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Noam Chomsky: Why America and Israel Are the Greatest Threats to Peace


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Carrie
- 722 days ago - alternet.org
It is not easy to escape from one's skin, to see the world differently from the way it is presented to us day after day. But it is useful to try. Let's take a few examples.



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Seda A. (4)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 1:58 am
thanks for posting.
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (379)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 2:15 am
I don't agree with most of what is said in this article, it's way too extreme and one sided, but I really oppose my governments declaring the attack on Iran, and see no purpose in stirring up the region once again and causing deaths of innocent people, when no one can promise me that this act will solve the Iranian problem or any problem for that matter. It will just cause more problems.
 

Pat A. (117)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 3:28 am
Thought provoking article - thanks Carrie!
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 4:40 am
> [Chomsky is] way too extreme and one sided
what an extremely one-sided view, to call someone who keeps reminding us of and advocating the principle of universality, "extreme and one sided" ... shows how extremely brainwashen (actually it's more like mind-raped) people have besome
--
" Consider the principle of universality, perhaps the most elementary of moral principles: we apply to ourselves the standards we apply to others, if not more stringent ones. The principle is universal, or nearly so, in three further respects: it is found in some form in every moral code; it is universally applauded in words, and consistently rejected in practice. " -- Noam Chomsky


 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 4:49 am
Namasté, Noam !
Thanks for this valuable post !
==
for my archives (i would have guessed the trend, nice to have data):
" [I]n a recent ranking of the 31 members of the OECD in terms of social justice, the US placed 27th, despite its extraordinary advantages."


 

Diane B. (275)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 6:54 am
thanks for posting this Carrie
 

TomCat S. (286)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 8:27 am
An excellent post
 

DORIS L. (61)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 8:59 am
I'm glad I'm not younger. I get the impression living long enough to see how this all pans out will not be pleasant....
 

s M. (0)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:35 am
Thanks for posting.
 

Robert O. (12)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:59 am
Great article! Thanks Carrie.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 2:07 pm
America and Israel have been the greatest threat to world peace since Israel's inception in 1948.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 2:09 pm
Chomsky is as stupid in politics, as ever. Why wouldn't he do instead some linguistics, the field that he knows about.
 

Carrie B. (309)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 2:41 pm
Robert O. with red truck, I completely agree!
 

Patricia Martin (19)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 4:24 pm
Noam Chomsky's VIEWS about Israel and the U.S. are one of the biggest threats to world peace.

His scapegoatism has given every Muslim totalitarian dictator and their pawns great cover, as well as all the oil thirst countries making sure to say the right things and make the Muslims happy.


 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 4:29 pm
> [Chomsky's] scapegoatism has given every Muslim totalitarian dictator and their pawns great cover
which, of course, supports them enourmously more then the $$ bio and $$ bio wortz of weapons what the U.$.of Amnesia is supplying to such totalitarian dictators !

O Mighty Chomsky !
 

Vicky P. (463)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 4:41 pm
Great article, true, thanks for posting :)
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 5:53 pm
War is an industry. Corporations make Billions from it; politicians earn capital by hawking for it. Most of the people of these countries don't want war...only our leaders want to continue beating the divisive drums.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 5:57 pm
Patricia, Chomsky supported not only Muslim dictators: here defended Campuchea Polpot Communists and also compared Polpot murderers with US government. Now this creature, O Mighty Chomsky, wants Obama in power.

Let's everyone make their own conclusions...
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:03 pm
AS A FOREIGNER (TO THE U S A ). I am shocked to see so many who refuse to take the blinkers from their eyes.

I cannot see one sentence written by Chomsky in this article that isn't verified or verifiable in facts.

There is only one nation occupying, in some form or another, of most of the countries on earth, and that is the U S A. There is only one nation (U S A) that has taken over a nation and exiled all of its citizens (without compensation). "Diego Garcia" . There is one nation (U S A ) that allowed Israel to deliberately bomb an American ship (U S S Liberty) killing and wounding American servicemen and never condemned the act.

Remove your blinkers and try steering your country into a position on top of the heap, where it rightfully belongs, and not at the bottom in health, welfare, education.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 6:26 am
Tom, your post is similar to what Chomsky says - always blame USA. Because if you blame others - Russia, China, Arab States - one may get hurt.

Arab states often exile minorities of the "wrong type", be it in Africa or in the Middle East. They do it all the time, and UN is silent. The latest example is mass expulsion Christians from Gaza, Iraq and Egypt.

USS Liberty was an obvious error by Israel, for which Israel paid compensation to the vicitms and for the ship, apologized and the incident was officially closed. In comparison, Hesbola Arab bombing of peace keepers, sleeping in their barracks in Lebanon, was deliberate, with no compensation or apologies issued by any Arab or Islamic bodies.

You are absolutely right about spending US money on "health, welfare, education". Instead, Obama just gifted Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood with 1 BILLION Bucks.

Some people do need to "remove your blinkers and try steering your country into a position on top of the heap, where it rightfully belongs".


 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 10:48 am
To call an article or point of view extreme and one-sided without giving a single reason for your view is the kind of lazy, simple minded, and excuse me, stupid, kind of thinking that has the world in the present shape it is at present.

This what is called reactionary thinking. No investigation. No analysis. No thoughtfulness. Just a gut feeling that feels good.

Giana, please tell me you are childless. I would hate to think of the offsprings that originate from someone like yourself , and brought up by you.
 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:00 am
Here are some facts from Wikipedia. Defense budget: US 711 billion. The next closest is China with 143 billion, and Russia with 71 billion. The US is first in arms exported. Russia is second, and China is third.

If your military budget is 41% of the first ten countries with the highest military budgets you make your self a threat to world peace with your over reliance on weapons.

 

Carrie B. (309)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 11:52 am
Bob, the USS Liberty was not an obvious error.

"Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.


Torpedo hole in USS Liberty

“Why would our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate. [Newsday]

Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery. [Washington Report]"
 

Carrie B. (309)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 2:33 pm
Terrance, that was a very unkind thing to say to Giana. I don't appreciate personal attacks of that nature nor do most of those on care2.
 

Jessie Cross (295)
Thursday September 6, 2012, 5:15 am
Very interesting and some people should try to think outside the box they've lived in all their lives - it's true.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday September 9, 2012, 9:15 pm
"Chomsky is as stupid in politics, as ever. Why wouldn't he do instead some linguistics, the field that he knows about."

Bob, this isn't your field and you certainly have plenty to say about it which is usually nonsense. When you aren't getting it completely wrong, the only time you provide a source for your argument actually disproves your claims, proves mine, and yet you love to use that word "stupid" so often.
 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Friday September 14, 2012, 10:30 am
You are right Carrie. I apologize Giana. I guess I am to over whelmed by the nature of politics in the US and worldwide. I hope Giana accepts my apology. Thanks Carrie.
 
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