Monday August 12, 2013, 3:28 am
Many of those in Chinese prisons are prisoners of conscience - there are FIVE MILLION of them! US law (and other countries too) prohibit bringing in products made by prisoners - but yet these flood in to all our countries. We really must take action ourselves and make sure we don't buy these products!
I wonder if it isn't just the overt Chinese prisons - I wonder if it is the ones mentioned in the secret taping of Romney's views last year - when he went to a place with prison like conditions - high barbed wire fences all round, no-one allowed in or out, workers living in very basic dormitories - and he alleged that he believed it was because the workers really, really wanted to be there!
Tuesday August 13, 2013, 7:16 am
Slavery also thrives in the US where prisoners make clothes and operate call centers for less than 50 cents an hour. Let's start at home folks, let's not be hypocrites.
Tuesday August 13, 2013, 12:24 pm
Agree Patrick, but the goods made here are more difficult to detect. I've been trying to avoid Chinese made goods, but sometimes on my non-expandable budget, there's simply no room for anything even a few dollars more. So, sadly yes, I buy Chinese made things - as few as I possibly can and only a few time a year. Noted with thanks.
Tuesday August 13, 2013, 4:37 pm
Well Romney is fully aware of the fact they are slaves, he'd lie through his teeth as long as it would keep the dollars following into his bank account. If us lowly individuals are aware of such practices you don't thing he isn't?
The 1% don't care about us, they don't care about those workers in China or anywhere else in the world. They never did and never will. Our ancestors in the USA had to band together in the form of Unions to stop the horrific treatment that the people here use to endure. Children working for half wages in the coal mines and factories many dying before reaching the age of 22.
You are correct we can't be hypocrites, we have our own Prison Industrial Complex, but I think that people need to be aware of how the prisons over there and the prisons over here all interplay with each other. I do not have the quick and final solutions to all of these difficult situations that exist on many levels, but what I do know is that more people need to become involved in moving all of this into a better place. We have lost a lot of ground in the USA, and we, as well as the workers in China will have to rise up and fight back, however it is for them to do so.
We can help them by trying not to buy those goods, I know it's hard to find anything made in the USA or say from Canada, but we must look. We must also write to the Corporations and insist that they do not exploit the worker be they in the USA or China or anywhere else. We must all start changing our habits on how we live to realize how we impact upon others lives and our environment. Not only are the people being exploited in China but the environmental standards are low to non existent.
We also need to be smarter in who we vote in, ask key questions on how this person will be on various hot topics then hold their feet to the fire. We all need to do our part. I'm proud of those on C2 who are doing what they can in their limited time to help, if everyone would do something it is amazing what we could do.
Please also beware of what the TPP is. TPP will only make conditions like this film spread. We've already too many deaths and injuries, India, Bangladesh, now with TPP it will open more places to be exploited. Like Viet Nam, which I feel badly about, haven't we done enough damage to that Country?
Tuesday August 13, 2013, 7:31 pm
So this is like U,S. call centers, only a thousand times worse. Actually, I've never been in a call center, only heard stories (from a coworker who escaped from one--I mean used to work in one). Anyway, my point is, from what she said, it wasn't a pleasant working environment, although It can't possibly compare to a Chinese prison, still in the grip of Communism as China is.
All I have to compare this to out of my own experience would be a restaurant, since I worked at one for quite awhile--but even the lowest-paid worker there could leave the job without being beaten. for example. And most of the long days were self-imposed (as in "I want to work two shifts so I can make more money today because I need to save up for a date with my fiancee" or "I volunteered to skip my lunchbreak today because they're shorthanded; I'll grab some crackers when I get a chance"). Neither overheard statement can compare to anything which might have occurred in a Chinese prison. (Regardless of how I might have felt at the end of long days when business was slow.)
Can't we do something about the situation in China? Can't the U.N. do something? China's a charter member, for crying out loud!
Tuesday August 13, 2013, 7:56 pm
The only way we are going to have any impact on China and its inhuman treatment of people and animals is by boycotting the cheap rubbish they produce and paying a bit more for better quality merchandise produced in our own countries.
It's not always possible but I do it whenever I can.
Wednesday August 14, 2013, 1:27 am
Chinese goods manufactured in prisons,sweat shops in the most appalling conditions. This is an awful cycle as communism tham taught them zilch,nada! except to be like mechanised robots. People & animals are treated like disposable commodities.I will take my pick to save the animals in China as they do not have a voice!
Wednesday August 14, 2013, 10:48 am
Noted thank you Nancy
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Wednesday August 14, 2013, 12:03 pm
I think we need to be concerned here in the USA, we seem to be importing more than just merchandise from China.
Support Unions here in USA. Support local manufacturing in the USA. Avoid where-ever possible good made outside of Countries that use slave labor, as every time you make a purchase you support this slavery. Also demand an end to the Prison Industrial Complex in USA which is also using our citizens to work for peanuts.