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Sam Bacile, Anti-Islam Filmmaker, In Hiding After Protests


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Carrie
- 772 days ago - huffingtonpost.com
An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding after a YouTube trailer of his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya.



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Aletta Kraan (146)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 7:55 pm
Noted !!
 

Michael Carney (211)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:28 am
This guy, and scum bags like Terry Jones, ought to be held responsible for what's happened over there...They caused the death's of 4 people, and have caused a major problem for the United States over in the Middle East...Where's Mitt Romney's outrage at the real people responsible for this terrible tragedy?
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (385)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:42 am
The area is heated up enough as it is there is no need to make the flames higher!! Although art is an expression form and there is freedom of speech.
 

Arlene Mary Baladi (40)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 4:42 am
Everyone has the right to their opinion in this world...even you.
 

Carol H. (229)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 5:00 am
noted, thanks Carrie. I agree with Michael!!
 

Cheryl B. (64)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 5:09 am
I agree with Michael... there's freedom of speech, but we shouldn't trash other people's religions....I hope the world knows that this film was made by extremists.... the majority of Americans don;t agree with this sort of thing
 

Anne P. (251)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 5:40 am
What a traitorous coward. He stirs up the hornet's nest and then goes into hiding to protect his own sorry ass. I have nothing but contempt for him.
 

monka blank (82)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 9:43 am
I agree with Michael and Cheryl ": but we shouldn't trash other people's religions....I hope the world knows that this film was made by extremists..." If you want to watch what's happening in reality, go and watch "5 broken camera's", a film made by an Israeli and a Palestinian, a co - production, it's an eye opener, nominated in Cannes.
 

monka blank (82)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 10:17 am
Bacile's film hasn't got to do anything with art at all. Those many Jews who supported that coward should be hold responsible, too. It's obvious they don't want peace, they are full of hate. They are a disgrace to humankind. They will be judged by what they really are : hatemongers. They mustn't be surprised of the consequences.....
 

Wild Thang (9)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:15 am
Some people no doubt would like to spark relgious war but then some people also want to be sparked. The fixation of the human mind on ideological fantasy worlds knows no bounds but it could be the undoing of our species... a species incapable of handling a higher mind while still being addicted to instictive territorial and dominance behaviors..
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:34 am
I debated posting this because there seems to be more going on here. Too many conflicting stories about this Bacile person. I cannot put my finger on it yet but the whole situation, more especially the pain it has cost those who were killed, leaves room for pause. What force was really behind the death, killing, of an America Ambassador?

Who's really behind this vicious agenda that certainly stirs deep emotions in a people "We" have seen, year after year, attacked for their faith? What political party does this latest violence serve?

Many "Questions" and, as yet, no facts that we can dig our truth into. Glad you posted Carrie. It opens up the debate and more info as THE TRUTH, hopefully, unfolds.

Hear what an actress says about the deception surround this film.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/anti-islam-filmmaker/index.htm

Does 'Sam Bacile' – the person allegedly behind the film that has triggered violence in Libya – even exist? http://www.care2.com/news/member/827551733/3451202

Opposing view: Why 'Sam Bacile' deserves arrest

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/story/2012-09-12/Sam-Bacile-Anthea-Butler/57769732/1
 

Suzanne L. (156)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:35 am
It may be an ugly film, but it's just a film, just like a cartoon is just a cartoon. It doesn't represent the majority of public opinion in the U.S. and It is not a reason to riot violently and kill people who had nothing to do with the making of it. I think the reaction actually substantiates Bacile's point.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:00 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Carrie because you have done so within the last week.

Suzanne I cannot agree with your comment..You are not going through this oppression! This constant insult to a peoples faith that's become relentless and vicious, is an abomination. Violence only begets violence but, "We": are not living and watching family members suffering and dying in these Middle East countries. Those who follow Islam, understandably, are feeling the threat against their faith. It's not imagined! It's real!

"We" are the intruder in this drama which is part of what's stirring anger across the Middle East. Our relationship with Israel another. Our misguided wars certainly are adding fuel to the fire as they have led to serious debates, understandably, here in America!

Americans are sick of this constant betrayal of trust as well. Most American's are sick of war as a way to do what? Make Peace? Give me a break!

Soon as this violence, death of an "American Ambassador", unfolded in Libya our government sent in ground troops. Now "We" have an excuse to put feet on the ground. Under the pretense of what? finding the people behind this killing? Please!

In my opinion, there's far more to this story then meets the eye. We may never know who the true players are. The way this unfolded was two fold! 1. Blame Israel! 2. Blame Coptic Christians.

knee jerk re-actions are not wise considering the game plan being played out in the Middle East by the major players, which America and Israel are certainly one. Not to leave out the French government who has a huge stake in Libya. There's more to this story.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:01 pm
By the way, I saw several scenes from this film and it sickened me.
 

