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TAKE ACTION: FIGHT THE REPUBLICANS' REPEAL OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT


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Beverly
- 1284 days ago - healthcareforamericanow.org
Join us in the fight against Speaker John Boehner and the Republicans who want to give our health care back to the insurance companies.



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Beverly L. (72)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:21 pm
The 112th Congress' Republican majority is bought and paid for by Wall Street-run corporations and their shill groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. It comes as no surprise that one of the Republicans’ first items is a plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and all the benefits and consumer protections that are making a real difference in the lives of millions of Americans right now. What are they replacing it with? NOTHING.

Join us in the fight against Speaker John Boehner and the Republicans who want to give our health care back to the insurance companies, and sentence more than 30,000 Americans a year to death because they can’t afford health insurance.

Everyone already knows that the Republican Party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the health insurance industry and other profit-hungry corporations. In case there was any doubt, the Republicans have begun hiring insurance and health care industry lobbyists for key positions on committees and members’ staffs.
The scheduled repeal vote in the House is part of an all-out assault on the new law in the Congress, the courts and state legislatures. And it’s an assault with well-funded corporate sponsors. Thankfully we have a strong Democratic caucus in the House and a majority in the Senate to fight back.

When you cut through the political hyperbole, the GOP’s search-and-destroy mission is serious business. Thankfully we have a strong Democratic caucus in the House and a majority in the Senate to fight back. The repeal vote in the House scheduled for next week is part of an all-out assault on the new law in the Congress, the courts and state legislatures. And it’s an assault with well-funded corporate sponsors.

Now is the time for us to send this Congress a message. We will not go back. We will not let them play partisan political games with our rights as consumers or with the lives of our families.


 

Marti Williams (170)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:27 pm
I hope they do not dismantle it...we will pay dearly...Petition signed...
 

Beverly L. (72)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:30 pm
I agree Marti!
 

Robert G. (3)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:39 pm
This is a well organized attack on america as bad as the attacks by Al-Quida
 

Fran away F. (109)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:39 pm
Thanks Beverly! Signed, noted and shared.
 

Beverly L. (72)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:41 pm
I agree Robert, we have our own terrorists, and they're runnig our country!
 

H Nick H. (1826)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:47 pm
I've said this before, but do you know the difference between the Taliban and the republican party? About 7,000 miles. They are the true terrorists that the US has to be aware of. This is why I have been so stressed out.
 

Michael Carney (206)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:55 pm
Noted, and signed...I personally feel that the Republicans and Tea Partiers are the real terrorists and a much bigger threat to our Country, than Osama bin Laden, and Al-Quida ever can or will be...
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:57 pm
Signed. I do believe the health care reform will be repealed in the House, but will fail in the Senate, that's why they feel safe in doing this. The republicans are tossing a bone to the tea bags.
 

Carol H. (229)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 6:59 pm
signed and noted, Thanks Beverly
 

Linda G. (187)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 7:17 pm
Signed this and several other petitions to the same effect. While this will probably pass in the House, I believe the GOP know that they are safe in catering to their base ahead of the 2012 elections and they know that it will fail in the Senate. If by some horrid mischance it were to pass also in the Senate, the President would surely veto it. Why are they not dismantling their own "government run" health insurance?
 

Bruce Eyster (62)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 7:39 pm
noted and signed .
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 7:39 pm
No bones about it. Those democrats that don't vote for the repeal will suffer the same fate as those democrats that used every underhanded tactic possible to get the original bill passed.
 

Diana K. (4)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 7:46 pm
Signed, thanks.
 

Cam V. (417)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 8:13 pm
Yep, and I do see a lot of hysteria here Hans. The need for health care reform was always a given. Too bad the Dems decided to jam stuff up the arse of Americans instead of listening to the majority of them. This congress will defund this bill and any Dem who does not support repeal puts his job on the line. A few of the most corrupt will get through like Reid and a few others but most will get the boot. So will Obama so now lets see what he does. It is on the line. Will he truly be the leader of the free world or a one term wonder? Now we see is he is a man or a mouse.
 

Jae A. (323)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 9:31 pm
Obama should never tried to be bipartisian with health care...had he not we would have had single payer or a public option which is what was the best for America..regardless of what Canada has or does. The dems let the Repubs water the reform bill down to it's present state but after the fact they found that the 'mandatory ' plan might not fly Constitution wise, even though they hate the Constitution in general it's still there...so then they decided since they weren't going to land all those new customers for the Insurance Co.' s they best try and repeal what is left, that is better than nothing for the people of course. Typical greed as always from the Republicans...who couldn't care less about anyone other than thenselves..politicians,...and their bed buds the Corporates. With evil like Orange glow Boner who is nothing but a corporate lacky they plan to once again try and screw the American people with more of their anti-American NO NO NO to anything remotely good for anyone other than themselves and the Corporate scum that they are work for. If Obama tells the Repubs to ...well you know what..then he grew a pair. If he doesn't ...kiss this country bye as the Repubs will have us in a depression before the next election with only the rich having health care.
 

