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A Rough Guide to Life in the United States of Zimmermanm, the US of Z


Society & Culture  (tags: violence, crime, ethics, safety, society, sadness, rights, murder, abuse, usa, culture, americans )

Carrie
- 462 days ago - alternet.org
In the US of Z the law allows people to hunt each other, and feel no remorse for killing someone. It is not even about the consequences of killing another person.



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Joanne Dixon (40)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 10:56 am
I'm going right up front to say "Don't feed the trolls," even though I am the first commenter, because I can just feel them coming out of the woodwork when they see this. Thanks.
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 6:24 pm

Yes, the law is about the law and justice is always an accident. Nothing new in that. Enough money, or sympathy from a jury will go a long way to avoid justice.

 

Carrie B. (309)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 6:53 pm
Sometimes I really believe people on juries have a personal agenda. They walk into a court room with their minds already made up and no amount of evidence will change it.
 

Jason S. (57)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 7:05 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Carol H. (229)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 2:45 am
noted, thanks Carrie
 

Veselin Varbanov (23)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 3:35 am
Thanks ! JAIL him immediately ! Shame yourself for letting a murderer walk free in the streets!
 

Gloria picchetti (296)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 4:46 am
When the cops didn't go through Trayvon's cell phone to find the next of kin what does that tell you? He was in the morgue for four days. He would have been cremated as a John Doe if his parents hadn't searched for him.
 

cecily w. (0)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 5:21 am
One basic point in this case is that an undeputized "watch captain"--who was told by 911 to hang back and wait for the arrival of police--disregarded those instructions to pursue an unarmed man, and then shoot him to death. If Zimmerman had followed those instructions, he would not have felt "threatened". "Stand your ground" or not, safety for all of us is compromised when people who can't understand the simple concept of do-not-engage are running around acting like Rambo high on action-adventure DVDs. Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

Was Zimmerman also guilty of racial profiling and bias? Probably. But the basic crime--which should have been punished--was murder.
 

Karen Martinez (18)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 6:02 am
Talk about a messed-up system. And the good people of Florida voted in the folks who passed these stupid laws...Good old George will get his when he comes out of hiding...What goes around comes around.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 6:07 am
NIGHTMARE VERSION OF MARTIN'S DREAM ...

As long as the race merchants revisit what was instead of what is (not guilty by law of the land), refusing to deal in the now and move forward, Martin Luther King's dream remains incomplete ... his own words say it best:

Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that. We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love. There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.

Let it begin with me, you in?
 

Fi T. (16)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 6:55 am
Justice
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 9:35 am
Good article.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 9:55 am
laws in florida differ a bit, perhaps just enough to allow creeps who murder to walk. Also, some of those jurors were swayed...THREE were for finding Zimmerman guilty. What happened? Pressure
The prosecutors never seemed to bring up the cecll phone. Why was it cut off in the middle of Trayvon's conversation with his friend? Why would he be approached while on a cell phone? Clearly, a teen on a cell phone poses no threat. Why was Z not charged with stalking, at least? This system failed All teens are fair game in Florida as long as they die and there are no Eye Witnesses. That cell phone call was enough to convict, and combined with Zimmerman's phone calls to police, that was total proof of intent to kill!
 

l L. (1)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 12:52 pm
Agreed; as well. reality one.... some people believe in an eye for an eye.. When it comes to mine.. I think like the mafia. You are going to pay . Only thing curves that response is "wanting to be a heavens agent". But we all have buttons and most of us know ourselves.

Hoodies...Z I am sure wore hoodies and sweats His community is gated and is a mixed community So he shouldn't be shell shocked over boys in hoodies. Since to me his cap has lied over ad over. I don't believe in any of them... Nothing what they say.
Deborah what you say sounds nice and remains to yet be seen in this case. All his moving forward whe your child is murdered for me doesn not apply here.. It is not like a person can unjustly commit murder and okay we just move on and let it be. But when the shoe is on the other foot we are suppose to all be alarmed and concerned. It's like saying we want our cake and eat it too. Doesn't work hat way with me..

Another thing is.... what if Z was mentally ill or having a psychotic episode and chasing this boy? Maybe society at large wants that to continue that any nutcase can do as Z and you end dead and that nutcase says he was scared so he shot and killed you.. What I see now is that this can only be fixed if a rich fox news person is stalked and killed and the entire world will be ready to go to war and kill any and everybody. Like always. I can only ..not hate my enemies.. only when I say"Father forgive them for they know not what they do".. If I say I forgive you.. I don't mean it. It's all words and it means nothing..
I tell you the truth. I don't like what Z did.. I never will. And to hear how they flaunt himself and all their supporters who just don't care about other people. They are dense. Cause they want to be. I don't like it as well that man kidnapped those 3 girls and raped and beat them and every time you turn around someone is doing things they got no business doing to other people.. And... we keep turning the other cheek.. We keep expecting people to move on and forget about it and understand you don't want your comfort zone tampered with. Okay.. and.. I read the counter arguments. I stop shaking my head..
It is enough to see and hear people in congress who hold the highest. think. I would think in the greatest circles of wisdom. They are few and far between. I am no longer mused.
 

l L. (1)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 1:20 pm
And Carrie..thx for the article.. I had wondered about Z's Dad. I now know he's racist. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I got this from the article and learning that he put out a something prior to his son being arrested and it's content. Explains a lot. Wonder how he behaved on the bench?
 

Birgit W. (147)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 1:57 pm
What law? If we had a fair law system Zimmerman would be in jail by now.
 

Debra Tate (17)
Friday July 19, 2013, 10:52 am
The black community wanted a trial even though they were told there was not enough evidence to convict. but they pushed for it and got it. We gave them what they wanted even though they were told there is not enough evidence! He is NOT Guilty and Justice has been served as by a jury of piers! GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!! Everyone is angry because they got a not guilty verdict! Quit your complaining! You wanted a trial and got it! The evidence did not support a guilty verdict! What part do you not understand? NOT GUILTY IS NOT GUILTY!
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:01 pm
My understanding was that it was George Zimmerman who was on trial ,NOT some innocent black kid. SILLY ME.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Friday July 19, 2013, 5:37 pm
The more I read of this, the sadder and angrier I felt. And, helpless...But there are an abundance of protests planned around the U.S. Peaceful protests. I just hope they are well covered by the media, and if not, that we take them to task for their negligence in reporting. Pres. Obama had some fine words today, which I caught a bit of. But, all the words in the world won't bring back Trayvon, or change anything. These crazy laws have to go, with the reminder that all are created equal---wearing a hoodie, or walking after dark isn't an excuse for stalking and violence. Zimmerman has some bad karma coming to him...when he least expects it I'll bet.
 
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