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How the Unholy Alliance Between the Christian Right and Wall Street Is 'Crucifying America'

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A new book argues that the Atheist's battles are misplaced... Polls show a majority of Americans favor liberal policies, but our courts and legislatures are increasingly controlled and driven by the Christian Right.

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Roger G (154)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 2:03 pm
noted, thanks

JL A (281)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 2:30 pm
Apparently the issue is that too many elected do not view their oaths of office to be primary/major guide for how they do their job?

Birgit W (160)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 3:15 pm

Angelika R (143)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 3:25 pm
Great article- and I couldn't think of a better, more suitable picture! thx

Jeanne Young (19)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 3:43 pm
ANY alliance between a religious group and greed is "UNHOLY"
The issue is - Who has the most money to buy the pols? (Unfortunately this is a fully bipartisan issue)

Elizabeth M (65)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 4:17 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing Carrie.

Jason S (50)
Saturday November 9, 2013, 7:01 pm
Good posting, thanks

Athena F (131)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 4:02 am
thank you

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 4:42 am
Another powerful article on this very important topic.
If I were God, I should much prefer the atheists. At least they would be intellectually honest and not be willing to go through all kinds of hypocritical and devious self deceptions to get brownie points with the almighty in order to get rich and then go to heaven.

. (0)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 4:48 am
What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?

Thomas M (8)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:07 am
Who put these people in office? The American evangelist taliban - evangelist republicans who want religion to permeate government, public schools, military and basically every aspect of our society. A politician's religion should never enter the discussion during a campaign. Yet, the American public is lead to believe a "religious" person is critical to being moral and successful in government roles, which is not true. Religion in government is dangerous - our Constitution was designed to keep religion out of governance yet these people force it on all of us who simply want our democracy back. Wake up America.

. (0)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:33 am
Great article, Carrie. Thanks for sharing.

Freya H (357)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 8:22 am
That is why we need to vote - and more importantly, cast INFORMED votes. Do your homework before you go anywhere near the polls! The real problem is "stealth" candidates who look squeaky-clean but in fact are in the pockets of the Religious Reich.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:05 am
Speaking of stealth candidates, Freya, did you read about the Houston bigot who ran for the Community College Board using flers/mailings that showed black people and didn't show him. allowing voters to draw the conclusion he is black, and WON?
Sample flyer
Story is number 9 in This should take you to page three where it starts at the bottom (how appropriate)
On topic, I am so glad someone finally said this. I have been seeing it happening and it scares the bejayzus out of me.

Joanna W (71)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:07 am

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:08 am
A couple of funny points:
One of the core beliefs on the Right can be expressed by saying that the levers of culture are the true levers of power. Ask somebody on the Right and he or she would tel you that the contest that secularism is winning is the important one.

Now, on to the matter of the courts and such: The laws are not becoming more religious or more aligned with religious groups. They may appear to be doing so because the division between the general culture and the one that wrote the laws is growing: The secularization is accelerating. There is that, and there is the fact that inconsistencies which hold up in politics do not hold up in actual governance or law. I am living right now in a place where the legislature is trying to go much further down the road of secularization than anywhere in the U.S.:

They want to ban all clothing and ornaments related to any religion from use by public servants or anybody on the public payroll while on the job. The stated idea is to prevent informal religious discrimination. On the other hand, due to their historical significance, giant crosses may be maintained by the state (including the crucifix over the Speaker's chair in parliament which was put up in protest against secularization) and Christians run into no trouble because, last I checked, Christianity does not mandate any particular ornaments or clothing. This is what happens when people try to make the laws match their politics entirely, ignoring the inconsistencies which pass during campaigns but normally not in real governance.

Lona G (80)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 9:53 am
Thanks Carrie, for an excellent article that brings brings the true dangers of the Christian Right out in the open. While America is one of the few countries that actually have a constitutional division between religion and state, it is also the country where Christian religion always had the most influence on governance. And while the country appears to become more secular, the Religious Right, traditionally already in the pocket of Wall Street, is bought into office (government and legislature) by the 1%. It's not new, the political system has always been based on and been dependant on money, but it is getting worse. Not only is the gap between the haves and have-nots getting wider by the minute, the gap between (more) secular society and it's (religious) representatives is widening just as much, because the haves are running the country through the Religious Right. And the authors is so right: Atheists are only winning fringe battles, because they have no idea that the battle is waged elsewhere.

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 12:52 pm
Thank you for sharing an excellent piece about the root of the insanity in the nation.