Mac R. (289)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 9:33 pm
And what was that fate, Hans? Nancy and Harry are still there.
 

Crystal T. (20)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 9:35 pm
Northern, the only need for reform is the ludicrous giving of tax cuts to the rich. Dems didn't stuff anything up Americans because the majority of people do not agree with you. You can't speak for the majority because you haven't a clue what they want. The travesty of the Dems is that they didn't go far enough, and that they allowed such a time line that allows fools to speak against it when they haven't even seen how it works. Why don't you shut up until the health care bill takes affect and see whether or not the majority likes its provisions?
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 9:49 pm
Not going to be repealed. Bank on it. I will however sign. Its not a sign of of hysteria but of interest and participation in the outcome. Just like the first time around. I know you wish you were a part of it Northern. Your not though... too bad. Oh and underhanded tactics? ha! that is rich coming from your side of the isle Hans. I have heath insurance. Damn good too. But I don't wish "not having it" on anyone. Guess we are different Hans and I could not be happier about that given what I consider a depraved indifference to the suffering of others by those who would have the Corporate profit makers decide who lives or dies and make up stories about killing grandma to kill the bill and now have the gall to cry about underhanded. LOL.
 

Michael G. (28)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 10:18 pm
This is the fight of our lifetimes...........
 

Margi L. (129)
Wednesday January 5, 2011, 11:41 pm
I would love to say that the Affordable Care Act was worth fighting for. Sadly it mandates that health insurance be mandatory - not access to health care. By trying to compromise and placate the insurance industry they lost sight of the real issue. I've signed and noted it because it is better than the GOP plan. Plan? What plan is that? I am working for a single payer system like HR676.
 

Ben Oscarsito (352)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 2:32 am
Signed!
 

patricia lasek (317)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 4:52 am
Robert S., my dear friend, I applaud you! I couldn't have said it better myself.
Here is a petition at Credo asking politicians to give up their own taxpayer subsidized health insurance. What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Sorry darlings, cut & paste.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/gop_healthcare_hypocrites/index.html?rc=hlinko_1142110_GOPHealth_a2
 

Brittany D. (28)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 7:36 am
Signed

Even though I think the health care bill does not go far enough, it is better than nothing.
 

Arielle S. (315)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 7:46 am
Oh, Nick, you made me laugh with your: "I've said this before, but do you know the difference between the Taliban and the republican party? About 7,000 miles. They are the true terrorists..." Only then, I felt like crying because it's so darn true....
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 8:03 am
Arielle -- Why do you hate Republicans so much? Do you really equate them to the Taliban?

Why Do Liberals Hate Conservatives -

From Karl Marx to today, the Left has always hated people of the Right, not merely differed or been angry with them. The question is, why?

Here are three possible answers.

First, the Left thinks the Right is evil. Granting the exceptions that all generalizations allow for, conservatives believe that those on the left are wrong, while those on the left believe that those on the right are bad. Examples are innumerable. Howard Dean, the former head of the Democratic party, said, “In contradistinction to the Republicans, Democrats don’t believe kids ought to go to bed hungry at night.” Rep. Alan Grayson (D., Fla.), among many similar comments, said, “I want to say a few words about what it means to be a Democrat. It’s very simple: We have a conscience.”

Has any spokesman of the Republican party ever said anything analogous about Democrats’ not caring about the suffering of children or not having a conscience?

Second, when you don’t confront real evil, you hate those who do. You can see this on almost any school playground. The kid who confronts the school bully is often resented more than the bully. Whether out of guilt over their own cowardice or out of fear that the one who confronted the bully will provoke the bully to lash out more, those who refuse to confront the bully often resent the one who does. During the 1980s, the Left expressed far more hatred for Ronald Reagan than for Soviet Communist dictator Leonid Brezhnev. When Reagan labeled the Soviet Union an “evil empire,” the liberal world was enraged . . . at Reagan.

Those (usually on the left) who refused to confront Communism hated those (usually on the right) who did. They called the latter “warmongers” and “cold warriors” and charged them with having “missile envy” and with loving war.

