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The Confederacy Making a Comeback in the South? KKK Grand Wizard Glorified, Civil Rights Heroes Ignored


Society & Culture  (tags: americans, sadness, rights, culture, society, ethics, politics )

Carrie
- 593 days ago - alternet.org
As Southern whites sink into economic despair, more and more are retreating into a fictional past. The rewriting of history in the South is a retreat by beleaguered whites into a mythical self-glorification.



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Edwin M. (366)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 4:51 am
Sometimes I don't know if the internet is a blessing or a curse, before the internet I knew there was a segment of our society that was ignorant,bigoted and just plain stupid but news coverage was limited to a half hour broadcast and I was oblivious to the actual size of that "segment". Now everyday there is a news story on the how deeply ignorance has permeated our society.
 

Carol H. (229)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 5:44 am
noted, good comment Edwin, too soon to send you a green star so this is a virtual one!!
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 6:02 am
Thank you.
 

John B. (215)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 7:12 am
Thanks Carrie for the link to the interesting article by Chris Hedges. Read and noted.
Edwin, good comment.
You cannot currently send a star to Edwin because you have done so within the last week.
 

Mike S. (86)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 7:39 am
Noted and thank you Carrie. Spot on comment Edwin!
 

Frank S. (35)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:50 am
The KKK of old and the rest of their followers have been all wiped out, but this article fits todays current events. The only States to stand up to this Anti-American President are the Southern states, as the other States are to busy begging for more Government handouts. So it stands to reason that Obama's administration is behind all these articles to put down the Southern States. Open your eyes so you can truly see where these lies are coming from.. Shame on you Chris, I thought that you were always after the truth. You know the AlterNet is not the only place where you can write.
 

Natasha Salgado (520)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:56 am
Noted thanks.
 

Jak Crow (0)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 9:46 am
Frank, the south gets more federal handouts than any other part of the country. Your nutcase argument is invalid.
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 10:29 am
Jak, I don't know you, but I like your comment to Frank.
 

DORIS L. (61)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 10:57 am
Ignorance prevails....
 

donald Baumgartner (4)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 2:58 pm
This will all die down on Jan 21, 2017, mark my words.
 

Aaron Bouchard (130)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 3:41 pm
Noted thanks
 

Brian M. (145)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 4:44 pm
As someone who had the good sense to leave the South over a decade ago, I wish to suggest that the rest of the nation would be immensely improved if the South were let go.
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 5:34 pm
Although the Klan had several incarnations, and there were periods when other hate groups, similar but with different names, overshadowed it, I doubt the Klan has been out of existence since it was founded. Check out this: http://video.pbs.org/video/2256476136 While every episode of this show is well worth watching in full, the segment I have in mind (and its ironic discoveries) starts at 20:00. OK, they are not making records any more. I think.
Worship of the Confederacy has also been pretty much a constant, certainly during my lifetime. They are just coming out of the woodwork more now. Now that they can see that they are no longer having it all their own way.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 5:40 pm
Dear Frank it is time to come up for air. The Klan is alive and well in several places throughout the country. They are heavily into kiddie porn manufacturing and distribution last I heard. They have merely adapted; they have not gone away and yes rallies are still held but they are just not obvious about it. I can't believe organizations like the Klan are still around. What a sick world.
 

donald Baumgartner (4)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 5:46 pm
Check out the " Southern Law Poverty Center" web site, they have a map of the Klan & their affiliates.
 

Michael Carney (209)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:01 pm
It's a whole different World down there...One I never wish to live in...
 

Michael Carney (209)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:03 pm
Frank is off his meds again, huh? lol
 

Gloria H. (88)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 8:37 pm
Lincoln should have let the south go create their little racist isolated paradise. It would be interesting to imagine how it would fare economically in todays world.
Can you imagine them having trade with shudder...non-Christian Arabs, Chinese trade (most things are made there now), Atheist/non Creationist scientists, Socialist medicine advocating English, and Yankee tourists in winter?
 

