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New Anti-Islam Ads to Debut This Month, Now With 25% More MTA Disclaimer


Society & Culture  (tags: rights, religion, abuse, culture, americans, society, freedoms, violence, sadness, ethics, dishonesty )

Carrie
- 647 days ago - observer.com
Pamela Geller,the outspoken blogger and Executive Director of the American Freedom Defense Initiative has just purchased a slew of advertising space in several subway stations and on numerous Metro-North platforms in order to display her newest anti-Islam



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Comments

Vicky P. (464)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:52 pm
sigh :/ imagine they did this to Jews, or even blacks, would it be acceptable
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 4:51 pm
Ms. Geller!!...ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE KLU-KLUX -KLAN!?!....ARE YOU RECEIVING ANY MONEY, IN ANY FORM, FROM THE KOCH BROTHERS.........inquiring minds, would like to know!
 

Thomas P. (468)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 4:57 pm
Noted...this is disgusting. Why do they take her advertising money to spread this hatred? There is no first amendment right to advertise hatred...
 

Terry V. (30)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 5:09 pm

Imagine

Give Peace a Chance
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 5:20 pm
"“Thousands of anti-Israel ads have run across the city and not one has been defaced. "

++++++++++++++++++ Is this true?
 

Jason S. (57)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 6:04 pm
John Lennon and Gene Roddenberry was right, good posting, thanks
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 7:04 pm
Thanks for the update.
 

bob m. (32)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 7:05 pm


Thank you Pamela.
 

John B. (215)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 7:45 pm
Thanks Carrie for the link to Ms. Epstein's article. I find her ads disgusting and hateful. I hope the dislaimers are in BIG PRINT and that they in turn will be defaced. Read and noted.
 

Alexandra Rodda (176)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:08 am
This kind of ad would surely endear us to Muslims and really prevent new hate and fanaticism arising among them.
I'm not talking about "appeasement", but rather, not making enemies.
 

Robert B. (57)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:59 am
A shameful Ad put up by fanatics of one religion against fanatics of another religion and approved by an irresponsible MTA. While sincere and kind people of both religions suffer from these hate messages. Ancient "holy" texts from ANY religion should only be take in the context of historical interest and the only message to be take seriously from these texts is the message of love and compassion, the rest is of no importance, other than historical curiosity.
 

Chris C. (149)
Monday December 10, 2012, 10:03 am
Typical behavior by fanatical nutjob Geller!
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Monday December 10, 2012, 11:11 am
I posted a note in this earlier but it never showed up or just plain disappeared...

I cannot quote what I said previously. I'll keep it simple. Maybe not so simple... lol...

Having photos of the Twin Towers on display may cause some New Yorkers who use the MTA for transit to get upset. They may be diverse but they are also sensitive as well. Contrary to popular belief that they are cold and heartless, the people are acutely aware of the aftermath. This is especially with regards to the "First Responders" and the people, loved ones who were killed.

Hate displays may or may not against be against the law here. Not certain but the MTA has a disclaimer on the posters.

Yes, advertising helps bring in funds to keep the MTA rolling. Some advertising this is!

Ty, Carrie.
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Lois Jordan (55)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:15 pm
What a supreme waste of time, money and energy to use on plain hatefulness this woman is using. Talk about collecting some really bad karma! People pushing hate simply don't understand that this always comes back to bite them.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:31 pm
Yay, Pam Geller! Telling the truth, while the MTA cowers in fear.

The truth must be told, so people can't say they didn't know that Islam is a religion of Jihad, violent Jihad that kills, maims, oppresses, humiliates, destroyes non-Muslims, because Muhammad told his followers to do so. Thousands of people each year die from Jihad, and the perpetrators of this murderous violence are proud to do so, because they believe they are doing Allah's, and that "perfect guy", Muhammad's will.

Let's see what the Quran and Hadiths, Islam's holiest writings, say about murdering non-Muslims, the Kufar (the Muslim equivalent of the N-word)


Summary Answer:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's many calls to violence according to what their own moral preconceptions find justificable. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.


The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.



Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."



Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."



Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').



Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.



Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"



Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."



Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?



Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"



Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.



Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."



Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."



Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."



Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."



Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."



Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).



Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."



Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.



Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"



Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.



Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.



Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."



Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."



Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).



Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)



Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"



Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.



Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.



Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."



Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"



Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.



Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.



Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."



Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.



Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


From the Hadith:



Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."



Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.



Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'



Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)



Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious



Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah



Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."



Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."



Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."



Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."



Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"



Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"



Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."



Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.



Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.



Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.



Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.



Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.




Additional Notes:

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.



The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their "assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect book.



Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.



So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.



Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.



It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death. The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense, this is an oxymoron that is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad.



Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day marriage").



One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way." Elsewhere, he notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of life."



The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], "The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect."


Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best first fought to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then, within the closer community, early Meccan converts battled later ones. Hostility developed between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this day.



The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and represses criticism.



This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret their religion in this way.



Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force", many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this.



Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose respect." (source). In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians, women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.



For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.



There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam.

(TROP)

I hope this gives everyone a little bit of an idea about why these posters are so justified. Any other religion that espoused this much hatred, and many of the people noting this article, as well as the submitter would be having cows.

Finally, I didn't even mention the verses of hatred. But if anyone is not convinced, I'll be happy to provide readers with many more examples.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:21 pm
Sad!
Like Christian religions have not, also, killed for the sake of their beliefs!
We need to be wry of ANY religion, or religious sect, that says that IT has the final answet to truth!!
Is Terry Jones, in Gainesville, Fla., and his ilk, any better than any of these others?
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:26 pm
Did Terry Jones fly airplanes into buildings and kill thousands of people? did Terry Jones advocate that anybody should use terrorism to kill people? Did Terry Jones advocate killing or hurting anyone?

Is he just as bad as Jihadists for burning a Quran? If your answer is yes, you are a pathetic Dhimmi liberal.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:28 pm
Pam,

I am almost certain that it is true. It is another instance of liberal hypocrisy run amok. Unlike you, these people have no stomack for the truth. They would rather cower in their corners.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:29 pm
and placate the crocodile.
 

Ge M. (217)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:46 pm
If Pamela Geller is quoting from the Koran, how can it be anti-Islam?

If Muslim terrorists flew planes into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and almost into Camp David, how is it anti-Islam to present the truth, that Bin Laden wanted to destroy America, known as the Great Satan?

Carrie or Chris C, I would be grateful if you could explain that to me.

If Pamela Geller puts up true stories about the behaviour of Muslims around the world eg training a 12 year old boy to behead an American, why is that unacceptable? These stories come from other sources, she does not make them up.

And, just as to the point, why is no-one saying that the behaviour of many Muslims on behalf of Islam is unacceptable. The attack on N Mali leaving Christians suffering with starvation having been driven from their homes. The murder of Christians in Muslim controlled countries along with the rape of their little girls for a marriage and forced conversion. In Egypt, they are forced to live in a rubbish tip and no-one says anything. The Egyptian Coptic Christians are being forced out now. And the loud silence from people, like Carrie, at the attempted genocide of Christians in South Sudan.

So, if people like Pamela Geller present this accurate information, how is it anti-Islam?

 

Phyllis Baxter (39)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:55 pm
Knowledge is power. Please study the religion before you condemn those who oppose. This ideology should not be allowed to gain foothold in the West as it an all encompassing stream of thought that brooks no opposition, freedom of thought, expression or liberty. I pity the unfortunate people who are caught up in its web. It is not 'racist' or 'bigoted' to make an informed decision to resist.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:44 pm
wow. Prior to the printing press, back in the day of Catholic vs Protestant most people were illiterate.They would believe anything their pastor/priest told them. Now they can believe posted on a platform. hmmm...may as well read the walls in the restrooms. Everything scrawled there is ..."true" too!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday December 10, 2012, 8:52 pm
The wider the message spreads that Islam in NOT A RELIGION(CULT) OF PEACE - the better for the world in general. People need to face up to what Islam is really about and stop living in cloud cuckoo land.
 

Stan B. (124)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:00 pm
How Muslims Celebrated Islamophobia Awareness Month
In Norway, a Muslim politician, Khalid Haji Ahmed, wrote on Facebook: “Damn Jew whores, wish Hitler could come back and shower you some more.”

In Florida, two Muslim brothers, Raees Alam Qazi and Sheheryar Alam Qazi, were charged with conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction in the cause of jihad to commit mass murder of Americans.

In Tehran, Muslims brutally murdered and dismembered a Jewish woman, in the crowning episode of an ongoing attempt to seize her property for use by an adjoining mosque.

In Moscow, a Muslim, Ilyas Saidov, received a fifteen-year prison sentence for his role in plotting jihad-martyrdom suicide bombing attacks.

In Baghdad, Sunni Muslims used three car bombs to murder 23 Shi’ite Muslims who were participating in processions for Ashura, the Shi’ite mourning festival marking the death of the Shi’ite leader Husayn bin Ali in the battle of Karbala against the Sunnis in the year 680.