Today, the Left has similar contempt for those who take a hard line on Islamic terror. The liberal and leftist media routinely place quote marks around the words “War on Terror.” To the Left, such a war is manufactured by rightists for nefarious reasons — oil, self-enrichment, imperialism, etc. Indeed, the Obama administration declines to use the term “Islamic terror.” America is at war with a nameless enemy. The enemies this administration is prepared to name are the Republican party, the tea parties, Fox News, and talk radio.

Third, the Left’s utopian vision is prevented only by the Right.

From its inception, leftism has been a secular utopian religion. As Ted Kennedy, paraphrasing his brother Robert F. Kennedy, said, “Some men see things as they are and say, Why? I dream things that never were and say, Why not?” That exemplifies left-wing idealism — imagining a utopian future. There will be no poor, no war, no conflict, no inequality. That future is only a few more government programs away from reality. And who stands in the way of such perfection? Conservatives. How could a utopian not hate a conservative?

This hatred will only increase if the Left feels its programs to greatly increase the size of government are in any way threatened in the forthcoming elections. The problem is that this hatred does not decrease when the Left is in power.

Hatred of conservatives is so much a part of the Left that the day the Left stops hating conservatives will mark the beginning of the end of the Left as we know it.

Denis Prager

 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:31 pm
Government cannot and does NOT provide quality and affordable healthcare to its WARDS, Title 19ers and Vets so what makes anyone think it can for the Populace? And why do you THINK these Polticians and gov't officials want it for the People and NOT them? Duh Insure the Uninsured with THEIR healthplans for the few concessions, these plans will be more in line with the Private Sector. duh Cut gov't overlapping provider agencies OUT and put these services into the Private Sector and GOVERN effectively by Penalizing the criminals because for Decades they have been processing perfect paperwork designed for PAYMENT by taxpayers with little to NO oversight on outcomes. LOOK at all the social ills that burden our society and the COST for ineffective 'paperwork' services that have BANKRUPTED these social programs just in time for the boomers that have paid into them for 4 plus decades to start 'collecting'...Public health for them??? Think they will get the BEST treatment? Lifestyle treatment plans that hold the patient responsible for FAILING to follow them??? Gov't/partership providers to SAY who gets what and when? DO YOUR HOMEWORK and stop buying into Propoganda. Good governance over Private Industry is what and ALL that is needed and OUT of the BUSINESS for DEEP POCKETS
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:31 pm
(OMG credit was given to "Denis Prager". Could truth be sinking in at last? NOT!)

Good words Nicky, Robert, Jae, Mac. Great article Beverly.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:34 pm
Why DO you Think Corporate Entities PAY hundreds of Millions in Campaign funds??? HELLO. Who do you THINK writes these Volumns called 'bills' for Polticians to pass into Laws? Hello. Do your Homework and shut off the boob tube. The dumbing down of AMerican is ridiculous..stop buying books for dummies to learn what you NEED to know and start training your brains to THINK for yourselves.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:36 pm
For Anyone who doesn't Think that BOTH Party's got us into this HOLE is living in Delusion
 

Jae A. (323)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:46 pm
Past Member...that doesn't excuse the actions of the Republicans on this bill.
 

Beverly L. (72)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:50 pm
When the GOP gives up their health insurance....
 

Beverly L. (72)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:50 pm
Well said Robert and kudos!
 

Crystal T. (20)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:54 pm
Hans: I'm assuming that you are just repeating this Prager article... talk about making sweeping generalizations.

I don't hate the Right blanketly because they are conservative. Here are some of the reasons why i hate them...

1. They don't want us to have universal health care because their buddies have gotten rich owning insurance companies, that gouge us and then refuse to pay out when we need it... here's some ludicrous examples I've run into in my life... wouldn't pay the ambulance bill because the city of LA wouldn't make a discount deal with them... wouldn't pay for the anesthesia doctor ordered on colonoscopy because their bureaucrats considered it unnecessary... wouldn't pay for an AIDS test once because it came out negative so it was unnecessary (course if it had been positive, they would have paid for treatment, but I'd've been on the road to death so I'm happy with the outcome -- you'd think they would be happy to pay only $70 but no)...

They want to make tax cuts permanent for the wealthy and then bitch there's no money to pay for government programs of unemployment, Medicare, etc. Oh and by the way, the unemployed pay taxes for those programs out of the meager funds they get that the Right doesn't want them to have. How about cutting their taxes to ZERO?

The Right screamed about all the money we spent globally and were America first until they figured out they could make more money sending all our jobs overseas to countries that still allow exploitation of workers as slaves -- something they would like to do here, but can't... at least not yet.

