45 pm
The Washington state initiative about GMO labeling and a Maine initiative regarding a bitumen pipeline, both local issues, went down to defeat because of big money from the outside.

Not only do there need to be regulations about campaign finance for candidates, but there needs to be regulation for financing of local matters, specifically keeping outside money OUT.

I guess for now, the grassroots have to be David and keep trying to defeat Goliath. It only takes one small stone properly placed to knock out Goliath!

Gloria picchetti (304)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 1:07 am
Should we get used to plastic food and our homes blowing up from a pipeline?

Dotti L (85)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 6:34 am
I was particularly disappointed in the defeat of I 522 as I live in Seattle. It was sickening to watch the many ads on defeat this measure. Money talks.

James Maynard (84)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:14 am
Sad when you let your vote be bought
by someone who doesn't give a crap
about you.

Jonathan H (0)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:33 am

Maggie Kearns (7)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:57 am
As long as Citizens United is in place, we the people lose! Sad and pathetic!

ewoud k (68)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 8:11 am
Not sure you can call this (yes folks, I'm talking about the US, unfortunately) still a democracy. In a democracy (normally speaking) people who live there where the decision is to be applied vote, the citizens decide, human being discuss and vote.

In these two cases (the most evident in recent times, but surely not the only ones) outside corporations spoke by means of their wealth, so the best way to describe these two communities, the state of Washington and the town in Maine, is "plutocracy", 'a society or a system ruled and dominated by the small minority of the top wealthiest citizens' (wikipedia). For the US as a whole it's no different, the only difference is that on a nationwide scale it's a 'internal' plutocracy, whereas this post talk about a 'external' plutocracy.

Wonder what Big Money (or even Big Politics) would say when nationwide external money stepped in, and, let's say, Russian mafia money or some Chinese capital (tried to) influence(d) the presidential campaign.....

Thanks for posting Lynn, this reminded us that our suspicions were not false.

David C (129)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 8:22 am
very sad that those who already have so much want so much more and to deny those without......I call that greed and prejudice.....and they want to destroy so much during the same time....

Mike M (40)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:20 am
If you are a self aware person you should be able to think for yourself but unfortunately that is no longer a option in the US. It now is how you can model yourself like elites and live poor and dumb and the corporation and your government will be proud

Süheyla C (234)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:33 am

SuSanne P (193)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 12:10 pm
Thank you Lynn. What the hell is happening with overturning Citizens United? Anything? Ever? What the hell is happening with my bumper sticker stating IMPEACH THE SUPREME COURT 5? Nothing ever would or will on that account. THIS IS TRULY ****NOT****A DEMOCRACY as ewoud k shared.

Roger G (154)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 12:22 pm
noted, thanks

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 12:31 pm
SuSanne P - Actually Moyers' first guests today (the authors of "Dollarocracy") pointed out 22 states have passed referenda for a constitutional amendment to nullify Citizens United, and that, while 22 is nowhere near enough, this has happened at lightning speed compared to other constitutional amendments, but the media are ignoring it (gee, wonder why).
If you missed it you can see it at
I guess it was actually Friday's show (11/8), but it is aired here noon Sunday

Sheri Schongold (7)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 1:46 pm
Money talks. Democracy down the drain. Money is the governing party here. Someday the greedy, money hungry politicians will be defeated. The voters will be able to say something because of the level field without money. It isn't likely in my time.

Mary Donnelly (47)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 1:47 pm

Sheila D (194)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 1:48 pm
Wonder if the 1% and their Toadies have found a way to take it all with you when you go...Bet the 1% haven't told their Toadies if they have.

Birgit W (160)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 2:16 pm
Noted, thanks.

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 2:53 pm
Noted. Yes, the Citizens United ruling was a catastrophe. Joanne (above) referred to the 22 states, and I believe this is happening because of the group That's the only (and biggest) grassroots group that I know of that's working nationwide on this. I went to one of their meetings in my town several months ago. As I understand it, numerous towns & cities have signed onto this, too, in hopes of pushing their states to join. You can go to their website and sign their petition and see if there are actions you can take locally to help out.

Ray M (0)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 4:37 pm
These tyrant politicians - local, state, federal - keep barking about what "their constituents" feel, need or want. Hogwash! They don't and never did listen to their constituents. They only listen to the scratching of the pen writing the fat checks from millionaires dictating what THEY want and what's best for their own greedy asses. Constituents be damned. Democracy? NOT!

Madhu Pillai (22)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:44 pm
Same story in most so called democratic countries, values trampled by money!

Ganaisha Calvin (7)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 10:27 pm
thanks for sharing

Karen Chestney (112)
Monday November 11, 2013, 4:46 am
Yes...Yes...Big money from out of State bought this outcome. but Wa. will not give up...

Avril Lomas (0)
Monday November 11, 2013, 1:01 pm
Remember the saying "Corporations are people my friends" Romney!. Money TALKS!
If this court is "Supreme" You could have fooled me(and many others. )
Is this REALLY the best that the USA can do?
Sadly ,the average man (and woman ) on the street does not know or care ,Until the population becomes educated the 1% will have it their way ,Democracy! WHERE.WHERE???

Avril Lomas (0)
Monday November 11, 2013, 1:07 pm

One other point, the mantra of the !% and OUR politicians, (stuffing money into their pockets and enjoying tax payer funded Universal Health Care.
We are doing great. Too bad about the "AMERICAN DREAM."

We are, as the saying goes, Firmly "on the vessel"

SusanAWAY Allen (219)
Monday November 11, 2013, 3:56 pm
Thanks to the SCOTUS, American democracy is null and void. At least 4 or 5 of the supreme court justices should be impeached. Noted and shared.

Anne F (17)
Monday November 11, 2013, 6:50 pm
Thanks for posting. The huge food conglomerates (Pepsi, Coke, ConAgra, Nestle) paid lots of money to influence voters.

Colleen L (3)
Monday November 11, 2013, 8:51 pm
Money and Politics... two evils. Thanks Lynn

reft h (66)
Monday November 11, 2013, 11:04 pm
thanks for the article

P A (117)
Wednesday November 13, 2013, 2:26 am
Thanks Lynn - very good posts on a sad topic - why people are swayed by big money ads.... sigh!

Jull Sanders (0)
Tuesday January 28, 2014, 6:44 am
Thanks for sharing and the link. Unfortunately people measure everything in money nowadays and fail to see the consequences of their decisions. I can hardly understand those who believe ads and do not think about their own future and the future of their children. I 522 will not choose whom to influence, everybody is put to the risk of not yet studied enough consequences GMO entails.
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