In Norway, a Muslim politician, Khalid Haji Ahmed, wrote on Facebook: “Damn Jew whores, wish Hitler could come back and shower you some more.”

A Florida imam, Abu Taubah (a.k.a. Marcus Robertson), was exposed as having ties to the Blind Sheikh, Omar Abdel Rahman, mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center jihad bombing.

Hamas’s official al-Aqsa TV station ran a music video containing the words: “Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah.”

In India, a young Muslim who had appeared on a television show speaking about his fear of being honor-killed for marrying without his parents’ consent was indeed murdered.

In Libya, a jihadist group claiming to operate under authority of the Ministry of the Interior kidnapped twelve men it accused of homosexual activity, and threatened them with mutilation and execution.

In Austria, Muslims protesting against Israel’s defensive action in Gaza chanted “Death to the Jews” while their leftist fellow protesters looked on in silence.

On Facebook, a Muslim posted an admiring photo of Adolf Hitler, with the caption: “I could have killed all the Jews, but I left some of them to let you know why I was killing them.” Many other Muslims chimed in with “likes” and favorable comments.

In Mali, Muslim officials arrested three Catholics for the crime of declining to listen to an Islamic sermon.

In Nigeria, Muslims bombed a church and ambushed churchgoers, murdering fourteen Christians.

And a Muslim wrote a comment at my website, saying: “Whenever I see Robert Spenser’s [sic] face I feel like having my palms around his neck, its a good thing we never meet eye to eye because he would be licking my boots if we ever did. I’m actually a very reserved and polite gent but when I hear that guy’s voice or see his face I feel like shutting him up permanently.”

That list doesn’t actually take us through the whole of “Islamophobia Awareness Month.” All that happened in just the past two weeks.

Keep up the good work, Pamela. We need more people like you.
 

Nimue P. (243)
Monday December 10, 2012, 10:01 pm
Noted.
 

Ge M. (217)
Monday December 10, 2012, 10:32 pm
Gloria, perhaps you can explain why a quote from Islam's holy book, the Koran, isn't true.

It seems to me that, when confronted with something unpleasant, it has to be a lie or a misrepresentation. But, if a quote from Mohammed is anti-Islam, doesn't that speak volumes of their hate of non-Muslims? I would like Carrie to answer that. It is a serious and direct question on an article that she has chosen to post. Can she support something that she believes in?

It is interesting that, when unable to answer a question directly, argument 101 comes into play where it is ignored or the questioner is called a "baiter". As soon as I see either of these it means that the person, of whom the question is being asked, has no answer. It indicates that they are unable to substantiate or support their chosen article.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 12:17 am

Vicky P. (249)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:52 pm
sigh :/ imagine they did this to Jews, or even blacks, would it be acceptable

"'The Book of Mormon' is an extravaganza of jaw-dropping obscenity, hair-raising blasphemy, irresistable good cheer. It hits such heights of offensive hilarity that it leaves audience members literally gasping for breath. THE FUNNIEST MUSICAL OF ALL TIME. 9 Tony Awards including best musical." ~Vogue


 

John J. (0)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 4:38 am
@ Lee
Well saiid,but you do realise that showing islamic texts that promote hatred of the kafir and are responsible for the murders of kafirs worldwide is very offensive--- to the kafir not to islam

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
Feel the love

Amazingly the Saudis opened a center for tolerance in Vienna-- Tolerance they dont even know the meaning
"The formation of this center in the West with King Abdullah’s support gives a strong message that Islam is a religion of dialogue and understanding and not a religion of enmity, fanaticism and violence,” the International Islamic News Agency quoted Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudais as saying"

Liars all -- reading from the same hymn sheet




 

John J. (0)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 4:40 am
by the way Lee you deserve a dozen green stars (at least)
Thanks for the info
 

Carrie B. (305)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 4:42 pm
Hate is hate regardless of who is spouting it, and I see many haters of Islam here spouting their own hatred. Supporting any religious hatred is wrong, but it seems some here feel they are justified in their own personal hatreds. I do not feel that way or agree.
 

Carola May (20)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 11:57 pm
Carrie B, it's laughable how you call everyone 'haters' who are the real ones opposing hate - and there is nothing more hateful than Islam. Have you read any of the scriptures from Islam posted above? And those are only a small part of them. There are 109 verses in the Qur'an alone spewing hatred toward all non-Muslims, to shun them, conquer them, humiliate them and kill them. And you talk about hate?