They want to privatize Social Security so they can hoodwink the public into investing into stocks in their companies to make them even richer. And what has gone down? Stocks! To the point they want taxes to bail out their companies, but of course let's not bail out the unemployed or the sick... only the owners and CEO's of companies, who might lose their jet or one of their vacation homes, or their trip to Europe.

They are now bitching that baby boomers didn't plan well for their retirement and want to use their SS because their 401s have tanked. Well, who did those 401s benefit when the baby boomers got hoodwinked into thinking they were a great idea? Stocks of the companies who have made the rich rich and who now want us to bail them out because heaven help the rich use their own riches.

No, I don't hate the Right because they are conservative or on the Right, I hate them because of what comes out of their mouths and heads.
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:54 pm
Arielle did not use the word hate Hans. Rather than address the comparison she makes you change the subject to hate and post the words of another to make an argument that you seek to create but apparently have not the mind to argue. Though it is easy reading Prager's words to take them apart one by one, he is not here so why bother, and I have already given this more time than you took to paste your silly distraction.
 

Jae A. (323)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 12:55 pm
Not disagreeing with much of what you have posted Past, it's just that we have to make an effort. I did feel you over stated your blanket cover of assumption that there aren't othesr paying attention and doing their homework other than yourself..or that's how it came across.There are a lot who are doing their homework and paying attention..as well as...taking the time to try and change things for the better.
 

Mac R. (289)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 1:21 pm
Hans, Hans, Hans, as usual, you relied on someone else's words to express your thoughts. And what a rambling, unorganized load of babble it turned out to be.

Arielle -- Why do you hate Republicans so much? Do you really equate them to the Taliban?

I can't speak for Arielle, but I think I'm safe in saying that she and I-- and a whole lot of other liberals DO equate them with the Taliban. Yes, yes, yes. The Taliban are the zealots of the far right in Islam, equivalent to the Republiscum here. How can we/I make that comparison? Well let's look at some of the Rep stands that they are pushing for:

1: More war, never ending war, a la McCain saying we could be there for 100 years. Many on the right urging us to attack Iran, constantly, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran. The list of those pols and talking heads who advocate more war is too, too long to type.

2: The Repuliban counts quite a few members who believe in "Intelligent Design" and actually believe the earth is only 6 to ten thousand years old. I don't even need to elaborate on this issue, as it's laughable on its face, even though these wingnuts campaigned on this issue among others that make us blush with embarrassment when other countries point to these things and ridicule us. I know you're just so proud of your rightwing brethren, Hans, but how do you apologize to your German neocon buddies for these wingnuts? Or do you have any buddies?

3: Climate change deniers. Rife throughout the Repuliban is the denial of climate change and the insistence that God gave us this earth to pillage and plunder as we see fit, a view expressed by Palin, Bachman, Santorum, Gingrich, etc... And also that God promised us that he would never again destroy the earth after the great flood. Ahhhh, that makes me rest easy at night. Do you sleep better knowing that your rightwing heroes have assured us of this edict from God, Hans? Don't worry, be happy, God ain't gonna wipe us out again! What a relief!

4: Clean Air Act, Clear Skies Act, etc., bills Repuliban wrote that mean exactly opposite of their moniker, where they gave industry free reign to rape, scar and pollute the country in the name of big profits. All in the name of slashing big government! Big gummint is the problem! Regulations? We don't need no stinkin' regulations! As Bush so often said, let them regulate themselves! They'll ALWAYS do what's right! Why, that Texas rep even APOLOGIZED on the floor of the House to BP for our government being bullies and picking on them when they killed the Gulf of Mexico! How DARE our government even THINK of holding a huge multinational conglomerate accountable for wiping out whole industries and destroying thousands and thousands of lives and spoiling an ocean where they are PAID SUBSIDIES TO DRILL FOR OIL AND MAKE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS CHARGING US $3 + or - DOLLARS A GALLON FOR WHAT OUR GOV PAID THEM TO DRILL!!! The gall of us lefties!

5: Prayer in schools, which MANY Repuliban advocate. While most of them won't say out loud that they would like to gun down and blow up schools that teach to (gasp!) girls, they do say in their campaign ads that a woman's place is in the kitchen, except for those like Angle and O'Donnell, who are busy trying to stamp out masturbation and building altars to Satan, or trying to barter chickens for healthcare. Ahhhhh, I feel so much better knowing women like these were voted for to run for office and make laws that affect me. The Repuliban just seems to inspire such a calm confidence in government; doesn't it for you, Hans? Too bad those two in particular didn't make it. It would have been more entertaining than Jersey Shore.

6: The Repuliban fought against Death Panels! Thank God they got the healthcare bill watered down to the point where they got the government Death Panels removed so Aetna, Well Point and Blue Cross could keep dignified and professional Death Panels in the boardroom where they belong-- not in some gov bureaucrat's office.