Robby R. (15)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 9:29 pm
Public Enemy "Fight The Power"
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 9:31 pm
Bloody sick
 

Frank S. (35)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 9:54 pm
Donald I stand corrected....... I checked out the Southern Law Poverty Center web site and was amazed at what I read. I didn't realize that these kind of hate groups are still permitted to exist. Out of sight , out of mind , I guess. Thanks for the advice.
That said, I still believe this article was printed for political gain and with all Obama's socialist agenda's he's trying to sneak past Congress....he will need all the help he can get
 

Billie C. (2)
Tuesday January 29, 2013, 10:15 pm
the klan may still be around but they are forced to keep a low profile. the people of the south don't like them anymore than yankees do. any klan groups are always being watched by local and federal cops.
the south doesn't want or need them. that doesn't mean that obama is a good guy either. he's only liked in ghettos and liberal strongholds in cities.
 

Jak Crow (0)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 1:45 am
Ever get the feeling those in the south just don't get it?
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 6:32 am
One has to remember that for a large portion of the Southern White population the Civil War or as many prefer to call it 'The War Against Northern Aggression' or 'The Second American Revolution' or 'The War for Southern Freedom' was not lost and is not over. Now when you add that mentality to nostalgia and revisionist history a lot of the stupidity, ignorance - native or intentional is easier to understand. Nostalgia is always dangerous as it is always based on selectively remembering only the 'good' parts' that is true for the Ante-Bellum South, the '50s or '60s. Hell even if one can ignore slavery in the Ante-Bellum South, the South was still an Aristocratic Plutocracy where the majority of Southerners lived subsistence lives.
 

Frank S. (457)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 9:51 am
Thanks for the heads up, Carrie. May the power of Obama shine from sea to shining sea !Lol!
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 11:15 am
Nostalgia, and the myth of a former"Golden Age" are forever joining to create new myths!
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 11:22 am
A fellow I know, was at a lunch, after a business meeting, in the south, not too many years ago, as I understand it, and people at his table were talking about the great restaurants of the north.
A fellow, from a nearby table, came over and said that that was all well and good, but his state had something for which it was REALLY proud: the building in which the KKK was originally founded! Now, I'm thinking it was Oklahoma, because that is where this fellow's company's headquarters are.
The point is that this is seen as something positively special!
 

Jason S. (57)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 11:26 am
Good posting, thanks
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 1:23 pm
I think the KKK would be caused to hide back under the carpet if only our media would do some decent investigative reporting on them....instead of all the fluff they love to stuff their broadcasts with.
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 1:59 pm
When-ever I see statements like Anti-American and Obama's socialist agenda's I know where it is coming from. Oh dear, another one "that doesn't mean obama is a good guy either. he's only liked in ghettos and liberal strongholds in cities." Too much Faux News for starters. Is terrible when Rush Limbaugh sets the tone in this Country for so many.

For starters why wasn't Bush Anti-American, he passed the Patriot Act and sent our young citizens into a war of lies that is one of the biggest factors of why we are in so much debt. Also torture became fashionable under him, and this Country use to stand for something! So we only become Anti-American when passing the NDAA and are black? Both Presidents are and were wrong on that one. As is our sold out Supreme Court with Citizens United ruling allowing Corporate Personhood to trump the individuals rights.

Obama a socialist....please, read up on what a socialist is, he is hardly it. What is wrong with the Human Right to have medical care? If we go down that road then the public education you got is socialist, the fire protection in your town, the police that protect you, if you don't have a private well and have water coming out of the faucet then it is a similar concept, public transportation, public roads.

Let us try to get with the rest of the so called civilized world to not have to go into bankrupcy due to medical (our #1 reason) or have anymore people suffering or dying because they can't get ongoing needed medical care. (please don't throw the hospital emergency room as their option, it's costly to all; the patient and the taxpayer). Or perhaps you'd like to start carrying around your own fire hose along with all the guns people seem to want to haul around lately. Remember, your gun is no match to the drones, tanks that will blow your eardrums out, bunker busters, and a host of other things this Government has at it's ready.

Liberal stronghold......please....the only reason Obama got as many votes from the Liberals that he got is he was the lesser of the two evils. It was he or Romney......what a choice....not much really, we got Bush or Bush Lite. I don't think that is much choice but it's all many States had in a two Party lockdown system we have. Corporate Media will not let the real Progressive Parties be known......where many of us "liberals" headed off to. There are many who truly like Obama, and ok for them, but for many of us, he is too Republican or too far to the right, which is why I always laugh when the extremists on the right don't see that Obama claiming he is so far far far far to the left. lol I wish he were, we'd had Universal Health Care and a National ASAP Green Economy for starters.