Robert O. (12)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:18 pm
Bacile is a veritable P.O.S. who created a film (I use that term very loosely) that is not freedom of speech or expression but as a shameful tool to stir up strife and unrest in regions that already are under the brink of explosion. He is truly contemptable. Thanks Carrie.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:19 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Carrie because you have done so within the last week.

Suzanne I cannot agree with your comment..You are not going through this oppression! This constant insult to a peoples faith that's become relentless and vicious is an abomination. Violence only begets violence but, "We": are not living and watching family members suffering and dying in these Middle East countries. Those who follow Islam, understandably, are feeling the threat against their faith. It's not imagined! It's real!

"We" are the intruder in this drama which is part of what's stirring anger across the Middle East. Our relationship with Israel another. Our misguided wars certainly are as they have led to serious debates, understandably, here in America! Americans are sick of this constant betrayal of trust as well. Most American's are sick of war as a way to do what? Make Peace? Give me a break!

Soon as this violence, death of an "American Ambassador" unfolded in Libya our government sent in ground troops. Now "We" have an excuse to put feet on the ground. Under the pretense of what? finding the people behind this killing? Please! In my opinion, there's far more to this story then meets the eye. We may never know who the true players are till the story dies down.

The way this unfolded was two fold!

1. Blame Israel! 2. Blame Coptic Christians.

knee jerk re-actions are not wise considering the game plan being played out in the Middle East by the major players, which America and Israel are certainly one. Not to leave out the French government who has a huge stake in Libya.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:21 pm
Sorry for the doubles Carrie. I posted a comment and when I came back to your post it was gone. I refreshed the page several timnes and still the comment was no where to be seen.. Cest La Vie! So I posted again and lo and behold the other comment came up..
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:22 pm
From a Friend who knows more about the American Ambassador that was killed..

"Mr. Christopher Stephens was the ambassador who was killed, was a friend of the Arab world. He was a friend of Islam. Indeed, he was a Muslim himself. He followed the spiritual Islam.

He was a Sufi. He was a spokesman for democracy in the Arab world in the US State Department. We really have lost a great friend of ours." (Mossad killed him because he converted to Islam).
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:29 pm
Saudi Arabia, Qatar finance terrorism in Arab world: Libya politician

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09/13/261326/saudis-qataris-finance-terrorism/

Excerpt: "However, the violent reaction in Libya, the destruction of the consulate in Benghazi, the killing of the ambassador and the colleagues is an act of murder. It’s not justified by the film in any way.

We Muslims mustn’t behave in this way. We must respect international law. Indeed, we must respect Islam itself.

Mr. Christopher Stephens was the ambassador who was killed, was a friend of the Arab world. He was a friend of Islam. Indeed, he was a Muslim himself. He followed the spiritual Islam. He was a Sufi. He was a spokesman for democracy in the Arab world in the US State Department. We really have lost a great friend of ours.

What happened in Benghazi yesterday must be condemned by the whole world. We Muslims condemn it. We in the Democratic Party condemn it. " More at link
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:37 pm
Listen to what Stephen Lendman, an American Jew, writer and activist says about this latest violent incident in Libya

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09/13/261326/saudis-qataris-finance-terrorism/
 

John B. (173)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 12:47 pm
Thanks Carrie for providing the link to the Huffington Post article by Shaya Mohajer. Sam Bacile should be hunted down and charged with accessory to murder. Read and noted!
 

Barbara W. (342)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 2:00 pm
http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3451630

Jewish Lawmaker. US-Made Anti-Islam Film Insults All Divine Religions:

"An Iranian lawmaker representing the country’s Jews in Iran parliament (Majlis) has slammed the anti-Islam movie produced in the US which insults Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) as an insult by Zionism to all divine religions. "
 

Sue Matheson (72)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 2:44 pm
thanks
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 3:14 pm
Thank you Carrie for posting this important issue. I was about to post it based on a report by Associated Press dated September 13 which was modified later Sep 13, 4:13 PM EDT as follows:

APNewsBreak: US identifies anti-Muslim filmmaker

By EILEEN SULLIVAN and STEPHEN BRAUN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal authorities have identified a Coptic Christian in southern California who is on probation after his conviction for financial crimes as the key figure behind the anti-Muslim film that ignited mob violence against U.S. embassies across the Mideast, a U.S. law enforcement official told The Associated Press on......