7: Taking away our civil rights makes us safer! As Bushler and Dick the Hunter explained, spying on us and data mining our emails and phone calls makes us safer. Groping and fingering us at the airport makes us safer. Torture and Extraordinary Rendition makes us safer. Black Site hidden prison/torture chambers make us safer. The Geneva Conventions that America wrote are "quaint" (Cheney) and our Constitution is just a piece of paper (Bush).

8: Corporations are People! Roberts, Alito and Scalia said so! And it must be true because Bush bailed them out by tossing them trillions and not even asking them what they did with the money. Obama finished it out for them so he must be the neocon's bestest friend.

Now let's address some of the points made in this incredibly insightful tome by the esteemed Dennis Prager, who just EVERYBODY who is Anybody knows is the brightest mind in America, right? And he's been right about so many things, like the time he repeated over and over that we would be greeeted as liberators in Iraq, how the people would throw roses at our soldiers' feet! Oh yes! That sure panned out! Dear Sage Dennis was right on the money when he repeated the party line that the Iraq war would pay for itself with their oil. Yeah, ol' Denny is such a wise man!

I'll insert my comments with @@ to start.

Why Do Liberals Hate Conservatives -

From Karl Marx to today, the Left has always hated people of the Right, not merely differed or been angry with them. The question is, why?

@@ See list above and add a thousand and one points to it. That's why.

Here are three possible answers.

First, the Left thinks the Right is evil. Granting the exceptions that all generalizations allow for, conservatives believe that those on the left are wrong, while those on the left believe that those on the right are bad. Examples are innumerable. Howard Dean, the former head of the Democratic party, said, “In contradistinction to the Republicans, Democrats don’t believe kids ought to go to bed hungry at night.” Rep. Alan Grayson (D., Fla.), among many similar comments, said, “I want to say a few words about what it means to be a Democrat. It’s very simple: We have a conscience.”

@@ I couldn't have said it better than Alan did.

Has any spokesman of the Republican party ever said anything analogous about Democrats’ not caring about the suffering of children or not having a conscience?

@@ NO, they haven't because you guys DON'T have a conscience and we do! Real simple!

Second, when you don’t confront real evil, you hate those who do. You can see this on almost any school playground. The kid who confronts the school bully is often resented more than the bully.

@@ WHAT??????? NO, you moron, the kid who stands up to the bully IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS a hero loved by all!!! What a mindlessly stupid thing to say!!! What twisted logic did you contort your mind to use to come up with this whole analogy, Dennis?

Whether out of guilt over their own cowardice or out of fear that the one who confronted the bully will provoke the bully to lash out more, those who refuse to confront the bully often resent the one who does. During the 1980s, the Left expressed far more hatred for Ronald Reagan than for Soviet Communist dictator Leonid Brezhnev. When Reagan labeled the Soviet Union an “evil empire,” the liberal world was enraged . . . at Reagan.

@@ Reagan, Mr. Dementia, was the great conservative/small government hero who wanted to make government small enough to drown in a bathtub. So he gifted America with its first $$TRILLION$$ dollar debt, grew the government bureaucracy to unprecedented extraordinary levels of bloating and then forgot who he was.

Those (usually on the left) who refused to confront Communism hated those (usually on the right) who did. They called the latter “warmongers” and “cold warriors” and charged them with having “missile envy” and with loving war.

@@ Yep, that's pretty much right on the money!

Today, the Left has similar contempt for those who take a hard line on Islamic terror. The liberal and leftist media routinely place quote marks around the words “War on Terror.” To the Left, such a war is manufactured by rightists for nefarious reasons — oil, self-enrichment, imperialism, etc. Indeed, the Obama administration declines to use the term “Islamic terror.” America is at war with a nameless enemy. The enemies this administration is prepared to name are the Republican party, the tea parties, Fox News, and talk radio.

@@ Yep, again, Prager ol' buddy, you pretty much got that one rightwing.

Third, the Left’s utopian vision is prevented only by the Right.

@@ And the corporate masters over all of them.

From its inception, leftism has been a secular utopian religion. As Ted Kennedy, paraphrasing his brother Robert F. Kennedy, said, “Some men see things as they are and say, Why? I dream things that never were and say, Why not?” That exemplifies left-wing idealism — imagining a utopian future. There will be no poor, no war, no conflict, no inequality. That future is only a few more government programs away from reality. And who stands in the way of such perfection? Conservatives. How could a utopian not hate a conservative?

