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Bill Nye the Science Guy Slams Biblical Creationism: "They're Not Kidding"


Society & Culture  (tags: religion, science, culture, children, education, environment )

Carrie
- 755 days ago - alternet.org
In a video that has been viewed 4,617,916 times on YouTube since August, Bill Nye "the Science Guy," politely explained that the Creationist movement brainwashed children and corroded America's capacity for growth and innovation.



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Kit B. (276)
Monday September 24, 2012, 3:29 pm

Tell 'em Bill - his arguments are always based on logic and reasoning. Something desperately missing in the creationist or ID discussions. They do attempt to frame this a conflict in theories, but as no science can support even the most deeply held beliefs, it's just a belief, neither factual nor substantiated by any form of credible evidence. Please allow children to learn to think critically, they will often surprise you.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Monday September 24, 2012, 5:20 pm
Thank you.
 

Dave C. (216)
Monday September 24, 2012, 6:16 pm
Go Bill....Science is truth or at least trying to be.....
 

BarbCat SunshineLady (1662)
Monday September 24, 2012, 8:03 pm
I believe children need to be inspired to use their imaginationas, yes. But the earth wasn't built by science. The entire Universe was Created by God. And what I'm interpeting here in comments, that you don't believe in God. I think it's sad that people don't believe in God. But this is only my opinion. Thanks Carrie.
 

Carrie B. (309)
Monday September 24, 2012, 8:06 pm
Barb, yes I do believe in God, but I do not believe in "fairy tales" like Adam and Eve any more than I believe in Sleeping Beauty.
 

Pamylle G. (462)
Tuesday September 25, 2012, 4:43 am
It pains me to point this out, for I should think we are collectively capable of more nuanced thinking: religious mythology & science are different ways of looking at the world, for different purposes. They are different subjects of inquiry, period.

Every culture has its own creation myth, valuable in its symbolism. And while there can be clues for scientists in these myths, the stories are NOT literally true, nor are they meant to be.

And which Creation myth ? To pick ONE is to discriminate. This is NOT a nation of ONE faith. Creationism is for Christian Sunday school, not science class.

Science is what saves us from superstitions and the hell we pay when we make important decisions based upon faulty premises. (Please review the downside of "faith" by brushing up on the history of the Dark Ages).

God (which one?) or no God, faith and faux science do not belong in our nation's classrooms - what a profound disservice to our children. Thanks for speaking up, Bill Nye !
 

Naoko I. (262)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 3:46 pm
I cannnot send you a star (yet) to you Pamylle, but your comment is really well said !!
 

Kate Kenner (201)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 4:33 pm
I am an atheist and happy to be that way. God made the universe? I think not. Also aside from the whole evolution thing I am appalled at the number of Christians and others who think god made the Earth yet make a big mess of it with chemicals, drilling, the destruction of animals and the environment and that is a partial list. Do they think God made it so they could do what ever they please? Animals are suffering at the hands of those who believe in creationism. The hypocrisy drives me berserk. Sorry but I just can not believe that this beautiful planet was made by someone that is not seen (in the physical sense).

Bill Nye is completely right. If something good happens God did it; if something bad happens it is because he had a plan or some other reason. Keep talking Bill.
 

Tal H. (8)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 4:33 pm
LOVE this man!!! :) :)
 

Kate Kenner (201)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 4:34 pm
And yes, Pamyle, there are many versions but the one that gets bandied about is the the creationism one and it is the one that gets in the way.
 

Kate Kenner (201)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 4:36 pm
And maybe I should not point out just Christians but they are the majority in terms of religion. I'm sure that there are many Muslims and Jews who are in the same league.
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Wednesday September 26, 2012, 5:03 pm
Was Bill Nye there at the beginning? I have studied prehistoric life for years and there are plenty of questions that have yet to be answerd. Nye's arrogance is sickening.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 27, 2012, 12:23 am
Intelligent Design?? HA! What's so 'intelligentí about this design? Itís a f**king mess, isnít it? Just look at Craig's comment.
 

Carrie B. (309)
Thursday September 27, 2012, 1:15 am
If you believe in Adam and Eve, you must also believe in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Wonderful fairy tales, but nothing more, and yes I am a Christian- just not a stupid, uninformed Christian!
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday September 27, 2012, 4:00 am
'Evolution' should be more precisely defined as physical evolution...that of bodies and matter. Physical stuff in other words. Tons of evidence for it. Bodies and matter definitely have an evolutionary track, and as Nye points out, stuff goes back billions of years. Therein lies the conflict if someone says it all was created only a few thousands of years ago or whatever.
However, spirituality by it's nature, deals with the non-physical. Is a human only a body? If so, then yes evolution of bodies and matter is the be-all end-all explanation. But is there such a thing as a spirit/soul? Which of course means something non-physical. Now how anything that deals in physical things (science) can 'prove' or explain or validate or invalidate anything spiritual is the question.

Another problem with the contention that all is physical and doesn't exist or isn't real unless science proves it, is this leads to the current popular pose that as far as humans go, all is brain. All is a meat brain. Any and all feelings, emotions, desires, likes, dislikes, goals, love, intentions, thoughts, ideas, indeed any idea of anything spiritual! is simply the product of electrical impulses and goings-on and chemical combinations in a brain. All. Outside of that, there is nothing regarding the mind or consciousness or life. And all is mud, was mud, and a haphazard chance of chemicals combining resulted in you, with some electromagnetic forces thrown in.

 

David Menard (43)
Thursday September 27, 2012, 7:49 am
Way to go Bill !!!
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Friday September 28, 2012, 4:13 pm
Great video--so glad to see this. Thanks, Carrie!
 

John McDonald (6)
Saturday September 29, 2012, 8:36 am
Creationism and Evolution are both faith based theories, neither can be proven empirically.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 29, 2012, 5:30 pm
John, you better rethink that. Evolution is based on sound scientific observation. Creationism is based on complete and utter nonsense. If you honestly think that Evolution is 'faith based', you are an extraordinary fool.

This isnít about empirical proof, itís about what scientific observation tells us. Your confusion about that is promoting exactly what Nye is warning us about :

"When you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in [science], it holds everybody back" Nye says in the video. "And I say to the grown-ups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we've observed in the universe that's ... fine. But don't make your kids do that because we need them. We need scientifically literate voters and tax payers for the future. We need engineers that can build stuff, solve problems."

John, try opening a science book.

 

Carrie B. (309)
Saturday September 29, 2012, 6:42 pm
I think the story of Adam and Eve is quite an enchanting story - just like- Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella and many other fairy tales I grew up hearing. Somewhere along the line I was able to detect fact from fiction.
 
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