Carrie B (306)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 1:11 pm
This ~ in my opinion ~ has become more complicated that our founding fathers intended. Separation of church and state, and freedom of religion have now become "separation FROM church FOR state" and "freedom FROM religion"

The intent of our founding fathers was to prevent any religious litmus test for those who ran for public office, and allow all who live in this country to worship freely. Now we are being told that a plaque of the Ten Commandments outside a courthouse is wrong. Instead of children not being FORCED to pray in public schools ~ they are not ALLOWED to pray. Oops, I just saw freedom of religion go out the door in favor of freedom FROM religion. In my opinion this is not good or correct.

Sheri Schongold (7)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 2:01 pm
As far as I am concerned, the atheists and the rest of them, are doing a very good job of alienating those they want on their side. They can have religion, if you call it that, their own way, but don't shove it down our throats. Just because you want God, who did create the earth and mankind and that includes you as well, taken out of your lives doesn't mean the rest of us do. Don't tell us what to do about our religions and we won't treat you like the 4th rate citizens you have become in your hatred of God and you're feeling that you can rule the world on this problem. My religion is my doing and not yours. Keep yours in your backyard and I'll keep mine at home as well. If the majority of us want to follow the precepts this country was formed one, that's fine. Just don't feel you have the right to go to court to force me to follow yours.

Sheila D (194)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 3:00 pm
Sherri - I agree with what you said, but not who you said it to. Christians have been cramming their religion down the throats of every group they have conquered all the way back in history - think of the Crusades, think of the Inquisition, etc. Christians are still doing this today, in 2013, in America. They are spread across countries preaching the word of God to the "heathens and unbelievers," saying only with Christ can these poor, superstitious people be saved. Fine if you believe that, but don't tell others that their belief system is wrong.

An Atheist has as much right to his/her opinion as you do. And they have the right to not have Christianity in every nook and cranny of a government that's supposed to be separate from religion. A government that's supposedly represents believers And nonbelievers. A government that is not just Christian, but Atheist and everything in between. In other words, kept in your backyard, not in mine, or in our government.

I will respect your beliefs and your right to believe them, and will fight for your rights to believe in any way you so, would you do the same for me? For an Atheist? For a Wiccan?

Ben B (20)
Sunday November 10, 2013, 7:25 pm
The principle of "Separation of Church & State", or more broadly the separation of powers, i.e. including the law courts, as a basic principle of liberal democracies seems to be forgotten in modern politics. While personal faith may guide personal actions, there is no place for religiously driven political lobbying in modern society.

"Freedom of Worship" is a principle for individual freedoms, it doesn't mean that one religious group has the right to force their dogma onto others or to proselytise, obviously quite the contrary. Both principles were born in religious persecution in "old world" Europe.

Viva social justice.

Colin R (0)
Monday November 11, 2013, 12:44 am
The terms "Christain" and "Right" are mutually exclusive. Christ, if one believes the Gospels, was anything but Right Wing. There is no organised Sect which truly reflects and practices Christs teachings. Believe what you may, but do not call yourself Christian - that is a sick joke. The religious persecution of "Old Europe" is alive and well and still practised in "New World" USA. It is the God squad who brought it to the Americas and decimated near 20 million native Americans in the name of God. Athiests don't reject the notion of God, they object to the crimes committed in God's name. God Bless America while thousands of innocent humans are slaughtered in the name of America's real Gods - MONEY and POWER

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Monday November 11, 2013, 4:25 am

Lynn Squance (235)
Monday November 11, 2013, 11:06 pm
"We are winning the cultural war, but the Christian Right is winning in the race to control the levers of power. "

I am a Christian, a liberal Christian, and believe that government should be secular. Secular comes from the Latin saecularis meaning "worldly" or "temporal", and is the state of being separate from religion, or not being exclusively allied with or against any particular religion. In order to allow all religions and atheists a place at the table, government MUST BE secular.

The religious right has twisted the teachings of Jesus to suit their own pursuit of power and greed. That was not Jesus' way. No religion should have the right to ram their beliefs down another's throat. That is what freedom of and from religion should be about.

@ Colin R --- You are correct in my mind. Jesus was a leftie, a revolutionary, a socialist. believing in people.

@ GGma Sheila --- "I will respect your beliefs and your right to believe them, and will fight for your rights to believe in any way you so, would you do the same for me? For an Atheist? For a Wiccan?" AMEN! I do not have to agree with someone 100%, but I must respect them.
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