@@ Indeed, my evil neocon friend, who could resist hating evil people? We hate you not for your freedoms, but for your insanely evil greed and hatred of the American way.

This hatred will only increase if the Left feels its programs to greatly increase the size of government are in any way threatened in the forthcoming elections. The problem is that this hatred does not decrease when the Left is in power.

@@ That's rich, coming from the side that created Homeland Security, a bureaucracy that dwarfed ALL gov bureaucracies, other than the military, in the HISTORY of the United States! This coming from the side who took a budget surplus of billions and turned it into trillion dollar debt, again--- they didn't want to break the continuity of Repuliban presidents running the government into debt and Dems having to come in and correct it.

Hatred of conservatives is so much a part of the Left that the day the Left stops hating conservatives will mark the beginning of the end of the Left as we know it.

@@ The end of the left hating the right will be the day morons like you renounce your selfish, greedy ignorant hatred of all things compassionate and equitable. It will be the day you wingnuts admit that "trickle down" economics is exactly as Bushler Senior called it: Voodoo Economics. It will be the day you stop wanting children to go hungry while your corporate butt buddies jet off to Dubai to rape some other third world nation and exploit every living thing on the planet. It will be the day people like you interrupt the flow of verbal diarrhea issuing form your mouths long enough to acknowledge that you are wrong on every main point you make.

Dennis Prager
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 1:27 pm
Jae..Who are you addressing?

Crystal, Thought you were taking the bait for a minute but you spoke well. This thought of yours I liked in particular, though you make other good points also...

"The Right screamed about all the money we spent globally and were America first until they figured out they could make more money sending all our jobs overseas to countries that still allow exploitation of workers as slaves -- something they would like to do here, but can't... at least not yet."

That is so important in its impact on where we find ourselves. And you point out the hypocrisy of the right wing flag wavers and how what they really love about America is that they can exploit it, rape it, and get away with waving that flag and saying they love it while selling out its citizens for a buck.


 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 1:37 pm
Mac, Excellent Sir,
You truly have me laughing out loud. Well done.
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 2:33 pm
When the right (Republicans) made the "devils bargain" with the Fundamentalists in order to win that voting block and get their sorry asses elected, they got in bed with a movement which seeks to control the lives of others make of this nation a theocracy whereby their views are law. In this bargain, even taken on its own, the right earned comparisons made between them and the Taliban. Backward, irrational extremists who seek to control the lives of others by imposing their views on others by making those views law and are willing to resort to violence in that effort. Yes. A valid comparison. What about "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is so unclear? Its not unclear. Some simply seek to ignore/get around it, it by the denial of it. We don't want the Taliban here. But we have our own brand and it should be recognized.
 

Roger Garin-michaud (61)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 2:36 pm
some corrupt politicians are really disgusting beings !
 

Mary Donnelly (46)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 3:25 pm
Thanks Beverly for post and discussion. Petition signed and sent.
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 3:53 pm
Love this guy, and here at this site below we see lots of reasons for that. We need more like him.

http://www.anthonyweiner.com/weiner-tv
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 3:58 pm
Oh, see "GOP Wholly owned" at the site above. Its a twofer. Ya get Anthony and Rachel too... and they both speak the truth quite eloquently.
 

Jae A. (323)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 4:25 pm

:-)
 

Beverly L. (72)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 4:28 pm
Kudos Robert and Mac, damn I love you guys!
 

Jae A. (323)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 5:24 pm
Now everyone should understand how Mac and I have made our relationship/marriage last 30 years so far :-)...and it only seems like a short time to both of us.

Right on Mac.. !
 

Jeanne M. (84)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 7:09 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you, Beverly.
 

Beverly L. (72)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 9:27 pm
Yeah Jae, I can see how it works for you and Mac, wish I could find a guy half as compassionate, fearless and intelligent as you two.
 

Beverly L. (72)
Thursday January 6, 2011, 9:51 pm
Oh Robert, you hit it on the nose. Theocracy, that's what we're heading for if we don't stick to our guns and stand up to the GOP/Right wingers. With God as their co-pilot the Grand Old Party (damn I snicker every time I hear that) is more a religious cult than a political organization with the Far Right holding their hands and filling their pockets, intent on bringing biblical principles to government as interpreted by the Radical Right, with total disregard for constitutional and civil rights protections.
 

Kit B. (277)
Friday January 7, 2011, 6:58 am
I'm standing and applauding - great comments by most on this thread. Jae and Mac nicely done and thanks for getting a great discussions going.

Robert, I too like Wiener only wish we could clone he and Dennis Kucinich. Yes, it is true, republicans are now so deeply in bed with the theocrats even they don't know where one ends and the other begins.

