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Why Much Of What You'Ve Read About Ukraine Isn't Quite Right, As Explained By Ukrainians


World  (tags: Ukraine, Russia, people, politics, freedoms, rights, government, violence, conflict, ethics )

Carrie
- 139 days ago - thinkprogress.org
With all of the speculation regarding Russia's motives and endless posturing over what's in Ukraine's best interest, the perspectives of those that matter most, actual Ukrainians, seem to get lost along the way.



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daryl bishop (240)
Wednesday March 5, 2014, 4:25 pm
because of this we seem to be heading for another cold war. it seems that putin maybe backing down some. i hope.
 

Regan Copple (14)
Wednesday March 5, 2014, 4:43 pm
In order to understand this situation, you have to go back to the era of the Soviet Union, & then beyond it to the time of the Tsars. The only reason I have half an ounce of understanding of the issue is by talking about it with Ukrainian friends & colleagues here in Los Angeles.
 

Michael Kirkby (83)
Wednesday March 5, 2014, 4:44 pm
Noted & posted
 

Lona Goudswaard (67)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 9:14 am
Too bad this story comes from a Crimea Ukrainian living in the US for the past 7 years. It's not clear of Olga is a Russian speaking Ukrainian and of Russian decent or Ukrainian speaking. Her story sharply contradicts the stories of interviews on the streets with the few Ukrainian speaking people who dare to speak their minds and say they feel like they are held hostage and want to go over to the 'their' Ukraine. The Crimea is only a small part of the Ukraine and has always been dominated by Russia because of the military base there and the historic ties with Russia. Most Russian speaking people there are not very representative for the rest (and much larger part) of the country where even Russian speaking Ukrainians protested against Janoekovitsj.

In such a complicated situation it is very difficult to determine who is the real Ukrainian.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 10:41 am
and what about that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8d0hYQqdfU&feature=youtube_gdata
 

DORIS L. (61)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 11:17 am
Noted.
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 12:35 pm
What this makes clear is that it's very hard to see what is clear--except that violence should *not* be the first resort!
 

Birgit W. (140)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 12:58 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Sofie Lin (0)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 2:44 pm
There should be a forum , and the posters should be solely from Ukraine to comment on this affair.
 

Kamia T. (66)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 3:11 pm
I lived through the Soviet Union cruelly expanding territories in the 50's and 60's and this is beginning to feel like a replay. How sad that anyone in this world still thinks that grabbing more is the solution.
 

Debbie S. (33)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 5:27 pm
Nice to hear some of their opinions. I would much rather hear from the people directly involved because then you know what really is going on and different views of regular people instead of propaganda from all the governments who just want to but in and cause war and control and that doesn't solve the problems. I hope the people there stay safe and it doesn't come to that. Good post Carrie, thanks for sharing
 

Diane K. (136)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 5:31 pm
Thanks for posting, Carrie.
 

Peta Clarke (23)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 5:42 pm
Thank you for this article Noted. The history of the Crimea and the access from the sea has been a killing ground over hundreds of years. The Ukraine deserves the freedom to choose it's future. Putin is president of Russia not the Soviet Union and living in the past.
 

Colleen L. (2)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 11:14 pm
I pray that we don't end up having another war. Thanks Carrie
 

Colin R. (0)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:21 am
The opinions of ex-Ukrainians living outside of the Ukraine are irrelevent. The West needs to stop stirring up and supporting dissent. It is part of Western policy to make as much trouble as possible for countries they don't like, or who are considered to be economic and political competitors - witness the spate of Western instigated and financed and "rebellions" in the Arab countries of late, and the continuing demonisation of Russia and China. Nothing to do with "freedom" and everything to do with playing at Empires. And, of course, the best way to deflect attention from your own human rights abuses is to accuse other countries of "crimes".
 

Arlene C. (122)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:45 am
lu
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (38)
Friday March 7, 2014, 2:02 am
Veo mucha violencia en Ucrania, de ambos bandos. Mientras tanto, paises poderosos estan tironeando a Ucrania de un lado para el otro, como botin de guerra. Espero que los ucranianos no caigan de las brasas a la sarten, parecen que la quieren cocinar.
 

Jessica K. (89)
Friday March 7, 2014, 11:31 am
Interesting to hear from citizens' perspectives. Noted and thanks.
 

John S. (297)
Friday March 7, 2014, 11:56 am
There are Care2 members that repeat this message. But this is going to get more and more ugly, with Russia, the Kiev protest government, and the West each looking belligerent, stupid, weak, or ineffectual by turns, with increasing bad feeling and a lot of propaganda from both sides when what is needed is proper dialogue.
 

Jamie Clemons (280)
Friday March 7, 2014, 1:25 pm
Its mostly propaganda what we are hearing. Putin may not be a great guy, but he was asked by the legitimate leader of the Ukraine to bring soldiers in to keep the peace. The US paid big money to orchestrate the unrest and riots in the Ukraine to destabilize the region for their own interest. Putin like I said is no great person, but he is not foolish enough to give up the Crimea that has the largest Russian naval fleet and their main access to the black sea.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 7, 2014, 7:07 pm
A game of thrones..off with their heads..
 

Elizabeth M. (66)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 9:59 pm
Noted with thanks Carrie.
 
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