However,due to being (as you know)still sick and in bed,I dropped the idea of posting it myself knowing that many members of care2 will do it and here we are.
1 - I think the majority of people who shared their comments so far agreed that there is a difference between"trashing other people's religion" and freedom of expression and that the movie in question isn't a piece of art.
2 - Killing is not justified and what happened to the American Ambassador in Libya and other diplomats is a crime whether he was a Muslim or belongs to any other religion.Killers must be taken to court to get their punishment.
3 - Whoever made this movie and whoever produced it,the fact is still the goal was not entertainment or education.It was a message of hatred meant to provocate Muslims to achieve a political target against Muslims in general and Arabs in particular.Is Israel behind it or at least some Mossad agents under cover? May be considering AP reports.
4 - Actors and actresses who played in this movie were misled and a lot of montage was used to serve the purpose of the producer.Review what that actress said.
5 - There are still a lot of question marks around the producer and source of the movie budget.
6 - Islam protects diplomats from any harm during their duty not only Geneva accords in this respect.This,being clear,was the reason behind the withdrawal of tens of hundreds of protesters against USA embassy in Cairo.In Libya a very limited group committed the crime and most possible they didn't intend to kill diplomats as news sources say.Libyans later expressed their sorrow for what happened to the Ambassador( Libya's friend as they described him ). Again and I confirm this is not a justification of the crime in Libya or Cairo.
Sorry I have to rest and may be come back if I can later.
 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 3:47 pm
ty
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 6:27 pm
I also agree with michael
 

Mitchell D. (129)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 6:48 pm
What Israeli!!??
According to what I saw/heard on CNN the guy is a Coptic (Christian)Egyptian, who has a criminal record and done time in the U.S. . They referred to his making methamphetamines, along the way.
 

Frank S. (459)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:07 pm
The filmmaker is not Jewish, authorities have already found out who he is.

Feds ID anti-Islam filmmaker who sparked protests

“In California, the AP traced a cellphone number used by Bacile to a southern California house where Nakoula was found.”- cbsnews.com

“Bacile initially claimed a Jewish and Israeli background. But others involved in the film said his statements were contrived as evidence mounted that the film's key player was a southern Californian Coptic Christian with a checkered past.”- cbsnews.com

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57512420/feds-id-anti-islam-filmmaker-who-sparked-protests/
 

Billie C. (2)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 8:59 pm
the guy that did this was from egypt and the movie was paid for by people in egypt. we had nothing to do with it. that fool not only got us involved he got israeli involved. time to get that word out not that it will help. muslim nuts don't care as long as they can kill americans.
time to pull out and let them rot.
 

Roger M. (0)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:00 pm
Yeah, hiding seems like a plan. I know that's what I'd do.

This is the the first I've gathered about the content of the film. It seems that neither side comes out of this with any credit at all.
 

jo M. (3)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:47 pm
I agree wholeheartedly Suzanne. These people will use any excuse for violence, they are an evil, ignorant lot.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Friday September 14, 2012, 11:25 am
The Provocateurs Know Politics and Religion Don't Mix

It only takes a couple of loonies a few seconds to kick off a miniature war in the Muslim world

By Robert Fisk

September 13, 2012 "The Independent" -- So another internet clever-clogs sets the Middle East on fire: Prophet cartoons, then Koranic book-burning, now a video of robed "terrorists" and a fake desert. The Western-Christian perpetrators then go into hiding (an essential requisite for publicity) while the innocent are asphyxiated, beheaded and otherwise done to death – outrageous Muslim revenge thus "proving" the racist claims of the trash peddlers that Islam is a violent religion.

The provocateurs, of course, know that politics and religion don’t mix in the Middle East. They are the same. Christopher Stevens, his diplomat colleagues in Benghazi, priests in Turkey and Africa, UN personnel in Afghanistan; they have all paid the price for those ‘Christian priests’, ‘cartoonists’, ‘film-makers’ and ‘authors’ – the inverted commas are necessary to mark a thin line between illusionists and the real thing – who knowingly choose to provoke 1.6 billion Muslims.

When a Danish cartoon in a hitherto unknown newspaper drew a picture of the Prophet Mohamed with a bomb in his turban, the Danish embassy in Beirut went up in flames. When a Texas pastor decided to ‘sentence the Koran to death’, the knives came out in Afghanistan – we are leaving aside the little matter of the ‘accidental’ burning of Koranic pages by US personnel in Bagram. And now a deliberately abusive film provokes the murder of one of the State Department’s fairest diplomats.

In many ways, it’s familiar territory. In fifteenth century Spain, Christian cartoonists drew illustrations of the Prophet committing unspeakable acts. And – just so we don’t think we have clean claws today – when a Paris cinema showed a film in which Christ made love to a woman, the picture-house was burned-down, one cinema-goer was killed, and the killer turned out to be a Christian.