Really? Once again we come back to that old, stale and silly argument that after 105 years health care reform was "shoved" on any one? Please certainly you can do better for an argument. It is the one primary job of every person elected to congress to READ, the bills and vote their constituency. So please - it was not shoved on any one, and if it were any more compromised for the republicans it would be 5,000 pages. A far more comprehensive bill is needed, and will in a few years over write this one.

Always using that silly argument that if one finds the entire platform of the republicans to be an anathema of all things American, then it's not just a firmly held set of ideas, it must be hate language. If that's the best you can do, you do need to rely on others to do your speaking for you.
 

Kit B. (277)
Friday January 7, 2011, 7:00 am
I'm standing and applauding - great comments by most on this thread. Jae and Mac nicely done and thanks for getting a great discussions going.

Robert, I too like Wiener only wish we could clone he and Dennis Kucinich. Yes, it is true, republicans are now so deeply in bed with the theocrats even they don't know where one ends and the other begins.

Really? Once again we come back to that old, stale and silly argument that after 105 years health care reform was "shoved" on any one? Please certainly you can do better for an argument. It is the one primary job of every person elected to congress to READ, the bills and vote their constituency. So please - it was not shoved on any one, and if it were any more compromised for the republicans it would be 5,000 pages. A far more comprehensive bill is needed, and will in a few years over write this one.

Always using that silly argument that if one finds the entire platform of the republicans to be an anathema of all things American, then it's not just a firmly held set of ideas, it must be hate language. If that's the best you can do, you do need to rely on others to do your speaking for you.
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Friday January 7, 2011, 7:33 am
Alright already.
 

pam w. (191)
Friday January 7, 2011, 9:28 am
Tossing roses and HUZZAHS to Jae, Mac...and Kit's last paragraph is GOLDEN!
 

Just Carole (341)
Friday January 7, 2011, 9:59 am

My thanks (again) to Miss Kitty for pointing me to this very important article . . . and KUDOS to Beverly for posting it!

Action definitely taken.

 

Just Carole (341)
Friday January 7, 2011, 10:06 am

My goodness, so many excellent comments here have once again (but gladly) depleted my greenstar budget for the week!

Great article!
 

michael sullivan (1027)
Friday January 7, 2011, 10:49 am
Signed, sealed, and delivered -- I thought it quite ironic that the Republicans, who don't really give a damn about the U.S. Constitution, pushed for reading it out loud in the House chamber -- what were/are they trying to prove -- that they can read?
 

Robert S. (115)
Friday January 7, 2011, 2:46 pm
Rep. Hurt Fumbles Trying To Explain Why He'll Repeal America's Health Care, Keep Taxpayer Health Care For Himself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1omdMT9Mw&feature=player_embedded

It seems the nation in its wisdom has now and again elected people who have a plan based on zero knowledge and not a clue as to the irony of their position.
 

Crystal T. (20)
Friday January 7, 2011, 6:44 pm
Thank you Robert S. I'd send you a green star but the system says that I already have this week. As you see I have some burning issues. My entire childhood was spent with Republicans saying America first and we can't do all this stuff for other countries. Well, they probably still don't want to help other places, but they sure don't mind exporting all our jobs so their profit margin is bigger.
 

Crystal T. (20)
Friday January 7, 2011, 6:51 pm
Yes, and the dumb Democrats don't seem to realize that those who voted these clowns into office didn't do it on wanting policy changes but on stupid sound bites, vacuous statements and outright lies. I love watching these Republican idiots on television -- they repeat the same line, even after they are told and shown proof that what they are saying is a lie. Oh, wait, they haven't been shown the document because it is put up in front of them electronically, not in their hand, because they are speaking through video, but they sure can keep spouting the lie.

Yeah, won because they vowed to cut taxes ... yeah who wouldn't want to cut taxes, until you realize what you don't have money to pay for.
give tax cuts to the rich... yeah that don't sound so bad until you realize what you don't have money to pay for.
cut unnecessary programs... until you realize what programs those are.

Notice the Republicans never said anything of substance. People are just supposed to follow them because they say so and are... right. Hey, maybe they are like the Taliban, after all.
 

Michael Carney (206)
Friday January 7, 2011, 6:54 pm
After reading the responses, of most of the people who left comments, just have to say, Bravo!!! All of you Ladies and Gentlemen, have made excellent points, of which there can be no agrument...And Hans, I personally don't hate Conservatives, and Republicans, I feel sorry for you all...And I think you guys really hate yourselves, because in those black holes called your hearts, you know everything you support and stand for, is, morally, and ethically wrong, and goes against everything Jesus taught...You all are devoid of compassion, and love of your fellow members of society...you all claim to love Jesus, but all you do is worship false Idols...The Corporations...So I know you really hate yourselves, but being a person who has compassion for others and cares about peoples suffering, and people being able to go to a Doctor to stay healthy...I feel sorry for you all...It must really suck, to be a conservative, and or Republican, and the tea baggers, well, I hope you have health insurance, cause you'll need it when you go see your shrinks, and get your meds...
 