Any of the true liberals that are in this Country realize Obama is far from being a Liberal, let alone a Socialist Liberal.

Since when is it so bad to be a liberal? I'd suspect Jesus would relate to being one himself. But that is a whole other story.

If you want to talk policy then do so, but these drop off terms that are used incorrectly and are stuck on a man as code words instead of showing what is truly behind it don't cut it. The ignorance in this Country is truly sad and is no wonder we are in the mess we are.

By the way, the States wanting the most to secede are the ones RECEIVING the most Federal monies.
States most wanting to Secede are the ones Receiving the most Federal Monies
Imagine that.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 3:53 pm
This is sickening
 

Frank S. (457)
Wednesday January 30, 2013, 5:54 pm
This article contrasts the differences between “true Christians” and the racists who even to this day love to hide behind the hypocritical façade of a false and superficial Christianity. Sadly, these racist dinosaurs are still trying desperately to hang on to the backwards hate ideology of when they once ruled the country by intimidation and force, but thank God, similar to the dinosaurs they and their hate filled ideology will soon be on the way out.

Demographic Fact: By 2040-2050-2060 the tsunami of the minorities becomes the majority population hits here in the United States of America.

Fact: The majority of America’s youth is taking a strong stance against the bigotry and dated hate philosophy of the extreme rightwing.

Fact: America is on the verge of becoming a truly multi-racial, multi-cultural society, and no one can stop it!

The changing face of America: Time-lapse map reveals how non-whites will become the majority in U.S. within 30 years
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 08:52 EST, 27 May 2011

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391346/The-changing-face-America-Time-lapse-map-reveals-non-whites-majority-U-S-30-years.html
 

Dandelion G. (386)
Thursday January 31, 2013, 5:54 am
And that scares the hell out of some of them Frank, hence why some are pushing the "quiver movement" having as many white babies as one possiblity can, no matter what the cost is to the womans health or her well being. It is her duty to do so, no matter what the consequences.

A real shame when people don't look at people as other human beings but rather what their skin tone is.
 

Frank S. (457)
Thursday January 31, 2013, 5:06 pm
Sad but true Dandelion. It is wonderful to see Americans of all races working together for a common cause, and soon the false sense of supremacy through being the majority race will begin tumbling down for all racists, lol. I love what I’m finally beginning to see in America these days, which is people seeing each other as unique, human beings. It does not matter what race or culture one is, the fact remains that we are all the same! Unfortunately, that is what racists fail to understand because “they have been conditioned” for so long to think that if a person has a different skin color than they, then they must be inferior, NOT! All HUMAN BEINGS MALE AND FEMALE, AND OF EVERY RACE AND CULTURE ARE OF EQUAL VALUE IN THE EYES OF GOD! By the way, the majority of racist behavior is learned, as it does not occur naturally in little children. It is adults, which seek out this poison in order to satisfy a low sense of self-esteem and gratify a lazy mind, since it is much easier to accept false teachings than to actually have to search for the truth in life, and find out they were 100% wrong!

 

Dale O. (193)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 10:50 pm
Dandelion G, have never heard of the Quiver Movement, it is shocking to hear of the bizarre things out there. Certainly in terms of comparative Canadian politics your president is hardly considered socialist. I am grateful for our health care system and astonished at how President Obama's nowhere near Canadian style health care is seen as even remotely socialist. Conservatives love to mock the Canadian system but I am certainly grateful for it and never have to worry about losing all that I have to pay for some future surgery should I ever require it.

The link to the Southern Law Poverty Centre is certainly frightening, have often heard about right wing extremist groups within the U.S., some even training in paramilitary groups to overthrow the duly elected American government.
 

Dale O. (193)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 10:52 pm
Am curious, what are the numbers (54) beside our names stand for, the number of comments that we have made in C2NN? Everyone has different numbers.
 

Dale O. (193)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 10:53 pm
Oh, okay...the number of friends that we have...
 
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