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Catholic Left Looks For An Opening With A New Pope

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"The next pope has a unique opportunity to radically shift the agenda of the church," said Catholics United Executive Director James Salt in a statement. Photo is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana

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. (0)
Monday February 11, 2013, 2:46 pm
At best , the Catholic Church has an opportunity to become more centralist - remember John Paul I and II?

Jason S (50)
Monday February 11, 2013, 7:39 pm
Good posting, thanks

pam w (139)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 11:09 am
don't bet a lot of money on any changes....ok?

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 12:10 pm
The new Pope is always selected by the College of Cardinals.
The present College of Cardinals, consists of people hand-selected by the present Pope.
So, what are the chances of a "new change of direction"? Practically none.

Even if a new Pope was to be African or South American - they are VERY Conservative!
In Africa, for example, Catholic clergy is working TOGETHER WITH Evangelicals, to get behind Bills CRIMINALIZING Gay behavior in an effort to eliminate Homosexuality entirely! This sounds an awful lot like GENOCIDE...

Chris C (152)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 12:13 pm
I wouldn't hold my breath but we DID have a very progressive pope in John Paul the 23rd (1958 to 1963). Even back then, progressive popes were rare. After he died, the CC did everything they could to undo all the good he had done. John Paul II was a good one, too. I'd LOVE to see a progressive pope elected just to spite Dolan and his band of bishops!

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 12:14 pm
Australian Atheists weigh in on the Pope: Potential SCHISM in the Catholic Church, leading to its END:

There is every possibility this generation is witnessing the beginnings of the decline and fall of the Roman Catholic Church. After a mere 8 years in the position of Pope, Joseph Ratzinger is only one of two Popes to resign although there is speculation that number is five. An interesting parallel is that the other confirmed resignation was Gregory XII, who resigned in 1415 in the midst of an intense political schism in the church. Rumours abound that it has been inter-political machinations which have brought about Joseph Ratzinger’s demise.

David Nicholls, president of the AFA, said, “No matter what the reason is for the resignation, the trail of death and suffering left by Joseph Ratzinger’s adherence to and reinvigorating of antiquated Catholic traditions has brought the Church’s reputation amongst its own adherents and the wider community to a low and possibly irrecoverable position.”

The raft of socially naive and dangerous edicts emanating from the Pope include reinforcing the second-rate status of women, acute hostility to homosexuality, continuation of the hard line on abortion, opposition to voluntary euthanasia, obstruction to the use of condoms in HIV/AIDs-ravaged countries and fortifying that artificial birth control is wrong.

Nicholls said, “Under this Pope, socially-progressive programs have been vehemently opposed against the wishes of the people, at least in developed nations. By various surveys it is known that the majority of RC adherents in these countries do not support such antiquated dictates.”

The Roman Catholic Church is losing its members in the West at a rapid rate not only because of lack of progressive thought but mainly because of its sullied reputation. The gains in developing nations outstrip this loss and it would be no surprise if the Vatican were to cut its Western losses and choose a Pope from Africa, South America or the Philippines. The numerical advantage is obvious.

Nicholls added, “The Catholic Church has crossed swords with modernity and has lost that battle. Its power-base may linger, supported by developing nations for some time to come, but the writing is on the wall that the ensuing schisms will eventually mean the total downfall of this anachronistic institution.”

David Nicholls
Atheist Federation of Australia

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 12:18 pm
From the article:

In the 1980s, Pope John Paul II began a concerted effort to marginalize adherents of liberation philosophy — a radical understanding of Catholic teachings that stresses social justice and a battle against oppression espoused by Latin American priests, most notably the martyred El Salvadorian Archbishop Oscar Romero.

That push dovetailed with the Reagan administration's foreign policy in Central America, where the U.S. often found itself in conflict with local Catholic leaders in supporting dictatorships fighting communist insurgents.

donald Baumgartner (6)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 1:26 pm
I have my doughts, BUT WONDERS never cease!!!

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 3:42 pm
Noted. Been gone from the Catholic church for a couple decades now, so I really appreciated and enjoyed BMutiny's comments. But, I do believe that if they don't change their patriarchal and repressive ways, they'll continue to lose members. It seems like they "doubled down" on strict conservatism with the last Pope, Benedict. They've been getting much blowback from that decision...even from their own nuns. So, it would seem to be in their best interest to install a more progressive, forward-thinking pope.

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 3:49 pm

Gordon Van Gies (117)
Tuesday February 12, 2013, 6:25 pm
The next shall be an African

Patricia H. (440)
Wednesday February 13, 2013, 5:58 am

Suzanne L (99)
Wednesday February 13, 2013, 8:16 am
We'll have to wait and see. I am doubtful of anyone truly progressive getting the job.

Elizabeth M (65)
Wednesday February 13, 2013, 12:41 pm
Interesting article. Thanks Carrie
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