Crystal T. (20)
Friday January 7, 2011, 6:58 pm
Robert s, And here is what that idiot Congressman isn't saying when he insists he'll repeal America's health care but keep the good taxpayer health care for himself:

He isn't telling the public that If he gets hisr way, insurance companies will once again have the right to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, drop or limit coverage if you become sick, and charge women higher premiums than men. Seniors will lose critical prescription drug savings and free preventive care under Medicare.

That he wants to keep getting that extra money and services by looking out for special interests rather than working together to create jobs and grow the economy.

And that behind the scenes, insurance-industry lobbyists are working overtime with Republicans to take us back to the days when their clients were able to do whatever they wanted. And will keep fattening the Congressman in the process. Slimy you know what.
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Friday January 7, 2011, 7:09 pm
Yes Michael, spoken like a true Christian. One can always tell those that adhere to and practice their faith.
 

Mac R. (289)
Friday January 7, 2011, 7:57 pm
But Hans, didn't ya know that Ronald Reagan is the new GOD of conservatives? They canonized him before he died, though he wasn't aware of that, but then when he died they simply decided he IS God now. Does that mean John Boner is his only begotten son? I'm just askin'......
 

Robert S. (115)
Friday January 7, 2011, 9:32 pm
Democratic leaders in Washington plan to spend the next week doing what they all but refused to do in the 2010 midterm elections: mount a vigorous defense of President Obama’s health care legislation.

The “all fronts” plan is a response to the decision by the new House speaker, John A. Boehner, to schedule a vote next Wednesday on a complete repeal of the health care law that Mr. Obama signed last March.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/06/democrats-plan-attack-on-republican-repeal-effort/?hp
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Saturday January 8, 2011, 9:45 am
I guess you're just kidding Mac.
 

Jason Flint (5)
Saturday January 8, 2011, 4:26 pm
signed and noted
 

Mac R. (289)
Sunday January 9, 2011, 2:36 am
I mean, John Boner is too orange to be the Holy Ghost, so, you know... I'm just wondering who's who in the new theocracy in 2011DC. Is Christine O'Donnell Jezebel? Is Sarah Palin Joan of Parka? Ya gotta admit, she's pretty good at martyrdom. I'm here all week, folks!
 

Caitlin Mac (102)
Sunday January 9, 2011, 10:44 am
I have never read a better-written analysis than that shown in Beverly's first post, including her own words in the last 2 paragraphs. My only complaint about any posting is that when others' words are being copied, please indicate the source (and using beginning and ending quotes (") would be helpful, too).

Beverly, Kit, Mac & Jae, Robert S. and others have been brilliant here in my opinion, especially in countering with fact and intelligent humor the assertions of Hans & company.

Mac is the master of fact couched in humor (heavily laced with sarcasm--so what) and he's also devised a good plan to satisfy my above request for accountability when mixing quoted and original passages. Thanks Mac for being brilliant and practical.

I feel embarrassed for leaving this post because I'm not adding anything of substance. I certainly agree that this petition MAY be superfluous since the repeal is unlikely to pass the Senate or a veto by the Prez, but I signed it (and others similar to it) in order to let Congress know that it is the majority of people in America who want this reform (and more). Every time the Republiban quotes what "America wants" I shudder. First, they don't know what we want and, second, they don't CARE what we want. How absurd can it get? We'll probably have a chance to see, unfortunately.

Thank you Beverly for posting this and hosting such a great conversation. And I appreciate Kit's letting me know for perhaps the 2nd time that this was a conversation to witness. Good work everyone!
 

Robert S. (115)
Sunday January 9, 2011, 11:41 am
Hugs Caitlin. Patricia, I did cut paste and sign this one which you put up on Thursday and I paste it again in case anyone missed it, with thanks to you, Beverly and all, for your efforts.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/gop_healthcare_hypocrites/index.html?rc=hlinko_1142110_GOPHealth_a2

 

Beverly L. (72)
Monday January 10, 2011, 6:35 am
Thanks for sharing the credoaction link Robert, happily signed!
 

Robert S. (115)
Monday January 10, 2011, 7:08 am
Patricia gets credit. I just re pasted it , but your welcome.
 
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