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Tea Party Absolutism: The High Cost Of Hating Government


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: congress, republicans, corruption, dishonesty, ethics, freedoms, elections, constitution, americans, politics, news )

Carrie
- 595 days ago - nationalmemo.com
The tourniquet applied by the outgoing Congress to the economy allows a two-month breather before we are consumed by the next deadline. The president and his party can allow themselves a brief moment of celebration for imposing higher taxes on the richest



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Jason S. (57)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 5:57 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

David C. (29)
Wednesday January 9, 2013, 1:58 am
I am posting a comment on the site by Eleanore Whitaker, as I think it makes all the points better then I can.......

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In the language of people on Main Street, hating government is like hating yourself because YOU ARE the government. What about that don't right wing extremists and Tea Party Twerps get? So, instead of working for the greater good as the government of the people, for the people, by the people, the Tea Party works the back room agenda of the two Koch billionaires, Grover Norquist and Karl Rove. All of whom consider anyone beneath their income levels to be worthless human flotsam they barely endure the existence of. That's NOCD (Not Our Class Dahling) attitude that they don't admit is class warfare of the elitism brand.

Now in 2013, Main Street has had enough of the stalling, the sob stories of the Poor Rich and the gaming of the system that hasn't budged the economy one tiny centimeter. Baffled by our unwillingness to allow the Tea Party to become the only government in the US, they struggle now to continue Koch Bircher concepts like some wayward children lost in a wilderness.

We all know that we can push push push for changes we want. It's not rocket science. But, there are obstacles who must be removed in the genuinely Constitutional way...get rid of politicians who serve only their "party principles" and not the greater good of the good old USA. This means ending massive tax subsidies to corporations that don't reciprocate by hiring our creating new jobs. Buying and selling small and medium sized companies isn't business...it's the business of unemploying millions more Americans who need jobs in order to make this country a viable member of the global community. The rich see hiring and job creation as a loss of their wealth. The rich also see any worker benefits like healthcare and safe work environments as a loss of wealth. They also believe every dime they have to pay of their fair share of taxes is loss of wealth. In other words, they only want to have a river of moolah flowing to them while they stiff everyone to keep that wealth growing.

It's our country, not just theirs; though they'd like you to believe their big moolah games give them a bigger and better stake than the rest of us. That's nothing but a contortion of truth and they know it.
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John Gregoire (255)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 5:35 am
Any kind of absolutism, TP or Democrat or Republican or Socialist, etc is not at all helpful to government.

At present we have solved nothing but to show how to kick the can down the road and make the problem three times worse than it was.

Some of the most rich will pay a bit more but other legislation and spending that went into effect will hurt those who are at or below the poverty line and all of us through all the pork spending, some of which was mandated by the White House.

We need to get back to centralist thinking and action.
 

paul m. (93)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 6:40 am

Thanks...
 

Jane K. (10)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 8:53 am
When it comes time for health care , social security and medicare for them, lets leave them out and see what they think of no government then. They constantly talk about less government until they want to impose their will on everyone else. Then we need laws of their making to make the rest of us do what they want. Tired of morons and bullies telling us what we can and cannot do. It's our country too and they are in the minority thank heaven.
 

Scott P. (0)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 9:36 am
As for Eleanore "not to witty"ker's .. she's a buffoon... Capitalism creates wealth for everyone... yeah, maybe it tips towards the business owner who poured everything they had into their business to get started and risked absolutely everything they had to make an idea work, but they deserve it. I'm not jealous. I have a job!!!! THANK YOU!!! YOU CAPITALIST VENTURER!!!! I don't care how much money Caterpillar makes or how much the CEO takes home. They hired me and pay me what I agreed to work for.
 

Scott P. (0)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 9:57 am
Hey Jane... just wait til a coupla years from now when Obamacare really takes hold... healthcare costs, drugs, & insurance prices are going to skyrocket... and don't get sick as you age, the treatment you need may be deemed "alternative" by an expert panel and not be covered sentencing you to an early demise...
 

Carrie B. (309)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 11:03 am
How nice that you have a job Scott, but many don't and won't as long as the wealthy elite and CEOs refuse to pay decent wages and put money back into business instead of their own pockets. Just look at the WalMart workers who make less than a living wage, have few if any benefits, while the Walton family are billionaires. Money made off the backs of their employees who are barely surviving.
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 12:51 pm
Thanks Carrie; it will be more than interesting to see what happens.
 