With the help of our wonderful new technology, however, it only needs a couple of loonies to kick off a miniature war in the Muslim world within seconds. I doubt if poor Christopher Stevens – a man who really understood the Arabs as many of his colleagues do not – had ever heard of the ‘film’ that unleashed the storming of the US consulate in Benghazi and his own death. It’s one thing to witlessly claim that the US would go on a “crusade” against al-Qaeda – thank you, George W. Bush – but another to insult, quite deliberately, an entire people. Racism of this kind stirs many a crazed heart.

And has Al-Qaeda – defeated by the Arab revolutionaries who demanded dignity rather than a Bin Laden Caliphate across the Middle East – now decided to cash in on populist grievances to advance their Islamist cause? Libya’s largely impotent government blames the Americans themselves for Stevens’ killing – since the consulate should have been evacuated – and suggests that a Gaddafi clique was behind the attack. This is ridiculous. If the armed militia in Benghazi, calling itself the ‘Islamic Law Supporters’, are more than telephone-gunmen, then al-Qaida involvement has to be suspected.

Ironically, there is room for a serious discussion among Muslims about, for example, a re-interpretation of the Koran; but Western provocation – and western, alas, it is – closes down such a narrative. Meanwhile, we beat our chests in favour of a ‘free press’. A New Zealand editor once proudly told me how his own newspaper had re-published the cartoon of the Prophet with a bomb-filled turban. But when I asked him if he planned to publish a cartoon of a Rabbi with a bomb on his head next time Israel invaded Lebanon, he hastily agreed with me that this would be anti-Semitic.

There’s the rub, of course. Some things are off limits, and rightly so. Others have no limits at all. Several radio presenters asked me yesterday if the unrest in Cairo and Benghazi may have been timed to “coincide with 9/11”. It simply never occurred to them to ask if the video-clip provocateurs had chosen their date-for-release to coincide with 9/11.

Robert Fisk is Middle East correspondent for The Independent newspaper.

© 2012 The Independent
 

Barbara W. (342)
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 3:59 pm
"I've never seen incompetence and negligence like this, from the two sides, the Americans and the Libyans," he said. "You can sacrifice everyone but rescue the ambassador. He is the ambassador for God's sake."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120918/DA1BTG300.html
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Wednesday September 19, 2012, 7:30 am
On an other related post I left a comment,I think I can repeat it again here.

"Let me first express my deepest condolences to all Americans specially my care2 American friends for the loss of the US ambassador.He was a friend of not only Libyans but also Arabs in general.He believed that US interests is best served through friendship with the Arab world.He was absolutely correct.This is why I consider that it is not only USA who lost a prominent diplomat,but we Arabs also lost a friend and a diplomat.The Arab world might wait for a long time to find a friend like Chris Stevens.May Allah bless his soul.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Friday September 21, 2012, 6:51 am
Arab League chief Nabil al-Araby said Wednesday that the league, along with the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the European Union and the African Union are close to formulating an international agreement penalizing blasphemy and insults to religious figures.

States should not be blamed for insults to Islam made by some individuals, Araby told reporters at the league's headquarters in Cairo. He renewed his criticism of the US-produced film that denigrates Islam's Prophet Mohamed and has sparked protests around the world, describing it as "valueless and trivial."


Read more: http://times247.com/articles/arab-league-eu-eye-blasphemy-bill#ixzz276kcX6SV
 

Barbara W. (342)
Saturday September 22, 2012, 5:31 pm
Egypt's Interpol seeks anti-Islam filmmakers' arrest
http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3457141
 

Michael A. (10)
Saturday October 27, 2012, 2:10 pm
The guy who made this film is NOT a jew but an egyptian cope....its a poor quality film but I'd give him an oscar for his guts in saying that Islam is not a religion but a mental disorder for fools who don't have enough brains to realize that their religion is turning them into zombies...but that's again another film.

 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Sunday October 28, 2012, 1:37 pm
Michael A.

I quote from the Quran few verses to Answer you. These few verses read " "The true servants of the Most Merciful are those who behave gently and with humility on earth, and whenever the foolish quarrel with them, they reply with [words of] peace.’
(AL-Furqan 25: 63).

Peace on you Michael A. Peace on you. You really deserved it.
 

Michael A. (10)
Sunday October 28, 2012, 11:10 pm
Diab - In the Qur’an it is also said " Believers are loved by God, whereas infidels are hated to the extent that they are tortured for eternity (3:32, 4:56) merely for not believing. Muslims are told to shun unbelievers (3:118), who are called “helpers of evil” (25:55), “wicked” (4:160), “fond of lies” (5:42) and compared to the worst of animals (8:55, 7:176, 7:179). Members of Islam are told to be merciful to each other, but ruthless to those outside of the faith (48:29). Violence is also sanctioned against those who are obstinate against Islamic rule (8:12-13, 9:5). "
Calll that messages of Peace ? And I could quote you a few hundred more from your so peaceful loving prophet...so thanks but no thanks.

 
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