Have you not read the verse in your photo above? Why aren't you people condemning that hate???? How can you rationally condemn those who oppose that hate and call them haters? Your logic is so twisted. Why do you insist on pandering to this ideology of hatred, violence and killing? Islam is the only religion that does NOT teach the Golden Rule except for fellow Muslims. Allah tells Muslims to hate and kill us, especially all the Jews. Where is your outrage over that? Hypocrites.

If opposing Islam's hatred for all non-Muslims, its demeaning treatment of women, its condoning of slavery and owning women for sex slaves (still done in Muslim countries today! Of course all slaves must be non-Muslims),the sexual abuse of children, torturing and killing gay people and all people who criticize Islam or just simply want out of this cult of hate and death. And you goofballs defend this?? Whose side are you on? You arethe ones promoting hate.

No Muslim country has freedom of religion, conscience, speech or press. Allah forbids it and demands that Islam conquer and rule over all the world, subduing and humiliating all non-Muslims (at least those they don't kill outright).

The Muslim conquest of the world is happening daily with atrocities committed nearly worldwide. Where is your outrage over the beheadings of little kids in Southern Thailand as Muslims try to drive Buddhists out so they can create another Sharia hate state? The closure and destruction of churches in virtually every Muslim occupied land? Non-Muslims are being ethnically cleansed in every Muslim ruled land right now, but you all only care that quoting Muslim hate verses might upset Muslims? How warped is that?

You people who are condemning this campaign, never seem to utter a peep against the hate campaigns waged daily by Muslims around the world. They whine about being victims even while they are slicing through some child's neck. And you pat the killer on the head and call those opposed to him 'haters'?

Islam teaches its followers to lie to us in any way to promote Islam, like the big lie "there is no compulsion in religion". They never tell you that verse was abrogated/cancelled by the later hate verses. They tell you Islam is about 'peace' and 'tolerance' and you fall for it without one iota of evidence. They don't tell you that what they mean is that there will peace when we are all 'subdued' under Islam's barbaric rule and accept our inferior status, and they will 'tolerate' us living as long as we abide by their rules, just as all non-Muslims have had to do for 1400 years in the lands conquered by Islam.

Not one of you has condemned even the verse in the photo! What is wrong with you people? Carrie only opposes 'hate' toward Islam but has never ever seen a Muslim atrocity of hate crime she has condemned. She has zero credibility. Jews and gays are being attacked across Europe right now just like under the Nazis, only now it is Muslims. Muslims are killing dogs and demanding Islam be taught in public schools. Women without headscarves are being sexually assaulted - they call them 'uncovered meat'. Muslims have established Sharia zones in some EU cities where even the police fear to enter. Where is your outrage over this?

Buddhism and Hinduism are faster growing groups in the US than Islam, yet no one ever hears about them? Don't you ever wonder why? They blend in and don't demand special rights. They don't preach hatred for those who don't belong to their religions. The don't try to silence all criticism like Muslims do. They don't commit the majority of acts of terrorism around the world. Muslims do. And Islam teaches it. No other religion teaches to hate and kill others, only Islam. Think about it.
 

Rob and Jay B. (120)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 12:09 am
Carrie, you say you are against people opposing the hate of Islam (you actually call THEM 'haters') and you oppose hate from all religion? Yet you yourself have ignored the Qur'anic verse you posted at the top of this post, direct from Islam's book of hate and debauchery.

If you are against all hate why have we never seen you saying that on any posts about Islamist hate crimes? And there are so many. We have seen you come on those posts and defend Islam. You always take the side of this ideology of oppression. You never take the side of its victims.

Where are you so-called feminists opposing the terrible oppression of women in Islam? Mohammed said the majority of women are going to hell because they are so inferior. Your pandering to Islam is very patronizing. It is typical of so many leftists - you, in your heart, do view this group as inferior so your guilt makes you overcompensate and lower the bar of civilized behavior for them.

Well, you are causing harm to those Muslims who are being victimized by this cult. You aren't even supporting the many Muslims who want to escape Islam but fear being killed if they do. What is wrong with you people?
 

Carrie B. (305)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 7:16 am
I do so dislike bigotry and prejudice, which seems to be so prevalent here. So many want to take the words of the Quran and use them to your advantage.