Greg K. (1)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 12:53 pm
The Walton family would kill as many people as necessary to keep the money going into their hands. The workers who burn to death in their factories do not interrupt their cocktail hour. The beatings and chaining of their workers including Chinese prisoners, women and children do not disturb their sleep on silk sheets or their sumptuous dinner party for the politicians they own.
 

David Menard (43)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 2:34 pm
More like tea party plutocratic fascism!
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 5:07 pm
The 1st cuts should be to the Pentagon....bring home our troops and treasure. I'm all with ending dirty energy subsidies completely, as well as their tax breaks and loopholes. The Carried Interest Loophole is a giveaway to the wealthy and needs to go as well.
When "small business" is discussed, there is never differentiation made between what is considered a "small business." Many that are considered "small" are actually big corporations---this should be explained to the American public. When a company like GE gets so many tax breaks that they get a refund, something is terribly broken. And, don't even get me started on the fact that the "red" states are financially subsidized by "blue" states. This was a strikingly large point when Southern red states voted against compensation from Hurricane Sandy. They were sure happy to take the money after Katrina hit them. Now, please excuse me while I go scream into a pillow.
 

Wayne W. (12)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 8:33 pm
The whole debate is over what "centrist" is. Obama has been often to the right of Nixon and the GOP paints him as a socialist. Even given that most of the GOP have no idea what socialism is, that's disturbing. America's working families have become serfs, owing their paychecks to the company store. Almost half think that's the essence of personal responsibility when it's actually the very opposite, the abdication of their responsibility. We need a sharp turn to the left for a while. As esteemed philosopher Loudon Wainwright once said:

Take a whiff on me, that ain't no rose!
Roll up yer window and hold yer nose
You don't have to look and you don't have to see
'Cause you can feel it in your olfactory

You got yer
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
 

Bonnie A. (76)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 8:35 pm
Thanks Carrie! Drown the Government in a bathtub that's what Grover Norquist wants to do. The larger a population the more government you need. It's always funny how they want the government to keep their hands off medicare and then again the government (Tea-publicans) writes one new law after the next screwing women. We are having the worst storms we ever had and the House Republicans cut the money for NOAA. and everything that helps us. They are sadly hurting us all not just themselves. We know about evil bad politicians in Wisconsin. We have Walker and Fitzgerad and too many more to list and they have done since they got in shut down all things public (aka government) and put out corporate options that are always worse and cost more--and they think it's great--just too sad!!! There must be some smarter voters who care why don't they get out and get rid of these idiots (okay part of it is gerrymandering) but then we just need more people out there getting active in support of all the little things the government does.
 

Kit B. (277)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 8:53 pm

We are a country of nearly 310 million people we either have a functioning government or we have chaos. There really is nothing between that. The government functions are simple beyond defending OUR borders. That means preventing an invasion not fighting one long continuous war, since WWII. The government is also tasked with providing for the general welfare of the citizens. What that may have meant in 1787 and what it has grown to mean over the years are different things. However, those changes as with all of the changes in our government is what the people have made a choice for this government to provide. We do that, whether through contracting out or hiring from within by investing in this country. Investment in the country also means investment in the people. We as a people make the choice to not have the elderly lie starving in the streets, they are given nothing - they earned their Social Security and Medicare. It is not available to illegal immigrants as some want to believe. We also invest in this country through education, currently a complete mess for many reasons. All could be listed but I think most know that by now. Our primary resource is our citizens, not those few elected to office but the many. Those Tea-Party folks who are so against any form of change are not going to last, the country can not bear the expense of these people who can not or will not learn the art of compromise. The functioning of any government is most dependent on people of good will learning to compromise.
 

Heidi Aubrey (16)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 10:05 pm
I would like to see them(absolutionis Tea Partiers) kept in opposition forever by the undecided voter who has now decided.
 

june t. (65)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 11:55 pm
thanks for the post
 

Past Member (0)
Friday January 11, 2013, 9:23 am
Social Democracies are the only proven form of government that works. People that say they hate them don't even know what they are. They just regurgitate fox garbage. Take a good look at Denmark and don't use the tired excuse that they are small. It doesn't factor in one bit. Their government serves every one very well. Capitalism destroys most and has NEVER worked. Fascism is here and our enemy.
 

Mitchell D. (130)
Saturday January 12, 2013, 5:43 pm
Bunch of nearsighted fools!
 
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