I am a Christian, but I would be a fool to take every word of the Bible as some ultimate truth. Are you all so hate filled, intolerant, and ignorant that you can not see what you are doing.

There are many severely depraved and uninformed on the Christian right that I shudder. Are they the norm? NO! Every religious group has its fanatics, but that does not speak for the entire religion. Those of you who want to condemn all Islam for the actions of some, are no better than the right wing Christian fanatics in this country.

You should be ashamed of promoting hatred for many because of the actions of a few.
 

Lydia S. (71)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 10:05 am
(1 of 3) @ Gloria H who wrote: "wow. Prior to the printing press, back in the day of Catholic vs Protestant most people were illiterate.They would believe anything their pastor/priest told them. Now they can believe posted on a platform. hmmm...may as well read the walls in the restrooms. Everything scrawled there is ..."true" too!"

Gloria, I would STRONGLY recommend that you don't just "Believe what you read" -- either from "Your Side", or those who support Pamela Gellar & oppose Islamization! You see, that is not the best way to arrive at a LEGITIMATE POINT OF VIEW!

To do that, you MUST read the koran, the hadith, the sunnah, etc. Only then will you TRULY understand what is at stake for civilization! OUR FREEDOMS & RIGHTS AS WOMEN; CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR ALL -- regardless of gender, religion, sexual preference, etc.; the rights of animals to be treated with kindness, etc. -- are all endangered by this Cruel Ideology MASQUERADING AS "religion"!

It may SEEM “noble" to advocate "Tolerance" at all times -- but does this TOLERANCE EXTEND TO VIOLENCE, THREATS OF VIOLENCE & HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES??? Doesn't "Tolerating" an Ideology, which calls for Stoning, Beheading, Rape, Child Marriage, Pedophilia, Forced Conversion, Murder for Apostasy, Death Sentence for "blasphemy", Denial of BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, etc., make you COMPLICIT IN THESE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!
 

Lydia S. (71)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 10:06 am
(2 of 3) @ Gloria H: During the Nuremberg Trials, those who were found "Guilty" didn't necessarily carry out any killings "Personally" -- they were COMPLICIT because they AIDED & ABETTED the atrocities! Their TOLERANCE of Nazi Ideology, led to death & violence on a truly HORRIFIC scale; MILLIONS of innocent human beings perished because of this Ideology! It started out okay – some scary “words” & “writings” by Adolph, but hey “He has a right to rant, no harm there” -- or so they thought! As he gained more & more power, some got a bit nervous, but Chamberlain said “There will be ‘peace’ in our time”, so the world let down its guard, until it was too late!

Islam has a 1,400 year history of violence WHICH CONTINUES TILL TODAY! And UNLIKE other religions today -- which have been REFORMED -- the writings & teachings of islam call for CONTINUED Jihad, until islam is the ONLY “religion”! -- it's an open-ended call to fight the unbeliever/infidel.

(Translation: Sahih International)
Surat Al-'Anfāl – quran 8:39
"And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.

Even today, various islamic "scholars" & "clergy" -- issue "fatwahs", calling for death to specific people for perceived "sins"! Are we to "Tolerate" this as well? Is it okay, because they “use words”?

 

Lydia S. (71)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 10:09 am
(3 of 3) @ Gloria H: Should Salman Rushdie have been murdered for his NOVEL (he’s still alive)? Did Theo van Gogh deserve to be butchered for his FILM (not so lucky)? Should Ayaan Hirsi Ali fear for her life, because she is no longer muslim? (Round the clock Protection, 24/7!) Is it right that ANYONE should have a fatwah issued for converting to another religion? or being gay? Should Malala Yousafzai, the 15 yr old girl shot by Jihadis, have another fatwah calling for her death, WHILE recovering in a UK hospital, – because she wants an education?! Is this "Tolerance"?!

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/malala-yousafzai-targeted-in-fatwa-by-muslim-333827

The hatred of Jews is so deeply rooted in islamic ideology, that there are passages in two Hadith collections of Bukhari & Muslim which say: "The Hour [of Resurrection] will not come until you fight the Jews. The Jew will hide behind stones or trees. Then the stones or trees will call: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.' Except the Gharqad tree [which will keep silent]."

The message that the "Mehdi" will not come until Israel is wiped off the face of the earth is preached DAILY throughout the Islamic world! Tell me, must Good, DECENT people SUBMIT to such REAL Hate Speech?!

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=427

NO, we MUST fight this scourge, even as the whole world fought Hitler & his ideology of Fascism!

 
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